Caroline Bernier-Dionne


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EP 154: Caroline Bernier-Dionne (autogenrated)

[00:00:00] Dane Reis: [00:00:00] you booked it. Episode 154. Okay, let’s get started. I am excited to introduce my guest today. Caroline Bernay Dion. Caroline, are you ready for this? All right. French Canadian actress and puppet from Montreal, Caroline was touring with Cirque de Solei in axle  an on I show before the pandemic, she was trained in figure skating, giant puppets, manipulation, and classical acting.

[00:00:36] She also developed a clown skills and stooped walking by doing. Professional entertainment for sure. She cannot wait to get back onto her as she’s expected to play Scooby-Doo in the music hall with Scooby doo on tour, her actual project though, the puppet podcast is at its 75th episode and she wants to unite the international puppetry community.

[00:00:59] Caroline. That is a quick intro of who you are and what you’ve done, but why don’t you tell us a little bit more about yourself? Fill in the gaps and a little bit more about what you do as a professional in the entertainment industry. 

[00:01:15]Caroline Bernier-Dionne: [00:01:15] Yeah.

[00:01:15] So I think decentral covered the big. Big chunk of what I’m doing, but I’m, as I’m trained as a classical actress, I have done some publicity, some like TV set commercial, some, some shooting, different different fashion shooting, but I also have done some intervention in entertainments, such in school and help educators with puppetry or with.

[00:01:44] Like entertainment skills, you know how we can communicate our message as performer. So, yeah, I think it’s, it’s quite interesting because I’m, uh, I speak French first. So I just get through the, um, anguish community as I start this puppet podcast. So I, I now like bilingual and, and getting my career going through the English side and playing into us or like all around.

[00:02:13] So it’s really cool to, to. I have all of that hold together and be, as I call a multi-disciplinary artists. So I do puppetry, I do acting, I do clowns, tilts, walking, figure, skating, whatever, like the production needs. I want to do it and play in different feel and play place where he has no theater usually is kind of an interesting ground for me.

[00:02:40]Dane Reis: [00:02:40] yeah, I would say so for all of us. Hey, but very cool. I love that you have such a diverse skillset. Awesome. And let’s dig into this first section here and Caroline, look, I am a sucker for a good quote. What is your favorite quote? You’d like to share with everyone?

[00:02:59]Caroline Bernier-Dionne: [00:02:59] I really like quote some of my figure skating coach, I think at this point, who said to me, We want to see you having fun doing this. when you do figure skating is such a, uh, a sport as you are not actually, but also you have to be theatrical. So you play a character all night. So I was 15 years old when she she’s telling me this, when I was like, you know, you are into your performance and it’s the same with like theater and acting, but.

[00:03:34]I think this quote of like having fun is so important in what we are doing in arts and entertainment, because the audience could feel the passion and the fun off the performer. And this is for me, really, really key.

[00:03:54]Dane Reis: [00:03:54] Yeah, for sure. that’s very cool.

[00:03:56] Caroline Bernier-Dionne: [00:03:56] Yeah. So for me, it’s where I discovered theater. My first stage was dis and the competition. And you know how all of this, this field is really like, not a lot of pressure, like the star system, like the, the, our, our feel. And it’s really interesting to connect the dots in those, because it’s really, it’s really linked and you.

[00:04:19] You add to just getting you out there and performing and smiling. So, so as I was trained in this first, I also apply that kind of background story to my journey in theater.

[00:04:35]Dane Reis: [00:04:35] Yeah, very cool. And let’s go onto this next section here. And Caroline, of course you are an entertainer. I’m an entertainer. And I think that you would agree that this. Industry can be one of the most subjective, brutally, honest and personally emotional industries in existence. And you know, you know, as well as I, that in order to create and have a successful career in this industry, like your having now, it takes a lot of dedication and hard work.

[00:05:05] And while yeah. There’s an outrageous amount of fun and excitement doing what we do. There are also our fair share of obstacles, challenges, and failures. We are going to experience and we’re going to have to move forward through. So tell us, what is one key challenge, obstacle or failure you’ve experienced in your career and how did you come out the other side better because of it.

