Kelly Hamilton


EP 103: Kelly Hamilton (autogenerated)

Dane Reis: [00:00:00] you booked it. Episode 103. Okay, let’s get started. I am excited to introduce my guest today. Kelly Hamilton, are you ready for this Kelly?

[00:00:14]Kelly Hamilton: [00:00:14] Absolutely. I’ve been looking forward to it.

[00:00:16] Dane Reis: [00:00:16] Right on Kelly has danced in major cities all across the U S eventually ending up in Las Vegas, where she performed in Jubilee for nearly seven years after Jubilees. She began laser and show production in 2016. One of her laser shows went viral with millions of views  and in 2017, she won to first place. Ilda laser design awards for programming and laser choreography. She has appeared on several TV shows, including discovery. TV’s outrageous acts of science, MTVs amazingness, and the CWS, the big stage. Kelly is also the VP and associate creative director of Q productions, Las Vegas, which produces theatrical shows and special events.

[00:01:01] Most notably their Christmas show, holiday dreams, a spectacular holiday circ. She may have a fancy title, but Kelly wears many hats, including production coordinator, talent manager, costumer, as well as handling shipping travel. And of course, Lasers Kelly. That is a quick intro of who you are and what you’ve done, but why don’t you tell us a little bit more about yourself, filling the gaps and a little bit more about what you do as a professional in the entertainment industry.

[00:01:32]Kelly Hamilton: [00:01:32] awesome. Well, that was a great, um,  introduction, Dane. It seems like I’ve done a lot. Right. , I’m actually just to fill in the blanks a little bit. I’m originally from Miami, Florida. My background is in dance. I did go to new world school of the arts high school for dance. I have my bachelor of fine arts in dance, Summa cum laude from Florida state university.

[00:01:52] I spent several semesters at the Martha Graham school on scholarship.  while I was in New York, I also danced with the person dance theater, and I was an understudy for the, um, the gram second company, the ensemble, uh, when I was living there for awhile, the Graham company just shut down. There was actually the moment where it didn’t exist and, um, And so I left New York because that was what I had been working for most of my young adult professional, uh, life there.

[00:02:21] And, but it led me to a bunch of other dance companies. I danced in Miami, Indianapolis, New York, all across the U S and then of course ended up at a Jubilee where I was there for almost seven years, ended up being line captain for several years. And then, um, Figured out, you know, my body is not able to handle 12.

[00:02:42] It was week. Yeah. I mean, what else can I do? Of course lasers, right? Mmm.

[00:02:48]Dane Reis: [00:02:48] The logical choice.

[00:02:49]Kelly Hamilton: [00:02:49] It’s the, it’s the natural progression to it. Um, but I, I w I worked really hard. I was working about three jobs to get, to be able to purchase my first laser equipment. Cause laser gear is extremely expensive. Um, and, um, , it just, it, it grew from there.

[00:03:05] I had an idea and it developed, so to kind of explain what I do, I am a laser manipulation artist. Uh, and I’m also a laser programmer. So I do a special performance with lasers that combines elements of dance and magic. And later, of course, um, so I kind of use a whole bunch of skills to make these. Well pieces almost like I consider them dances or performances.

[00:03:31] , um, you have to see a video to really understand.

[00:03:34] So it’s just really hard to explain it. It’s very visual. Um, so with that, yeah, I’ve won laser design awards. I’ve been on TV and, um, done a lot of things. It’s really been a wonderful. Wonderful journey.  And then it’s the part of me that also works with Q productions, Las Vegas. And I’m very proud of all of our shows, especially our holiday show and, uh, this year we’ve, um, Obviously been through COVID and the shutdown, and we haven’t been able to do our normal theatrical shows and corporate events, but we’ve been able to make a really interesting pivot and I’ve been excited to be on the learning curve of that.

[00:04:17] I can’t tell you exactly what it is yet, but by the end of the year, we can.

[00:04:22] Dane Reis: [00:04:22] Oh, right. right. I’m looking forward to that. Well, let’s move on to this next section here. And Kelly, look, I am a sucker for a good quote. What is your favorite quote you’d like to share with everyone?

