Riley Costello


EP 140: Riley Costello (autogenerated)


[00:00:00] Dane Reis: [00:00:00] you booked it? Episode one 40. Oh, ride. Oh, let’s get started. I am excited to introduce my guest today. Riley Castello. Are you ready for this Riley? 

[00:00:15]Riley Costello: [00:00:15] You bet.

[00:00:16]Dane Reis: [00:00:16] All right. Riley is currently playing Bach in wicked on Broadway. Other Broadway credits include 13. Bye bye birdie.

[00:00:24] And everyday rapture. He has been seen on TV as Brad in NBCs hairspray live and several other shows and commercials. He has performed all over the country in different regional houses as. Finch in how to succeed. And Peter pan at Connecticut rep surf in Las Vegas, puck in a Midsummer night’s dream at the metropolitan opera and several performances at the Hollywood ball Riley, that is a quick intro of who you are and what you’ve done.

[00:00:55] But why don’t you tell us a little bit more about yourself, fill in the gaps and a little bit more about what you do as a professional in the entertainment industry.

[00:01:05]Riley Costello: [00:01:05] thank you. Um, yes, it all sounds very exciting when you say it. Like that, it sounds, it sounds like somebody else’s life. Um, let’s see. I am from the Bay area in California originally. Um, I’ve really been performing my whole life since I was well, I’ve been singing since I was probably. Two or three. And, uh, my first stage show, I was seven, I believe.

[00:01:29] And then I started working professionally at 14 years old. And just, you can’t keep me away from this business. So I have stuck around this whole time and now I’ve just somehow been lucky enough to make a life doing what I love.  I’ve been by coastal for the past five years, you know, we go, you know, we go, we go where the work is. So I now sort of have a home base in LA and  it feels like I’m in New York all the time for work. So

[00:01:57]that’s kind of, yeah, a little bit of what I do and who I am, I guess.

[00:01:59]Dane Reis: [00:01:59] Very cool. And do you prefer one of the coasts over the other or are they completely there on things for you?

[00:02:05]Riley Costello: [00:02:05] They’re completely they’re on things. I think for me specifically, LA makes a lot of sense as a home base, as I said, um, it just is a little bit more stable and, uh, there’s more space. You just, you just feel a little bit more like your home when you’re here. And obviously there’s a ton of work opportunity out here.

[00:02:22] And I love, I really feel like I’m in the game when I’m auditioning out here. Um, and then, I mean, New York is my first love is a city. I, I moved before I went to high school, so my whole high school career in New York and, and the years after that, Uh, you know, those are the years that you’re really coming into your own and growing up.

[00:02:37] And so I feel like a new Yorker in LA, really like that’s the best way to describe it, because my upbringing was in the theater. So I think like you find your tribe of theater. There are people in LA and those become like, you’re, you’re close, you’re close people.

[00:02:55] Dane Reis: [00:02:55] very cool. And let’s move on to our first section here and Riley, look, I am a sucker for a good quote. What is your favorite quote? You’d like to share with everyone

[00:03:08]Riley Costello: [00:03:08] I have this, I, this is truly my favorite quote. It seems funny to do it at the start of any sort of conversation, because it feels very final, but it is just without a doubt. My favorite quote, it, it moves me like no other, it’s an Erma Bombeck quote. And maybe somebody used it before, but it’s something like when I stand before God, at the end of my life, I would hope that I would not have a single ounce of talent left.

[00:03:33] , you know, so I could say I used everything you gave me.

[00:03:35]Dane Reis: [00:03:35] , I don’t think I’ve heard that one on the show. I I’ve read that one somewhere. And that is so great.

[00:03:41]Riley Costello: [00:03:41] it’s so much, it’s like chills up and down your spine. When, when, when I think about it, I, I, I love 

[00:03:45] Dane Reis: [00:03:45] I love it. Yeah. And can you expand on that just a little bit? I mean, it’s pretty self explanatory, but can you , expand on how it really relates to you and your career and your life?

[00:03:56]Riley Costello: [00:03:56] sure. Yeah. I was just born an artist. I was born, ready to do this. I didn’t, there was no or any other options. I, you know, I came out of the womb singing bass basically. And so I don’t know where that it comes from. You know, I don’t know where that comes from and whatever you believe, whether it’s God, the universe, some divine energy, something that you don’t, you know, science, whatever, whatever you want to call it.

