Lindsay Heather Pearce


EP 125: Lindsay Heather Pearce (autogenerated)

Dane Reis: [00:00:00] you booked it. Episode 125. All right. Let’s get started. I am excited to introduce my guest today. Lindsey, Heather Pierce. Are you ready for this Lindsey?

[00:00:16]Lindsay Heather Pearce: [00:00:16] Oh, yeah.

[00:00:20] Yeah. Yes, I am.

[00:00:22] Dane Reis: [00:00:22] Yeah, Lindsey is a Broadway’s new Elphaba in wicked before she was the green girl. She performed all over the Los Angeles area with, for the record, live at the Rockwell table and stage and the historic Troubadour. You may also know her from the glee project glee on Fox, the Los Angeles revival of bear, a pop opera, American idiot, Los Angeles.

[00:00:47] Right. Freeform’s recovery road, Grey’s anatomy, ABC, and more Lindsey. That is a quick intro of who you are and what you’ve done. But why don’t you tell us a little bit more about yourself, feeling the gaps and a little bit more about what you do do as a professional in the entertainment industry.

[00:01:08]Lindsay Heather Pearce: [00:01:08] Yeah. Hi, I am Lindsey I’m 20 9:00 AM auditioning for the role of podcaster. I M. I am from Northern California. I was born in a small town in the central Valley called Modesto. And then, I lived a little time in Portland, Oregon, and then came back to California cause I can’t just stay away. I just can’t stay away.

[00:01:32] And I grew up loving theater, was born into a family of athletes, adopted into a family of athletes actually. And,  my parents were given the idea of someone went up to them and said, Hey, your kid can sing. And they were like, what? And, and bless them. they were always so open.

[00:01:53]they knew that I was adopted and I was not going to be a carbon copy. of them and their interests. So they were really good about putting me where I needed to be small children’s productions, like children’s theater, community theater. And then, I did the junior college in Modesto.

[00:02:09] I went there and. Did as much theater as I could from like 16 to 19. And then glee project came into my life and took me away to Los Angeles and, crushed under its heel. The idea that I was going to go to a four year university, get my BFA in musical theater. I was going to do a showcase. Maybe I would, or wouldn’t get an agent.

[00:02:27] And then I moved to the I’d be living in New York and I’d be auditioning for Broadway from like the ages of 21 and on, and I didn’t do any of that. I didn’t do a single bit of that. I went to LA and I got into the scene there and did a lot of incredible theater in Los Angeles. Theater is a growing and wonderful, not right now, but it’s a growing and wonderful industry in LA.

[00:02:48] And the people there that participate are really passionate about it. So it’s exciting to be a part of theater there because there’s a lot to prove. and, there’s a lot of passion and a lot of talent. And then I, I did the actor thing. I, we, I feel like we always do the actor thing where it’s, you get the day job and you do the auditions and you, and you cry in your car and you change in your car and there’s so many resumes and headshots in your car.

[00:03:11]and then as you reach for a resume, you grab like an old French fry. Like I did the whole thing. I did it, all of it. And then,  I had really incredible opportunities to work on freeform and. Maybe see NBC universal. just incredible jobs on screen and off screen. And then I went and did ship jobs.

[00:03:29] I went and did a, we did cruise lines and then I did seaborne because my last job before I got wicked and I went around the world, I said the whole world truly. I saw every single time except in America and South America. And, It was an absolutely amazing. And saying everything under the sun, from Dolly Parton to Shirley Bassey.

[00:03:51] And, as you do on a cruise ship on a cruise ship job, and it was wonderful. I worked with sir Tim rice, who wrote the lyrics for the lion King and Adita, the greats, Jesus Christ superstar worked directly with him. And he’s, that was like a highlight. That was really fantastic. And then came home.

[00:04:09] But back to the Rockwell table and stage, probably with people that we both know and,  was doing quasi burlesque singing stuff. And then I got an email in my inbox for my new agent that I signed with a month prior with the audition for wicked. And then that’s here we are.

[00:04:26] Dane Reis: [00:04:26] Oh, that is such a great journey. You have, you’ve been all over the place and done so many different things. I think that’s amazing.

[00:04:34]Lindsay Heather Pearce: [00:04:34] Yeah, it’s been, it has been, it’s been a ride to say the least, and sometimes I’m like, which right. Are we on now? Or is it the same one? Have we gotten off? Are we getting onto a different one? it’s, I’m grateful for it though.

[00:04:48]Dane Reis: [00:04:48] Beautiful. let’s move on to our first section here and Lindsay, look, I am a sucker for a good quote. What is your favorite quote? You’d like to share with everyone?

[00:05:00]Lindsay Heather Pearce: [00:05:00] it is a Teddy Roosevelt quote and it is comparison is the thief of joy. And I believe that he got that from Mark Twain, who said comparison is the death of joy. I would say those. Yeah.

