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EP 156: Teresa Espinosa

Dane Reis: [00:00:00] you booked it episode 156. Okay. Or let’s get started. I am excited to introduce my guest today. Theresa Espanoza. Are you ready for this Teresa?

[00:00:15]Teresa Espinosa: [00:00:15] Yes.

[00:00:16] Hi,

[00:00:17]Dane Reis: [00:00:17] All right. Teresa is a proud native of Dallas, Texas. After graduating from Cal arts. She has been working professionally as a dancer and choreographer for 24 years.

[00:00:28] Theresa who early on in her career at the age of only 24 was nominated. For an Emmy award for contributing choreography to Janet Jackson’s velvet rope, HBO special and traveled the world as one of her dancers. Theresa’s extensive list of accomplishments includes working with renowned artists of our time, such as Prince Brittany Spears, Missy Elliott, Mariah Carey pink, Rihanna limp Bizkit usher.

[00:00:54] Hannah Montana slash Miley Cyrus. Justin Bieber, Selena Gomez and Hailee Steinfeld. Her work as a dancer and choreographer has also appeared  in numerous television shows, award shows, commercials and films. Some of these credits consist of the Oprah Winfrey show. Ellen lip sync battle, the X factor America’s best dance crew.

[00:01:16] Good morning America. Late night with Jimmy Fallon billboard awards, American music awards, old Navy Nike, you got served magic, Mike and magic. Mike double XL. Her latest work is as an associate director slash choreographer for magic Mike live and is currently showing in Las Vegas, London, Berlin, and Australia.

[00:01:34] And as of 2017 in November, Theresa had the great honor of owning the legendary Debbie Reynolds dance studio currently called legacy studios, Theresa. That is a. Bonkers bio of who you are and what you’ve done, but why don’t you tell us a little bit more about yourself, filling the gaps and a little bit more about what you do as a professional in the entertainment industry.

[00:02:04]Teresa Espinosa: [00:02:04] Yeah. Wow. Thank you so much. I haven’t had somebody tell me my own bio and I put myself on mute because I’m laughing at myself. Um, It’s been a roller coaster of a ride over the last 24 years, coming from Dallas, Texas being mesmerized by pop culture with Michael Jackson, Janet, Janet Jackson, and Madonna and Prince.

[00:02:32] I’m an eighties baby. And I grew up in the era of

[00:02:36] Dane Reis: [00:02:36] of

[00:02:36] Teresa Espinosa: [00:02:36] the first music videos on MTV and I was inspired by all the dance. Back then through beat it and, and beat street, anything, flash dance, all of those dance movies. I was just in awe of, and I had no idea growing up back then that I was going to be a professional dancer and choreographer. And I look back now and I’m like, wow, it’s, it’s been a rollercoaster up and down. I mean, you know, you read all that stuff, but what it doesn’t say is all the heartache in between. 

[00:03:12]Dane Reis: [00:03:12] absolutely. Well, let’s get into this first section here and Theresa, look, I am a sucker for a good quote. What is your favorite quote you’d like to share with everyone?

[00:03:24]Teresa Espinosa: [00:03:24] One of my favorite quotes is from Martha Graham and I’m probably going to botch it up just a bit. But the idea is that she says great dancers. Aren’t great because of their technique. They’re great because of their passion

[00:03:41]Dane Reis: [00:03:41] Oh, that’s so true.

[00:03:43]Teresa Espinosa: [00:03:43] yeah,

[00:03:44] I just, I love that. 

[00:03:45]Dane Reis: [00:03:45] absolutely. And can you maybe expand on that a little bit and how you’ve applied that quote to your career?

[00:03:52]Teresa Espinosa: [00:03:52] Yes, that quote really resonated with me because partly being a Latin person, I am a fiery, like, that’s just part of my essence and adding fire to dance. Really led to me being extremely passionate, passionate, and focused and dedicated. And I really believe that that part of me is why I’ve had longevity, not just success, but longevity in this industry because, you know, we, we say we love something.

[00:04:23] And then when it gets hard, we give up and I went through a lot of. Times where it was really difficult. And I was getting cut from auditions and, and just wondering where do I fit in? Why isn’t it working out? But I stuck through it because that was literally, the only thing I love to do is stamps. That’s it.