[00:04:15]Um, I don’t know why. You know, I feel lucky that I was born knowing exactly what I wanted to do. Obviously this business has its ups and downs, ups and downs, but, uh, I think, I think if, if you know this, this need to, to share my voice and share my art and make, and create and share that with, with people. Um, if that is from something bigger than me,  I want to make sure that I’m.

[00:04:37] You sing it. I want to make sure that I’m doing what I’m here to do, which I think, I think that’s why I’m here. I mean, I don’t know, but if that is why I’m here, I want to make sure I’m doing it.   um, I was just, I was just born with urgency. I’ve always been like a bit of an old soul ready to go.

[00:04:49]Um, and so I think that that quote, just that quote motivates me to make stuff, to keep going.

[00:04:56]Dane Reis: [00:04:56] yeah, love that. Love that explanation in how it’s worked its way into your life. And. Let’s get into this next section here. And Riley, of course you are an entertainer. I’m an entertainer. And I think that you’d agree that this industry can be one of the most subjective, brutally, honest, personally, emotional industries in existence.

[00:05:20] And you know, you know, as well as I, that in order to create and have a successful career in this industry, like you’re having now takes a lot. Of dedication and hard work. And while yeah, there’s an outrageous amount of fun and excitement doing what we do. There are also our fair share of obstacles, challenges, and failures.

[00:05:40] We are going to experience and we’re going to have to move forward through. So tell us, what is one key challenge, obstacle or failure you’ve experienced in your career? We are. And how did you come out the other side better because of it.

[00:05:53]Riley Costello: [00:05:53] It’s interesting. I, I don’t know that there has been one. You know, specific thing, but I think because I started so young, the constant question, I mean, I mean, we all, as artists constantly questioned, is this right? Am I still supposed to be doing this? You know, and am I, am I need it? Am I, am I useful? Am I, am I doing anything different?

[00:06:11] And I, you know, is it, is it worth it? Cause it’s sometimes just hurts so bad. I’ve been pretty lucky, I would say. In what is it now like 13 years or so working professionally to not have had my butt kicked too hard by this, but there was this one period of months. Where I was let go of a, from a project that I had been working on for a number of years and I, in the same week, there was a dream job that I was in final callbacks for.

[00:06:43] And I was, I was effectively sort of told I was going to get this role and, and it ended up not happening because of sort of sort of a clerical error actually. And, and then there was something else. I don’t know what it was, but there was this, there was this month or two months stretch where it was just like, well, well, I guess we’re getting all of this stuff out of the way right now.

[00:07:01] And that just took, that just took, that just took me out. And I thought, you know, I think I just chose to be grateful that it wasn’t always, it hasn’t always been like that for me. But I think, 

[00:07:10] Dane Reis: [00:07:10] think, I think 

[00:07:12] Riley Costello: [00:07:12] how, how do you come out on the other side of that? 

[00:07:14] Dane Reis: [00:07:14] that, I think. 

[00:07:15]Riley Costello: [00:07:15] I love listening to actors. Talk about what they do. I really, I really, I really do.

[00:07:19] And. People that I consider to be at the top of their game, at the top of their craft, their careers. They’re just having the most success in, from my point of view, you listen to them talk and they say exactly this, which is that it never feels any different, no matter what level you’re at, there’s always going to be rooms you don’t get in.

[00:07:36] There’s always going to be a part you wish you could play that they just don’t see you for. There’s always going to be someone you think, you know, you you’d like someone you want to be seen or working with or whatever. And. And I think the important thing to take from that is that if you can be happy now in this career, you’ll always be happy because it probably won’t feel any different.

[00:07:59] So no matter how, no matter how, no matter how successful you get quote unquote, it, it, it it’ll always happen as these ups and downs and always has those challenges. So if you can dust yourself off and keep going and know that what is meant for you will not pass you by. I know you’re going to be okay.

[00:08:14]Dane Reis: [00:08:14] , so great. No matter how successful you get, you always have the ups and downs and the challenges. Like you said the, you said there always be the room that you can’t get into the, the role that you just, they won’t see you as being the right fit for. And thank you so much for sharing that, because that is massive.

[00:08:33] And I think that really ties into living in the present and enjoying the now, like you said, if you can be happy doing what doing now, then you can be happy in this career. And that is such a massive takeaway for everyone listening. This is why this podcast has become so important for fellow entertainers that are in this industry professionally aspiring people wanting to be part of this industry that is such golden advice.

[00:09:01] Thank you, Riley, for saying that.