[00:05:14]Dane Reis: [00:05:14] I think you’re correct in that. Oh, that is so good. Can you expand on that a little bit on how that is played and worked its way into your career?

[00:05:23]Lindsay Heather Pearce: [00:05:23] I wish it worked its way more into my career to be completely honest with you. I think we live right now in an age of social media, which has incredible pros and incredible cons. We see it on the daily, especially right now and at least in America, in quarantine, there’s a lot going on and, It’s difficult.

[00:05:39] It’s difficult when the new norm, at least for me who I’m an older millennial who, I still, when I was a child would have to go come home before the lights were on kind of a thing, you know, and ride your bikes. And if you’re not bleeding out of your cut, then you’re fine. it’s are you, is your bone broken?

[00:05:55] You’re fine. So now to live in this kind of new norm, Where a lot of us, myself included, I am not a Saint in this, but a lot of us will roll over and immediately check our phones. it’s like this new habit. and it’s hard. It’s hard not to compare yourself to, the highlight reel of everyone else’s success of their work, what they are or not doing their food habits, they’re working their bodies, whatever it is.

[00:06:21] And that’s men, we’re women. So I wish that I would apply it more. but I do think as a performer comparing yourself to anybody else, it’s a waste of time. and I say that because I need to hear it. It’s a waste of time. Cause you aren’t anybody else. You’re yourself. And that’s, that’s what you get cast for.

[00:06:39] That’s what makes you unique in this world? You can be, you can remind somebody yeah. Somebody else or say, you remind me of, so and so from this movie. Absolutely. But you, weren’t not that person, I’m not any person that’s come before me. And no one that comes after me is going to be me.

[00:06:55] And that’s the beauty of the human race, I don’t know where I’m going with that, but it’s true. we all have our own fingerprints and our own genetic makeup and in our own. a special spirituality that, we’re all part of the cosmos and all of that mumbo jumbo that I deeply believe in.

[00:07:11] , yeah, I wish I compare my short answer is I wish I compared myself less, but I’m always a student and I’m always trying to be better about it.

[00:07:18] Dane Reis: [00:07:18] Yeah, of course. it’s impossible to be perfect. 

[00:07:21] Lindsay Heather Pearce: [00:07:21] Oh my God. 

[00:07:21] No. 

[00:07:22] Dane Reis: [00:07:22] on the other day and she had a great little one. She said, compare leads to despair. I was like, Oh boom. There it is.

[00:07:31] And it’s so true. Isn’t it. We have to try to stay away from going down that Insta rabbit hole, 

[00:07:37] Lindsay Heather Pearce: [00:07:37] yes. It’s hard to, we call I don’t. How many times have you been on YouTube and you just keep going and into, and it’s a strange places where you’re like, why am I watching dogs eat peanut butter and slouch, and where, what am I doing here? And then it, and then you can go down like performance holes where you look some performance up that you love.

[00:07:56]And then. Another performance of something that maybe you did. And you’re like, Oh God, that’s on the internet. And then another performance of somebody else doing it better than you. And you’re like, Oh God. Oh no. When it’s truly we’re all just improving or we’re all just making mistakes.

[00:08:12] We’re all cracking on the high note. We’re all tripping. We’re all sickling our feet. It’s fine. We’re human beings. Yeah.

[00:08:21] Dane Reis: [00:08:21] I love that. We’re all cracking on the high note. What a good metaphor

[00:08:24] Lindsay Heather Pearce: [00:08:24] We are all cracking on the high note. Oh my God. It’s true.

[00:08:28]Dane Reis: [00:08:28] All right. let’s get into this next section here. And Lindsay, of course, you’re an entertainer, I’m an entertainer. And I think that you would agree that this industry can be one of the most subjective, brutally, honest, personally, emotional industries in existence. And you know, as well as I, that in order to create and have a successful career in this industry, like you’re having now takes a lot.

[00:08:55] Of dedication and hard work. And while, yeah, there’s an outrageous amount of fun and excitement being an attorney retainer, doing what we do. There are also our fair share of obstacles, challenges, and failures. We are going to experience and we’re going to have to move forward through. So tell us, what is one key challenge, obstacle or failure you’ve experienced in your career and how did you come out the other side better because of it.

[00:09:21]Lindsay Heather Pearce: [00:09:21] These kind of go hand in hand, they’re they’re like sister wives, which is a weird thing to say that they are, and it’s negative self talk and self sabotage. So for me, I will always talk about, comparison and being your own worst enemy. It’s so easy, especially when, think about the psychology of repetition, where.

[00:09:43] Oh, my God. I sound so smart. But think about the psychology of repetition, where I was looking at that, just come out of my mouth, where, where, someone repeats something so many times that you start to believe it as a truth. And that goes for anything. If someone was to tell me over and over, you can’t sing, you can’t sing.

