EP 116: Kyle Matthew Hamilton (autogenerated)
[00:00:00]Dane Reis: [00:00:00] you booked it episode 116. Alrighty or let’s get started. I am excited to introduce my guest today. Kyle Matthew Hamilton. Are you ready for this Kyle?
[00:00:16]Kyle Matthew Hamilton: [00:00:16] Absolutely so stoked.
[00:00:18] Dane Reis: [00:00:18] Right
Right on Caio is a music theater and screen actor, plus many other things who has performed all over the place credits include Broadway SpongeBob Squarepants, the musical off-Broadway clueless, the musical.
[00:00:33] TV and film the SpongeBob musical live on stage Ken show at the bedfellow I Carly wonder Rama. Good morning come. Macy’s Thanksgiving day parade and the 72nd Tony awards international tours include Scooby doo live national concert tours,
rebel rebel, the many lives of David Bowie. Norwegian cruise lines, Footloose, the musical equity workshops slam with Tony Hawk and Mark Mothersbaugh.
[00:01:02] He was also a playwright and wrote righteous. The skateboard play. Kyle is a professional skateboarder for shut skateboards and avid bicyclist published byline writer, and a current senior at the new school. Kyle that is a quick intro of who you are and what you’ve done, but why don’t you tell us a little bit more about yourself, fill in the gaps and a little bit more about what you do as a professional in the entertainment industry.
[00:01:31]Kyle Matthew Hamilton: [00:01:31] Sure. My name is Kyle Matthew Hamilton. I was born in Louisville TOKY and raised North of the city across the Ohio river in a small town called Salem, Indiana known for cornfields basketball and the invention of 2%. I am currently visiting family in Henryville Indiana. And we’ll be going back to NYC soon.
[00:01:53] And regardless of the rest of the topics of this stuff that I do, I simply like to tell people that I am a professional writer,
uh, for shut skateboards and my goals and entertainer has always been to bring, uh, more awareness to skating through fantastic storytelling.
[00:02:10]Dane Reis: [00:02:10] Oh, that’s so cool. And clearly you’ve done that quite a bit through some of the highlights in your bio.
[00:02:16]Kyle Matthew Hamilton: [00:02:16] I just,
I, I think it is such a wonderful tool for kids to discover their individualities, their personalities, what makes them tick. And also it’s something that’s just as creative as being a theater or film. We all root for one another. We all want to see each other be creative and various forms of whatever is beneficial to them.
[00:02:37]Dane Reis: [00:02:37] Ah, so cool. And let’s move on to this next section here. And Kyle, look, I am a sucker for a good quote. What is your favorite quote you’d like to share with everyone?
[00:02:48]Kyle Matthew Hamilton: [00:02:48] Is a quote by Rodney Mullen, which is there’s an intrinsic value in creating something for the sake of creating it.
[00:02:56]Dane Reis: [00:02:56] I really liked that. Can you expand on that a bit?
[00:02:59]Kyle Matthew Hamilton: [00:02:59] He’s a, he is a professional skateboarder and he is considered the godfather of modern street skateboarding. So all of the tricks that we do today over obstacles and I’m on various planes and platforms, those were all completely invented by one single kid back in the eighties who grew up very isolated with his family in Florida, and now a whole culture has taken his tricks.
[00:03:22] A dictionary vocabulary and has pushed it into a whole progressive real that is now being acknowledged by the Olympics.
So, you know, if we touch about, on how I applied to, since my life, I think that there’s value in the people and the relationships that I’ve met and the connections that I formed with all of these individuals who shaped me and have in a way either encouraged me.
[00:03:46]Stood in the way or challenged me in a certain light that allowed me to progress as a human being and to learn and be educated.
[00:03:56]Dane Reis: [00:03:56] Yeah,
that’s, that’s great. And first off, absolutely insane that so much of the entire skateboarding industry is due to one, man. That’s crazy.
[00:04:07] Kyle Matthew Hamilton: [00:04:07] there’s a theory, but he’s definitely for street skateboarding. He is the one.
[00:04:11] Dane Reis: [00:04:11] yeah, that’s crazy. That’s crazy. But. Also what I really like about what you were saying and expanding on that is that,
you know, sometimes in our lives we have not so good experiences.
