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EP 187: Chloe Arnold (autogenerated)

Dane Reis: [00:00:00] You booked it. Episode 187. Okay. Let’s get started. I am excited to introduce my guest today, Chloe Arnold, are you ready for this Chloe?

[00:00:13]Chloe Arnold: [00:00:13] I am so ready. Thank you for having me.

[00:00:15] Dane Reis: [00:00:15] Yeah, absolutely. Chloe  is an Emmy nominated choreographer and founder of syncopated. Ladies.

[00:00:22] Chloe was discovered at the young age of 16 in Washington, DC by Debbie Allen and her choreography has been featured on hit television shows such as, so you think you can dance good morning America, the Ellen show, the talk and over 30 episodes of the late, late, late show with James cordon with Chloe paving, the way in carving out.

[00:00:43] Syncopated ladies own place in the industry. They’ve garnished over 50 million views on line receiving praise from Beyonce will be Goldberg on the view as well as many other celebrities and news outlets around the world. Chloe. That is a quick intro of who you are and what you’ve done, but why don’t you tell us a little bit more about yourself, filling the caps and a little bit more about what you do as a professional in the entertainment industry.

[00:01:14]Chloe Arnold: [00:01:14] Well, I , uh, have a love and passion for dance that I’ve had since I was a kid. And this is what I knew I wanted to do. Um, I started off with , uh, tap dancing and I really got inspired because at the age of 10, I had seen the movie. Tap starting Gregory Hines. And shortly thereafter, he came to Washington DC and did master classes in a performance.

[00:01:36] And for me that was like sealed the deal. I was like, Oh my goodness. You know, it went from something I was seeing on the silver screen to right in front of me. And I was like, I want to be a tap dancer. And so I’ve really, yeah, right. So I really started to pursue learning as much as I could and training as hard as I could.

[00:01:51]And, and it was really Debbie Allen. That came also to DC to do a play that I got to be a part of. And through that. Experience with her. I realized I needed to expand the language of , uh, my dancing skills so that while I still, while tap dance was still my first language that I was going to learn more languages and be able to express myself freely.

[00:02:13] And so that’s what I did. And it’s been absolutely incredible because , uh, having these other styles of dances under my belt has allowed me to. What makes syncopated ladies really unique and how we approach tap dance, because all of the women have trained in multiple styles of dance. So when we’re dancing the prints, we’re able to put that flair or for dancing to Beyonce.

[00:02:34] We have that flare, so it really lends to , um, The uniqueness of how we present tap dance. And then in terms of television, it allows me to choreograph musical theater and hip hop and jazz. And so it’s given me an incredible career in television. And , um, I actually moving towards choreographing a movie very soon.

[00:02:53] Dane Reis: [00:02:53] Oh, very cool. I really enjoy that little recap of the career in life. Uh, I love how you said learning languages. That’s such a good way to put it in a good image. Uh, and I think you’re so right that in our careers and what we do, it’s, I think it’s so important to have as many languages, as you say, under your belt, because you never really know the direction of your career or how you can, like you’ve done with syncopated ladies, which by the way, everyone, if you haven’t checked out syncopated ladies on YouTube, make sure you check it out.

[00:03:25] It’s pretty amazing. And. Yeah, of course. It’s fantastic. I’ve watched so many of your videos at this point and

[00:03:33] Chloe Arnold: [00:03:33] I appreciate

[00:03:33] Dane Reis: [00:03:33] yeah. it’s it really, it was that, look, I can take all of these different elements of what I know and combined it into something that’s never been done before. So I think having more skill sets, more tools in your tool belt is always beneficial for everyone in their career.

[00:03:48]Chloe Arnold: [00:03:48] Absolutely. I, I, and I love even when you say too about the, you know, I’m , uh,I’m into home improvement and it just made me think, it just made me think about that idea of, you know, buying a tool kit. Right. And then only using one tool in the toolkit. And it, it doesn’t mean that you’re like better than anybody else because you only use that one tool.

[00:04:07] It just means you haven’t explored like, Oh, what does this tool do? And how can I utilize this and how do they compliment each other? And I think that that’s , um, the fun part about learning.

[00:04:15] Dane Reis: [00:04:15] Yeah, absolutely. And let’s move on to this first section here and Chloe, look, I am a sucker for a good quote. What is your favorite quote? You’d like to share with everyone?