[00:10:05] You can’t sing. You can’t sing. Or you’re not talented. You’re not talented. You’re not telling, you’re not kind. You’re not kind, you’re not I’m going to start believing it. Of course, because the brain is an incredible thing that doesn’t really care about your feelings. It’s just trying to keep you alive, trying to keep your heart pumping.

[00:10:21] So this, now you both thing that we’ve got inside of our skulls, you have to brain train. And remind yourself that you are worthy and not listened to, I’ve personally never experienced a casting director being rude to me. I’ve experienced hardships in a performer agent relationship or performer manager relationship I’ve experienced.

[00:10:46]Small comments that get back to me, or the comments online, they’re all over the place because everybody’s a keyboard warrior these days. And you’re too big. You’re too small. You don’t have nice enough teeth. you’re not a nice person. You suck you this, that, anything that you can imagine, get said online.

[00:11:08] And if you think about all of that, that sponging that we can do through our eyes through scrolling or whatever. And if you have one negative self talk within your own being like one negative comments or a self sabotaging, a feeling. You’re gonna, you’re going to start manifesting that reality.

[00:11:28] You know what I mean? You’re going to start becoming a self fulfilling prophecy. And I, for one can say that my career, I have experienced that where I had a big I’m sober in my life. And I’ve had moments where I’ve had at a big show or a big audition. And I. Drank too much, or I told myself that I was going to fail, so I failed, and, or I said, I’m not going to be able to sing that well, or they’re not going to take me seriously in this scene, or I’m not pretty enough to be in this role or whatever it is.

[00:12:00] And all of that seems superficial, but that superficial talk. Permeates the bones of who you are. So it really can sink in and like infest your being, And, so I think that’s been a challenge through my life to be kind to myself for God’s sake. Cause if nobody else is going to be nice to me, at least I should be right.

[00:12:24] And believe the people that are close to you when they say that you are worthy of love. And you are worthy of good things and you are never not a student, like I said before. And it’s you have to take the blows with the victories. So I think I answered the question.

[00:12:42] Dane Reis: [00:12:42] I’d say so. That was incredible. Thank you for that. And you’re so right. What you put in your brain, whether that’s through your ears, your eyes, or what you say that really truly does imprint on who you become.

[00:12:56]Lindsay Heather Pearce: [00:12:56] Yeah, it really does.

[00:12:57] Dane Reis: [00:12:57] So be very cautious of that and be very purposeful much as possible with what you do consume and what you do say

[00:13:05] Lindsay Heather Pearce: [00:13:06] It’s very true. It’s is it, what is it? Is it true? Is it kind, is it honest? there’s something, maybe it was a meme or some. Some inspirational quote. I just remember, I probably scrolled past it on Pinterest or something, to be honest. And it was like, is it true? Is it kind, is it on, all these, all of these things, if it’s not, then let it go.

[00:13:26]or don’t say it or don’t let it into your life or anything like that. And I think that’s very true.

[00:13:32] Dane Reis: [00:13:32] Oh, very much so.

[00:13:34] And let’s move on to a time that I like to call your spotlight moment. That one moment in time you realized, yes, I am going to be an entertainer for a living or maybe it was, yes. This is what I need to be doing as an entertainer. Tell us about that.

[00:13:56]Lindsay Heather Pearce: [00:13:56] I feel like a lot of us had moments where we were sitting in the audience of something or. Watching a movie or something like that. And I know that it, I certainly experienced that as well. I remember being exposed to the grand juror of professional theater. Through the lion King was touring.

[00:14:15] It was, and this was like the, this is like the beginning of the answer where I went to the lion King. I think I was 12 and my little community children’s theater group had like pooled money together. We all we all got like a, probably like some student group discount or something to go see the lion King tour in San Francisco.

[00:14:34] And we were sitting in the mezzanine and I remember being up. Up on the railing. So I could see over into the orchestra of the house, like the house and the show started. And I don’t know if you’ve seen the lion King live, but Oh my God, it’s a spectacle. It’s absolutely amazing. and I looked down and there’s a spoiler alert, but there’s a, an elephant being like an, a life sized elephant being, what’s the word being.

[00:14:58] Manipulated by these dancer singer actor, performers. And I was like, what that’s, that is incredible. And then the stampede and the sets, and everybody’s swinging in and out on ropes and the lighting and the singing and the language and the movement. And I cried the entire time. I was 12 and I was so overcome with the spectacle of it all.

[00:15:23] And I just remember being like, that was like, Realizing that adults and there’s kids in that show, there are children playing Nala and Simba, and I was like, little kids can do this at this level. Oh my God. I just remember being absolutely blown away. And then when I was 14, I saw at a theater called Sierra repertory theater, actually here in Sonora, where my parents live up in the Sierra.