[00:05:27]Caroline Bernier-Dionne: [00:05:27] I sing for me at some point of my career, I was feeling I was. Like going in circles doing this kind of level of gigs and projects. You know, you, you are like stuck at the level, a comfortable level. Not like that’s nothing happened, but you, you, you are stuck there. And I kind of discover the power of like the social media.

[00:05:54]You know, I think in this field, as you said, it’s really subjective, but the fact that you have to be unique is key. And I think people want to see what is unique in you. Like what you are doing that other don’t do. Like, what is your special skills citing? The world is. Is full of plenty average girl like me, I’m totally the average  girl and, and like the shape is really normal.

[00:06:23] And so I’m, I, it’s funny because I was after theater school, you go into so much deep knowledge of yourself. You introvert a lot like who I am, where I want to go. And it’s funny because all of this training at theater school. Makes you maybe something more in confusion. Like you feel you, you don’t know from, from where you start, like, what was the beginning?

[00:06:46] Like the purpose at the beginning? So it’s funny because at some point I met my boyfriend who was a social media specialist and someone who, who do counseling and social media and it just. Push me a bit. That was kind of the obstacle. Like he said, promotes your, your job, like your gig. Oh, your gig, all your job you do.

[00:07:07] Because I was kind of in this mindset of like, I don’t want people to know that I’m doing too much children’s thing or I’m doing some. Like still stuff one day and the other day I’m doing another totally different project with like filming and camera and stuff. So you just said to me, promote it. People want to see what you are doing.

[00:07:31]It’s, it’s kind of, um, a point of communication. And it’s funny because I was so shy at the beginning. You, when you’re on stage, you are a character. You, you are nuts. Kind of yourself, but to promote you, like for sure in the casting picture and, but to promote on your gate, like you, with the set you, uh, during your, your, your backstage promoting you with the kids, over and over with persistence for me was like intensively. It was kind of a challenge, like, okay, I need to put myself out there and, and promote that. I’m, I’m a willing lady I want to work. And so this is for me, a key moment in my career was. When I decide this and for sure, I get some support because you, you need to too, at the beginning, you don’t know what to put there or what is a good post.

[00:08:28] What is like, you know, the culture is to put on social media, breakfast and cats, but. You know, if you use this tool to, to make art out there to make the power of artists out there in the world, that society will be more happy. And this is my philosophy. Like I think artists are the message are the wave of communicate stuff.

[00:08:53] And if you put your stuff. In their face, people will be more happy and also the job will arrive and the level of your games will, will grow because people will see your inaction and they will want to work with Cuba because you are so optimistic because you work. So for me, that was the challenge to get over the bar.

[00:09:17] Promoting the small gigs, the little cooperative corporate gigs that you do, you know, it’s a dinner and you do a little stand-up or whatever, but you put it there and there every day. And that’s the key. I think it’s kind of fun that advice I could give through others really. And it’s really something, it was successful for me at the end.

[00:09:40]Dane Reis: [00:09:40] . Thank you for bringing that up. That’s really important. And I think a lot of us, especially initially struggle with the idea of self promotion and. Social media has absolutely changed the game completely because before you used to have your agent or your manager, or they would kind of promote you and do the work for you, but the industry is changing so much and especially truly on the West coast in America, Las Vegas, LA, it is full on you.

[00:10:09] Better have your social media together that’s what, when you go to it auditions, when you go to a casting, when you give for a submission, they are asking for your Instagram handles, where are you on social media? So they can check you out all of these producers want to leverage your following so they can help drive popularity and ticket sales and whatever it is for whatever it is they’re trying to promote.

[00:10:32] Even if it’s a corporate event that brand wants to know that they’re going to get their brand. Other people’s social media, it’s free marketing. Right. Right. And on the East coast, it’s certainly a thing. Absolutely. But from my experience and what I’ve seen, that it’s still picking up steam a little bit in the East coast as compared to the West coast, but it’s a hundred percent what it’s going to be for everybody in this industry moving forward.

[00:10:58] And I know a lot of people that. They hate the idea of that, of self promotion, having to use these platforms to say, Hey, this is what I’m doing and being consistent with it. I liked that you mentioned consistency and being persistent, and it’s true. You have, our minds are. So we have such short attention spans now that you have to always be reminding people in a way of what it is that you’re doing.