[00:04:42] .

[00:04:42] So back to the Martha Graham quote we don’t have, everybody’s a great dancer, but how do you become successful? And her quote, talking about how passionate you are is what really is it’s the, it’s the pushover, you know, into greatness is the passion and. I know that I just had a passion and an obsession for dance my whole career.

[00:05:08] And I think that’s the Testament to why I’ve been able to do so many amazing things, um, and push through those times when it wasn’t, it didn’t feel like it was working out.

[00:05:19]Dane Reis: [00:05:19] you’re right. Technique, look, techniques important, right. right. To a point. But when you get to a certain level, everyone’s got that, everyone’s got that foundation to build off of, into do the thing. Right. And it’s not,  I should say. Whatever that level of foundation is also varies throughout the entire career.

[00:05:37] It doesn’t have to be on Broadway or in music videos. It could be different levels of theater, different, uh, or calibers, if you will, or different markets, whatever that is for you. That’s one you’re in there and that’s your sweet spot of performing. Everyone has that foundation that’s needed for that job, right. right.

[00:05:58]It’s really what you bring to the table. That makes all the difference,

[00:06:03]Teresa Espinosa: [00:06:03] Exactly. It’s rare to me being successful at anything in life. And especially because we’re talking about the entertainment industry, the more I realized, the more that I could tap into my. Personality my individuality and my uniqueness. That’s where I was able to be more effective. I think now peop there’s just so much mediocracy going on because people want to, and I’m going down a little bit of a rabbit hole, but to me being great at something.

[00:06:36] You really have to know who you are, what you want, want to say, what is, what is your expression and put on the blinders and ignore what everybody else is doing and just do you and focus on your voice, your opinion, your creativity, and, and move in that direction. Full force forward.

[00:06:57]Dane Reis: [00:06:57] for sure. And it’s so clearly obvious when you go to not just auditions, but you go to a live performance that you’ve paid for tickets for when you see performers on stage that are really living in that moment, really dancing or really performing with passionate it’s like night and day.

[00:07:17]Teresa Espinosa: [00:07:17] Yeah, watching dance live. Is a totally different experience. Obviously we are now in the age of technology. And so we’re watching a lot of things through our phones and our computers. And there’s still a sense you can get an essence of someone, but watching dance live. There’s nothing like that because it’s an experience.

[00:07:40] Dane Reis: [00:07:40] Yeah, for sure. And let’s get into this next section here. And Teresa, of course you are an entertainer, I’m an entertainer. And I think that you would agree that this industry can be one of the most subjective, brutally, honest, personally, emotional industries in existence. And you know, you know, as well as I, that in order to create and have a successful career in this industry, like you’re having now, it takes a lot.

[00:08:09] Of dedication and hard work. And while, yeah, there’s an outrageous amount of fun and excitement doing what we do. There are also our fair share of obstacles, challenges, and failures. We are going to experience and we’re going to have to move forward through. So tell us, what is one key challenge, obstacle or failure you’ve experienced in your career and how did you come out the other side better because of it.

[00:08:32]Teresa Espinosa: [00:08:32] Thank you for that question, because I think people have an idea of what success is, especially in the entertainment industry. And a lot of it has to do with fame, but I’m going to speak for myself in, in the sense that growing into this career. All I wanted to do was just dance. And if it meant I was on a commercial, if it was a live show, if it was a music video, it didn’t matter.

[00:09:00] I just wanted to dance. And then the cherry on top was that I was getting paid for it. 

[00:09:07] The obstacles are just sometimes things aren’t going to go your way or how you think it should go. I remember I auditioned for this artist’s name, George Clinton, who’s the leader of this funk band. And this is early, early, early on in my career. And I auditioned for him for this award show called the NAACP image awards at the audition I did. So I’m not trying to toot my own horn, but I killed it.

[00:09:40] I literally had everyone in the room, screaming and cheering because I killed. The routine, like people were going nuts. Okay. So the feeling of that, like I stepped into my power and I did the routine, the best that I could and everybody acknowledged it. Here’s the obstacle. I didn’t book the job. So other people book the job and I left the audition going, okay, that’s fine.

