EP 146: Emily Martinez (autogenerated)
Dane Reis: [00:00:00] you booked it episode 146. Okay. Let’s get started. I am excited to introduce my guest today. Emily Martinez. Are you ready for this Emily? All right. Emily is a musical theater, performer and content creator hailing from a Weehawken New Jersey before she, her husband, Gabe and they’re annoyingly adorable pit bull, Daisy settled near the big Apple.
[00:00:33] Emily was leading production shows with carnival cruise lines for four years, sailing around the world. Pre COVID. Emily was seen as Joe in the workshop at 54 below concert of starry, a new musical and his frown line cost in Columbia university’s production of cabaret for six years, Emily has been curating content on her performance lifestyle channel, the home of the forever theater kid, where she brings her personal expertise of the musical theater and cruise ship world balanced with her hot messiness of human life, to her rowing community or videos from stage makeup tutorials to travel vlogs, to backstage tours, to drunken breakdowns of your favorite Broadway way. Show is Emily’s mission is to help humans with a passion for the arts to navigate the and downs of the musical theater world while still celebrating their enoughness every step.
[00:01:28] Of the way the falls are just as special and important as the climbs. And Emily wants her audience to know that there are many paths to the top of the mountain and that her channel is a safe place for them to celebrate the beautiful weirdness that is the world of musical theater. Emily. That is a quick intro of who you are and what you’ve done, but why don’t you tell us a little bit more about yourself?
[00:01:52] Fill in the gaps and a little bit more about what you do as a professional in the entertainment industry.
[00:01:59]Emily Martinez: [00:01:59] we’re all just a little bit of everything right. These days.
Um, so yeah, I’m, I’m right across the river from Midtown Manhattan and we Hawk in New Jersey, very close to the battlegrounds of Hamilton and Burr. I like to use that for my little. Musical theater kicks. Um, I’m a firm, mama and wife. I am a actor right now and gig life performer.
[00:02:22] Whenever a gig comes along, I do a lot of freelance work, especially with video editing and video creation. And I’m really trying to work on creating a safe space to be authentically myself, encourage others, to do the same with my channel in the theater space and trying to find my own path through my YouTube channel to hopefully one day achieve some dreams of being on
[00:02:47] Broadway and beyond.
[00:02:49]Dane Reis: [00:02:49] Brilliant. And I loved your YouTube channel by the way, I was watching
the, the drunken review or synopsis of Hamilton. Very funny, Very funny, very funny.
[00:03:01] Emily Martinez: [00:03:01] Tipsy tales. She,
uh, she’s, she’s grown and I, over the years, she first started with, uh, I say she as the, as the channel, not, not speaking in third person. Oh gosh, that would have been awful. Um, uh, tipsy tails started as. Drunkenly reading children’s books. And then I thought that’s probably a lot of copyright mass if I do that.
Uh, so I stopped for a couple of years and then I started doing it again during quarantine and going, I should just do it with musical theater and I’ve grown a passion for it again, which I mean, having one too many drinks after you’re 30 is the next day is a little rough, but it always comes out to be a good video.
I’m, I’m happy to do it.
[00:03:40] Dane Reis: [00:03:40] It’s worth
[00:03:41] Emily Martinez: [00:03:41] it sometimes.
[00:03:42] Dane Reis: [00:03:42] Indeed. All right. Well,
Well, let’s jump into this first section here and Emily, look, I am a sucker for a good quote. What is your favorite quote? You’d like to share with everyone?
[00:03:55] Emily Martinez: [00:03:55] Okay. So I realize my favorite quote, I’ve been reading it as a different variation, but this is the actual quotes from,
um, JRR Tolkien. And it is not that. Oh, okay. It is all that is gold. Does not glitter. Not all those who wander are lost. And I feel like that’s always in the back of my mind in some iteration or other.
Um, and I feel like every time I look at it, I go, yeah, that’s my lifestyle. That’s my lifestyle.
[00:04:24]Dane Reis: [00:04:24] , I really liked that quote. And let’s get into this next section here. And Emily, of course you are an entertainer. I am an entertainer. And I think that you would agree that this industry can be one of the most subjective, brutally, honest, personally, emotional industries in existence. And you know,
you know, as well as I, that in order to create and have a successful career in this industry, like your having now, it takes a lot.
[00:04:54] Of dedication and hard work. And while yeah, there’s an outrageous amount of fun and excitement doing what we do. There are also our fair share of obstacles, challenges, and failures. We are going to experience and we’re going to have to move forward through. So tell us, what is one key challenge, obstacle or failure you’ve experienced in your career and how did you come out the other side better because of it.
[00:05:19] Emily Martinez: [00:05:20] I think that was a, that’s a hard question because I feel like there’s a lot that I’m still in. Sometimes that I feel like I’m not on the other end of yet, but I think that’s normal and actually really important to realize that this whole process of our industry is a journey. And as painful as that sometimes is to hear, it’s very true.
[00:05:40] That it’s really about the process because every time we. Get an achievement. We want more. I think that’s
kind of ingrained as artists as we want to just keep going. Um, I mean, Broadway might be one of our biggest dreams, but I feel like people who work on Broadway for years and years and years are hoping to find something else too.