[00:11:19] Be consistent with your posting and, you know, you know, almost keep like a treasure trove of content. So you don’t blast through it so fast, but. The days that maybe you’re not doing something, you still have something to post. Um, that’s all really

[00:11:32] important stuff. Yeah. And we are our own PR teams. We’re our own marketing agencies now for our own selves.

[00:11:39] And it’s just the way the industry is transitioning and moving. But it’s also a super important part that you kind of have to get on board with.

[00:11:48]Caroline Bernier-Dionne: [00:11:48] Yeah. Yeah. And it’s through you, if you, you don’t like computer and you don’t like, it’s kind of, it’s the challenge, I think, to, to get, uh, enough knowledge to enjoy it and see. It’s in, um, you know, um, you know, in the arts way, because you can be so creative, like to, to make joke and, and also make it so light and funny that it could help others.

[00:12:12] And it’s really, it’s really domestic, I think, too, for, for X, especially in. Pandemic time. People are really crude to their screen. And the, also the casting wants to see, as you, you said they will scroll you down and Googled you. So it’s kind of important to have good, good stuff going on and, and yeah. Be proactive on that.

[00:12:36]Dane Reis: [00:12:36] Yeah, for sure. And let’s move on to a time that I like to call your spotlight moment. That one moment in time you realized, yes, I am going to be an entertainer for a living or maybe it was,  yes. This is what I need to be doing as an entertainer. And tell us about that.

[00:12:58]Caroline Bernier-Dionne: [00:12:58] Yeah, totally. I wasn’t like the spotlight me in the podcast in my podcast. I called it the crush. You know, you, you fall in love with it. An art form or a part of the art. So I was 15 and I was like, questioning myself. You know, you don’t do those kinds of tests when you, you were at school about your aptitude and your quality.

[00:13:24]And, and it’s funny because it wasn’t like saying that I will be an artist. I was like, Oh, I want to do this art thing. So my question like happened, I was on, on a stage doing a rehearsal for, for a high school show. And I said, what I can do all day long, long without getting bored, like without like getting tired.

[00:13:48] What else? Having some, some doubt about whatever or, or I can like, just forget the problems. And it was for sure theater, like to, to be with a script and texts and, and just rehearse and thrive to do the, to say the word different way to change the scene, to do exact words, to do like to play actually. Was the answer to this question.

[00:14:15] So I remember to decide like, no mother, what happened? I would do this because I believe that playing is the key term in this world. We are here to play. So to be in acting and in theater was. The key wording for define myself. And, uh, I want to bring out another spotlight because it was about puppetry. So this art form is kind of not really.

[00:14:45]Maybe it’s known, but it’s, it’s not often into the trend of factor. I remember at my, in my class in theater school, you know, in the professional theater, you are really small group. You are 11 people and you spend three years together and you, you do all of that diction and movement and exercise and all of this.

[00:15:08] And I was like, just kind of the, the girl.  Not doing that. The traditional career I was feeling, I think like the door off doing publicity first, for me, it was like, it will come. So I wouldn’t do some, maybe some set or I was always feeling that I was not like the others, like the original. So I remember to, to sub this job offer, uh, for the we’re searching for someone to do the entertainment around a puppet theater, a giant puppet theater, and I arrive of the Zara and it was outside like a big, just a roof.

[00:15:48] And a lot of the theater is outside. It’s just like the, the crowd is surround by puppets. So I was like there and I was like, what is distinct puppetry? Like, I’m not totally sure. I, I like this. This is it. It’s scary. Is it strange? But we get the group of children. This is this day and I just tried a job for the first day and we just make the kids play with those giant puppet.

[00:16:17]And they were three by every puppet, like two arms and one handling the head. And they were like on the wheels. Driving this puppet. And I was to the music and I put instead put the music the 17 on the desk. It was CD player at the time, but I put the music. And it was, um, wonderful world by Louis Armstrong.