Right. And we get really frustrated about them and we get angry with the situation or the person or whatever it might be. But to flip that script a little bit and go, you know, there’s value and all of these negative things, as well, as much as we want to just enjoy the positive things and all the highlights of our lives, it’s all those.
[00:04:42] It’s everything, including the bad stuff that
we, we need to learn from. And if you can change that mindset to being like, okay, that was not ideal. I had my little pity party for two seconds. What just happened here? Is there something to take away from that
[00:04:56]Kyle Matthew Hamilton: [00:04:56] exactly. And that’s what I’ve always thought about. It’s every day should be a learning lesson into being a better human being.
[00:05:04]Dane Reis: [00:05:04] for sure. And let’s get into this next section here. And Kyle, of course you are an entertainer. I am an entertainer, and I think that you’d agree. This industry can be one of the most subjective, brutally, honest and personally emotional industries. In existence and you know,
you know, as well as I, that in order to create and have I have a successful career in this industry, like your having now, it takes a lot of dedication and hard work.
[00:05:34] And while yeah, there’s an outrageous amount of fun and excitement being an entertainer. There are also our fair share of obstacles, challenges, and failures. We are going to experience and we’re going to have to move forward through. So tell us, what is one key challenge, obstacle or failure you’ve experienced in your career and how did you come out the other side better because of it.
[00:05:57]Kyle Matthew Hamilton: [00:05:57] Last year, I booked a CoStar on a popular TV show based off of my skating resume and video reels. When I got to say and started rehearsal the star who was also the executive producer, did not necessarily agree on my look and had me replaced with a background actor who possessed minimal skate experience.
[00:06:21] I was never told I was getting replaced. Production tried to discreetly make the move happen. But once I caught on, I confronted them and called my wonderful agents by the stroke of luck production was happening right in front of my crown Heights apartment. So I left and I sat in my apartment for the rest of the day until I had to sign out.
[00:06:41] And casting ended up deeply apologizing is this was not the first occurrence that this. Person the star of the show had pulled on,
uh, this series via other episodes. And I was bond, but I remind him yeah, self that business is business. And additionally, compare it to the famous Eric Stoltz incident who was notoriously.
[00:07:04] They replaced as Marty McFly by Michael J. Fox on back to the future. And my petty incident was a mere drop in the bucket onwards and upwards.
[00:07:14]Dane Reis: [00:07:14] Yeah, for sure. Love your mindset on all of that. and let’s move on to a time that I like to call your spotlight moment. Bad. One moment in time you realized, yes, I am going to be an entertainer for living or maybe it was yes. This is what I need to be doing in this industry.
[00:07:39] Tell us about that.
[00:07:41]Kyle Matthew Hamilton: [00:07:41] I’m going to harp on that moment of being a kid. I was an extremely shy and insecure kid who had a serious mumbling problem.
Well, my parents decided to divorce. I was participating in my play, a junior version of Greece and the enjoyment of theater masks. The adolescent pain I dealt with off stage and playfully helped open up my personality.
[00:08:06] And then by the end of that play, when I realized girls who had crushes on to greater interest in me, boom, I was hooked.
[00:08:14] Dane Reis: [00:08:14] Yeah. People don’t ever really talk about that. Part of the,
you know, this industry, you know,
[00:08:18]Kyle Matthew Hamilton: [00:08:18] Yeah.
I mean, I. It is. And I absolutely adore all of the, you know, there’s been some very unique moments that I’ve gotten to experience and I’m super, super grateful for, but I always look at the aspect of when was I most vulnerable in my life and it was at the very, very beginning. And that was the part that was the scariest and the hardest to transition into.
You know, once I did it, as we all do, we find that itch and that craving, and it helps us explore to open up more and connect with those around us that we want to engage with.
[00:08:47] Dane Reis: [00:08:47] Yeah, totally. And let’s piggyback on that question real quick and talk about your number one, booked it moment. Walk us through that day. The auditions and call backs. Yeah. They happened to be a part of it. What was going on in your life? And what about that moment? Makes it your favorite? Booked it moment.
