Andy Portelli

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EP 179: Andy Portelli (autogenerated)

Dane Reis: [00:00:00] You booked it. Episode 179. Okay. Let’s get started. I am excited to introduce my guest today. Andy Portelli, are you ready for the Sandy? 

[00:00:14]Andy Portelli: [00:00:14] Yeah, let’s do it. 

[00:00:15]Dane Reis: [00:00:15] All right. Yeah. Andy’s career has spanned more than 15 years performing around the globe. His first major breakthrough was landing a 12 month acting contract for Tom Hanks and Steven Spielberg’s the Pacific filming in North Queensland and Melbourne Australia, us Marine soldier in a 10 part mini series.

[00:00:36] He then studied full time performing arts at industry dance after graduating, and he began his. First dance contract as a production dancer for princess cruises after ships, he was off to Singapore where he was a principal lead in a multi-million dollar production of light seeker. 

[00:00:54] Soon after he booked a singer dancer contract for , universal studios, Singapore, which concluded his performing career. Now he looks after casting and finds a new talent through one of Melbourne’s most irreputable corporate entertainment companies. Andy. That is a quick intro of who you are and what you’ve done, but why don’t you tell us a little bit more about yourself, fill in the gaps and a little bit more about what you do as a professional in the entertainment industry.

[00:01:25]Andy Portelli: [00:01:25] Sure. So I was born and raised in. In Melbourne, Australia. And I was actually the black sheep of the family. My family was very sport orientated, and I was the one that wanted to perform. So, um, I was always involved in the school productions and I remember I was in the school production of guys and dolls and I was playing nice in Detroit.

[00:01:45]And the girl that was playing Adelaide had been performing all her life. And she just so happened to have her agent coming to the audience, watch the production. And sure enough, I got approached after, after the show, which was quite exciting. Um, yeah. And that’s sort of how I started my performance journey.

[00:02:02] I signed up to the agency and it wasn’t until I finished high school when I started taking dance lessons. So I was. Quite likely to the party. I was 18 years old when I started dancing. Um, yeah. And now I look after casting and finding new talent for a company that I work for. So I get to work alongside some really

[00:02:19] incredible talented artists.

[00:02:21] It’s exciting.

[00:02:22]Dane Reis: [00:02:22] brilliant. I also didn’t start dancing or performing anything anything  really until 17 and a half, 18 years old. I did, I did sports. I played the sports and then injuries took me out. And then here I am, I’m singing and dancing so much prefer it this way.

[00:02:36] Andy Portelli: [00:02:36] Oh, absolutely. Absolutely.

[00:02:39] Dane Reis: [00:02:39] Yeah, for sure. Well, let’s move on to this first section here. And Andy, look, I am a sucker for a good quote. What is your favorite quote? You’d like to share with everyone? 

[00:02:50] Andy Portelli: [00:02:50] I love good quotes as well. So my favorite is your time will come. And I absolutely love this quote so much because I really just force you to stop comparing your journey to others. I think it’s so easy to do that. Um, you know, some people’s time comes early than others, but if you know, you continuously work on your craft and you focus on yourself, the universe will provide an opportunity.

[00:03:11] And I truly believe that the universe isn’t that cruel, if you will work hard on yourself and your skillset , um,and you continuously do that, something will present itself.

[00:03:21] So yeah. My favorite quote is your time will come.

[00:03:23] Yeah. 

[00:03:24] Dane Reis: [00:03:24] Yes. And it’s not just that the opportunity will present itself. It’s that you’ll be prepared for when that opportunity presents itself.

[00:03:31] Andy Portelli: [00:03:31] absolutely. Absolutely. That’s very important. 

[00:03:33] Yeah. 

[00:03:33] Dane Reis: [00:03:33] sure. They go hand in hand. Right? 