[00:16:42]And I saw the kids like thinking the puppet and like just make the puppet dance together. And they were like now six kids around to puppet and it was peace. You know, for me, it’s kind of, I saw peace on earth, the moment it was so incense as it was sunny. And I just kind of remember it for the spotlight.

[00:17:08] And I see, I saw those kids smiling and this was. The crush. I was like, I want to do giant puppet and make this art form going next level. And by the way, I will go with this art form wherever I, I will have to go because it’s magic. It’s powerful. So yeah, this is the spotlight.

[00:17:32]Dane Reis: [00:17:32] Yeah, I really liked that story. And puppetry is such a unique art form as well. It’s one of those things. That’s very niche. 

[00:17:41]But when you start looking at it, as before I interviewed you, I was having a look on your social media and just kind of went down the puppeteer rabbit hole a little bit.

[00:17:51] And I interviewed, um, another friend of mine, Chris Ignacio on the podcast the other day. And he’s gotten into puppetry a lot in New York city. And it is such a cool art form. It’s one of those things I’ve, I’ve never really known about, you know, It, it is so interesting and I really enjoy it. It’s really cool.

[00:18:09] Caroline Bernier-Dionne: [00:18:09] Yeah. And it’s funny because when you, you open the door, it’s you getting something from it. And it’s such an interesting network of people, really humble, really welcoming, because it’s funny, the, the, um, the star, it’s not you, you are behind or below or on the side. And, and you make people believe through magic and through this character, So it, for me, it was really table periodic as I was  coming out from theater school.

[00:18:38] And you get those challenge at school or with your career. And it’s really confronting to do a theater school. I don’t know if it’s the same for everyone, but for me it was a challenge because it’s a lot of work. And, and after that, you, you are kind of a bit. I’m confused about where your career will go, but this was the best to wrap you.

[00:19:02] The thing I could do with art too, to help me to just be more objective about a non check about the body, about, you know, it’s this puppet, it’s the object theater. It’s, it’s the thing who move and you put the emotion and the drive and the intention into the object. And it’s really. It’s it’s kind of interesting when you start doing it.

[00:19:24] You’re just like, okay. People believe it. And it’s really, um, yeah, a funny, funny 

[00:19:28] Dane Reis: [00:19:28] funny day. Yeah, for sure. And I want to piggyback on that question real quick and talk about your number one, booked it moment. Walk us through that day, the auditions and callbacks. If they happen to be a part of it, what was going on in your life? And what about that moment? Makes it your favorite?

[00:19:49] Booked it moment,

[00:19:51]Caroline Bernier-Dionne: [00:19:51] That’s great. I want to talk about sort of the CLA, because for me it was kind of a goal in that was a kid that, you know, sir was part of our childhood. We said this circus and has maybe because it’s part of it was born in Quebec, Montreal. Yeah. And, and like Canada, I, I really, um, I really want to do that, you know?

[00:20:14]And so, so I audition like in, in the past for them, like, uh, for, for do a replacement on new GEA or to do 19, or they call you, Oh, we after row, we want to open two puppeteers in the show. So, you know, So, you know, you do those kinds of additions. So you are in the database, but. I want to talk about Axel the day where they call me.

[00:20:38]Actually I was doing this kind of challenge with my boyfriend who say you have to post every day and just do it. So I was posting a lot of stuff like that. I have never posts maybe before the fact that I was skating. Like it’s funny people like maybe didn’t know that I, I know really well well how to skate because I was more in acting and doing some, some just origin, airy acting job.

[00:21:05]So I just. Start to boast all my skills. And just suddenly the casting circles, me and the, we were just at, it was winter and we were at home just a Monday, regular, Monday, just working on stuff on the computer and the phone ring. And it was okay. Okay. So they, they want to see you for this new project and it’s a giant puppet, uh, It’s on nice.

[00:21:31] It’s a robot dog. Someone’s like, Oh, okay. Interesting. Okay. Uh, so they, they just want to see you skating Beth or, or maybe you can just do a video with the puppet or just something like that. Actual like, and we really needed fast. So I was like, okay. Okay. So you woke up and you just, okay, what do I just looked at my boyfriend?