[00:15:49] Nevada’s, there’s a professional regional production. Company in this tiny little theater, and I’m talking tiny, like 80 seats and the, the level of product action value that this company can, produce is really amazing. And they did beauty and the beast. And I think I was 14. And I remember watching that show.

[00:16:09]And I loved beating the beast. I loved Terence man, who was the original beast in beauty and the beast on Broadway. So I was like, I was ready. I was there. I was in it. I was ready to cry. I was ready to be inspired. I was 14. I was so above myself. And I remember watching, I don’t remember her name, but the woman that played bell I’ve watched her like a Hawk.

[00:16:29] That entire show. She was poised. She was strong. She was effortless. She was the star. And yet also like the, every man in the show, she was the, every woman. And she was part of the ensemble while still being her own piece of the show. and I remember having a moment going. I’m going to play that role.

[00:16:49] I have to play that role. I want to know what that feels like was my big thought is I want to know what that in my fingers and my toes in my voice and my body, I want to know what that feels like to go on that journey personally. And then when I was 17, I did it in a regional professional production in the Bay area.

[00:17:08] And then I had a moment when I was 17. I was about to turn 18 April. Of 2009, I went and I saw wicked in San Francisco and the end of the first act happened, defying gravity happened and the lights came up and my mom was sitting next to me. And I was, when I say I was unwell. like snot was going from my nose into my mouth.

[00:17:27] I was unwell and, I was not okay. I was completely moved. I was moved. I was moved beyond words and, uh, It was like deep from, within my soul weeping, which is embarrassing to think about a 17 year old, just out of her mind. And, my mom turned and said, are you okay? Why are you so upset? And I said, I’m not, I’m going to do that someday.

[00:17:49] I have to do that someday. 

[00:17:53] Dane Reis: [00:17:53] Oh, so good. And what, with that, let’s piggyback on that question and talk about. Your number one, booked it moment. Walk us through that day, the auditions and call backs. If they happen to be a part of it or what was going on in your life. And what about that moment makes it your favorite? Booked it moment.

[00:18:17]Lindsay Heather Pearce: [00:18:17] right now, it has to be wicked. I’ve had really amazing booked at moments where I’ve been like, no way people get these phone calls. This is crazy, but truly never in my life. Have I received. A phone call that was so affirming. That was so out of left field. It was so shocked. I did not expect it. And that’s because I went in and auditioned in November of last year, which seems like a lifetime ago.

[00:18:45] And I had gotten, the email wicked Elphaba 3:00 PM, Monday, November 17th. I will never forget that date. And I was like, Holy crap. I hope I don’t mess up because that was my first Broadway audition ever. And I was like, if I screw this up, I will never be allowed back into this room. I’ve gotta be able to, at least my goal was to, I have them keep my resume and headshot and not put it in the no keep pile.

[00:19:13] And, I just wanted to be called back for, I don’t know, dear, I haven’t had anything. Anything else? call me back for mouse. Number six. In the pit of blanking, anything, I just wanted to be in the room and I got there and I auditioned and I went to walk out and, they were like, can you come back on Wednesday?

[00:19:33] And I said, yes. And I went back in and this is a very short version of this story, because it’s long. And I went back on Wednesday with more people in the room, more creative, , Dan medicating, one of them. And, and I auditioned again. And then I left and a week or so went by and it was Thanksgiving weekend.

[00:19:51] And I was here in Sonora, in the mountains at my parents’ house. And I got an email on the weekend from my agent, which is not common. That’s like not a thing. it’s very important if you get an email on the weekend from your agent and she was like, Hey, something happened to the tape. like something about the USB, the card or something.

[00:20:10] Got. was massive. And so they didn’t have, they didn’t have the recording. And I have to tell you those first two auditions were like those magical audition moments where you walked out. I was like floating. I was like, Oh my God. I felt like I was alpha. But it was amazing. I remember walking out, being like, if I am capable of that, of producing that in seven minutes of an audition, I have no excuse.

[00:20:34] I can do anything. And I just felt so accomplished and I felt so proud of myself. I worked so hard on these auditions and it just there was a part of it that just took the, it took the wind out of my sails a little bit to be like, those are lost forever. No. , and of course they were like, can we please see you on this day?

[00:20:54] And then of course, that was the week that I ha I was booked up literally from 10:00 AM to 6:00 PM every single day. So it was like, can we see you at 9:00 AM on a Monday, which is the nightmare when you’re singing Elphaba. and it’s a packet, so you’re singing several songs and you’re doing several scenes.

[00:21:12] And I went in at 9:00 AM at the Chelsea casting office and Wilshire Boulevard in Los Angeles. And I saying everything about six times, I sang everything like twice through and, um, every single song I opened my mouth to sing about six times and then did the scenes. And then I think I sang through everything else.