[00:03:35] Andy Portelli: [00:03:35] Absolutely. Yeah. I believe, you know, you know, you’re supposed to be where you are , um, in life, depending on, you know, your life experience and again, being prepared for that moment. So

[00:03:46] yeah, it does go hand in it does go hand in hand. It really does.

[00:03:49]Dane Reis: [00:03:49] Great. Well, let’s, let’s dig into this first section here. And Andy, of course, you’re an entertainment professional, I’m an entertainment professional. And I think that you would agree that this industry can be one of the most subjective, brutally, honest And personally emotional industries in existence.

[00:04:08] And you know, as well as I. That in order to create and have a successful career in this industry, like your having now takes a lot of dedication and hard work and while yeah. There’s an outrageous amount of fun and fulfillment and excitement doing what we  do. There are also our fair share of obstacles, challenges, and failures.

[00:04:29] Uh, we are going to experience and we’re going to have to move forward through. So tell us what is one key challenge, obstacle or failure you’ve experienced in your career and how did you come out the other side better because of it. 

[00:04:43]Andy Portelli: [00:04:43] Yeah, sure. So apart from being so hard on myself and I’m sure every, every performance, their own worst critic , um, for me personally, it was always my height. Um, I’m five foot four, and this was always my biggest challenge when I was constantly auditioning. You know, there’s just not enough work in Australia to , um, To have a continuous, ongoing working career.

[00:05:06] So you do find that a lot of Aziz is go to every audition that is happening, whether it’s to musical, a cruise ship or a same park. when I was younger, I was constantly going to these auditions and I’d be making it to the end, but then I’d be told that I wouldn’t either fit into the costumes or I wouldn’t be able to partner because the girls would be taller than me once I put on their heels Von.

[00:05:28]So. Um, you do develop a tough skin. Over time. But I do remember this particular audition. I’d been there all day it to the end and they pulled me aside and you know, they, they praised me and they said how much they love me, but they couldn’t offer me anything because I just put them fit into the costumes.

[00:05:43] And I remember leaving that audition with such a bright face. And then once I got into my car, I just brought arch down because it was a factor that I couldn’t change, you know, if it was, if it was because I wasn’t flexible enough or I need to work on my technique, that was something that I was able to go away and, and work on an perfect, but because it was a factor that I physically couldn’t change.

[00:06:06] It was just a wool that I kept that day. And I remember I just got into my car and I just broke down and I was vulnerable for a moment and it’s okay to be vulnerable. Um, I know, you know, you know,

[00:06:16] it’s until you get older, when you gain some life experience and maturity, that I then realized that I wasn’t going to be right for every role, but I was going to be right for more specific roles.

[00:06:27] And it wasn’t until I went to the South, that things started presenting themselves, changing me. And that’s when I started booking booking gigs. Yeah. So I’m still, I did that , um, mind shift that’s when things started working in my favor.

[00:06:38] So I turned a negative into a positive.

[00:06:41] Dane Reis: [00:06:41] a company. Yeah. Beautiful. I’m so glad that you shared that journey because it’s a crazy world. It’s a crazy industry that so much of. How and why we book a job is so far out of our control.

[00:06:54] It is those physical things physical things that you can’t go work on. Those Those you are who you are. Right. But the fact that you, I mean, look, I think we all, at some point, it’s one thing to talk about it, of course, and it, and having the knowledge and being prepared and having a podcast and having a podcast like this, where we can, you know, you can share stories like this.

[00:07:11] It’s really, it’s really fantastic, but. Ultimately, you’re going to experience experience those things yourself when you’re going into those rooms, whatever your thing is, right. That you can’t change about yourself. That just didn’t work for a producer or a casting agent. And it’s tough to have that, but it’s so wonderful to have experiences like yours being shared here because you found.

[00:07:34]The mindset switch and you just go look, I had to realize I’m not right for everything that when I realized that, and I really embrace that well, that’s when things started coming around this, when that’s, when the opportunities started showing up, and those were the things that you were good for, The things that were the, your Achilles heel to say to say in one audition is now your greatest strength. Right. And it’s so important to have made that switch. 