[00:09:02]Riley Costello: [00:09:02] Oh, well, my pleasure.

[00:09:04] Dane Reis: [00:09:04] Yeah. And well, let’s move on to a time that I like to call your. Spotlight moment. That one moment in time you realized, yes, I am going to be an entertainer for a living or maybe it was, yes. This is what I need to be doing as an entertainer. Tell us about that.

[00:09:26]Riley Costello: [00:09:26] Yeah, I think the second half of that, this is what I need to be doing as an entertainer or continues to evolve. I think that will hopefully always evolve. Cause I, I would like to think that I can keep growing and learning more and, and, and obviously your type changes as you get older too. So 

[00:09:39] Dane Reis: [00:09:39] I can get it right. 

[00:09:40] Riley Costello: [00:09:40] whether it’s, you know, you know, more, more things to be doing on the other side of the table or whatever, I think.

[00:09:44]Um, that’s the great thing about this business, uh, is that there is so much you can do and so many different ways to be creative. Um, but back to the first, the first part of that, the spotlight moment, um, I think I have to start with how I got started. Cause it’s, it’s kind of kind of a cool story. I think,

[00:09:59] Dane Reis: [00:09:59] yeah, let’s hear it.

[00:10:00] Riley Costello: [00:10:00] Yeah, sure. Okay. I was, uh, in, uh, a community theater production of big, the musical when I was 12. And I played young Josh who has this really nice ballot in act two. It’s a really pretty song. Um, very emotional and, uh, you know, I was 12, I just was singing and doing my thing. I didn’t think anything of it.

[00:10:20] And. Apparently someone that knew Jason Robert Brown was in the audience of this 175 seat theater in an old barn that I grew up performing in, uh, in my hometown. And after like a month or two after the show, we got a personal email from Jason, Robert Brown. My mom got a personal email from him that was like, Hey, I’m working on this show for teenagers and  we’re we’re, we’re looking everywhere.

[00:10:46] And I hear, I hear your son’s got something going on. So does he want to come to LA and audition for this? New show. And my mom and I had no idea who this man was. And we, I mean, we didn’t know, it just, it

[00:10:58] Dane Reis: [00:10:58] Yeah, of 

[00:10:58] course. 

[00:10:59] Riley Costello: [00:10:59] into our laps. And so I flew to LA for this first audition and, uh, it took like a year and a half, several rounds of, of, you know, different, different, you know, different rounds, different.

[00:11:11]Uh, cities to go through in different callbacks. And, uh, I remember during that process, looking at my mom, cause again, I didn’t have an agent at this point. I was truly, I was just doing a community theater show. Um, and I looked at my mom during the callbacks, one of the callbacks, and I said, I just realized, I get this.

[00:11:26] Are you going to let me do it? Like we hadn’t even discussed, like time was moving so quickly. We hadn’t even discussed whether or not this was actually a legitimate possibility. But , after that initial audition and meeting with Jason, uh, it was like maybe a year and a half later that I.

[00:11:40] We moved to New York and started started, we opened the show on Broadway, uh, and that’s, that’s how I started professional. So I think that’s probably the best like spotlight moment, because , it’s, it’s sort of sort of just into this world. Uh, and then I just kept going, when that show closed, it was just like, well, I guess I do this now.

[00:11:58]So. , you know, I always, I always thought I’d get there eventually. I always, I figured I’d go to conservatory. I figured I’d stay in my hometown till I was 18, like everybody else. And I thought I would, you know, go to a school and study and I, it just, it just happened in once it started. I didn’t, I didn’t want to stop.

[00:12:11] I didn’t want to lose that moment. Um, so I just said just still going.

[00:12:16]Dane Reis: [00:12:16] , that is so good. And I want to piggyback on that real quick and talk about your number one, booked it moment. Walk us through that day, the auditions and callbacks. If they happen to be a part of it, what was going on in your life? And what about that moment? Makes it your favorite book moment?

[00:12:37]Riley Costello: [00:12:37] Great question. I think I’m going to have to talk about wicked for this one.

[00:12:42]Um, because Like Like so many people that listen and have been on this show before. Uh, I was a massive, massive, massive fan of it, and I obviously listened to the CD in the car every single day when it came out. Uh, I was so obsessed with the show.