[00:04:35]Kelly Hamilton: [00:04:35] my favorite quote is very simple and it’s very prophetic. Are you ready? Yeah, I have to give it an intro. It is just do it from the Nike

[00:04:52] Dane Reis: [00:04:52] Yes. Love it.

[00:04:54] Kelly Hamilton: [00:04:54] Yeah, more simple than that. I mean, I mean, for everything, whatever, you know, you’re not good at, you just have to do it in order to get better, you just have to get up every day and I’d say, what can I do to make this better? Uh, just do it. It’s not going to get better on its own or just thinking about it.

[00:05:11] And that applies to your talent to learning programming anything.

[00:05:17]Dane Reis: [00:05:17] Yeah. And you mentioned programming right there. Can you delve into a pretty solid example of the, just do it mentality with your career?

[00:05:28]Kelly Hamilton: [00:05:28] just with my career. Yeah, I can, I can do I have had, uh, a lot of setbacks, which I know we’ll, we’ll get to later in this, but, um, I literally had to learn to just do it myself with the lasers and the technology. I had to teach myself there is no laser university. Yeah. Yeah. I just, there is no such thing.

[00:05:50]So, um, I had to get up. Do it figure it out and it’s a lot more than just programming. That’s involved. There’s a whole bunch of other things that there’s just no precedent for it. So I would just sit there with whatever I was working with, whether it was on the computer or with a costume pieces or props that I need and just sit there and figuring out and little by little trial and error day by day, it got better or better and into a more concise and beautiful package.

[00:06:19] Dane Reis: [00:06:19] Oh, I can imagine. And I can imagine you went through so many different iterations of the technology itself.

[00:06:26]Kelly Hamilton: [00:06:26] Yeah, I have only been doing this about seven years and the technology is rapidly changing and,  for the better, um, um, Lasers, you know, you used to have to have a room and a water tanks to cool the units.

[00:06:42] Uh, yeah. And then within this last 10 years, you know, I can fit a 10 watt laser in a small rolling road case, which is unheard of. Um, you know, even just a few years ago, stuff like that. And then of course the controls and, and everything else, and there’s just always something to, to learn. And I didn’t want to just stick with just the performance stuff too. Um, so there’s, you know, show, show control, live control, uh, all the other things that in a whole bunch of new stuff, that’s coming out this year that I’m interested in delving into.

[00:07:16]Dane Reis: [00:07:16] Yeah, very cool. And let’s move on to this section and Kelly, of course, you’re an entertainer, I’m an entertainer. And I think that you would agree this industry can be one of the most subjective, brutally honest. Personally emotional industries in existence. And you know, you know, as well as I, that in order to create and have a successful career in this industry, like your having now takes a lot of dedication and hard work.

[00:07:46] And while yeah, sure. There’s an outrageous amount of fun and excitement being an entertainer. Doing what we do. There are also our fair share of obstacles, challenges, and failures. We are going to experience and we’re going to have to move forward through. So tell us, what is one key challenge, obstacle or failure you’ve experienced in your career and how did you come out the other side better because of it.

[00:08:11]Kelly Hamilton: [00:08:11] Well, one of the key obstacles came pretty late in my career and it was basically my body failing me. . I was in pain all the time. Um, my back hurt, my hamstrings were constantly pulled. Um, I had to have hip surgery. It was right after I left the show. Um,  I did a lot of stuff, self care and maintenance and chiropractic and massage and acupuncture.

[00:08:35]Um, but I guess, you know, there just comes a time where you have to kind of listen to your body and mind, my mind was telling me, you know, it’s, if you don’t stop now, you might be doing damage. That’s going to really affect the rest of your life. Pretty bad. I did. And then I turned into laser girl. So it worked out because now I feel like every year I just get to do all these great corporate events.

[00:09:00]Uh, I get to travel. I get to create new works all the time. Whereas I feel like being a performer, you spend so much time just maintaining your body, you know, as a dancer. And, um, doing what you’re supposed to do in an, in a show like Jubilee showing up every night, six nights, a week, six hours a day.