[00:08:03] Andy Portelli: [00:08:03] Yeah, absolutely. I remember going into the audition for light seeker and the casting director asked me, he said, how tall are you? And I was, so I was actually hesitant in saying my true Heights, you know, I was like, Oh, do I, do I add a couple of inches here? Or do I just be honest? And he could tell on my face that I was insecure about answering the question.

[00:08:27]And he said, no, honestly, it’s okay. And I said, you know, you know, I’m short, I’m five, four, five foot three, five foot four. And he was like, that’s fine. You know? And that in that situation actually worked in my favor because the role that they were looking at me for. Required to be short, you know? you know? So I think when you’re young and naive, you want to put yourself out there and you had gone, how about landing, landing a contract?

[00:08:55] And like I said, like I was going to every audition and I knew that I wasn’t right for things that I was going for. But yeah, it’s until you get older and wiser , um, that you work out that year, you aren’t , you, you were not going to be the perfect set for. Every scarves. So, yeah, I think it’s important to , um, sit down and work out what you are going to be rifle and actually saves you

[00:09:16] a lot of time as well.

[00:09:20] Dane Reis: [00:09:20] for sure. It’s one of those things that actually coach and , and talk about. I was actually speaking with Kent state , state university, uh, too. Loads of their, performing arts and acting students over in Ohio the other day, virtually of course. And I was telling them like, look, the one thing that that  I like to tell everyone when they’re starting out in this career, or even if you you’ve started professionally is to ask yourself, what is it you actually want out of your career? Get super clear on that. And the more clear you can get on that, that really helps direct you. In what you’re going to pursue because this industry is crazy. Just even within say within saymusical theater, there’s a million directions you can go, you know,

[00:10:02] so get clear on what you want and you save all that time.

[00:10:06] You can get efficient about how you spend your time and the way you work.

[00:10:11] Andy Portelli: [00:10:11] Absolutely. And I think it’s also important too. To know that your goals change as you do get older. You know, You know, my goal from when I was a fresh 18 year old coming out of high school, wanting to pursue a career in the performing arts industry. My goals have changed since then. And that’s okay. There’s nothing wrong with your goals, you know, evolving over time, I think.

[00:10:32] Yeah. I think, yeah. People need to realize that as well, because I know I was so hard on myself when I was going through the shift. I actually had a major injury in Singapore when I was doing like sacar pinch the neck and my neck. And , um, you know, I was hospitalized and it wasn’t until that moment where I was like, I need to, I need to work out what else I’m going to be able to do.

[00:10:52] In this industry, because I wanted to be in this industry. I’ve always known that if I wasn’t performing, I still wanted to be involved in some capacity. And it was that moment when I remember I was laying in hospital, I was like, okay, I need to think about my future here, because this may be it. This may be my last performance contract.

[00:11:10] And thank God it wasn’t, but my goals, you know, had. Had changed as I got older and that’s okay. It doesn’t mean that you’ve failed. I think that’s so important because again, we’re so hard on, on ourselves and, you know, never, you know, never, never , um, compare

[00:11:26] yourself to other other people’s journeys. I can’t stress that enough.

[00:11:29]It’s so detrimental to your own mental health as well.

[00:11:32]Dane Reis: [00:11:32] Yes. Yes. And that, that has come up quite a few times, few times, actually, throughout  this interview process of, you know, know,  don’t compare yourself. It’s, it’s pointless. It’s really just a toxic place to be. Uh, you can use it for motivation. Sure. But that certainly also there’s a fine line, you know, to ride there and.

[00:11:49] It’s okay. okay. To have  to be motivated and inspired, but to go the other, the other side of that knife’s edge can be very, it’s very easy to do, and it can be very can be very detrimental, but I’m also really glad that you brought up. You know, , my priorities changed a little bit. I had to. Reassess my career. And so happy to have you on the show because you have made that transition successfully through your career.