[00:13:00]That, uh, I turned the garage of the house. I grew up in, into a theater and , my parents couldn’t park a car in there for years, and I would, I would, I would build sets and lighting and costumes and fond machines and karaoke tracks and whatever. And I would perform wicked like every day after school, by myself, in my garage, as well as many other musicals.

[00:13:18] But wicked was, I think the one that started that, but we did a little Fiddler. We did it a little, uh, Phantom and we did a little Joseph and he missing Technicolor dream coat for some reason.

[00:13:26] Um, 

[00:13:28] and yeah. Oh, totally. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, so we just, you know, I would perform in that garage every single day after school.

[00:13:34]Um, so for that reason, uh, booking wicked was very special to me, but also the way it came about felt very, I guess just meant to be, uh, I was, 

[00:13:43]  so I auditioned for the show out in LA actually about once, maybe twice a year.

[00:13:47] I don’t know. They come out and they do an LA session. Um, and you know, I’ve known Craig burns at Telsey since I was 14. And Bach seems like a pretty obvious choice for me. So I, I had been in for so many years, um, that happens with so many people , uh, for this show specifically, you know, You go in for years and years and years, and it’s just not the right time, not the right fit, whatever.

[00:14:07]Um, so I’ve definitely been seen for this role before, but for some reason, it just, it just felt like all the pieces clicked this time.  so I went in, uh, in, uh, in January of 2019 and, uh, I heard nothing. I got some really nice feedback. And I heard nothing until may. And at the end of may, I was doing a show at the Hollywood bowl and we were doing like a sitz probe rehearsal.

[00:14:27]Uh, we’re all out on stage. And I absentmindedly was going through my phone and I had this email that said, checking Riley’s availability for Bach on Broadway. Here’s the dates. And I nearly threw my phone into

[00:14:37] Dane Reis: [00:14:37] what.

[00:14:39] Riley Costello: [00:14:39] because I was not expecting that. I hadn’t thought about it in months. I hadn’t.

[00:14:42] The audition was in January. Here we are on labor day, Memorial day, weekend. Um, And it was, it was nuts. And then I was also in the middle of callbacks for another project. And then this, and this always happens by the way, a quick sidebar is that you it’s like you’ll have nothing for a year sometimes, or like months and months and months, then all of a sudden you get like two things at once and you have to make a horrible decision.

[00:15:03] It’s you just wish they could out some. Um, but so I was, I was. Actually supposed to go to New York for this final callback for this other thing, which was exciting. And I just kind of thought, well, this is weird. This is a lot of stuff swirling around at once. And I kept getting like tidbits of information from wicked, but it still wasn’t.

[00:15:21] Yeah. Official offers. I was really like really confused and excited, but I didn’t want to get my hopes up. Cause you know, you know, I, nothing is ever for sure until it has already happened in my mind. Um,  so I was in New York for this, for this other thing and finish that final call back. And I, you know, I hadn’t been to New York in a while.

[00:15:39] I did go back commonly for work, you know, a week or two here and there for a workshop or whatever it was. Um, but I hadn’t spent a good, it had been awhile since I had been in New York. So I was, it felt good to be back there. And I thought, you know, you know, if I am getting here from wicked, I hope I hear while I’m here because.

[00:15:56] It just felt really special. It felt very full circle. For me. It had been almost 10 years since I had been in a Broadway show. Everyday rapture was 2010  and so it felt like this really amazing full circle thing. I was with my good friend from high school leaving the final callback for the other project.

[00:16:10] And my phone rang. It was my manager. We were going to my favorite restaurant. In the city that I was like, you know, I was there for 24 hours. I was planning all my, you know, you know, the best of, it just logical New York moment of hearing that I got the job. I couldn’t believe it just because of what that show meant to me personally.

[00:16:25] I think that was a very roundabout way to say that, but wow, thanks for sticking around. Um, what that show meant to me personally and what it meant for me to be coming back to New York in this way for something was, was really, really special. And. Um, I think I cried a little bit. I mean, it was, it was just this amazing moment of, I really couldn’t believe it.

[00:16:41] It just felt so much bigger than me and I was so, so excited to be, to be coming back in my, you know, dream show.

[00:16:47]Dane Reis: [00:16:47] Oh, that is so cool. And you’re right. Wicked is. Kind of Kind of like aunt in a league of its own, you know, and I think Hamilton is just going to join it up there. You know what I mean? But it’s been around and lion Kings up there, Phantoms up there, right. right. Says up there, but there’s all these hallmark shows have just been around for so long.