[00:09:18] There’s very little time to really, you know, be creative and get it outside of the box. ,  So immediately after that, I ran into a lot of roadblocks and, and stuff with the lasers. There’s some, there’s a lot of shady people in the laser industry. There’s also wonderful people, but if you don’t really know the technology, you can run into problems that people that say they’re going to help.

[00:09:40] And, uh, actually I’ve I had one person destroy my gear cost me tens of thousands of

[00:09:47] dollars. 

[00:09:47] Dane Reis: [00:09:47] out of here.

[00:09:48]Kelly Hamilton: [00:09:48] Yeah. Um, we actually, it was in my, some of my stuff was being held hostage in their garage cause they were quote unquote working on it. so yeah, but the good thing about that is, and, and Fernando really pushed me to do this too, is to learn everything myself and not rely on other people.

[00:10:05] Of course, it takes time. It’s not like like if you would just hire a plumber to come and fix something, they know how to fix it right away. But if you have to do it yourself, you’d have to learn a little bit in practice. Right. But, um, that’s people just, just letting me down and cost me money, made me learn how to do everything myself.

[00:10:22] I was like, alright. Not going to leave this in anyone else’s hands. Cause nobody knows what I need and what I want anyways. Cause it’s kind of unprecedented what I do, you know, it’s a little different from, from other similar type things. So, so yeah, that actually all these quote unquote roadblocks actually led me to a better place.

[00:10:38] I didn’t see it at the time, but uh, it really pushed me to a new height.

[00:10:44] Dane Reis: [00:10:44] Yeah, . And I think that’s so true for a lot of challenges that come up. Cause when we’re in the thick of it, it’s not pretty, it’s not fun. We don’t really want to be there because it’s hard to see that light at the end of the tunnel. You, you know, You, you know, in your head that it’s there, you can see it, but.

[00:11:01]It’s so far off that you have to just keep going. And it’s all those little things that you’re learning every single day, all the little tiny things that eventually add up and culminate into that light at the end of the tunnel. But there’s no one big thing that you do or learn that opens the door magically.

[00:11:20] Right?

[00:11:20]Kelly Hamilton: [00:11:20] No, it’s not, it’s just taking time, spending time with it.

[00:11:24]Dane Reis: [00:11:24] Yeah, for sure. And let’s move on to a time that I like to call your spotlight moment. That one moment in time you realized, yes, I am going to be an entertainer for living or maybe it was, yes. This is what I need to be doing as an entertainer. Tell us about that.

[00:11:49]Kelly Hamilton: [00:11:49] I actually have about three moments like that in my career, because I’ve done so many different things. So, So, cause I’m, I’m, I’m a little bit more advanced in age.  the first, the first moment, like that was when I got, you know, The scholarships at the cram school. And I was living in New York and I was like, this is it.

[00:12:07] This is, of course, this is what I’m going to be doing. and then I, yeah, I spoke about earlier that everything closed down and I had to get out of there and I kind of redirected what I did. Um, it just was fine, you know, but at 20, you know, 21, 22, that was, that was big, scary thing. But we navigate, but navigated through that.

[00:12:25] And then my neck, like, wow, I’ve made it moment was actually getting into Jubilee. cause I had been a modern dancer and I said, you know, I. What would be a showgirl before I retire, you know, and I got into the show and it was just wonderful and it was great. Um, and then of course, my next moment when I was leaving Jubilee and I was heavily into the laser work is when I started to get the viral video and the invitations to be on some TV shows.

[00:12:53] That was like those, that was, that was awesome to me.

[00:12:56]Dane Reis: [00:12:56] Yeah, very cool.  your, your, your life has almost chunked up into three categories and they’re very different, but all within the same industry. Yeah. And I think it’s so cool because. That’s a big mission of what I’m trying to showcase with this podcast and speaking to great people like you, because so many of us come into this career and we, whether our concentration is dancing or singing or acting or whatever it is for you, it’s dancing.

[00:13:24] And so often we just place ourselves in that pigeonhole. I’m a dancer, I’m a dancer, but then. We don’t think about, or don’t even really what’s the word entertain the idea that there are other possibilities out there for us. And those other possibilities become almost necessities. As we get older as our bodies change or break down and we need to look for different things and where to.