[00:12:14] And that’s so important for everyone listening to hear, because a lot of us. Entertainers, we know physically, we we  aren’t going to be able to do this job  you know,  until we’re 90 years old or something like this. 

[00:12:26] So how do we, how do we make that transition successfully and to give I’m so glad to use gave the permission to do that to everyone, because it’s so important that you do take that on and you it’s okay to reassess and you can still find that creative, artistic fulfillment in other parts of this industry.

[00:12:45]Andy Portelli: [00:12:45] Absolutely. Absolutely. It’s so important. And there are other avenues, you know, for me, I always thought that I wanted to be performing, you know, up until I’m a very old man, but. 

[00:12:56]

[00:12:56] know, I, unfortunately I did have that injury and , uh, an a is long lasting and I didn’t need to, I really didn’t need to think about where I was going in my life’s path.

[00:13:07] And there are opportunities out there there’s actually so many different avenues of the industry that many people don’t even consider or really know about. 

[00:13:17]

[00:13:17] Um, You know, Melbourne has such a huge corporate event, same way performance able to work regularly in the corporate , um, industry. You know, You know, music theater is very scarce in comparison to America and.

[00:13:31]You know, the West end UK. Um, so you do find that a lot of Australians are doing corporate entertainment on the weekends. Obviously COVID paused everything, but now 

[00:13:41] that things are picking. Yeah. Well, things are picking back up here in Australia, which is fantastic and we’ve gone from zero to a hundred.

[00:13:47] And so. Yeah , there’s, there’s plenty of opportunity in the entertainment field , um, that isn’t performing. And for me, I was lucky that I found a job where I’m able to scout new talent and, and do casting, which is something I’m hugely passionate about because I’ve also been a performer. I able to understand where the performer comes from, you know, and when they walk into the audition room and they are auditioning for Ross.

[00:14:10] I totally understand what they’re going through mentally and, you know, the excitement, the nerves , the,the adrenaline, everything. So I think also being a performer, I do still perform every now and then just, that’s not my focus now. Um, I’m able to, I’m able to empathize and I, I can understand where they’re coming from.

[00:14:30] So yeah. It doesn’t mean if you’re not performing, it doesn’t mean that you’re not successful at all. Anything in

[00:14:36] life life things happen for a reason. 

[00:14:39]Dane Reis: [00:14:39] well said, and let’s move on to a time that I like to call your spotlight moment. That one moment in time you realized, yes, I am going to be an entertainer for a living or maybe it was, yes. This is what I need to be doing as an entertainer. Tell us about that.

[00:15:03] Andy Portelli: [00:15:03] Yes feels. So I actually can’t say that I have a spotlight moment because I’ve always wanted to be a performer from as young as I can remember. you know, , um, you know, when adults aren’t skewed, Oh, what do you want to be when you’re older? My answer was always, I want to be an actor and that was always my answer from as young as I can remember.

[00:15:20] And my parents said, baby footage of me crawling over to our 80 sound system. I’m pulling myself up and bopping up and down. I couldn’t even walk, but I would pull myself up and I’d be bopping up and down to whatever track that I’d be playing on their, their record player. So, yeah, I think I’ve always had it in my blood that I wanted to perform.

[00:15:39] I was always involved in the school musicals and. And all the productions. So for me, there was no particular spotlight moment. I do remember the saying my first ever musical, which was grace. And I remember after watching that, I was like, yeah, that’s what I want to do. So maybe that was my

[00:15:53] spotlight moment.

[00:15:54] Maybe that was just the icing on the cake.

[00:15:57] Dane Reis: [00:15:57] Yeah, there it is. Stamp of validation. You’re like, yep. I was right this whole time.

[00:16:02] Andy Portelli: [00:16:02] That’s right.

[00:16:05] Dane Reis: [00:16:05] Great. Well, let’s piggyback on that real quick and talk about your number one, booked it moment. Walk us through that day, the auditions and callbacks. If they happen to be a part of it, what was going on in your life? And what about that moment?