[00:21:53] I was like, okay, what we do, what we do. Okay. We need to shoot something. So I said, just, we will go to the ice and just film stuff because it was winter and we have a park really close up the apartment. So we said the morning we will go there and shoot. So we, we wake up really early to have good lights and it was really snowy, like big snow all over.

[00:22:16] And I just perform on ice, just doing some skills and funny, just having fun on eyes. You know, I was promoting the fact that if you people would see that you are having fun, they want to work with you. So we just start with this and I was faking that they have a puppet because we didn’t have a giant robot dog in the

[00:22:40] Dane Reis: [00:22:40] yeah. Imagine that.

[00:22:41] Caroline Bernier-Dionne: [00:22:41] So we just film this, this little form and, uh, yeah, it put it together as is good and video editing and the finish, like the video with the big zoom on the smile on my face. And just the pleasure I have to skate since I’m a kid, because it was my first stage, as I said, And it’s funny because I would just send it.

[00:23:07] And I think that the casting guide didn’t propose many. People for this role because it’s kind of art to find a puppet year skater, actor count person. So I think it just submit this for a role and work on other stuff, but he was okay. Let’s find the robot, dog character from us. So, eh, you sent the video to the crew and they just say, they want, they want you that’s it.

[00:23:36] You have the job. So we will. So I was like, okay, good. So it’s not, sometimes you, you think it’s, the audition is really. The thing, but sometime it’s, you will ask many audition before getting the perfect role for you because you can do some other role or some other project. But if the role is for you it’s will arrive on time.

[00:24:01]Dane Reis: [00:24:01] Yeah, I think that’s really great advice that you said that if the role is for you, it will arrive on time. Really great. And I want to take a moment to talk about the present. What projects are you working on now? What are you looking forward to? And. It’s a weird time, right? We’re amidst this global pandemic.

[00:24:22] How do you see the entertainment industry moving forward in the next couple of years?

[00:24:27]Caroline Bernier-Dionne: [00:24:27] it’s so funny that you ask me this question because I’m working on a totally new project. It’s really original. It’s really engineers. And it’s really a new field where theater. I haven’t been. Ever never

[00:24:43] Dane Reis: [00:24:43] Cool. Cool.

[00:24:45] Caroline Bernier-Dionne: [00:24:45] It’s totally confidential. So I cannot talk about it. So it’s

[00:24:50] so, yeah, but it’s so cool that I’m, I’m part of this new project, because it’s also a con like to combine the skills that, that I get.

[00:25:01] Through working into like, you know, street show and doing corporative and, and you know, when you are able to play with multiple kinds of public and you are a willing person able to improvise and be spontaneous about. Acting so, so yeah, for it, it’s, it’s a great project. I, you will maybe see that growing into the news and social media, uh, pretty soon, but for now I’m, I’m running, I’m taking care of my health and getting in shape for, for this.

[00:25:31] And I also do this puppet podcast, who is this? Amazing adventure of connecting with people from all over the world. And as you said, upending, make time where you’re for the industry. I think I bring a lot of hopes to the field of puppetry by just exchanging about how her job and to dream about, I always ask the question in the podcast.

[00:25:58] Has you said, where do you see the industry where we go. And people are most likely positive it’s like artists are it’s. It’s funny. Has we? We, if you see too much of the news, you will go to the testiness side, but as we are all connected in through social media and we can just. Take the time to add this vacuum of positivity and just like put it together and said, okay, we will have a future.

[00:26:30] We will reinvent our art form. And yeah, we will get through this and just take this time to connect with more people, extend your feel and just also learn because. It’s the time to learn right now, learn about other stuff, connect to your art. Learn about, yeah. Computer, whatever programming, video, editing, learning a lot of things too, to be ready before the next challenge.

[00:27:05]Dane Reis: [00:27:05] , for sure. It’s such a great blessing in disguise, isn’t it? That we have this time to work on ourselves to learn things like you said, it’s very unprecedented that we would have this kind of time to focus on really, whatever it is that we want to. We’re very lucky in a lot of ways.