[00:05:55] So it’s an ever evolving, ever changing process. So a couple of things in that realm. That have been challenges for me that I’m still working through.
Um, one of them, I think the biggest one is comparison. And I think that kind of works in any industry. I think ours is probably even more specific because we have so many visual elements and so many.
Um, since elements to feel con compared to whether we’re comparing our voices to another person’s voices, our body types to another person’s body types, um, people putting out bootlegs of people, different people’s performances, kind of saying who did it best? You know, there’s so much comparison and so much space for us to see the comparison now with the internet, um, with YouTube, with Instagram.
[00:06:41]And so that’s something that I’m constantly working through as is.
Kind of going back to like my quote, it’s just like, you know, it’s the grass, isn’t always greener, right? It’s everybody’s experiences their own. You never know what people are going through behind the Instagram filter. You know, we show our highlight reels and we curate them and we’re proud of our, our curated.
[00:07:01]Highlight reels because those are important, but there’s a lot that goes on behind the scenes that people aren’t showing and that everyone who has an Instagram or everyone was YouTube or has a bad audition day. Like those are human beings.
Right. And, and it’s easy to compare yourself. Uh, one, I think probably the biggest challenge I’ve had that I think every single person in our industry has at some point is a body competence issue.
Um, Especially, I worked on cruise ships for four years, and that was probably my biggest challenge. I would have thought performing and, and learning different styles of music was my biggest challenge. But my biggest challenge was definitely, um, taking up space as a curvier woman. I mean, I’m still even in a smaller body compared to.
You know, the, the world at large, I would be considered a smaller body body, but in the cruise ship industry, I was told many times that I was too big to be on stage and that no one would want to look at me. And kind of, I kind of almost lost my job a couple of times, just honestly, being a normal sized human being who enjoyed eating right every meal of the day, or, you know, despite how much rehearsal, you know, your body holds on to different stuff when you’re under stress and.
[00:08:08] And my body technically holds on weight when I’m under stress. And so even though fine with it and learning everything and getting show ready in my mind of music and dance. Yeah. And learning all the ins and outs. So cruise ship, life thinking, I am show ready. There are a lot of times when supervisors would say, Oh, you’re not show ready because you don’t look so ready to me.
that, that was a, that’s a big hurdle that I was going through and I think it’s still kind of kind of implanted in my mind. So, and I think that’s everywhere. I don’t think that’s just cruise ship life. I think that’s our whole industry and it’s starting to shift, which is a beautiful thing. We’re having more, um, real bodies on stage, different people being represented more of different people being represented.
[00:08:53] And I found that. Once I started to accept who I was and what I had to offer aside from maybe what I looked like,
um, kind of my talent and the shows and what I could bring to the stage. I realized that I had more and more people coming up to me after shows, especially young women. Who were about to go into college for theater or, or even just people who just loved coming on cruise ships and watching the shows.
[00:09:17] I would have more and more women who, and every year sheep and size coming up and saying it was just so nice to see someone that looks like me up on that stage. It looks so nice to see someone who might not look like someone that’s in a magazine. Wear short shorts and own it
and, and look so confident and feel so confident.
[00:09:38] And it just adds to everything that I couldn’t keep my eyes off you on that stage. And sometimes I think, Oh, don’t brag about yourself only, but I think that’s also a moment of
like, yeah, like I was face to face with something that said you could lose your job because of the size of, of your butt. But, um, then.
[00:09:54] Me owning it and be like,
well, this is who I am. This is what I have. I can’t change what my body is. It is. And once I owned it, I felt I was stepping into my power more and the audience felt it and they loved it. And you know, it just kind of goes to show that everybody’s different and everybody has something different to offer.
you know, if we accept those differences as beauty, you’re going to get such a more interesting thing to see on stage and enjoy and have the audience connect with.
[00:10:21]Dane Reis: [00:10:21] for sure. Thank you for saying all of that. There’s so much gold in there
[00:10:27] Emily Martinez: [00:10:27] Thank you. It’s, it’s hard to talk about. I’m even like, kind of
kind of feeling that trembling feeling. Cause it’s just tough to talk about, but it needs to be, you know, it’s, it’s hard out
[00:10:34] Dane Reis: [00:10:34] yeah. These things need to be said. Yeah, absolutely. Thank you for doing that. And you’re right. The comparison game is insane. And we have to be really careful with that. And I’m so glad that you brought up not only the comparison, but also the idea that we’re always looking for more. Right.
Right. And to really focus on that idea, that it’s really about the journey.
[00:11:00] It’s not just the resume line or the peaks in your career. It’s. All the work, getting to those things because there’s peaks and those resume lines happen and as great as they are. And as much as we celebrate them, they happen and then that’s it. And then it’s well, what next?
[00:11:16] You said you’ve spoken with loads of Broadway actors. Cause it loads your friends are I through this podcast, of course I’ve spoken with loads of Broadway actors and it is a consistent thing that keeps coming up. People are always searching for the next thing . And it’s not say that they’re floundering around searching.