[00:16:20] It makes it your favorite book. That moment.

[00:16:25] Andy Portelli: [00:16:25] Okay. My number one booked at moment would definitely have to be  when I landed my first major contract and that was for the Pacific. And I remember I had three callbacks. I had to also submit a self type and I actually had really long hair at the time. And I remember going into my second Cole back.

[00:16:46] And the casting director asked me if I was willing to shave my head. And naturally I just said yes, straight away without even thinking twice. But it wasn’t until I walked out of the audition and it sort of sort of hit me. And I was like, what if I do get another call back? I’m going to have to shake my head. And my head back there was like my private joy.

[00:17:05]Um, Sure enough, I got the final callbacks. I walked into that final call back with the shaved head. I did it. I went down to the hairdressers and I was like, yep, let’s do it. Um, yeah. So, and yeah, I remember I was, I was. How old was, I was 19 at the time. So I’d only been dancing for the 12 months, is that my local performing arts studio, where they were holding a part-time course.

[00:17:28] And they had some of Melbourne’s most well-known choreography taking classes. And it just so happened that the performing arts , uh, studio that was there was where my agent was based. And I was in a cloth and my agent came down and he asked the teacher to stop the music. And he said he had an, the announcement tonight where we’re all looking at each other.

[00:17:46] Sure enough. Some of my closest friends are also in the class and all he said was, Andy, you did it. And it’s just a memory that I’ll never forget. All of a sudden lighted all that hard work. And it was months of auditioning back and forth. And I shaved my head for it. And I got a, I got a role in the Pacific, which is something that I’ll never 

[00:18:05] forget was an absolutely incredible experience.

[00:18:09] Dane Reis: [00:18:09] That is amazing. And can you talk just, just a little bit about being on set, doing that, working with Tom Hanks, Steven Spielberg.

[00:18:20]Andy Portelli: [00:18:20] Yeah. So 

[00:18:22]it stems from their first production band of brothers. Um, and it was filming in fondled Queensland, which is just such a beautiful location in Australia. If you have a drink, get to go, definitely check it out because it is beautiful. The great Bowery rice up there. Um, I’ve got to fill them up in far North Queensland for three months.

[00:18:37] It was very demanding. We had to do an intensive 10 day boot camp with real U us Marine soldiers to get a, some into character and. Understand how to, you know, hold a weapon and , uh, really get into their frame of mind of what the wolves like, you know, you know, sleeping with one eye open all the time. Um, so that was, that was an experience that was mentally and physically challenging without saying the lakes.

[00:19:00]Um, so that was, yeah, that was a couple of weeks of intense , uh, military training. And then, yeah, we got to, we got to film over the 12 months. Uh, we relocated back into, into Melbourne where we shot majority of the production got to make Tom hates personally when we worked in fine North Queensland. And that was an experience he’s very, very passionate about.

[00:19:20]Uh, these the, that happened in our time. So that was that again, that’s a moment that I’ll never, ever forget and, you know, got to work with some amazing us actors that I see constantly in film and TV now, which is, which is a spin-out. I also love that with when we were training, you know, you know, doing. Bootcamp that they threw us all in there together that we had no idea who was playing while we were all treated equally.

[00:19:47] There was no hierarchy, you know, we all ate Russians. We all, we all wore the same uniform. We all got treated the same.

[00:19:53]Yeah. I definitely came out of that. A different person without a doubt, without a doubt. It’s something that, yeah, I’m so grateful for and something that I’m able to understand what, you know, our, the generations before us went through, understand we’ve gone through something completely tragic right now with COVID-19 coronavirus spot 

[00:20:13] to enjoy a wall.

[00:20:15] And to take part in that is just something that you, you can’t even fathom. You know, and I understand that I, you know, I, I was portraying, I was acting, I was telling the story of what happened in our time of the Pacific war. 