[00:21:29] Again, I, to be honest, I think I blacked out, but I do remember walking out of that office and it wasn’t the same people. Everybody had gone back to New York. So these were the Los Angeles casting, the, this Los Angeles casting office. And I walked feeling like, and I wasn’t even, I was like trying really hard, not to be hard on myself in that moment.

[00:21:49] And I said, it’s nine 30. You did your best? Not a lot of people can say that they can even squeak out something at nine 30 and that’s not to be like, I’m so amazing at nine 30 in the morning, it really did not feel like it went very well. But I said, you know what? You didn’t crack you.

[00:22:08] You did it. You didn’t once bow out and you didn’t quit. You just kept doing it and you trusted yourself and you did it and you did it and you did it. And then I . Thanked the day for her it’s time. And I said, and that’s the end of wicked, cause I thought for sure. And maybe that is a bit of that self sabotage that I was talking about before, but I truly felt after what I produced that morning, that there was no way, that it would go further and then I didn’t hear anything.

[00:22:35] And from what I was told, the next step would be to fly to New York, to audition again for those creatives again. With a ton of other New York people. So I didn’t hear anything. and I was like, it’s not going to go anywhere. it’s it’s all wicked. We’ll come again next year and I’ll audition.

[00:22:52] Or maybe I’ll go to New York and audition for it. And I got a call on the 2nd of January, from my agent, Natalie, if you’re listening, thanks for that call. And she asked in a way only Natalie can, which was. Question. I’m about to get on a plane. Do you have a second? I said, yeah. And she said, how do you feel about moving to New York to play Elphaba in wicked on Broadway?

[00:23:18] Oh my God. My heart just went to my butt just saying that out loud again. and I was like, what? And she repeated herself and I didn’t say anything. And she said, are you there? And my first words were, are you sure? She said, yes. And I didn’t say anything. And she was like, Lynn’s. I said, are they sure?

[00:23:38] And she said, yes. And then I said, am I ready to do this? Can I do this? And Natalie said, I don’t know, can you, and it took a second. And then I said, yes, I can. And that was it. Cause I was really scared in that moment of. This is a big yes. that’s a big yes to say. Yeah. I asked you having no Broadway experience, no tour experience.

[00:24:01]just a resume. a lot of hope. and some really, across the board experiences in the industry. Yeah. and I said, yes. And then that was really it. and that. It doesn’t happen that way. So I’m very grateful that they saw something in me. something that was ready to do this.

[00:24:19] Cause I think, me a couple years ago would have been like, too scared. I don’t even think I would have been in the room a couple years ago. I don’t think I was in a place to be there. And it just felt, just felt synchronistic in some way.

[00:24:32]Dane Reis: [00:24:32] Oh, that is such a great story and so 

[00:24:35] Lindsay Heather Pearce: [00:24:35] Yeah. Yeah, it was insane. talking about it now, I’m not going to let you, I there’s like a sheen of sweat on my hairline, unlike my hot spot, but like the inner part of my elbow is like pounding.

[00:24:49] It’s a, it was a 

[00:24:50] Dane Reis: [00:24:50] it.

[00:24:52] Wow. And how has it been obviously pre COVID, but how was it getting into that show and getting rehearsed and everything? 

[00:24:59] Lindsay Heather Pearce: [00:24:59] it was, it was a whirlwind. Thank God for Dan Mitchell. K what an angel. He, he was there for all of it and, it happened quickly. I got the call on the 2nd of January and I said, when am I going? She said, you start work on the 28th. And I was like, great, cool. jeez, Louise.

[00:25:14] And, and I was like, okay. So I had to, I had to pack my life up and move across the country. and that was wild. I was on a red eye on the 26th of January. I landed on the morning of the 27th and I started work at 10:00 AM on the 28th. yeah, there’s a photo in my phone. I’ll have to email it to you cause it’s really great.

[00:25:29] But there’s a photo in my phone of me at 10 45 in the morning in the fitting and down the street from the wicked theater there’s they have like their own fitting offices with all the costumes and stuff in there. and I was in the act to also the dress barely awake just to still on California time, just Looney tunes out of my head and smiling from ear to ear.

[00:25:51] And couldn’t could not believe that I was wearing at the time I was wearing Jessica  dress. Cause they were trying to get. A feel for what the dress would look like on me. and it was that fast. It really was. And then four weeks after I landed in New York, I debuted on Broadway on the 25th of February.

[00:26:07] Yeah. Yeah. Crazy. And then just as quickly on the 13th of March, they were like, we’re. Dark. I was like, okay, cool. It was wild. Yeah. It was a, so truly, it’s been a whirlwind and I don’t know. I don’t know if I welcome that energy into my life. I must. Because my friends say that I have a lot of chaotic energy, so I must really embrace the chaos.

[00:26:29]or I like draw it in, certainly like I’m not talking about COVID, but  must everything be at top speed with me. Maybe one day I’ll get old enough to be like that’s too fast. That’s too much. 

[00:26:41] Oh 

[00:26:42] yeah. 