[00:11:32] It’s they’re looking for growth, what the next big experience of life and that’s how it is. And I love that you brought that up because. those two things have been coming up fairly frequently throughout this interview process on the podcast. And I love that because we’re seeing that through this podcast, that these things are fundamentals of what creates a successful career, the mindset that you need to have.
[00:11:59] And I’m so glad that this has become a resource and blown my mind and what it’s become. That it really truly is a fantastic resource for anyone coming into this industry. Anyone listening that we’re hearing the same things again and
again and again and again, that you need to take those and they’re so pertinent to applying to your own career.
[00:12:19] So thank you for sharing
[00:12:20] Emily Martinez: [00:12:20] Yeah. And I feel like,
like, I mean, I don’t know when I was in college, it didn’t seem like, and I’m in my thirties now. So it was quite a while in terms of. I don’t know, maybe it wasn’t that long ago that I was in college, but it felt, feels like there’s been such a growth in just talking about mindset and talking about wellness and, and
[00:12:37] Dane Reis: [00:12:37] A hundred percent.
[00:12:38]Emily Martinez: [00:12:38]
you know, just, um, self presser virulence and, and kind of holding onto like your own magic and not letting it go that wasn’t really talked about a lot, even like 10 years ago, we just kind of were taught, go to the auditions, you know?
You know, bang the pavement, but it wasn’t there, wasn’t a lot of talk about how do you keep your soul happy? Um, and I mean, I CA I learned not the hard way of just going to every audition. Yeah. I first got out of college or once I first, you know, I had to, I was really lucky that app right after college.
[00:13:04] Oh, sorry. My road next to me has
like a thousand sirens and people that love to drive really loud. So if that comes through, I’m very sorry, audience. It’s very annoying. Um, I don’t even have the excuse that it’s like the streets of Manhattan. No, it’s just New Jersey being loud. Um,
[00:13:17] Dane Reis: [00:13:17] Yeah,
[00:13:18] Emily Martinez: [00:13:18]
[00:13:18] Dane Reis: [00:13:18]
[00:13:18]Emily Martinez: [00:13:18] I, uh, I was lucky enough to book two great, like national tours after college, I’d booked with a great theater company and I had a great time, but when I got into New York, Wow.
[00:13:29] It just like it drained me because I
kind of didn’t learn about holding on to what makes you special and, and really kind of trying to figure that out before going out there. And. You know, I just, I burnt out like burnout is also a huge thing in our industry. That’s a hard thing to work through because I think that goes back to comparison.
[00:13:45] Like you want to do the same thing or even more the other people are doing. And sometimes it’s about survival. Like you’re in a show
you’re, you’re enjoying the show, but you feel like you can’t truly enjoy the show. Cause you’re thinking about, well, how am I going to get my next paycheck? Once the show is done, you know, how do I pay my bills?
[00:14:00] How do I pay my rent?
You know, it’s an In a way in a strange way. I think a lot of actors were mentally a little prepared when COVID hit. It was kind of like, we’re kind of already in that mindset of, of trying to hunters and gatherers of trying to find what’s next for our own survival. I mean, now it’s even worse than it was before, but you know, but you know, I think mentally we’re all kind of like, okay, like we’re kind of kind of used to this.
[00:14:22] Hopefully it won’t last long.
Well, , uh, but yeah, it’s, it’s tough out there.
[00:14:25]Dane Reis: [00:14:25] Yeah, a hundred percent. The mental health aspect of this industry is 100% something that is a new ish development. And it’s so good that it finally is something that we talk about.
[00:14:38] Emily Martinez: [00:14:38] Yeah.
[00:14:39] Dane Reis: [00:14:39] It’s so important.
[00:14:40] Emily Martinez: [00:14:40] And
it’s, it’s nice to be able to say outwardly, I don’t feel great today. And other people go that’s okay. You don’t have to be at a hundred percent every single day because perfectionism is just not real it. We can never get to it. Like perfect is something we can never aim to.
[00:14:58] And it’s so exhausting, but it’s such a hard mindset to get out of, especially when. Almost every actor I feel like
is, is, has that ingrained in them from the beginning is to find that perfect process. And its process is messy. Processes is gross. And you know, you find out all the bits and bobs of yourself that you didn’t want to find out in a process.
Like, I mean, sometimes there’s like cute little, like little bows that you find you’re like, Oh, I can just tie those little strings together. Adorable. But most of the time, it’s just a big mess of a knot that you have to figure out.
[00:15:30] Dane Reis: [00:15:30] Yeah. Yeah.
[00:15:32] Emily Martinez: [00:15:32] Yeah. But it’s really cool when you find little moments to untie and you’re like, yeah, I did that.
[00:15:37] All right. Onto the next. So it’s,
um, it can be really empowering when you. Find moments in your process that you can truly celebrate. And I am, that’s something I’m really learning now is to hold onto those moments that are meant for a celebration in some, when you really learn something about yourself, whether it’s in the industry or outside the industry, as just as a human that can contribute to what you can offer as an actor, as an artist.
um, Kind of putting that in your back pocket and keeping up, keeping it with you rather than just being like, Oh, that was lovely. Like, no, hold on to that. You’re allowed to be proud of yourself. You’re allowed to, um, step into your power. You’re allowed to hold tight because when you are in a time that’s really tough and dark and empty feeling and you’re.