[00:09:10]Kyle Matthew Hamilton: [00:09:10] I had auditioned. For SpongeBob. And I went through, as soon as I went in, I had sang a couple songs and played my guitar.
Well then for callbacks, it was a movement callback. And when I went back in for callbacks, this is about, I think like a week later we had a dance callback and then a movement at callback and then a skating callback all within one day.
[00:09:39] And so for the
dance dance called back, it was primarily a tap dance. And prior to that, I had never tapped danced in my life, but I got into hired to be the skateboard coach of SpongeBob when they were doing their trial run in Chicago. And the creative team had sought interest in me. And I developed like a really close relationship with all of them as friends, uh, during my work contract.
[00:10:03] And so.
so. Whenever they had expressed interest. I studied the show heavily. And when I got back to New York, I kind of started immediately jumping back into dancing classes again for the first time and singing classes and acting classes, stuff I hadn’t done in years because I had been in the skateboard industry and my life was all about skateboarding.
[00:10:23]And so when I went in for callbacks, , I woken up early that morning to go take two tap classes before I went in. Cause I was just
so. Nervously wrecked that I might not do a good job, uh, but knock that out of the park. And then we did a bunch of improvisation for the movement calls to various, uh, forms of music.
[00:10:39] And then we had an escaping call and , there was a lot of roller skaters, so that showed up. But the one thing that I noticed from my experience, coaching other skaters or other actors in the industry is that. There’s just not a lot of guys to authentically go up, like in terms of professional Broadway performers.
[00:11:01] There’s not a lot of them that go out purposely try something dangerous, such as skateboarding on a daily basis,
you know? you know? At any moment I was doing, or when I was on Broadway, I could have broken a foot out skating and it would have completely wrecked everything. But being in the audition for the skating callback, I felt very strong.
[00:11:21] And so it led us to our very last day of auditions. And it was about another week later. And I had brought in my skateboard guitar and a music score. And so for my audition, I literally. Put down my seat board and I skated all over the audition room, playing my guitar, singing. And then,
[00:11:43] Dane Reis: [00:11:43] It’s amazing.
[00:11:44]Kyle Matthew Hamilton: [00:11:44] and then I
did, did I believe in a thing called love from the darkness and somebody to love from queen.
[00:11:50] And then I didn’t hear anything for a couple of weeks. And then, and I got invited to participate in a table reading,
uh, or a live reading of the updated script. And I still have not been, you know, Heard anything in terms of casting. So I did this three day workshop on the table read, and then about a week or two, after that, I was out skateboarding one day by myself and my neighborhood.
[00:12:12] And I was just busting my butt, trying to work on some brand new trick and just sweaty, completely depleted. I was ready to pass out. I was just so tired of trying this trick. And my agent called, Katie calls me. And sure enough, she goes, Hey, you’re heading to Broadway dude. And as stoked as I was getting that news, I was still wanting to land this trick.
[00:12:40] We’re happy. And I wanted to start crying in that moment, but I was even more,
you know, obsessed with getting off the phone because I needed to land that trick. So I got off the phone, finished the trip. I went home, laid down on the floor with my skateboard and just cry my eyes out on the floor. I then went back out and Steve get some more.
[00:12:59] Dane Reis: [00:12:59] That is a fantastic story. Thank you for sharing that. So good. And let’s take a moment to talk about the present. What projects are you working on now? What are you looking forward to? And, yeah, it’s a weird time, right? We’re amongst this global pandemic. How do you see the entertainment industry moving forward in the next couple of years?
[00:13:23]Kyle Matthew Hamilton: [00:13:23] I just wrote into the alt an animated pilot based on a skate shop that used to manage a city called shut and a feature as well. Currently adapting, a documentary called the man who sold the world into the screenplay, which is based on the rise of world industries, which was the biggest staple company in the nineties.
[00:13:43] And I’m,
you know, I’m still a senior right now at the new school. So I’m studying full time, which has really been keeping me busy. And I’ve been doing a lot of part time work around where I’m living at right now. Uh, with family until I get back to the city. But you know, I don’t know how the entertainment industry will move forward, but come find me skating in the streets.