[00:10:07]You know, I, I know I did my best. I did great. And the. Reward at the moment was just getting that acknowledgement from everyone else in the room. Regardless, I didn’t get the job a couple of days go by

[00:10:20] Dane Reis: [00:10:20] by

[00:10:20]Teresa Espinosa: [00:10:20] and I get a call from a friend who basically asked me if I was available to do the NAACP image awards, the same award show.

[00:10:29] But now this time it was for prints. so I didn’t even audition for it. I got called directly to participate and Tina Landon was the choreographer. So this was my first time working with 

[00:10:42] Dane Reis: [00:10:42] working with her

[00:10:43]Teresa Espinosa: [00:10:43] And it was a bigger dream that I could ever imagine because I grew up on Prince music and never even thought put two and two together that I could dance for him.

[00:10:55]so my dream of this artist that I grew up on. As a kid, I’m now getting to share the stage with him. And that was an amazing experience, but the obstacle was, you know, getting that rejection and having to deal with that and letting it go only for something better to come along just a few days later.

[00:11:14]So if I had a book that job, I would not have gotten the opportunity to dance with this person that I grew up on, you know? So it worked out better.

[00:11:24] Dane Reis: [00:11:24] better. 

[00:11:26]It’s happened a few times on this podcast when I’ve been interviewing people where they’ll go into an audition, they absolutely slay it. Right. Right.  Or their interpretation was spot on, but it wasn’t quite right for what they were looking for to cast right. Killed the audition. But. they don’t book it, but what ends up happening is it comes full circle because those people in the room, what you did and that energy and what you created also comes back and then they’re booking other things. They’re going, they’re being asked personally to go be seen for other projects and they end up booking those instead, which is so cool about this industry.

[00:12:04] And I think that’s such a great takeaway for everyone listening that you gotta just go in there. And give everything that you have  of yourself and leave it there. That’s that’s the goal is to go and show up and be present and do the work. And then the other things will take care of themselves.

[00:12:22]Teresa Espinosa: [00:12:22] Absolutely. I can even think of another time when I was on the flip side, I was a choreographer. And actually at this point I was an assistant choreographer for Gwen Stefani. I was assisting Showtime for the Harajuku tour. And there was a guy in the audition that I felt was amazing. For whatever reason I connected with him.

[00:12:46] I thought he was one of the best dancers in the room, but Showtime did not pick him. He wasn’t the look or the style of dance that he was looking for. But that moment of that guy, dancer. At that audition just stuck with me as one of the best answers and years go by. I’m now in the position of choreographing, and this is what I’m choreographing for Miley Cyrus.

[00:13:12]And we’re about to go on tour within I think, two weeks. And one of our guide dancers hurts his knee and he literally cannot dance and immediately I needed to replace him. And the guy from years prior at this other audition. Who stuck out in my mind. I said, that’s the guy we need to call. Let’s call him.

[00:13:34] And he showed up within an hour,

[00:13:36] Dane Reis: [00:13:36] hour.

[00:13:37] Teresa Espinosa: [00:13:37] started learning choreography, ended up going on tour with us for the remainder of the tour. Like it, you just can’t predict. You just can’t predict how you affect people, even if you don’t get the job, And that’s just a Testament to, I think really the universe. It just works in magical ways.

[00:13:58] Cause I, I couldn’t tell you why that guy stood out to me years ago, but there was a reason and he was meant to be a part of this other thing years later.

[00:14:08] Dane Reis: [00:14:08] later. That is amazing. And that is such great information and insight for everyone to take away. Rewind, listen to that again. That is, what’s making this podcast so important because it’s stories like that, that, that keep coming up that really show, yes.

[00:14:25] This is a fundamental of what creates a successful career showing up, doing the work Oh, so good. Thank you for sharing both of those stories. Great. And let’s move on to a time that I like to call your spotlight moment. That one moment in time you realized, yes, I am going to be an entertainer for a living or maybe it was, yes.

[00:14:52] This is what I need to be doing as an entertainer. Tell us about that.

[00:14:57]Teresa Espinosa: [00:14:57] Okay. I don’t think I ever had that moment of this is what I’m going to do. It, it evolved into this is my career. I knew that I wanted to dance, but I didn’t know that one at the time, because this is the mid to mid nineties. When I first started, I just wanted to be in a music video. I didn’t know. I could make a career.