[00:20:26] Um, 

[00:20:26] you know, we also got to meet some veterans and their stories that like, I’ll take them, I’ll take them to the grave.

[00:20:33]You know, there’s something that I’ll. I just saw I’ve got so much respectful them and the people that have gone through that. So that was a real

[00:20:42] beautiful life lesson too, 

[00:20:45]Dane Reis: [00:20:45] Yeah. Wonderful. Thanks for sharing that.

[00:20:49] Yeah. And let’s take a moment to talk about the present. What projects have you got got going on right now? What are you looking forward to? And you know, we’ve mentioned it a bit, this crazy pandemic. How do you see the entertainment industry moving forward in the next couple of years?

[00:21:07] Andy Portelli: [00:21:09] You know, it’s unfortunate that the entertainment and the events industry was the first one to go. Um, when all of this happened, I do see it slowly coming back or really hard at that people get behind us without a doubt. Um, I know for other countries that’s happening a lot slower than what it’s happening here in Australia.

[00:21:27] We seem to have things under control, which is really great. Um, You know, now I look after I look after television and I’m constantly getting always scouting, new talent holding auditions, and which is something that I’m truly passionate about. Um, you know, and I love that I’ve been able to provide work for performers.

[00:21:44]It’s it’s yeah. I’m able to give back now, which is great. Um, like I said earlier, A lot of performance in Australia are able to work frequently because of our corporate scene, especially in Melbourne. Um, a lot of performers, Australian performance going overseas for the word.

[00:21:58] That’s why I went, I went to Singapore, fell in love with the country and I did like seeker. And then I auditioned for universal because yeah, the country is beautiful, but for me now , it’s, it’s focusing on being able to provide work for. For performance in Australia, Australia, worldwide, we provide work all over Australia, which is fantastic.

[00:22:15] Melvin’s outbase but yeah, we do get inquiries for, for Australia. And sometimes I have to say is at the moment, obviously that’s on hold , um, due to the borders and whatnot, but , um, yeah, for me , it’s, it’s working on the other side of entertainment, which is great. It’s given me a whole new insight to how things work behind the scenes.

[00:22:32] Things that I did it at night when I

[00:22:33] was performing.

[00:22:35]Dane Reis: [00:22:35] Awesome. And it is time now to move on to one of my favorite sections in the interview. I call it the grease lightning round. I am going to ask you a handful of questions. I want you to answer them as quickly and concisely as possible one after another. Are you ready? All right. First question.

[00:22:57] What was the one thing holding you back from committing to a career as an entertainer?

[00:23:02]Andy Portelli: [00:23:02] Is in the fear of failure, again was so 

[00:23:05] Dane Reis: [00:23:05] There we 

[00:23:05] Andy Portelli: [00:23:05] sells naturally as this industry is so brutal, but until yeah, maturity hit me, I was able to be content and satisfied with my successes and my journeys.

[00:23:15]Dane Reis: [00:23:15] Second question. What is the best piece of advice you have ever received? 

[00:23:21]Andy Portelli: [00:23:21] I love this. Don’t take it personally. You may be the missing piece of the jigsaw puzzle, or you might be the piece that doesn’t fit, you know, and again, don’t take it personally. I auditioned for the Australian tour West side story, just a quick story. And , um, You know, they were looking for a cover to play both a shark and a jet.

[00:23:37] And it was between me and one other guy. And it came down to the facts that I looked to European to play a jet. I’ve got European heritage in my blood. So I’ve got the dark skin and dark hair. And again, there was nothing that I could have done about that. It didn’t mean that my talent wasn’t up to standard for this show.

[00:23:53] It was purely my law. So

[00:23:56]again, don’t take it personally.