[00:04:27]Chloe Arnold: [00:04:27] My favorite uh, , uh, saying is teamwork makes the dream work. I have found that in the number one. Uh, current through everything I’ve done that has made things that seemed impossible possible is that I’ve had an incredible team of believers. People that truly believe that what we are imagining can take life.

[00:04:48] And that has happened in every realm from the most unfunded grassroots to the most, you know, uh, funded , uh, you know, shows with will Smith and James cordon. The number one constant is that all of these things have a beautiful team.

[00:05:04] Dane Reis: [00:05:04] Teamwork is everything in this, in this arts world, right? Yes. There’s There’s there’s times when we have to do our work solo and we have there’s parts of it that we need to figure out on our own. Right. But ultimately, if you’re going to produce anything, if you’re going to do anything like that, you need people.

[00:05:20] Even if you’re a solo act, you need people. To be part of that experience, so it can be appreciated and enjoyed and you can share what it is that you’re doing. It’s such a inclusive art form. And I think, or I guess art in general really is so inclusive of everything in every one, whether that means you’re directly collaborating or if you’re, uh, someone who’s consuming the content in that is also its own kind of strange collaboration.

[00:05:47] Right.

[00:05:48]Chloe Arnold: [00:05:48] Oh, it’s 100%. You know, You know, I was thinking about that. There are so many , uh, I was actually, this is just really fun and basic, but I just posted something on Instagram and I wrote caption. This, that in and of itself is a collaboration because somebody’s going to say something that makes me see what I have shared with them in another way.

[00:06:11] And I think that’s incredible because. Um, just when you thought that you were presenting this, because this is how you saw it and you saw your art, someone else sees your art in another way. And I think it’s really fun and powerful because you know, it, it helps you grow. So someone can say something and then that make me go, Oh my God.

[00:06:29] Okay. I got to try that. Even my last solo video came out of my hairdresser, sending me an idea. And then I was like waiting for the right time. I was like, ah, I’m not sure how to make it work. And then another friend of mine sent me a different idea and I thought, Oh my goodness, these ideas compliment one another.

[00:06:48] And then bam, I had a new idea to do a quote unquote solo video, but the reality is it took a team to come up with the idea to shoot the idea and also to market it and to get it out to the world.

[00:07:01] Dane Reis: [00:07:01] Yeah, that’s so cool. And I think sometimes the, we’re talking about all of these, this teamwork and working together and collaboration and what really, I think the overarching theme of what I’ve really discovered through speaking with so many fantastic people like yourself on this podcast is that it’s really becoming very clear that the number one.

[00:07:21]Element, the number one fundamental almost of what really makes this career work is relationships. that’s, that’s, that’s everything in from, I mean, I mean, I’ve spoken on relationships a handful of times, but I think I’ve just really put it all together there. And with this collaboration idea and for whatever reason that all the, all the dots really got connected , uh, just in this last second, but relationships are everything in this industry.

[00:07:45] Chloe Arnold: [00:07:45] Yes, it is an incredible, I cannot stress this enough to any aspiring dancer. It’s beyond your steps. It’s the heart of what you put into what you’re doing. And then that shared feeling that makes other people feel so good. But they think I must have them back in this space. It is that which gets you.

[00:08:08] The next job gets you. The first job gets you the jobs for the rest of your life. Because at the end of the day, there’s always going to be someone that is technically more talented. Let’s say maybe it’s, their technique is better. Maybe they just got that light. But they can have all of that. And if they don’t have the, the, the quality of character that makes people want to be around them, it won’t last, it’ll last for a little bit because there’s like, like, Oh, wow.

[00:08:35] And then ultimately, when you don’t nurture those relationships, it all crumbles. And I’ve just seen it so much. And I’ve seen so many underdogs. Become so successful because they show up with the right attitude that makes them , uh, go to higher because it’s like, wow, when they’re here, their impact is felt.

[00:08:57] And I think it’s just really important to remember that you’re just so much more than your steps. You know, you’re a human and the way that you interact as a human is what is going to determine how long you stay around and the, and the doors and opportunities that open for you. Because the reality is it’s not just like when you’re in that room, doing whatever job it may be , what, what what’s happening is they’re they’re, you know, branches to the tree.

[00:09:20] And so. All the there’s, there are multitude of other options. One of these that can come from that one thing that you couldn’t even Fatima understand we’re going to come because maybe the PA on set is thinking I’m going to direct a music video one day. And then they’re like, okay, I really liked that person following.