[00:15:23] I didn’t know that I could buy a house. I could. You know, fund my fund, my living through dance. I just, you know, I just wanted to be literally, I just wanted to be in a music video. I look back now, you know, 10 years after that I’m going, Oh wow. I have a career. I’m a professional dancer, but the goal was never to be a professional dancer.

[00:15:43] I just wanted to dance. so I never had that moment of this is what I’m going to do. It was just, I want to do that. And it turned into years later going, Oh, I’m a professional dancer. So that, I guess that’s my spotlight moment of, of real realization.

[00:16:05]Dane Reis: [00:16:05] yeah, great. I just took a decade, right. And to reflect and go, Whoa, look what I’ve done. Like that’s neat. How did that happen? Perfect piggy back on that real quick and talk about your number one, booked it moment. Walk us through that day, the auditions and call backs. If they happen to be a part of it, what was going on in your life?

[00:16:30] And what about that moment? Makes it your favorite book? That moment?

[00:16:35]Teresa Espinosa: [00:16:35] I would have to say when I auditioned for Janet Jackson, the velvet rope tour.

[00:16:43]Dane Reis: [00:16:43] Hm.

[00:16:43]Teresa Espinosa: [00:16:43] I knew Tina Landon PRI. Well, I had already, I think at this point I had already worked with her for prints, but there was no guarantee that I was going to work for Janet Jackson. I still had to prove myself and go through the audition process with, I think 300 other ladies think there were 300 guys.

[00:17:02]So it was a three-day process. Yeah, it was a three-day process. Ladies the first day guys, the second day, and the third day was callbacks and I kept getting passed through all the cuts and everything. And at the callback, Janet was there with all of her dancers and I just really felt comfortable, partly cause I kind of kind of knew everybody.

[00:17:25] I was nervous, but I think having worked with Tina already. I just, it all kind of, it just felt natural and I felt really good. yeah. And, uh, after the callback,

[00:17:37] Dane Reis: [00:17:37] back

[00:17:38] Teresa Espinosa: [00:17:38] they started doing promo tour, which I was not a part of. So at the end of all of that, you know, they started doing music videos and, and, uh, little shows here and there.


[00:17:50]I just go, okay, well maybe, you know, it was just good enough that I made it to the end. Like, I can be happy with that. And I let the, I let the job go. I let the idea of dancing for Janet. Go and months go by. And Tina Landon sends me a Christmas card and mind you, she’s my idol, choreography idol. And I’m freaking out that Tina Landon thought about me for Christmas and gave me a Christmas card and I read it and it says I’m paraphrasing, but it says something like Janet and I were wondering if you’d like to be a part of the velvet rope project. And, um, um, yeah, and I’m thinking, Oh my God, I love that song. Velvet rope. It’s my favorite song. And I just keep talking about the song and I’m like, thank you. I’m thinking it’s the music video and a mutual friend. That’s there said, Teresa, you know, you know, she’s talking about the tour, right? And I go, Oh, and I started crying even more because I didn’t even understand that she, when she said project, she meant the tour, the whole thing.

[00:18:51] And so that was my moment of Holy crap

[00:18:56] Dane Reis: [00:18:56] Yeah, that is so good. 

[00:19:00] Teresa Espinosa: [00:19:00] yeah.

[00:19:01]Dane Reis: [00:19:01] And can you talk about being on that project and experiencing that?

[00:19:05]Teresa Espinosa: [00:19:05] yeah. So there was a lot of back and forth after I got that Christmas card, but basically I finally got the official call to come into rehearsals and I had to play catch up because they were already in the rehearsal rehearsal process for the tour. And I’m playing catch-up I’m green as green can be. I’m eager.

[00:19:26]I will do anything. Anybody tells me

[00:19:30] and. Originally, I was just a swing. So they hired me as a swing dancer and I’m there playing the part as Tina so that she could choreograph. She could step outside of the number and watch, and I would be in her spot. And this happened almost all the time because she was in the middle of choreographing the tour.