You know, only able to find value through your work. You can kind of reach back in your pocket and go, Oh no, I had this great moment. And that’s where my value is. That’s where my worth is. Is it easy to do that? No. But when you get those moments, it’s really, really satisfying.
[00:16:38]Dane Reis: [00:16:38] Yeah, absolutely agree. Thank you for all of that. And let’s move on to a time that I like to call your spotlight moment. That one moment in time you realized, yes, I am going to be an entertainer for a living or maybe it was, yes. This is what I need to be doing. Has an entertainer tell us about that.
[00:17:05]Emily Martinez: [00:17:05]
I I remember when I was really young my mom and I would have these, these days, these, these Wednesday nights, when we would go out, it was like always our date night. And it it’s funny cause it started with sports. And then I was like, I’m not about this, this dieting life anymore. I don’t like this anymore.
[00:17:19] Let’s just go to the mall. So we would go to the mall and just spend time. Yeah, we would shop, but we would spend time together, always get like burger King and then just. Just kind of bond. And a lot of the times I remember driving back home and listening to Celine Dion and Barbara Streisand and their one song.
[00:17:38] Oh my gosh. But I can’t remember what the song is called, but they have this amazingly dramatic duet that my mom and I would always sing to each other. And
like, I’d always sing Celine and she’d always sing Babs and then we’d switch it up sometimes. And. And there, and I would always just kind of catch her, looking at me when, in moments where I’ve maybe like, as like a 12 year old belt, whatever a belt was back then.
[00:17:57] And for me, and she would just
kind of look at me and go, this you’re meant to do this. Like, you’re you feel it? And I’d be like, yeah, I feel it. And I specifically remember this one time wicked had just come out and listening to the CD in the car and define gravity it come on. And I was. I was, it was the first time ever that I think I was kind of finding that my, um, my mix and my hide belt.
[00:18:24] And I just felt like I’d never really sang in that place before. And I was really young. I was probably only like 13 or 14, whenever that came out. And I just, I have no idea what it actually sounded like, but in my head I was just like, Oh my gosh, in Maya, Dina Menzel. And I sang it in the car and my mom like.
[00:18:43] Had to stop the car and was just like, do you even know what you just did?
Like, I’ve never heard you sing like that before. Cause it only been like church music and stuff like that, or like, you know, Disney songs and, and I was just like, that felt really cool. I want to do that all the time. And it just kind of felt like from that moment, we both felt like there’s, there’s something.
[00:19:04] There’s something else there that let’s try to explore. And my mom’s always,
you know, ever since I was young and said, I want to be up and ene on stage and my mom’s always been there to be like, you can do that. And so with her and my back corner there, and with the support system that I have now with friends and especially my husband, it’s, it’s been just like at any time, I doubt myself.
[00:19:28] I feel like no. This is what I meant to do, how I meant to do it. I don’t know, but this, I need to entertain in some way, because I know that I give something like that’s my way of giving is through performance. I feel like I give something to the audience members, even if it’s just for a moment of escapism.
[00:19:47] And that’s what makes me feel like I’m, that’s my part. That’s my kind of, that’s my ingredient to the recipe. And,
[00:19:55]Dane Reis: [00:19:55] Yes. I love that image. You’re your ingredient to the recipe. , really good story. And let’s piggyback on that real quick and talk about your number one, booked it moment. Walk us through that day, the auditions and call backs. If they happened to be a part of it, what was going on in your life? And what about that moment?
[00:20:18] Makes it your favorite book moment.
[00:20:22] Emily Martinez: [00:20:22] Aye. So cruise ships was a big one for me. When I first booked my first cruise, I was going through a really tough time.
Um, my husband, who was then my boyfriend was out on a national tour and we had had a very long distance. Type of relationship for a while. He had done cruise ships before and , um, left the company and then sorry to do these tours, but we were still always a part.
[00:20:45] And I was in New York. I was pounding the pavement. I wasn’t getting any call backs. So I was just getting really drained.
Uh, it just felt like a dark time for me mentally. It was just tough. I was working like three different jobs, you know, you know, the whole catering. An office job, which I actually liked. I loved the people I worked with.
[00:21:01] So I didn’t know. And I could even, I was editing my YouTube videos right. As I was at that job, which was really nice. I
kind of didn’t take enough advantage of that. They were like, yeah, we don’t care. Just answer the phones and make sure you don’t miss a client. And I was like, great. Um, and then I started actually picking up another freelance job.
[00:21:17] So I was like working three jobs and I was just drained. And I was just like, this is what we have to do.
Like, this is what, you know, the industry says like this, we have to do. So I felt like I was following the rules and I was at this editing job and I got a call from my husband and he was just like, Emily, we just booked a cruise ship together.