[00:13:48] Put our concentrations next. And I think it’s so great that you have made this progression so seamlessly. I mean, I mean, when you look at it from the 10,000 foot view, and I’m sure when you were amidst, the whole thing felt kind of crazy and uncertain, but it’s wonderful. And I think it’s great for anyone listening.

[00:14:05] Who’s coming up in their career is in the beginning of their career, in the middle of your career, looking at such a great progression of how a career can go and that. If your body breaks down, if you know, if maybe performing on stage, just isn’t doing it for you anymore. That’s totally cool. There are so many parts of this industry that you can place yourself in and still be artistically fulfilled.

[00:14:28]Kelly Hamilton: [00:14:28] I always hear, Oh, you should have a safety net. You should have a second option, you know, from being a performer. And I, I disagree. I think that you need to learn how to take the skills, you know, you know, and what you’re good at and evolve with them. But I also think it’s perfectly fine if you want to be in a ballet company or a show for 18 years.

[00:14:49]Do it, um, and I think, especially when you’re younger, it’s okay to be, to be a little corny here at laser-focused, just because

[00:14:56] Dane Reis: [00:14:56] a hundred percent. 

[00:14:57] Kelly Hamilton: [00:14:57] dance is a very demanding skill and you have to develop, you know, the flexibility and the strength and. you have to really, really, really focus on it and there’s,  you don’t get a long career as a dancer.

[00:15:10]I mean, you’re not going to, you could be, but being a full time performer, it’s rare that people do at pest there they’re 40, you know? Um, and I think that you do. Maybe you need to be laser focused on that, but like you said, until it’s not working for you until you, where you feel stuck or you feel miserable, you know, or you feel maybe not even, yeah.

[00:15:32] Miserable, but just unfulfilled. Get, Get, get out of that. Get out of the show, get out of the, the dance company. You’re in, take a break, come back to it, see if it’s where you still want to be.

[00:15:43] But, um, 

[00:15:45] Dane Reis: [00:15:45] And that there’s so much out there to transition your energies into. You know, it doesn’t mean you’re done with the arts or are done with this industry at all.

[00:15:55]Kelly Hamilton: [00:15:55] No, it doesn’t don’t, don’t be afraid to take a chance. And completely do a big, big change if you’re unhappy where you are. It’s always, it’s worked out for me, you know, like it’s been a little scary at moments, but I look back and I’m like, well, I’m glad I left the show. Um, my body was breaking down obviously, but I realized how unhappy I was there, and that’s nice. You can’t blame one thing for that. There’s, there’s a lot of things, but it was me personally. It was time for me to go it’s time for me to leave.

[00:16:25]Dane Reis: [00:16:25] absolutely. I think that is incredible advice. And. Next up. I want to piggyback on that question and let’s talk about your number one book moment. Walk us through that day, the auditions and call backs. If they happen to be a part of it, what was going on in your life? And what about that moment? Makes it your favorite book?

[00:16:50] That moment?

[00:16:51]Kelly Hamilton: [00:16:51] My favorite book. That moment was when I got to do discovery TVs, outrageous acts of science. Uh, that was really cool because it was blending performance and science and it’s like, wow, I’m, I’m an outrageous act of science like that. Right. Right. I think pretty, pretty, pretty cool. Yeah. So that is it. I didn’t really, I mean, I mean, my audition was, of course they found me on social media and, um, and approached me.

[00:17:20] So I didn’t have to, uh, you know, go to an audition first. Per se, but they had definitely taken a look at all the work I had done and, and put up on a YouTube and Insta and all the Facebook. So they, I, they saw that I had a good body of work and I would be an interesting candidate to be on their show.

[00:17:39]Dane Reis: [00:17:39] Yeah, I’d say so. That is so cool. And what was the filming process like? Did they fly you somewhere that they come to you? How did it work?

[00:17:48]Kelly Hamilton: [00:17:48] They actually came to me. They, they are based in the UK. Um, and um, they made a route for the U S to, to, uh, work with any of their work with any of their people. And, um, they made of course, a stop in Las Vegas. I think it was the only one here in Las Vegas and they came to my warehouse. Uh, I had that set up as kind of kind of a black box stage and had all my laser set up.