[00:27:23]Caroline Bernier-Dionne: [00:27:23] Yes. Yes. And it, we have to take it with gratitude because I feel sometime we, we can go in such a like bad anxiety and stress about it. But if you, you just tune yourself through the positivity, as I said, too, Like take a walk to go for a run, to just connect with nature. And we can just like do it with all the rules, but you can be connected with positivity and with people, with those connections, with zoom and live and stuff.

[00:27:57] So you could still perform in a new way. So I I’m in the positive team.

[00:28:04]Dane Reis: [00:28:04] yeah, a hundred percent and it is time to move on to one of my favorite sections in the interview. I call it the grease lightning round. I am going to ask you a handful of questions. I want you to answer them as quickly and concisely as possible one after another. Are you ready?

[00:28:23]Caroline Bernier-Dionne: [00:28:23] Yes, 

[00:28:23] Dane Reis: [00:28:23] Yes. All right. First question.

[00:28:26] What was the one thing holding you back from committing to a career as an entertainer?

[00:28:31]Caroline Bernier-Dionne: [00:28:31] if the pre-made judgment of the family,

[00:28:34]Dane Reis: [00:28:34] Second question. What is the best piece of advice you have ever received?

[00:28:40]Caroline Bernier-Dionne: [00:28:40] I think it’s, you are a different girl. You are not like the other girl from the suburbs. You are an actress and you will change the world. That was one of Mike. Which, uh, for theater school, the, the coaching for the audition who gave me this advice and it said that I would change the world and I, I take it, sir.

[00:29:03]Dane Reis: [00:29:03] Third question. What is something that is working for you right now? Or if you’d like to go pre COVID, what was working for you before our industry went on? Pause

[00:29:14]Caroline Bernier-Dionne: [00:29:14] always reaching for new connection, all the ways. Getting your, um, your feel your, your people who know you, like you need to know people that you don’t know all the time to discover new people all the time.

[00:29:30]Dane Reis: [00:29:30] So glad you said that. Relationships are everything your network in this industry and through life, really, but especially in this industry, connecting with people is how it all really comes together. I think it’s a huge part of what creates a sustainable career in this industry as well.  Great. And the fourth question, what is your best resource?

[00:29:53] Whether that is a book, a movie, maybe a YouTube video podcast or piece of technology that you found is helping your career right now?

[00:30:02]Caroline Bernier-Dionne: [00:30:02] I want to talk about an actor whose name Sasha, Baron Cohen. Who’s doing this Barat thing and I just saw a speech of him. Uh, like a Sasha speech, not to Bora or character speech, but the real guy talking. And I think every , I have to see this speech because it’s really what art is doing and it’s to change the world and to make people like, think about.

[00:30:34]Their behavior, but this speech is so key about, um, thinking of like, what is tolerance? What is intolerance? And yeah, I really, I, as I’m working on a clown project right now, I’m really, uh, into this. Kind of stuff. Where is the theater? What is the, the non theater? What is, where is the joke? Where is the fake?

[00:30:55] Where, and yeah, so I could really recommend people to watch this, uh, keynote speech he has done. And it’s on YouTube.

[00:31:04]Dane Reis: [00:31:04] Oh, very cool. I will absolutely have to look that up after this. Thank you for that. And. the fifth question, if you had to start your career from scratch, but you still had all the knowledge and experience you’ve collected from your career in this industry, what would you do or not do? Would you do anything differently or would you keep it the same?

[00:31:26]Caroline Bernier-Dionne: [00:31:26] I would say to work on, I wouldn’t, I wouldn’t work on my unicity more than trying to be the average girl who could play all the role. I will just focus and narrow on my niche first. And, um, I think really like what’s makes me different instead of like, just be universal and not, not missing opportunity.

[00:31:50]So, and also I, I will. Go in less confusion because you, at some point, forget your goals about why you are doing this career. And for me, as I said earlier, is to change the world, to have an impact and, and wave like the society up to send a wave of, of sanity and positivity with art and, uh, a new vision of the world.

[00:32:15] That’s my goal and my purpose.

[00:32:17]Dane Reis: [00:32:17] Yeah, really like that. And I like how you brought up, you know, you would have not tried to be so universal, but found your niche. And there’s absolutely something to be said, especially in the beginning of your training that you do explore it all, see it all try it all because you also don’t know what, you know, you know, you might think you love dancing, but maybe dancing is.