[00:21:35] And I was like,
what, what? Cause I had auditioned for, I was, so I booked with carnival cruise line and I had auditioned for them. And in like the month of April and I hadn’t gotten the, we hadn’t had this conversation, gave an I, um, hadn’t talked about. Him wanting to come back to cruise ships so that we could try to get a contract together, um, till like the summertime.
[00:21:55] And then he,
you know, he kind of emailed and said, Hey, I know Emily audition and that she’s in your system, but I want to come back to, is there any way that both of us can come back together and kind of, since I auditioned and kind of revamped their knowledge of who gave was because he had left, they were like, yeah, let’s get you two together.
[00:22:13] And. I actually didn’t even get the call. I was thinking about that today. I was like, I didn’t even get the call. He got the call and every other contract, after that, he got the call and I was just told I got it too. And I was like, Oh, okay. I guess I’m going to Australia, this contract. Um,
Um, so it was, it was, it was really, it was so necessary.
Um, very loud car. It was so necessary. Um, Because I needed a win. I wasn’t getting any call backs. And I really felt like, is this even for me, like, I don’t know if I can do this anymore. And I, it was just like the universe or God going, Hey, knock back, knock. Cool. Your debts. You’re you’re going to do something.
[00:22:53] And cruise ships. I was, I do cruise ships for four years and I. Learn how to sing rock. I learned how to sing pop. I learned how to sing everything that any voice teacher had ever told me. I couldn’t sing.
And, and I got really good and I was super proud of like vocally, where I was after every contract. I was always just a little bit better.
And, and I felt like it was my first real. Big introduction into what being a professional artist was. And, um, I got a couple of great moments after that. Um, when I booked starry starry out of the workshop and the concert at 54 below, that was really great. That was actually kind of a synchronistic moment to where I sent in something to backstage didn’t hear anything.
[00:23:33] And then I knew a friend had worked on a different variation of the show and I was like, Hey, can you put in a good word for me? And he’s
like, yeah, I’ll do whatever I can. I heard nothing for months. And then out of nowhere, I got this email saying, Hey, um, someone dropped out and we need someone. Will, would you do this?
[00:23:48] Just like this minor role? And I was like, heck yeah, I’ll do anything for 54 below. And this musical, I don’t know if you’ve listened to story, but yeah, it is so incredible. I think they actually are up for a Grammy nod. Like
Like that’s how great it is. It’s just soaring music and it’s beautiful. And I was like, I will be involved in any way, shape and form.
[00:24:08] Anything I can do I’m there. And then a couple of days later after I got that call and I was like going over the music and like just asking them little questions here and there, they were like, actually,
um, we had a, we kind of came up to another snafu and we, we need, um, we need a new Joe, uh, the character Joe.
[00:24:24] And I was like, Oh, you do. And they’re like, could you do it? I was like,
well, when is the performance again? They’re like in two weeks. And so I had to learn all this music
[00:24:35] Dane Reis: [00:24:35] Oh,
[00:24:35] Emily Martinez: [00:24:35] and if you’ve heard story it’s beautiful. And
it sounds, it sounds so beautiful that it sounds easy, but once you start singing it, you’re like, Oh, this is really, really difficult music to sing.
Um, and that’s why it’s so good. And so I, that was a moment where I was just like, Yeah. Oh yeah. I will jump up to the challenge. I will, I will do this because this feels like a moment that I can’t let go of and then it’s going to be special. And it just, it felt pretty magical and everything kind of leading up to it. Felt right. And it felt at home. And I just felt really like lucky and blessed to just be part of their process. Cause I think that show is it’s not done yet. You know, I, I, it’s just so good that it can’t be done yet. So I think it was just really cool to be part of it. And, uh, I don’t know, that felt, it felt pretty cool to be asked really last minute, if I could take on the job and they didn’t know me at all, and they were like, can you do it?
[00:25:26] And I was like, yeah,
if, if you’ve got faith in
[00:25:28] Dane Reis: [00:25:28] Oh, yes.
[00:25:29] Emily Martinez: [00:25:29] it. So that felt, it felt good to be able to
kind of own that and, and do my best. And I think it went really well and it happened pretty much right before shutdown. I was in February and that was really the last performance thing I’ve done.
[00:25:44]Dane Reis: [00:25:44] such good stories, both of those experiences. And I want to pull out from both of those, the importance of relationships. And networking in this industry. your relationships are the key to a successful career in this industry.
[00:26:04]It’s all about working with people that you know, who do good work
[00:26:10] Emily Martinez: [00:26:10] And being
[00:26:10] kind is a big part of it.
[00:26:12] Dane Reis: [00:26:12] Yes. Yes. Yes, you have to have a lot of integrity. You have to be where you’re, where you say you’re going to be when you’re going to be there and you have to be prepared and you gotta be nice
[00:26:23] Emily Martinez: [00:26:23] And
there’s, there’s, there’s also a difference between being kind and nice and like letting yourself get. Stepped on. And I think that’s, that’s a hard boundary to find. I think a lot of us, Our struggle with finding our boundaries. I know I do, of being like, yeah, I’ll get that self-tape to you in five minutes.