[00:19:52] She eventually asked me to 

[00:19:54] Dane Reis: [00:19:54] me that 

[00:19:55] Teresa Espinosa: [00:19:55] Uh, she, she asked me to help participate in some of the choreography bits. So I was able to contribute to the actual song velvet rope and do some choreography with her on that. there’s some, there’s some, there’s some sections and throb that I choreographed as well. I choreographed Janet solo in that number and yeah, it was just a crazy experience.

[00:20:18] And originally they were all going to go off on tour and leave me behind. But through the rehearsal process, they decided that they would bring me to the production rehearsals out in Europe. So everything just kept stacking up. It was like, Oh, it’s good enough to go to this part. And then it would just add on.

[00:20:37] And so I thought I was going to be in Europe for about two weeks, two and a half weeks for the production rehearsals while we’re in that process. Janet comes up to me and says, Hey, we want to bring you on tour. So that two week process ended up being three months in Europe.

[00:20:54]And then that three months ended up being the whole tour for 10 months.

[00:20:58] And I would be in the show. I had my own parts in the show, but then I would actually swing throughout the performances. So if somebody got sick and I wasn’t in that number, I would fill in for them. Uh, w whether it was a female or male, I was the swing for the whole tour and it was a crazy wild ride.

[00:21:18]And, uh, I learned a lot.

[00:21:20] Dane Reis: [00:21:20] Yeah. I remember watching the velvet rope tour on HBO,

[00:21:26] uh, uh, 

[00:21:27] yeah, growing up and I was like, this is amazing. Um, That is bonkers. I

[00:21:33] Teresa Espinosa: [00:21:33] Yeah. Yeah, it is.

[00:21:35] Dane Reis: [00:21:35] it’s so cool that it’s I love the whole thing from when you started off, you went to the audition and you said, look, I just felt calm.

[00:21:42] I don’t know if it was because, you know, you know, he would, uh, you had worked with choreographers before, or if it was because you were just focused or whatever it was, but that’s something that’s also come up a lot in here. When people say, look, this is the job that I booked. It’s when I went in there and I felt just calm.

[00:21:58]You know, I went and did my thing and I left and I got it right. Yours is a bit of a, more of a, a roundabout way when you got the Christmas letter, but then I love how it was just like, we want to bring you on, in, on this bit. And then it just kept building and stacking and stacking. And then there at the end, you got nominated for an Emmy.

[00:22:15] You got to be part of the entire production. That’s amazing.

[00:22:18] Teresa Espinosa: [00:22:18] Yeah, and it really set my career up for, it just. I mean, I mean, Janet announced me and people still say my name the way she calls me, you know, in the introductions. And I got to have a solo moment that at the time back in 1997, 98, there weren’t a lot of female restyle dancers. So she gave me my moment to shine and the band and I were in scene.

[00:22:47] And. if you ever happen to watch this part, my face is in terror as I’m walking forward, because I know that it’s being filmed for HBO. And I could imagine that my whole family is back in Dallas, Texas, looking at the screen and yelling at the TV as I’m walking forward. And I’m literally saying to myself, God, please let this be the best freestyle dance I’ve ever done in my entire life.

[00:23:22] I literally praying to God as I’m walking forward and it was magic. It was, you know, I got to represent females in a way that weren’t represented like that at the time. And now, you know, 20 years later, there is a lot of female. Freestyle dancers that are crazy off the chains. Good. And it’s, it’s really cool to see how it’s expanded since then, because prior to myself, the only other real free female dancer that I knew was Tisch who was on the Janet tour previous to velvet rope.

[00:23:57]And, uh, yeah. 

[00:23:59]Dane Reis: [00:23:59] Ah, so good. Thank you for sharing all of that. Love it. And let’s take a moment to talk about the present. What projects are you working on now? What are you looking forward to? And it’s a weird time, right? We are amidst this global pandemic. How do you see the entertainment industry moving forward in the next couple of years?

[00:24:22]Teresa Espinosa: [00:24:22] I think to answer your question, it’s very layered. Uh, Uh, yeah. So right now we do, even during the pandemic, I’m a part of the magic Mike live team, where I was one of the creators. I’m an associate director and choreographer of the live shows, and I’m a part of a team, a choreography team, and all of our shows and productions have shut down since the corn team.