[00:32:40]Yeah, maybe you love it, but maybe there’s a whole nother aspect of the arts that really is meant for you. Right? Right? So you have to dabble, you have to find it all. But when you find that thing that makes you unique, the thing that you know, that you can bring to the table that no one else can hone in on that

[00:32:55]Caroline Bernier-Dionne: [00:32:55] yeah, to be the best in your niche is like a quote and 19 it’s kind of really important. And I think it’s the kind of, has you said for the, the golden nugget, like the thing that you need to, to apply in your career and if it was from scratch, I would do that more. Instead of, because I never know that I would do a robot dog in a circus show.

[00:33:19] You know, I was, You know, I was, I was trying, going into the classical acting class, but then it’s the unicity who is paying the price and the fun of the career.

[00:33:34]Dane Reis: [00:33:34] there we are. And speaking of golden nuggets, here’s the last question. What is the golden nugget knowledge drop you’ve learned from your successful career in this industry? You’d like to leave with our listeners.

[00:33:47]Caroline Bernier-Dionne: [00:33:47] I think it’s kind of really simple. It’s work on yourself all the time. Don’t introvert too much on yourself and help others. Listen. People help them. And this is key because sometime we are so focused on our little problem and we forget that we need to help the world. So does by helping it’s really to wrap your Dick and it could help you in your career for sure.

[00:34:17]Dane Reis: [00:34:17] for sure. And to wrap up this interview, Caroline, it is time to give yourself a plug. Where can we find you? How do our listeners connect with you? Is there anything you want to promote? 

[00:34:31] Caroline Bernier-Dionne: [00:34:31] I think I want to talk about the puppet podcast. Um, people, you can always reach me on this because it’s all over social media. If you right. Puppet podcast on Google, you will find us at some point. And, uh, yeah, the what I that’s my project that I can talk about right now, but it’s really important to. As if you don’t know tree art, I really, really encourage you to, to just watch it in.

[00:35:01]Um, because I feel it’s, it will influence all theater because it’s, it’s, it’s a new way of seeing life also because it’s really connect to magic. And what is the. The objectivity of the puppet here and what is this kind of job? So, yeah, have a look on the, on the Spotify podcast and yeah. Feel free to write to me through social media, Facebook I’m on all, uh, Instagram, LinkedIn, uh, yeah, Twitter, all of those is kind of, uh, the way of reaching.

[00:35:33] Reaching me and yeah, feel free if you need, because I started this page Korean, I need to talk about that. And we started this Patrion account with the podcast to help artists to promote themselves online and to get over their fear or their consideration, what they think about like above. Self promotions.

[00:35:57] So we do those kind of a coaching session with artists to help puppet, cheers, but we are also open to other feel other kind of artists. So if people are curious about. This kind of energy I have and how I can just help them to, to just get over the bar year and the challenge of self promotion. I would really happy.

[00:36:22] And as I’m working in team with my boyfriend, who is a social media consultant, marketing specialist is really into branding and stuff. We are kind of good team to help on self-promotion and yeah, I’ll. Aren’t formed. If it’s not talk at three, we, we are not just in the field. We can open up and yeah. Just connect with more people and help more people.

[00:36:46] So that’s, that’s the flag.

[00:36:48]Dane Reis: [00:36:48] beautiful. And for everyone listening out there, I have put the links to everything. Caroline just said , into the description of this episode. So you can easily connect with her and check out her podcast and be sure to share this podcast with your fellow entertainers, coaches, teachers, educators, and anyone, you know, you know, that is.

[00:37:09]aspiring to create a career in this industry, you booked it is the number one resource of expertise on how to actually create a successful entertainment career.  Caroline, thank you so much for being here has been such a pleasure to connect with you and get a perspective of this industry that I have never really looked at before.

[00:37:30] It’s been very enlightening. Thank you.

[00:37:32]Caroline Bernier-Dionne: [00:37:32] Thank you for, to you for all of this like great question and energy. I think it’s, it’s sell purse. So think about what we are doing also to get interviewed. So thank you.