No, no, no, no. Calm down. Like you can, you can breathe. You won’t knock at the job because you decided to like, eat your lunch. So, or maybe you will, but are those people you really want to work with? You know, I’m learning that more with age is that you can be a little pickier and, and you can take care of yourself.
[00:26:54]And you don’t have to bend over backwards for everything, but there are things that are really worth bending backwards over for.
[00:27:00]Dane Reis: [00:27:00] Yeah, well
well said, and then real quickly on ships, my wife and I. Ended up doing a well, we met on one cruise ship, but then we ended up doing a couple more contracts simply because it was logistically easy because she was from Australia, I’m from America. And how else are we going to spend time and work together?
[00:27:22] That’s really the only situation. And,
uh, we had a very similar situation where we submitted our stuff together and, uh, carnival cruise line said, yeah, we’ll work with your situation. And I was production singer. She was one of the dancers and. That was all we really wanted and we got to be together and see the world together.
[00:27:38] It was
[00:27:39] Emily Martinez: [00:27:39] It’s such a great way for, it can be a make or break for a lot of couples, for sure. But it’s a great way to really do what you love with the person you love the most. And it’s a crazy bizarre you could have an entire other podcast, man. Like I’ve just about cruise ship life. Maybe we’ll start one together.
[00:27:59] Oh my gosh. The four of us we’ll do a couples,
uh, a podcast on it, but yeah, it’s. It’s a really special time. It’s like, kind of in its own time, warp of cruise ship life it’s
[00:28:11]Dane Reis: [00:28:11]
[00:28:12] Emily Martinez: [00:28:12] yeah. You feel like, you know everything about the microcosm of your ship, but the moment someone starts singing a song that’s like current on the radio.
[00:28:20] You’re like, that’s a different language. That’s not real.
[00:28:22] Dane Reis: [00:28:22] Yeah,
[00:28:23] Emily Martinez: [00:28:23] That’s not real. What does that song.
[00:28:25]Dane Reis: [00:28:25] honestly. And what I really love about cruise ships and
I I’m sure you’d agree is that I think that they are one of the best markets, the best place for you to perform in because you get so much from cruise ships and some people still give them a bad rap. And I can’t really wrap my head around that.
[00:28:44]you get to travel, which is great. And it’s always to a beautiful places. Cause cruise ships just don’t go to bad places. You get paid well, or you, how about this? You get to keep the vast majority of your
[00:28:54] money, which is amazing. Yeah.
Um, and then the sheer number of reps on stage and opportunity to practice your craft and hone it in so many things, different styles.
What other, what other platforms gives you that kind of real world opportunity to train and get
[00:29:12] Emily Martinez: [00:29:12] Oh,
[00:29:13] it’s insane. The amount of strength and endurance vocally, physically, mentally. That I’ve had on stage ever in my life.
Um, and the fact that you just said, like you’re switching between genres of each night is usually a different genre of show you’re singing
[00:29:30] and people think that might be easy, but that’s actually really difficult because that’s different parts of
your, your throat.
[00:29:35] You’re engaging different parts of your muscles, different parts of your voice, your head, voice, your belt, your rock scream,
like is not easy at all. And. it’s for a lot of people and it’s not for a lot of people, you know, you, you realize on your first contract of the cruise ship life, if it’s for you or not, sometimes you, you learn that quickly in the first month.
I mean, I know I’m sure you do too. Like I know lifers that have been with it and are still with it. And when the cruise ship industry comes back, they are going to be with it until the end of time. And I give them a lot of props because yeah, a lot of international couples, like that’s just to be able to perform with your partner at all is almost impossible to find.
[00:30:14] So to be able to do that, see the entire world,
um, Do what you love to do and not have to pay for food and board, despite how bad the food and board might be. Sometimes no windows. You feel like you’re in a cage. Uh, but you know, . There’s a lot of good that comes out of cruise ship life.
Um, and now that I’ve been out of it for over a year now, my husband and I we’re both about or are able to see like, like, Oh yeah, Bali. That was cool. So there’s things where I’m just like, Oh, I would’ve never been able to do that before. Like when Y
[00:30:48] Dane Reis: [00:30:48] exactly. I think about
[00:30:49] Emily Martinez: [00:30:49] when would I have ever gone to Singapore, if not for a dry dock situation where the whole ship is getting renovated, like it’s just little and you
kind of take that for granted because that’s just the norm on a cruise ship.
[00:31:00] You’re like, Oh yeah, Vietnam today. And you’re like, what? That’s not normal. Like you should be, come on, soak it up.
[00:31:07] Dane Reis: [00:31:07] Honestly, that’s how I feel. We went on a, my very first ship. We went through the Chilean fjords, which you can only experience on a ship and
[00:31:18] Emily Martinez: [00:31:18] know, but that sounds absolutely amazing.
[00:31:22]Dane Reis: [00:31:22] yeah. Beautiful glaciers. Just like three days of sailing past islands, basically in glaciers.
[00:31:28] Emily Martinez: [00:31:28] That’s incredible.
[00:31:29]Dane Reis: [00:31:29] Yeah, so good
love ships, love ships. And let’s take a moment to talk about the present.