[00:23:58]Dane Reis: [00:23:58] there it is. I mean, there’s an example of it working out on the performance side, but then everyone we’re listening to Andy here and he’s in casting. Now he

[00:24:06] does this. So he’s telling you from his perspective as. A casting agent that it really isn’t personal and they, you can still be beautiful, wonderful at what you do, but if it’s not the right fit, if that’s that’s all, it is 

[00:24:23] Andy Portelli: [00:24:23] Absolutely. And you know, it, I say it like a jigsaw puzzle and that’s why I use that analogy about, you know, the missing piece or the piece that doesn’t fit. Essentially, you’re finding the pieces to the G to the jigsaw puzzle, you know, and if you not right for that, for that piece of the puzzle, you may be right for the next one, you know, and if you did such a great audition, we’re going to remember you for the next opportunity that comes up.

[00:24:46]So that’s my little piece of advice.

[00:24:50] Dane Reis: [00:24:50] Yeah. Beautiful. Fantastic. And the third question, what is something that is working for you right now? Or if you’d like to go pre COVID, what was working for you before our industry went on? Pause

[00:25:04]Andy Portelli: [00:25:04] Sure. So I always think there’s an opportunity to start learning a new craft and. For me. I knew that I wanted to migrate to the other side of entertainment, but I didn’t want to fully give up performing entirely. So when I was at universal studios in Singapore of ones find some work life balance. So I actually, um, started taking up DJ lessons over there and I was working 

[00:25:26] Dane Reis: [00:25:26] Oh, cool. 

[00:25:28] Andy Portelli: [00:25:28] one of Singapore’s like leading club DJs.

[00:25:30] And I was in there once a week and I was learning a new skill and then sure enough, COVID hit and mobile went into such a. Huge strict lockdown that went on for months. So I took that opportunity to hone in on those skills. And now that things are picking back up, I’m actually gigging professionally as a DJ on the weekends for corporate events.

[00:25:52] So although I’m not performing on stage, I’m still performing. So there is never a moment where you can’t start up a new skill. It doesn’t matter how old you are.

[00:26:04] Yeah. So for me, what’s working for me now is that I’ve learned a new skill

[00:26:07] and I’m taking it 

[00:26:09] Dane Reis: [00:26:09] titled it with both hands and I’m running with it. Yeah. Brilliant. I love that. And the fourth question, what is your best resource? Whether that is a book, a movie, maybe a YouTube video or a podcast, maybe a piece of technology that you found is helping your career right now. 

[00:26:28] Andy Portelli: [00:26:28] Yeah. So the resources available today is incredible. I wish what is available now is what we had back then, like this podcast, for instance, I think it’s fantastic to hear people’s stories and realize that, you know, we’re all human. Um, it doesn’t matter what you’ve done in life, what role you’ve played, but the fact that they ease available resources like a podcast and interviewing people is fantastic.

[00:26:50]Uh, for me, social media is huge. Especially when I’m looking for new talent, I can easily jump on talents, profiles, and I trade it like a digital portfolio. And I can see what they’re doing if they’ve posted any performance clips or how they perform or what they might be like as a person. And it’s so easy to contact them through social media now.

[00:27:11]Um, whereas back in the day it was hotter. Um, But yeah, social media obviously has its pros and cons. You can fall into the rabbit hole and compare your journey to others, which is very important to , um, you know, make sure that you’re mentally aware of. But for me, when I am looking for new talent , um, I do hop on social media.

[00:27:28]It’s it’s easily accessible. So remember to treat your, your profile like a

[00:27:33] digital portfolio, because it is important. 

[00:27:36]Dane Reis: [00:27:36] yes,

[00:27:36] yes, very well said. I’ve been saying this this  for years. Um, and, and now it just keeps coming up again and again, and again, and more and more. That? Yes. Social media is your, like you said, your running portfolio, your running resume, if you will, that it’s used as a resource to learn about what it is you do. And it’s , it’s, easier than just reading a resume, just some text, right?

[00:27:59] Cause it’s, It’s, more, you can see the content, right? You have video and photos. It’s, it’s much better than just reading a resume. So you have to treat it like it

[00:28:07] is like it’s a serious tool. 