[00:17:05]Right. And so I conic, but wicked man, that music is something. Anything else? Steven Schwartz is brilliant at writing music that you just want to leave singing. That’s what I love about that show. Oh, talk about a little bit. Once you got into the show, you started rehearsals opening. Talk about that a little bit.

[00:17:23] Riley Costello: [00:17:23] Sure. Yeah. I, I had never, I’d never joined anything in progress before. I’d always open the show with everybody. So, um, it was a very new experience rehearsing by myself sometimes in, in the show like wicked. I mean, I mean, they, they put people in every other day. I mean, I mean, we have so many new people coming in all the time.

[00:17:39] It’s a. Very large company. So, uh, but it was apparently very unusual that I was the only person joining on this date. So I did almost my entire rehearsal process alone with just me dance, captains, stage management, and, uh, you know, occasionally, and then at the end, you know, everyone would come in and see the put in, but for the majority of my two weeks rehearsal, it was just me.

[00:18:01]And, and so it just was the most bizarre. It just almost didn’t feel real. Uh, to be in a rehearsal space by myself, just shouting good. You know, thinking, you know, and I remember saying to myself, rather, you have to just throw yourself into this, or you will never be ready because I know it feels so wrong to just be belting at the top of your lungs alone in a room, but you have no choice.

[00:18:25] You have no choice or you will not be ready on the day, but. The, the team, the team there, it’s such a well oiled machine at this point that , I felt very comfortable. I felt very ready. And, um, I, because I was such a fan of the show and I had seen it like an embarrassing number of times. I definitely, I definitely probably could have done it.

[00:18:41] Fewer rehearsals, just the dance captains were making fun of me for that because they would teach me something. And then I would, you know, I guess pick it up quickly and they’d be like, are you sure you haven’t done this show before? I was like, Nope, just a fan.

[00:18:52] But, but you know, but you know, it was also really cool to, uh, to rehearse and kind of be led in, on all the secrets of how everything was done.

[00:18:59] Like the things that I didn’t know as an audience, I was like, Oh, that’s how you do that. That’s cool.

[00:19:03]Dane Reis: [00:19:03] Oh, that is very cool. And let’s take a moment to talk about the present. What projects are you working on now? What are you looking forward to? And. It’s a weird time, right? We are amidst this global pandemic. How do you see the entertainment industry moving forward in the next couple of years?

[00:19:24]Riley Costello: [00:19:24] I wish I knew. I wish I knew.  I guess we know where I was when this all happened. We were, we were all in rehearsal on, on the Gershwin stage and, you know, the playbill article came out that Broadway was going to be dark for a month at the time. And we all kind of looked at each other like, Oh, I guess there’s no show tonight.

[00:19:40] Which again is totally unheard of, especially for a beast of a show like wicked, which has been around forever. You just, you’d never think about the show, not happening in that space. So, so yeah, I mean, we don’t know, we don’t know what’s going to happen. We don’t know when we’ll be back. I mean, the show will be back, but we don’t know what it’s going to look like.

[00:19:56] And, let’s see, what am I looking forward to?  I’m really looking forward to what I hope is this like creative Renaissance after this? I mean, or, or, or, or from this it’s of this time, it’s not, it’s not after, because I don’t, I don’t know. I don’t know that it’s going to feel, uh, solid, like we’re in it now, and then we’re not in it.

[00:20:13] I think it’s good. It’ll be a gradual shift and change. And I think, you know, every it’s kind of forced everybody to just get back to what. Makes us all happy, which is, you know, for artists making art and making, making stuff. And so I know people are out there being creative. I myself am working on my own music projects and been able to like work a little bit remotely for like demo recordings for composers and stuff like that.

[00:20:38]So, yeah, it’s just, it’s it’s it feels more like a pivot than a stop. We’re all just trying to find new ways to. To keep that creative fire lit. And I, I started this, I started this, I put out covers on my Instagram and I started this thing called musical Mondays, which it, once, once, once the dependent got a little more intense, I kind of took a break.

[00:20:58] I’m going to come back with some more music soon. And it was every Monday. Um, but now, now it might be an occasional Monday. We’ll see. But it’s something that has kept me. Going and kept me being creative and learning new skills about music, production and audio editing. And I’ve been able to work remotely with some friends and work on some really exciting duets, you know, virtually with people which has just been so fun to figure out.