[00:31:36] What projects are you working on now? What are you looking forward to? And look, it’s a weird time, right? We’ve talked about it a bit where amidst this global pandemic. How do you see the entertainment industry moving forward in the next couple of years?
[00:31:51]Emily Martinez: [00:31:51] I hope that a lot changes in our industry. I really do.
We need, we need more representation. We need more diversity. We need more equity. We need people to feel safe. People of color are BiPAP people to feel safe and valued. In our community. And, you know, we say we’re one big happy family, but there’s a lot of stuff that just is old ways, archaic ways, even just the whole addition process.
Um, That’s just it’s time for a shift. And although this time is really hard for us to not have work and not to be busy and not to be auditioning. It is time that I’m really hoping that higher ups in, in the industry are hearing us when we’re saying we need these changes. Um, just from a personal, from what I kind of experienced on a day to day with, with.
[00:32:41] I almost said cruise ship life with New York life is
the, the non-equity audition route, um, is still very much the cattle calls and standing outside in Manhattan on eighth Avenue in the subzero weather. And, you know, it’s. It’s not necessary. There are so many other ways. And I hope that this time is, is opening up castings.
[00:33:06] I’m sure it is.
Um, I’m hoping it is at least some casting directors I know are taking it in stride and being like, yeah, we’re going to shift things. Um, That there’s just a newer way because we all have really smart brains and we can figure out a newer way to do this audition process that gets people seen.
[00:33:22] I can’t tell you the amount of times that I’ve gone to a non-UK audition, because there is always that chance that you will be seen and I’ve just sat for
hours and hours and hours. And I’m not even there as early as some of these, these men and women. Going to these calls and we just don’t get seen because there’s simply too many of us.
[00:33:39] I do think that they want to see us all. Cause they want the person that comes into the room. They meaning casting. They want the person who’s coming into the room to be
their, their person. And, and there’s just too many of us. And so, you know, the whole audition process, I think worked back when.
[00:33:56]There just weren’t as many, especially women in the industry. Like I bet it worked great in the sixties, but now it’s 2020 and there’s,
we, we love a musical, so there’s so many of us and it just needs to shift. And I, I really hope that it will. Um, for me during this time, I’ve been trying to stay as creative as possible.
Uh, I’ve been putting almost all of that creativity aside from doing crafts because I do a lot crafts. Um, it’s my YouTube channel. And I really do think that in some way that that’s going to be. A big part of my path to whatever my version of success is in our industry. I love my channel. I love the community.
[00:34:38] I’m building she’s small, but mighty.
Um, but three K is still a good handful of, of, for every theater kids that feel like I’m their mama bear and I’m helping them along the way of. Just like, we’ve talked about just the process, just figuring it out. And it being okay when it goes horribly wrong, because we’re still here.
[00:34:59] We’re still breathing. We just got to get back up and try again. If we have the strength to, and,
um, I try to keep that as my focus and trying to create things that I really love. I get into a big bind when I create things just for the sake of creating them. And then I’m like tired and because editing, I’m sure, you know, you know, with podcasts, it takes so much effort to edit anything that you want to be really good.
[00:35:22] So when you’re editing something that you don’t like, it’s painful and you’re like, this sucks. I hate this doing this.
So. So that’s been my main thing. I’ve also been just trying to prep for whenever. The theater world opens back up. So I’m trying to kind of reorganize my book and what, what is that?
[00:35:38] And what do I want that to represent? I’ve made a website. I have, I’m talking to you within my,
um, voiceover booth that I’ve created for myself because my husband and I do some voiceover work. So we’re staying very busy, but, uh, is it the type of busy we want to stay? No, , um, but we’re making it work and.
[00:35:57]Just trying to find joy and any lift one moment, like I’m drinking, it’s probably awful for me, but it tastes good. It’s the chai mix from trader Joe’s and I’m just like, this is delicious and this is what’s giving me joy right now. So I’m going to look forward to drinking that for the rest of this.
Um, and then I’m just.
[00:36:15]I don’t know. I love decorating my home for different seasons is giving me joy. So right now
my, my place is decked out in all things, autumnal and spooky, but then once, probably November. maybe right after the election, I’m going to be like, I need Christmas. We’re going to put in some Christmas stuff just to give me joy.
[00:36:33] So we’re
kind of working off daily of what gives us joy. And that might mean decorating very early for Christmas this year for the holidays. But that is O K by me.
[00:36:43]Dane Reis: [00:36:43] Great. I love your insight on all of that, how you’re handling life and. Yeah, with the audition stuff. I think it will move forward. It has to there’s we’ve seen the digitization of this industry just go full on and I think that’s going to be a big part of it is that whole audition process, because it really benefits everybody.
[00:37:04]So why not move forward? It’s the best time to do it and put the systems in place that make it efficient and
[00:37:11] Emily Martinez: [00:37:11] absolutely efficiency.
[00:37:12] That’s what we need.
[00:37:13]Dane Reis: [00:37:13] exactly. And it is time to move on to one of my favorite sections in the interview. I call it the grease lightning round. I am going to ask you a handful of questions. I want you to answer them as quickly and concisely as possible one after another.