[00:26:43] Yeah. It’s a wild one for

[00:26:47] Dane Reis: [00:26:47] Yeah. And let’s take a moment to talk about the present. What projects are you working on now? What are you looking forward to? And. It’s a weird time. We’re a bit to this global pandemic. How do you see the entertainment industry moving forward in the next couple of years?

[00:27:04]Lindsay Heather Pearce: [00:27:04] right now I’m doing, I have this wonderful privilege of coaching, a lot of people right now, whether it’s. giving them tips on how to better work through their songs, how to build their books, monologue, coaching, singing, coaching. I’m not a vocal coach, but, I give, I pass along as much as I can of what I know.

[00:27:23]and that’s been really amazing. It’s been really rewarding, to watch these young people flourish, not just under me, but through practice. that’s been really neat and. I got to tell you, I feel like I learn. I’ve learned more in the last couple of months, teaching some of these individuals than I ever have in my life.

[00:27:46] Just watching them improve and watching the shifts that the shifts of work happen in their performance. It’s pretty wild and it’s really special. And I wouldn’t have had that time to be able to experience that with these young people. if I was still in wicked, I would be going asleep, waking up, getting green, doing, go on asleep, waking up, getting green, like it would be, I’d have a very different lifestyle right now.

[00:28:11]that’s been really wonderful. I’m working on a couple of projects with some of the wicked touring cast and the wicked Broadway cast and singing as much as I can and lending myself to little projects here and there because singing really, I find myself smiling a lot more.

[00:28:27] I got to sing this morning and I’ve just been like skipping around the house because I got to sing. And so I’m just, and I, and at the same time, I’m trying to maintain. At least a tiny semblance of what I had when I was in New York. Because when we do go back, I’m going to need that stamina baby.

[00:28:44] I’m going to need that stamina back. So it’s been a lot of working on the body, being gentle with the voice cause everything, it’s a little different right now and just living one day at a time, really, which is a mantra that I live by is stay in your gratitude. Go one day at a time, take it as it comes.

[00:29:03] And I’m looking, I’m looking forward to being back in a room full of creative people with that energy flowing and everybody joking around. It’s probably going to be a lot different. It might be a little difficult to, play or, I, of course. The way it might look different. This industry moving forward is going to be, everything’s going to be so freaking clean.

[00:29:24]it’s insane., I feel like I don’t think there’s going to be staged or anything anytime soon, you’re shaking hands, you’re meeting people.

[00:29:30] You’re saying hello, you’re in close quarters all the time. And I feel like staying healthy is part of the job because you have to be able to perform at a specific caliber. A specific amount of times a week, if that makes sense. So I feel like every, I feel like we’re all inherently trying to stay healthy anyway, but I feel like there’s just going to be so much, I don’t know, maybe more hesitancy or awareness of physical space.

[00:29:59] Um, I think that’s gonna change a lot, but at the same time, Oh, fricking nose who knows, that’s the insane thing is. This is truly the unknown. but I know what I do know is it will come back stronger than ever. And yeah, I think, I think that there’s going to be definitely a sense of relief when there’s bodies safely in a room together, again, with.

[00:30:27]That energy, that wonderful performer artist, energy, regardless of what kind of art or performance you’re doing, there’s just this energy of, how was your day? How are your kids, what are you eating? What does that smell like? What is going on? I F I forgot all my lines today. there’s just like a specific love and energy and.

[00:30:49] I don’t know it was Genesis acquire or whatever the saying is of being in a room, rehearsing and performing together. And I, yeah, I miss that. I miss giving people hope. I miss holding in people’s hands and I love my fiance, but I’m, I would love to hug and hold another body and another sometime soon.

[00:31:10] And, I also just think that there’s going to be a real sense of. Not taking any of this for granted when we go back. Okay, this is an insane, series of circumstances that has gone on this year. And I think that the industry, including the audience, I think that there’s going to be a lot of love and a lot of gratitude and not taking anything for granted, maybe as often.

[00:31:33] Moving forward. I know for myself, like I’m never going to complain about how tired I am after doing wicked ever again. And that’s not to say that it’s not healthy to complain or to be tired. that’s valid, toxic positivity is not a thing that’s welcoming, but, yeah, certainly more gratitude and remembrance of this does not last forever and can be taken away in a moment, which was very much shown at the year, at the beginning of this year.

[00:31:58] And 

[00:31:58]Dane Reis: [00:31:58] yeah.

[00:31:59] absolutely. I think we will all not be taking anything for granted. Like you said, from the performance to the audience, everyone. Involved. help move everything forward

[00:32:11]and it is time to move on to one of my favorite sections in the interview. I call it the grease lightning round. I am going to ask you a handful of questions. I want you to answer them as quickly and concisely as possible one after another. Are you ready? All right. First question. What was the one thing holding you back from committing to a career as an entertainer?