[00:18:11] And we did the interview there with lasers in the background and, uh, it’s tricky to film lasers. So that took a little bit of work, um, just because it’s M D at the deal with a persistence of vision and the, the shutters on the cameras and colors and everything. So, uh, and then the brightness of light.

[00:18:29]So , you know, it’s a process it can be done.

[00:18:31]Um, , um, but yeah, so they interviewed me at my warehouse and then I, they taped me, uh, doing a couple of performances.

[00:18:38]Dane Reis: [00:18:38] Yeah, very cool. . And let’s, uh, take a moment to talk about the present. What projects are you working on now? What are you looking forward to and talked about it a little bit, but you know, but you know, it’s a weird time where a bit’s this global pandemic. How do you see the entertainment industry moving forward in the next couple of years?

[00:18:59]Kelly Hamilton: [00:18:59] Yeah, I think we obviously have to make a big shift in the entertainment industry. And I think that a lot of people are doing a really great job at that. It’s gotta be . Made for social media made for computer made for TV and, um, a drive through experience, as opposed to sitting in a theater for any length of time with a thousand, 1500 people with you.

[00:19:22]Um, so that, you know, has its own challenge has, especially if you’re a performer that really engages the audience. Right. But, um, for, for us, for Q productions and lady light, I’m always. Inserting myself in there, like, like, wait, can we put lasers? 

[00:19:34] Dane Reis: [00:19:34] Yeah,

[00:19:35] Yeah, 

[00:19:35] of course, of course. 

[00:19:38] Kelly Hamilton: [00:19:38] we are working on some installations that are there, drive through installations. And, um, they’re really exciting. And they’re fun. It’s challenged me, uh, to, um, change out of like a laser performance. Mindset to, a place where you’re actually like driving through experiencing lasers and the challenges that come with that and keeping it running for a long period of time.

[00:20:06] So I’m really excited for these things to materialize.  you know, you could practice this as much as you want, and I can set up all my things in my scenarios, in my warehouse, but really getting it set in the setting in real life and seeing people’s reactions to it, which I hope is excellent is going to be the icing on the cake.

[00:20:26] And I can’t wait for that.

[00:20:27]Dane Reis: [00:20:27] for sure. You got to take the leap at some point, right?

[00:20:32]Kelly Hamilton: [00:20:32] I mean, I mean, it was not, it was like shoved. I was shocked.

[00:20:36] Dane Reis: [00:20:36] exactly. You’re like there’s a cliff. I figure it out. Fly.

[00:20:40] Kelly Hamilton: [00:20:40] Here you go. Figure it out. So, um, 

[00:20:44] So, um, but yeah, it’s been, it’s been a great, uh, learning curve and again, no university on this, we just kind of figured it out and, um, it’s been, it’s been fun.

[00:20:52] Dane Reis: [00:20:52] Very cool. I am excited to see what that is when it goes alive and you’ll have to keep me posted, cause I wanna, I want to check it out.

[00:21:01]Kelly Hamilton: [00:21:01] I will for

[00:21:02] Dane Reis: [00:21:02] Beautiful. And it is time to move on to one of my favorite sections in the interview. I call it the grease lightning round. I am going to ask you a handful of questions.

[00:21:14] I want you to answer them as quickly and concisely as possible one after another. Are you ready?

[00:21:21]Kelly Hamilton: [00:21:21] I am ready.

[00:21:23] Dane Reis: [00:21:23] Oh, right. right. First question. What was the one thing holding you back from committing to a career as an entertainer?

[00:21:30]Kelly Hamilton: [00:21:30] There was nothing holding me back. Actually, I am such a strong willed and stubborn person. The only thing I would get pushback from my family, especially my grandmother. And they said, well, you’re so smart. Don’t waste all your brains on, on being a performer, um, or being a dancer. And, uh, the way I did that,  you know, I, I went through college on my own scholarships and I did everything by myself.

[00:21:54] So I wasn’t relying on anybody, uh, , uh, to pay for my education or my career move. So I was able to do it 

[00:22:01]my way. 