[00:24:51]And we’ve been meeting. Every other week or once a week to see how we can get the shows back up and running right now, we’re actually looking at

[00:25:02]our first show opening back in December in Sydney, Australia, which is really nice. We’re all excited about that. Uh, next year we have, supposedly we have London and Berlin and Las Vegas coming back online next year, but it obviously it’s it’s uh, It just depends on how everything pans out, you know, there’s really no controlling what the governments are going to do.

[00:25:27]Um, so we’re just being very hopeful and positive and just planning as best as we can through all of the, the changing of the wind.

[00:25:38]Dane Reis: [00:25:38] Yeah. And how do you see the entertainment industry kind of evolving through this?

[00:25:44]Teresa Espinosa: [00:25:44] I think the entertainment industry is unfortunately the last to be a part of picking back up. Unfortunately, although I think entertainment helps us in our soul, not just the performers, but the people being entertained. It really lifts our spirits and allows us to forget our troubles. And unfortunately the government, obviously they have many things to consider, but the entertainment industry is just probably on the back burner.

[00:26:21] And

[00:26:21] Dane Reis: [00:26:21] And

[00:26:22]Teresa Espinosa: [00:26:22] depending on how people feel about having a vaccine come online and that allows people to feel comfortable being normal. Again. Who knows how the psyche of people ever really wanting to be near another person. Again,

[00:26:39] Dane Reis: [00:26:39] Again,

[00:26:40] Teresa Espinosa: [00:26:40] it’s unfortunate, but you know, but you know, the psychology of, of the quarantine, I think for some people it will affect them forever for I’m hoping for the majority to not fear each other and that we 

[00:26:55] Dane Reis: [00:26:55] and that we can,

[00:26:56]Teresa Espinosa: [00:26:56] trust in the universe that.

[00:26:58]Dane Reis: [00:26:58] that, 

[00:26:58] Teresa Espinosa: [00:26:58] That, I, how do I say this? Um, trust that we’re, we’re all good. It’s going to be okay. And that, as long as we keep, uh, an upbeat mindset and, and being positive about the future, the fear is really the thing. I think that is the hardest part to overcome because people are afraid right now. And. You know, that that just affects our industry because we have to do these things in person.

[00:27:25] We can’t, you know, we, we, you know, we, we, we saw how Saturday night live was on zoom. It sucked. 

[00:27:33] Dane Reis: [00:27:33] Suck 

[00:27:34] Teresa Espinosa: [00:27:34] DE 

[00:27:34] I mean, how many skits can they do about being on zoom? I don’t know. But now that they’re back, you know, in person it’s just so much better, you can connect. It’s like, This is why we entertain it’s to connect this to you. I don’t know.

[00:27:50]Um, I’m kind of going on a tangent, but I think that entertainment industry is really going to have to start getting creative and figure out how they can best stay alive through the ever-changing. Again, the changing winds of the moment, because there’s no guideline right now. just, there’s just no guideline.

[00:28:13] Dane Reis: [00:28:13] Yeah, it’s a crazy world rules are changing a mile a minute. Right. Right. So yeah. Thank you for that insight. And it is time to move on to one of my favorite sections in the interview. I call it the grease lightning round. I am going to ask you a handful of questions. I want you to answer them as quickly and concisely as possible one after another.

[00:28:37] Are you ready?

[00:28:39] Teresa Espinosa: [00:28:39] Yeah,

[00:28:41] Dane Reis: [00:28:41] All right. First question. What was the one thing holding you back from committing to a career as an entertainer?

[00:28:47]Teresa Espinosa: [00:28:47] I’m going to say nothing.

[00:28:49]Dane Reis: [00:28:49] Second question. What is the best piece of advice you have ever received?

[00:28:55]Teresa Espinosa: [00:28:55] Just keep going.

[00:28:56]Dane Reis: [00:28:56] Third question. What is something that is working for you right now? Or if you’d like to go pre COVID, what was working for you before our industry went on? Pause,

[00:29:08]Teresa Espinosa: [00:29:08] What was working for me? I

[00:29:12]pre COVID God.  Just following the fun.

[00:29:17]I’m still doing that.