[00:37:30] Are you ready?
[00:37:32] Emily Martinez: [00:37:32] Yes.
[00:37:34] Dane Reis: [00:37:34] All right. First question. Yup. What was the one thing holding you back from committing to a career as an entertainer?
[00:37:42] Emily Martinez: [00:37:42] myself, my mindset.
[00:37:44]But we’re working
But we’re working through
[00:37:45] Dane Reis: [00:37:45] Yes. Second question. What is the best piece of advice you have ever received?
[00:37:51] Emily Martinez: [00:37:51] to own my own power because when I do,
I do, I do really great things.
[00:37:55]Dane Reis: [00:37:55] Third question. What is something that is working for you right now? Or if you’d like to go pre COVID, what was working for you before our industry went on? Pause.
[00:38:06]Emily Martinez: [00:38:06] before the industry went on pause, I was really getting into the groove of auditioning and finding joy in auditioning
and, and doing the right type of work to make me feel super prepared. So I’m, I’m excited to get back into that and, and enjoy the process. That is a scary audition.
[00:38:24]Dane Reis: [00:38:24] Yes. And the fourth question, what is your best resource? Whether that is a book, a movie, a YouTube video, maybe a podcast or piece of technology you found is helping your career right now.
[00:38:38] Emily Martinez: [00:38:38] okay.
Well, I’m a little biased. Um, I mean, your podcast is amazing. So this is a great resource, just podcasts in general. Uh, they’re free. They’ve got a lot of information, whether it’s for. Our industry or things that just really maybe joy and, and spike your interest in different hobbies. I love podcasts.
[00:38:54] I’m all about podcasts. I rave about them.
Um, my channel, my channel is a great resource. Um, but for that, if you want to make your own, if you wanna make your own videos, I think I movie is a great place to start. Um, a ring light. It’s a great piece of equipment. You can get them super cheap in a lot of different places on Amazon, or you can really invest in a big one.
Um, and meditation apps. So I use a meditation app that’s called insight timer, and I love it
[00:39:21] Dane Reis: [00:39:21] I love insight
[00:39:22] Emily Martinez: [00:39:22] so good. And,
uh, Spotify, like you can, you can listen to so many musicals on Spotify and I’m like, how did I only just start using Spotify? So yes.
[00:39:32] Dane Reis: [00:39:32] Brilliant. And the fifth question, if you had to start your career from scratch, but you still had all the knowledge and experience you’ve collected from your career in this industry, what would you do or not do? Would you do anything differently or would you keep it the same?
[00:39:49]Emily Martinez: [00:39:49] I think I would change a couple of things. I, number one, I totally would’ve started my YouTube channel earlier. I was blogging in college. I don’t know why. I just didn’t think, I didn’t know. It was a thing to do anything with video creation then, so I totally would have started then. It’s like the one thing I really kicked myself about, I would dance earlier and more often in life and take more dance classes and.
Mmm. , I would take more risks. I wouldn’t play it’s as safe as I think I played it when I was younger. So maybe who knows, maybe I’d be in a different place now, but I think I’d have more mindset and more confidence if I did a couple of those things earlier.
[00:40:28]Dane Reis: [00:40:28] Great. And the last question, what is the golden nugget knowledge drop you’ve learned from your successful career in the industry? You’d like to leave with our listeners.
[00:40:39]Emily Martinez: [00:40:39] Value and worth should come from you,
like come from your own heart first and foremost, that your worth and your value aren’t indicative of what you book or what you don’t book that just showing up is really important. But show up for yourself because that’s, that’s where at the end of the day, at the end of it all, that’s who you’re stuck with.
So, um, you define who you are, not what you do, and it looks different on everyone and that’s cool.
[00:41:10]Dane Reis: [00:41:10] Brilliant. That is such good advice. Thank you.
[00:41:16] And to wrap up this interview, Emily, it is time to give yourself a plug. Where can we find you? How do our listeners connect with you? Is there anything you want to promote?
[00:41:29]Emily Martinez: [00:41:29]
Well, my YouTube channel is probably the biggest thing I’d love to promote. So you can look me up on YouTube. You can just type in Emily Martinez, musical theater, and I should pop up. There are a couple of, um, couple of Emily Martinez is out there, but I am one of them. So you will see my face or you can look up youtube.com/ Emily Martinez entertainer.
[00:41:47] That’s my official channel. Channel handle. And then on Instagram, I’m always there at Emily Martinez official. I do have a tick talk, but I am very, I have
like two, I don’t know what I’m doing. So if I do have ticktack, you’ll see it linked in Instagram. So just go to Instagram and you’ll find most of the stuff there.
[00:42:09]Dane Reis: [00:42:09] Fantastic. And for everyone listening out there, I have put the links to everything. Emily just said into the description of this episodes, you can easily connect with her and be sure to share this podcast with your fellow entertainers, coaches, art and entertainment educators, and anyone. You know,
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[00:43:16] Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
[00:43:18] Emily Martinez: [00:43:18] had a great time. Thank you so much for having me