[00:22:02]Dane Reis: [00:22:02] Yeah, that’s so good. And I can imagine that it takes quite a bit of brain power to put together one of your laser shows.

[00:22:13]Kelly Hamilton: [00:22:13] But not even that, I mean, you know, I come on, dancers are our smart people. It is not an easy, it is not an easy thing. You have to be able to think on your feet, literally. You know? So, so yeah, I should have said that before. Yeah. Like dancing doesn’t take brains. It’s just a different side of your brain.

[00:22:28]Right. Especially, you know, you know, surviving in the industry. It takes, it takes a lot of intelligence, so 

[00:22:33]Dane Reis: [00:22:33] Yep. A hundred percent agree with that. And the second question, what is the best piece of advice you have ever received?

[00:22:42]Kelly Hamilton: [00:22:42] I can’t put a nail on that and I know I’m just taking your questions and throwing them back at you. I really wish I had gotten some, some good advice, but I feel like. I, I didn’t. And, um, maybe I was just being my stubborn self, but I really wish some people had given me a little more, you know, advice, like, you know, just be happier about this and to live in the moment, but I never really, I feel like I never really got any of that.

[00:23:08] I got a lot of, well, especially when I was in the classic dance, uh, realm, it was a lot of negative feedback. It wasn’t really advice, you know? Um, so.

[00:23:16] Dane Reis: [00:23:16] yeah, I’m right with you , I think that happens a lot with performers and things like this, but I’m hoping that through this podcast as well, that people like yourself can, by listening to what you’ve experienced, your whole career can be super insightful for people coming up in their careers.

[00:23:35] Do you avoid some of those, the bumps that happen along the way, inevitably.

[00:23:40]Kelly Hamilton: [00:23:40] Yeah. I mean, I mean, it’s just. Yeah, I guess the thing is the speed bumps are, they’re not necessarily the end point and you have to realize they’re just there to make you better. gee, I wish I had gotten that advice. I’m sure someone probably told me that or I listened to a lecture, but I don’t think it was right directly told to me, you know, so, so yeah, I mean,

[00:24:02] you know, so, , I mean, I was always that way seeking inspiration and, um, You know, tidbits of knowledge, but I don’t know that it was ever directly told to me, 

[00:24:09]Dane Reis: [00:24:09] and the third question, what is something that is working for you right now? Or if you’d like to go pre COVID, what was working for you before our industry went on? Pause.

[00:24:22]Kelly Hamilton: [00:24:22] what’s working for me is just trying to learn something new every day, um, and, and be flexible and, uh, be present in the moment.

[00:24:32] Dane Reis: [00:24:32] Great. And the fourth question, what is your best resource? Whether that is a book, a YouTube video, a movie, maybe a podcast, a piece of technology that you found is helping your career right now.

[00:24:46]Kelly Hamilton: [00:24:46] Instagram and Facebook presence does help me, but I have to say that the best resource for me has been building up my relationships with agents. and, uh, my, you know, associates throughout the year and there’s really nothing that can replace that. You know, I had a viral video with millions of views, right. right.

[00:25:06]And I got tons of inquiries from this, from all over the place and random. And I can tell you how many things I actually booked out of that was maybe three solid leads, solid gigs. You know, whereas if you have an agent that knows your skills and your talents and how you work and how you can fit in and to an event or a show that is invaluable because they, you know, they’re paying the bills.

[00:25:32] Dane Reis: [00:25:32] right. They’re selling you right.  to whoever and whatever it might be.

[00:25:36]Kelly Hamilton: [00:25:36] Exactly. Yeah. And it just takes time. I mean, there was like, I got agents. And so for year or two years, sometimes I wouldn’t work for them at all. And then once the ball gets rolling with them, they’re like, Oh, I see how this isn’t your, and, you know, you know, being self contained as much as possible is, is really key as well.

[00:25:54]Um, but it just, that is the best resource and it just, it takes time and digging and emailing and reminding and showcasing and whatever you can do.

[00:26:06]Dane Reis: [00:26:06] uh, yeah, that is bonkers. Good advice for everyone listening out there. And the fifth question. If you had to start your career from scratch, but you still had all the knowledge and experience you’ve collected from your career in this industry, what could you do or not do? Would you do anything differently or would you keep it the same?