[00:29:18]yeah. Even during this, yes. Follow the

[00:29:21] Dane Reis: [00:29:21] For sure. I think so often, you know, you know, we get caught up. It’s easy to get caught up, you know, you know, once this becomes your career, the way you earn income and make a living, it’s easy to lose sight of the reason we got into this in the first place. And to be chasing the paychecks, chasing the resume line, uh, instead of focusing on having fun and letting that stuff kind of take care of itself.

[00:29:46]Teresa Espinosa: [00:29:46] Exactly. Yes, I totally agree.

[00:29:49]Dane Reis: [00:29:49] And the fourth question, what is your best resource? Whether that is a book, a movie, a YouTube video, maybe a podcast or a piece of technology you found is helping your career right now.

[00:30:02]Teresa Espinosa: [00:30:02] I’m going to have to say Brendon, Burchard’s the motivation manifesto. I love that book.

[00:30:10] Dane Reis: [00:30:10] Oh, it is really good.

[00:30:12] Teresa Espinosa: [00:30:12] have you read it?

[00:30:13]Dane Reis: [00:30:13] I have, I have, it’s been a minute. Well, Well, I should say audible listened to it. Uh, but it’s been a minute. Uh, but uh, definitely going to have to give that a real listen.

[00:30:20]Teresa Espinosa: [00:30:20] He’s one of my favorite teachers, by the way, just in about life and motivation and habits. I just love his work.

[00:30:27]Dane Reis: [00:30:27] Yeah, so good. And the fifth question, if you had to start your career from scratch, but you still had all the knowledge and experience you’ve collected from your career in this industry, what would you do or not do?

[00:30:42] Would you do anything differently or would you keep it the same?

[00:30:45]Teresa Espinosa: [00:30:45] I loved what I did. And so I would have to say. I would keep most of it the same, but in the hard times, or when it felt sticky, I would just remind myself that it’s okay. It’s okay. And that everything is going to work out exactly how it’s meant to.

[00:31:04]Dane Reis: [00:31:04] Yes. Keep moving forward. Last question. What is the golden nugget knowledge or drop you’ve learned from your successful career in this industry that you’d like to leave with our listeners

[00:31:17]Teresa Espinosa: [00:31:17] I would have to say that really know who you are and stick with that. Don’t try to be anybody else. Just be you figure out your voice. What you want to create what you want to say and go do that because there’s enough copycatting going on. We don’t need any of that. We need leaders. We need creatives. We need people who are willing to step out of the box to push the envelope.

[00:31:46]Because especially with social media right now, everyone’s doing the same thing. Or a lot of times, not every time, a lot of times. And. We are capable of so much more because we are creative and we use our body and our talents to express ourselves. But when we, we can do so much more than we are doing, and I would just say, be true to yourself.

[00:32:10]Don’t try to be anybody else.

[00:32:12]Dane Reis: [00:32:12] Advice and to wrap up this interview, Theresa, it is time to give yourself a plug. Where can we find you? How do our listeners connect with you? Is there anything you want to promote?

[00:32:26]Teresa Espinosa: [00:32:26] Yes, you can find me on Instagram at Espenosa 22 that’s E S P I N O S a two two, and also my coaching. Brand that I am starting, which is move dot on dot purpose. And I want to share my experiences, my, my wisdom and my knowledge of the industry through dance and help other dancers and creatives really step into their greatness, because I think there’s a lot of anxiety and stress and fear about not being normal and having feeling like we have to conform.

[00:33:04] And I think that this is a disservice to us creatively. So I really want to help others to just step into their full power into their greatness, because I think we are capable of so much more. And yeah, that’s my that’s my calling now is to help others.

[00:33:19]Dane Reis: [00:33:19] . Brilliant. And for everyone listening out there, I have put the links to everything Theresa just said into the description of this episode and to check out, move on purpose, go to you.

[00:33:32] booked@podcast.com forward slash. Purpose and get connected with Theresa there, and also be sure to share this podcast with your fellow entertainers, coaches, teachers, arts, and entertainment educators, and anyone, you know, you know, who’s aspiring to create a successful career in this entertainment industry. You booked.

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[00:34:16] It has been an absolute pleasure and honor to have you on today

[00:34:21]Teresa Espinosa: [00:34:21] Thank you for having me. I really enjoyed it. Thank you.