[00:28:09] Andy Portelli: [00:28:09] Yeah, absolutely. And you can gauge them as a person, which is so important because you could beat the most talented person, but if you’re hard to work with low, then that that that’s a huge factor that goes into having a long lasting relationship between a performer and you know, the person that is hiring you.

[00:28:27]If you are a pleasure to work with, that’s going to be so much more outstanding because… I remember when I was training in full time, the course director, we would always say,   as hard as it might sound, everyone is replaceable, you know? you know? And if you, if you’re hard to work with then that’s going to be a problem.

[00:28:44] So yeah, just remember that your, that your social media profile is able to, I guess, tell us what 

[00:28:49] you’re like as a person. Be a nice person, be a nice

[00:28:52] person in life. 

[00:28:56] Dane Reis: [00:28:56] Good advice right 

[00:28:57] there. And, the fifth question, if you had to start your career from scratch, but you still had all the knowledge and experience you’ve collected from your career in this industry, what would you do or not do? Would you do anything differently or would you keep it the same?

[00:29:14] Andy Portelli: [00:29:14] Yeah , so, because I started dancing at 18, I felt like I had to really work on that craft , um, because I had no dance techniques, you know, I just had natural flexibility just from being a kid and playing sport, but I actually neglected my singing because I was so concerned about not having dance since I was 18 years old.

[00:29:34]Um, So it wasn’t until I was older, that I then flipped it and I shifted my focus to the singing. So I would say to my younger self , give, give equal attention to all cross of performing, acting, singing, dancing. I even did acrobatics because I was so short. I was like, okay, what else is going to get me to read the audition process?

[00:29:52] If they do ask, you know, does anyone have any accurate skills? Um, I would say just work. On your craft equally across all aspects, singing, dancing, acting acrobatics, which seems to be very important 

[00:30:03] in 

[00:30:03] Dane Reis: [00:30:03] important 

[00:30:04] Andy Portelli: [00:30:04] well. 

[00:30:04] You need to be a

[00:30:05] quadruple threat, not a 

[00:30:06] triple threat, a quadruple threat.

[00:30:08] Dane Reis: [00:30:08] Honestly, honestly, Oh, everyone can flip. Now everyone can do a handful of cool things. It’s the way it is. Yeah. And the last question, what is the golden nugget knowledge you drop it? You’ve learned from your successful career that you’d like to leave with our listeners.

[00:30:25]Andy Portelli: [00:30:25] Yeah, sure. As simple as your journey is your journey, don’t compare your successes to others. 

[00:30:32] Dane Reis: [00:30:32] Brilliant. So good. And to wrap up this interview, Andy, it is time to give yourself a plug. Where can we find you? How do our listeners connect with you? Is there anything you want to

[00:30:47]Andy Portelli: [00:30:47] Sure. So you can find me on Instagram. My handle is Andy Portelli, or if you are talent in Australia, whether you’re a DJ, a musician singer dances, you can hit me up@andyatrutherfordentertainment.com. Did I? You 

[00:31:06] Dane Reis: [00:31:06] we can go from there. 

[00:31:07]Beautiful. And for everyone listening out there, I have put the links to everything. Andy just said into the description of this episode. So you can easily get connected with him and also be sure to share this podcast with your fellow entertainers, coaches, teachers, arts, and entertainment educators, and anyone that you know, aspiring to create a career in this.

[00:31:30] Industry you booked. It is the number one resource of expertise on how to actually create a successful entertainment career case in point, everything Andy shared with us today, really bridging the gap between the performance and the casting side of this industry. Such great information that you can take away right now.

[00:31:51] If you like this episode, make sure you hit that subscribe button. So you don’t miss the next one. Andy. Thank you so much for being here. I’m so glad we got connected.

[00:32:01] Andy Portelli: [00:32:01] Oh, you’re most welcome. And thank you for having me on your podcast. What an absolute pleasure. 

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