[00:26:29]Kelly Hamilton: [00:26:29] I wouldn’t do anything differently. Would like, and I hit on it before. I’d like to have been happier where I was at the moment, because I was always just like, well, I should do this and I need to push harder at this and maybe it’s this and I’m, you know, I’m not doing good enough. So I think that if I had just been a little more present and content and happy with what I was doing, While keeping an eye on the bigger picture and what’s next of course, , um, that’s what I would change.

[00:26:57] It was more, it’s more my mindset than what I actually did.

[00:27:00]Dane Reis: [00:27:00] Yeah, I’m so glad that you’ve talked about that because I can relate to that feeling and I’m sure. If the two of us do, we’re not alone. And it is so easy to get caught up in the hype of things, or if you’re not progressing as fast as you think you should or not doing the right thing, but to really try your hardest to relish in the moments and enjoy what you’re doing, because it’s great.

[00:27:25] It’s fun. And it’s fulfilling artistically. But then also, like you said, keep an eye on the big picture. Don’t lose sight of that because you have to have a direction that you’re trying to go, but try not to put all your focus there.

[00:27:39]Kelly Hamilton: [00:27:39] And especially performers. Everything is, is. You have a performance. It’s a fleeting moment. And especially most of my career, my early career, there was video. Everything. We didn’t post videos. They weren’t allowed to. I mean, if you brought a camera or a cell, which nobody had, um, into a dance class and videoed it or filmed it, you would get kicked out.

[00:28:06]You know, and, and so I, you know, you know, all I have left are some VHS tapes that maybe haven’t rotted in some, some pictures, but even then, you know, photo photo photography was difficult for dancing and stuff like that. So, um, especially being from that era, it’s like more important to have been like, just enjoy those moments and take them in and, and,  and, uh,

[00:28:22] feel good. 

[00:28:23] Dane Reis: [00:28:23] Yeah. Great advice. Great advice. And the last question, what is the golden nugget knowledge drop you’ve learned from your successful career in this industry? You’d like to leave with our listeners.

[00:28:38]Kelly Hamilton: [00:28:38] uh, Dan, you’re going to hate me because I’m going to answer this with not answering it. Um, Um,

[00:28:43]Dane Reis: [00:28:43] That’s totally fine. 

[00:28:44] Kelly Hamilton: [00:28:44] third question that. Okay, so there is no golden nugget advice. There is none. Um, what you need to do for yourself is different. Yeah. From anyone else. I mean, I mean, even if you want to be a prima ballerina, you would think that that would be a very clear cut path.

[00:29:02] Right. You know, Right. You know, I need to do class every day, but one prima ballerina is ultra flexible and has to work on strength. Her whole life. The other prima ballerina is strong, but it needs to work on her flexibility, right? So there is, there is no golden nugget advice and, uh, you have to find your own way and don’t let anyone tell you you’re not doing you didn’t make it, or you’re not good enough because you are doing which you want to do and what you need to do at that time.

[00:29:31]  Dane Reis: [00:29:31] And to wrap up this interview, Kelly, it is time to give yourself a plug. where can we find you? How do our listeners connect with you? Is there anything you want to promote?

[00:29:44]Kelly Hamilton: [00:29:44] Yeah. So you can find me on social media. Instagram is at lady light, laser girl. And these are, is spelled with an S not a Z. It’s an acronym, little learning lesson there, laser with this S so at lady light, laser girl, my website is a lady light, Facebook is also lady light, laser girl. And Q productions, Las Vegas.

[00:30:09] You can find our website at Q. So that’s the letter Q productions, Las Vegas, spelled

[00:30:16]Dane Reis: [00:30:16] Beautiful. And for everyone listening out there, I have put the links to everything Kelly just said in the description of this episode. So you can easily connect with her. Kelly. Thank you so much for being on the show. It has been an absolute pleasure to have you on today.

[00:30:32]Kelly Hamilton: [00:30:32] uh, I think you Dean, it’s been wonderful and, uh, I’m really honored.