[00:21:22] And so I, you know, for me, it’s like doing the things that make me happy, singing, sharing music, all of that. So I’m, I’m, I’m hoping that everybody, I know there will be a big, a big, uh, Swell of content  you know, from this, from this time. And I’m excited to see all of that.

[00:21:35]Dane Reis: [00:21:35] yeah, me too. I love your insight. And I agree with you. I, I had a guest on the other day. His name is Benjamin Simpson and he is a two time  Tony award winning producer. And he also believes it’s going to be loads of content because he said him as a producer  before.

[00:21:54] COVID . His day was filled chock full of just running the day to day. Right. And now during covert time, he has the time to read the scripts from unknown playwrights, listen to the music of unknown composers. And , it’s not just the content being created. It’s that the people that have the abilities to turn these works into huge products They’re the ones that have the ability, the time to now look at that content live with that content and go, you know what? I like this idea let’s make this.

[00:22:26] Riley Costello: [00:22:26] yeah. Yeah, I can’t wait. And I think that also speaks to, you know, there incredible movement going on in our country and our world right now that I I’m, I’m hopeful that we’re going to come back with a more inclusive, diverse, and, and just, uh, you know, art that really reflects the world we live in and who’s in it because there’s there, you know, these voices have been.

[00:22:45] Begging to be heard. And maybe since everybody’s been able to take a step back from their day to day, they’re finally listening. So I’m, I’m hopeful again. I’m hopeful. I really, I think I am pretty often about the future. Um, but I think there’s also that energy of we’re just going to hang tight until we’re until, until it’s safe, you know, but I know, I know that artists are resilient and I think some of the best art has come out of moments like this.

[00:23:07] And you know, it’s not the first trauma our world has been through. And I think.  I know that there’s, I know that there’s a brighter future and, and I I’m sure it’s full of, I’m sure it’s full of art.

[00:23:17]Dane Reis: [00:23:17] Yeah, agreed. And it is time to move on to one of my favorite sections in the interview. I call it the grease lightning round. I am going to ask you a handful of questions. I want you to answer them as quickly and concisely as possible one after another. Are you ready?

[00:23:36] Riley Costello: [00:23:36] Oh boy. Okay. Let’s go.

[00:23:38]Dane Reis: [00:23:38] All right. First question. What was the one thing holding you back from committing to a career as an entertainer?

[00:23:44]Riley Costello: [00:23:44] I don’t know that you could, I don’t think you could stop me. I think I don’t, I don’t have anything else to do.

[00:23:51] Dane Reis: [00:23:51] second question. What is the best piece of advice you have ever received?

[00:23:57]Riley Costello: [00:23:57] I think it sounds cliche, but I really think it’s true. You just have to find out what you do and what sets you apart. And that’s what you do. I think you have to find what you do, what makes you special and stand out and then, and then try to try to hone that.

[00:24:10]Dane Reis: [00:24:10] Yes. Great advice. And the third question, what is something that is working for you right now? Or if you’d like to go pre COVID, what was working for you before our industry went on? Pause.

[00:24:23]Riley Costello: [00:24:23] Yeah, I think I’ll do. I think I’ll do the general pre COVID one, just because I spoke a little bit about what this time in history feels like right now, and what’s working for me now, but I think, I think pre COVID and on any job as a general thing, you just have to have kind of a. Let’s see like a screw, everything, my mentality.

[00:24:40] And you just got to focus on what you’re, what you’re doing and listen to your, listen to your unique voice as an artist. And obviously you have to be collaborative and work with people. Well, it’s not, Well, it’s not, it’s not that it’s a different thing. It’s about, you have to stop worrying about. Everybody else and what everybody else is doing.

[00:24:57]Uh, and I mean, I really think you can never compare your, your journey to anyone else. I just think there’s room for everybody. So I think that works for me is that having that, having that trust or that, you know what, just leave that, leave that behind attitude and just focus on like horse blinders. You gotta go, you gotta do what you’re doing.

[00:25:14] Dane Reis: [00:25:14] Oh, such great advice. So valuable to everyone listening. And the fourth question, what is your best resource? Whether that is a book, a movie, a YouTube video, maybe a podcast or a piece of technology that you found is helping your career right now.

[00:25:31]Riley Costello: [00:25:31] Like I said, I do. I do lot of listening to whether it’s podcasts or even press junkets on films or, or, or, or panels or whatever. I love listening to people talk about what they do. I love hearing about the creative process. I think, um, another great resources. I just am so inspired watching. Performers do it like watching performers, perform, watching whether that’s really, really great films or really great TV, or like, I always liked to be watching what’s happening right now, uh, to see where, where the industry is. What’s, what’s going on. What’s popular right now. What’s trendy and what’s just, what’s, what’s, what’s hot right now.