[00:14:01] When you hear the good word
[00:14:02] Dane Reis: [00:14:02] Yeah, right? Yeah. And it is time to move on to one of my favorite sections in the interview. Call it the grease lightning round. , I am going to ask you a handful of questions. I want you to answer them as quickly and concisely as possible one after another. Are you ready? All right. First question.
[00:14:24] What was the one thing holding you back from committing to a career as an entertainer?
[00:14:29]Kyle Matthew Hamilton: [00:14:29] My love of skateboarding,
[00:14:30]Dane Reis: [00:14:30] Second question. What is the best piece of advice you have ever received?
[00:14:36]Kyle Matthew Hamilton: [00:14:36] fudge it up. Get it right.
[00:14:38]Dane Reis: [00:14:38] Boom, third question. What is something that is a working for you now? Or if you’d like to go what was working for you before our industry went on? Pause.
[00:14:50]Kyle Matthew Hamilton: [00:14:50] Being malicious in my schedule of skating, studying, writing, and exercising.
[00:14:54]Dane Reis: [00:14:54] Fourth question. What is your best resource? Whether that is a book, a movie, a YouTube video, maybe it’s a podcast, a piece of technology that you found is helping your career right now.
[00:15:07]Kyle Matthew Hamilton: [00:15:07] Final draft baby.
[00:15:09]Dane Reis: [00:15:09] Yeah. Can you explain what that is for everyone?
[00:15:13]Kyle Matthew Hamilton: [00:15:13] Final draft is a professional screenwriting program and there’s other more, less costly versions such as Celtics. But,
um, it is my go to software for screenwriting and script writing.
[00:15:26] Dane Reis: [00:15:26] Great. And what makes it so good?
[00:15:28]Kyle Matthew Hamilton: [00:15:28] I love the features, how quickly I’m able to adjust between some of the features in terms of,
um, changing the settings using, um, um,
[00:15:37]I tried to explain it with my hand, as I’m looking at my keyboard, what I’m doing, changing the settings.
Um, I like what I didn’t like in terms of programs like Celtics is that I didn’t like how it would upload my work without it. When I had the free program, uploading it straight into a cloud without telling me that was up there.
[00:15:56] So there was copies that I had deleted years ago. That I would still find when I went back into my Celtics cloud. And I don’t know if that was something that was similar to,
you know, like Apple or Dropbox that they are trying to do, but not having a paid subscription with them made me feel uneasy about my trust issue with a company or with an online company and me putting my creative work out there.
[00:16:18]So I don’t know, just final draft and it’s worked for me.
[00:16:22] Dane Reis: [00:16:22] Beautiful. And the fifth question, if you had to start your career from scratch, but you still had all the knowledge and experience you’ve collected from your career in this industry, what would you do or not do? Would you do anything differently or would you keep it the same?
[00:16:40]Kyle Matthew Hamilton: [00:16:40] if I had to start my career over, I’d have reminded myself. This skating always comes first. Do not let the distraction of lights and showbiz blind me from what drives me internally.
[00:16:53]Dane Reis: [00:16:53] Great advice. And obviously skateboarding is the metaphor for something else, for whatever it is for you in this instance. It’s Kyle’s but great advice. and the last question, what is the golden nugget knowledge drop you’ve learned from your successful career in this industry?
[00:17:11] You’d like to leave with everyone.
[00:17:13]Kyle Matthew Hamilton: [00:17:13] Take the other guy’s rules and break them.
[00:17:16]Dane Reis: [00:17:16] Boom. And to wrap up this interview, Kyle, it is time to give yourself a plug. Where can we find you? How do our listeners connect with you? Is there anything you want to promote?
[00:17:28]Kyle Matthew Hamilton: [00:17:28] I’m available to connect with Kyle Matthew Hamilton dot com and currently have. Two Hamilton pro model boards available through my state sponsors. Shut firstname.lastname@example.org also available via Instagram as well as YouTube.
[00:17:46]Dane Reis: [00:17:46] Brilliant. And for everyone listening out there, I have put the links to everything. Kyle just said into the description of this episode, you can easily connect with him. Kyle, thank you so much. For being here and sharing your journey
[00:18:00]Kyle Matthew Hamilton: [00:18:00] You’re the man. Thanks for having me, dude.