[00:32:36] Second question. What is the best piece of advice you have ever received?

[00:32:42]Lindsay Heather Pearce: [00:32:42] When you are in the room, just see the gig.

[00:32:45] Yeah, my coach, my well coach in LA, her name is Katherine  and she just so happens to be an original cast member of wicked. And, um, so she coached me for my audition and I had a moment of Total fear and panic in one word coaching sessions. And, she said, honey, Jessica, just when you’re there, when you’re in that room, see the gig, see the apartment, see, see the orchestra, see the greens, see the gig.

[00:33:23] And I did. And I th I think it’s cause of her that I booked that part. 

[00:33:27] Dane Reis: [00:33:27] Oh, so good. And the third question, what is something that is working for you right now? Or if you’d like to go pre COVID, what was working for you before our industry went on? Pause. Yes.

[00:33:41]Lindsay Heather Pearce: [00:33:41] something that’s working for me now. or is it working for me? I know how to make so many pies now. Like some, and I’m not being funny. I know how to make a crazy amount of pies now. And that was something that I’d always wanted to be able to do. Yeah. And, I’m N for any of you, you out there listening, I’m an earth sign.

[00:34:00] I am like, I love to cook. I love my, I love to use my hands. I love food. I love sharing food and. I made pies for a lot of people in the summer of this quarantine, like actually took orders was like, do you want Apple? Do you want blueberry? Do you want pumpkin? What do you want? And then I would, and I would make them as a challenge.

[00:34:20] And so that was something really exciting. So what’s working for me is just trying new things that I, again, fear that I was afraid that I would not be able to do. And what was working for me pre COVID massages. Oh, my God. I’m wicked is really hard on the body and getting and I’m not talking about really nice massages where someone just gently scratches your scalp.

[00:34:44] Yeah. like kind of pats you on the back. I’m this man, Aaron out in New York at the massage envy on 46th. If you’re listening. I love you. I miss you. He was like a sports massage therapist and he would hurt me in the best way. so that I’d be able to go and do my show again throughout the week.

[00:35:06] And yeah, that’s that all sounds like an innuendo for something else, but it really isn’t massages. I missed them. I miss people being able to like, I don’t know. Touch me weird. 

[00:35:17] Dane Reis: [00:35:17] no. 

[00:35:20] Perfect. And the fourth question, what is your best resource? Whether that is a book, a movie, a YouTube video, maybe a podcast or a piece of technology you found is helping your career right now.

[00:35:34]Lindsay Heather Pearce: [00:35:34] I love this question. I think something that’s been really helping in terms of like books. I really love audible right now. I have, I wasn’t much of an audio book person before. I love reading. Reading is a real escape for me. And right now, Especially when, I’m in the kitchen making freaking pies.

[00:35:55] Like I was saying before, it’s just, it’s nice to be told a story and that’s okay. It’s been a really fun thing. And I’ve been listening to books that are not self-help that are kind of fantasy based. Cause I love, I’m a Lord of the rings fan, C S Lewis. anything I love fantasy and other worldly.

[00:36:13]stories and I’ve been listening to the night circus by Erin Morgenstern.  I’ve just really enjoyed being able to listen to a story that has absolutely no connection to anything that is currently happening in the world.

[00:36:29] I’m probably just like an escapist, right? So I just, I really love being able to be lost in a world at least for a little bit. I find it to be real. We reach out and there’s something nice about having somebody do the reading for you, I guess. Um, but I, yeah, really great voice. And sometimes it’s the author, which is really exciting when the author reads their own work and, that’s been really lovely.

[00:36:56] And then podcasts that I love is armchair expert with 

[00:37:00] doc shepherd. So good. I’m a sober person and I just really respect. He just came out with an episode about. honesty and relapse and stuff. And I just, that is not easy. And to do that in the public eye and his interviews are always so good. And the fact checking at the end of the interviews and he’s, you can tell there’s just, there’s a good egg in there and it’s, in everybody involved and it’s just a really great podcast.

[00:37:23] It’s really intelligent and well thought out 

[00:37:26] and it’s nice and it makes me laugh. 

[00:37:28] Dane Reis: [00:37:28] Yeah, absolutely. Have you ever read or listened to Robert Jordan’s wheel of time series?

[00:37:35] Lindsay Heather Pearce: [00:37:35] no, I never ever have. And I know that I need to 

[00:37:40] I’m actually. Yeah. Yeah. I’m going to write that down right now. 

[00:37:47] Dane Reis: [00:37:47] I have read most of it and then, I guess I’ve really done. I’ve got the last handful of them to go through, 

[00:37:52] but, 

[00:37:53] I’ve done a combo of reading and listening and the readers that they’ve hired to do the reading, the audible versions. They’re brilliant.