[00:26:06]Um, and I think, I think it’s, you know, whether that’s live theater or something on a screen, I’m just so inspired by watching. fellow performers do what they do. I just love watching people, you know, just on fire with whatever their, you know, whatever their thing is. I want to watch people just do their thing.

[00:26:21] So that’s honestly, and that, because then that motivates me to do my thing. It just, it motivates all of us. I think I’m inspired by seeing people 

[00:26:29] Dane Reis: [00:26:29] people. . So good. And also as a community, not only is it great and insightful and wonderful, and you can learn from it, but. Supporting each other, supporting the arts, being part of this community that we love so much,

[00:26:45] Riley Costello: [00:26:45] Totally. And I just think, I think like the absorption of all of that information, or, you know, you might, again, like you said, I don’t know if I said it’s that you just said it’s, it’s great. Like you learn from that too. You really do learn from watching and you get inspired by.

[00:26:59]Dane Reis: [00:26:59] Yeah. And the fifth question, if you had to start your career from scratch, but you still had all the knowledge and experience you’ve collected from your career in this industry, what would you do or not do? Would you do anything differently or would you keep it the same?

[00:27:16]Riley Costello: [00:27:16] I think I would, I, I don’t honestly know if I would do anything differently. I think because I, I do think I’m quite happy with where I am. I think things have happened for me when they were supposed to happen. I don’t know that I would have been ready for certain life experiences, career or otherwise. Um, You know if they had happened earlier, but I do.

[00:27:36] I do. Um, maybe I wouldn’t have worried so much, like maybe my anxiety levels would have been a little lower cause I just would’ve really had faith that everything would work out. But you know, I actually don’t, I don’t know that I would do anything differently because I think everything I’ve learned, um, professional or personal has always had ha has, uh, gratefully like put me in a, in a really, in a very comfortable place these days.

[00:27:56] And I feel. Ready for whatever’s next.

[00:27:59]Dane Reis: [00:27:59] Brilliant. And the last question, what is the golden nugget knowledge drop you’ve learned from your successful career in this industry? You’d like to leave with our listeners.

[00:28:11]Riley Costello: [00:28:11] I think it’s sort of similar to the best advice I had, which was you just have to find out what you do. You can not worry. About being the next blank or being, you know, Or, you reminded me of blank. That’s awesome. And that’s great. And sometimes that’s a really big compliment, but you’ve got to find out why you’re in this, what you do, what you do well, and why, what about this makes you happy?

[00:28:37]you just got it. You have to do you because you are unique and you are special and, and, and singular. So you, you, you’ve got to find out what sets you apart and then, and then try to build off of that Because we need your unique voice, your story. Isn’t the same as anybody else’s obviously we can all learn and relate to people’s stories. There’s something so unique about each individual artists voice. And so find, find out what makes you, you, and just throw yourself into that.

[00:29:03]Dane Reis: [00:29:03] yes. Find out what makes you, you, you. So good. And to wrap up this interview, Riley, it is time to give yourself a plug. Where can we find you? How do our listeners connect with you? Is there anything you want to promote?

[00:29:21] Riley Costello: [00:29:21] Oh, my goodness. Well, Well, I try to keep my Instagram very exciting and full of adventure is creative and otherwise. So give me a follow. My handle is at I’m ready. Like Costello. Um, and like I said, I, I commonly we’ll post some awesome music on Mondays and if that’s become a passion projects for me and, um, I always have really cool people that I’m, you know, working on songs with, some of them are solo, but I try to keep it really fun and, and put out some good music occasionally. 

[00:29:49]Dane Reis: [00:29:49] beautiful. And for everyone listening out there,  I have put Riley’s Instagram handle in the description of this episode. So you can easily connect with him and also be sure to share this podcast with fellow entertainers, coaches, teachers, or anybody that, you know, you know, who’s aspiring to create a career in this.

[00:30:11] Industry you booked. It has become the largest resource of expertise on this very specific subject in the world. It is integral to helping them succeed in this business. Riley, thank you so much for taking the time to be with me today. It’s been a pleasure getting to know you and have a chat

[00:30:33] Riley Costello: [00:30:33] Thank you. Likewise, this was fun.