[00:37:59] a, I believe it’s a husband wife team actually, and they flip flop as well throughout the

[00:38:04] Lindsay Heather Pearce: [00:38:04] That’s always so exciting. I love. I love that with, I just got done with, the starless seat, Erin Morgenstern again, and multiple voices, multiple voice actors for multiple different chapters that were supposed to be parts of different books. And so a section of the book would end and then a new chapter would begin with a different voice and it just keeps you engaged because it’s a different story.

[00:38:28] So it wouldn’t be the same voice actor for, it was just absolutely wonderful. And yeah, I just really appreciate being taken out of the seriousness of everything for a second and getting back to, I think it’s important to remember that you’re allowed pleasures, you’re allowed to smile.

[00:38:43] You’re allowed to be happy for even for a moment. And it’s hard when everything. Is so dire and is very deep and there’s a lot going on that’s important and that matters. and that you need to be putting some energy into, regardless of who you are. And, it’s always, you have to plug back in to you.

[00:39:04] And I think that however you can do that is really great. And for me, it’s storytelling.

[00:39:08]Dane Reis: [00:39:08] For sure. And the fifth question, if you had to start your career from scratch, but you still had all the knowledge and experience you’ve collected from your career in this industry, what would you do or not do? Would you do anything differently or would you keep it the same?

[00:39:26] Lindsay Heather Pearce: [00:39:26] I love this question.  I think that I would, if I was to change anything, I would make myself take dance classes earlier. Cause I am not a dancer. I can move. If you give me a couple hours and teach me the choreography, I will go and I will learn it. I will be at home going through the steps for a while.

[00:39:49] I’m a good, . Self-practice or, I do a lot of working overtime on that kind of stuff, because I know it’s not a skill that I have. I think that would be something that I would change everything. I think else though, I feel like this is such a common answer to give, but I feel like it just, I wouldn’t the who I am now and where I am now, if anything else changed, I would say, I wish that someone had told me.

[00:40:15]Slow down success is what you make it in. Time is just a construct. cause I got my first Broadway show at 28 and then I was about to turn 29 and I thought that I was too old for this. So it goes to show what the hell I know, which is a silly thing to say, I’m , I’m still in my twenties and I was like, I’m too old, but it does feel that again, comparison.

[00:40:37] Harrison constantly. So I think slow down, take a second, take a breath. Not everything is meant for you. That’s a good thing. How exhausted would you be if everything was meant you would be so overbooked Lindsey. So if everything was meant for you, you wouldn’t have a life. 

[00:40:58] Dane Reis: [00:40:58] That’s true. And the last question, what is the golden nugget knowledge drop you’ve learned from your successful career in this industry? You’d like to leave with our listeners.

[00:41:09]Lindsay Heather Pearce: [00:41:09] golden nugget drop. I feel like this is the question that has the most pressure. you know what? I do know what it is. It is drink your water, find your business, do your work, get your sleep. Be kind it’s that easy some times,

[00:41:28] please drink water. If you’re listening, go drink. Now you need it.

[00:41:33] Dane Reis: [00:41:33] Yes handy to wrap up this interview, Lindsey, it is time to give yourself a plug. Where can we find you? How do our listeners connect with you? Is there anything you want to promote?

[00:41:46]Lindsay Heather Pearce: [00:41:46] I am on the Instagrams at Lindsey, Heather Pierce. I have a Twitter, I think it’s Ms. Lindsey Pierce. Ms. Lindsey Paris. I’m not really on Twitter though. I don’t even think I have it on my phone. but I’m there. If you feel like if you feel like finding me on the Twitters, where else am I ha I’m on YouTube, Lindsey, Heather Pierce.

[00:42:08]And I am starting a fun Q and a kind of series YouTube just to keep the creative of theater love flowing. the first episode, you’d call it is going to be about there and everything. I get a lot of questions all the time about bear and I was thinking, why don’t I just make a video to answer all those questions that people have been wanting answers to so that.

[00:42:29] That’s going to be a fun thing. That’s just for me, but that other people can watch if they want to. I’m just talking about memories and all of that and promote not really, if you want to connect with me, you can, I’m pretty good about answering direct messages. And, I interact a lot on Instagram because it’s fun and it’s light and yeah, Oh, I do have a tick talk, but it’s mostly just, The garden, it’s mostly just my mom’s garden and, and the big sunflower that is taking over the garden.

[00:42:57] So if you’re interested in that, go to the tick-tock and I think that’s Lindsey had her Pierce as well.

[00:43:02] Dane Reis: [00:43:02] Beautiful. And for everyone listening out there, I have put the links to everything Lindsey just said into the description of this episode. Lindsay, thank you so much for being 

[00:43:14] here, jumping on, joining me. 

[00:43:16] It’s been an absolute pleasure having you on. 

[00:43:19]Lindsay Heather Pearce: [00:43:19] Oh, my gosh. Thank you so much for having me. This has been so great.