[00:09:36] I’m going to follow you. And then when they get the funds to do their project, bam, they reach out to you. And so it’s also important to remember it’s not an immediate return. These are things that can be five years, 10 years, 1520. Um, for me, for certain, there have been one of my favorite, I mean, most impacting , uh, in many ways jobs that I had came from , uh, something I did in 2006, that turned into the greatest, maybe a greatest accomplishment of my life in 2016.

[00:10:05] So it’s a decade later, the relationships that I nurtured in 2006, Turned out to be magic in 2016.

[00:10:13] Dane Reis: [00:10:13] Wow. Yeah. You’re so much more than your steps. Love that. And let’s dig into this next section here. And Chloe, of course, you’re an entertainer, I’m an entertainer. And I think that you’d agree that this industry. Can be one of the most subjective, brutally, honest, personally emotional industries in existence.

[00:10:37] And you know, you know, as well as I, that in order to create and have a successful career in this industry, like you’re having now, it takes a lot. Of dedication and hard work. And while yes, there is an outrageous amount of fun and excitement being an entertainer, doing what we do. There are also our fair share of obstacles, challenges, and failures that we are going to experience and we’re going to have to move forward through.

[00:10:59] So tell us, what is one key challenge, obstacle or failure you’ve experienced in your career and how did you come out the other side better because of it?

[00:11:08]Chloe Arnold: [00:11:08] well, I would say it’s it’s um, I would say it’s more like, uh, when I was in college, I went to. College at Columbia university in New York city. And while I was there, I was training rigorously and Dan in the city because there was just, you know, so much to offer. But simultaneously I was looking at all of the job opportunities in New York, and I really couldn’t find any, any shows where I would look at it and go, ah, I want to be in that show because there’s a role that, that I’ve definitely.

[00:11:40] Match. Right. And I would, but I would look at everything and nothing actually fit my skillset. My look, my style, et cetera. And I was just like, Oh my goodness. Like this show is all guys. Okay. This show is five foot seven women. Okay.   Or this show is, you know, if you want to be in it, there’s , um, the, the skillset.

[00:12:03]Uh, for tap was a much more basic skillset than what I had. And so it was difficult because I just didn’t see a place for me. So that was a really pivotal time for me to say, I could have said, there’s no job opportunity. What am I going to do? Right. Like, how am I going to make money? This, maybe this field isn’t for me.

[00:12:21] And instead , um, I had, I had this resolve. I remember having this resolve after I didn’t get picked for some audition in New York. And I said to myself, I have to create it. It doesn’t exist. I have to create it. And that was the pivotal point at which I started to no longer wait for other people to , uh, Greenlight me or to say I was good enough or to, you know, define my worth.

[00:12:49] And I started to really create for myself. And it was uh, , uh, it was , uh, all very magical. Um, time, because when I graduated, Debbie Allen had invited me to LA and she said, I thought you’ll do better. I think you’ll do better here. And I really didn’t know the LA industry, but I was like, if she’s advising me, I’m out.

[00:13:05] And so I packed my bags and one September day, and I just flew to LA and I started my life here. And with having Debbie Allen as my mentor , Uh, it was incredible because she infused this idea further of how I could truly carve out my own path. And she believed in it before it even existed or was even near near fruition.

[00:13:29]I mean, it was so not real to me, but I was like, because she’s thought also I thought. We’re going to get it done. I don’t know how, but it’s happening. And so she gave me free space to create, and that in 2003, I created a syncopated ladies and half of, most of those women were girls. They were 11, 12, 14, 15.

[00:13:50] And I just said, Hey ladies, I think we have something here. Let’s try. And that’s what we did.

[00:13:56]Dane Reis: [00:13:56] Oh, that is so cool. I love that journey. And then taking control of your own work, your own art, your own creativity, and. Not like you said, not waiting for someone to Greenlight me. I think that’s so good because we can be so discouraging if things just aren’t working for you, or if you are looking in, like you said, looking at a, at a market and saying, Oh, there’s not really anything.

[00:14:22] That’s really inspiring me, nothing. I really feel driven to be a part of. And it’s amazing what you’ve done and you’ve created such a, created something for yourself and it’s so fulfilling in it just checks all the boxes. It’s amazing.

[00:14:37]Chloe Arnold: [00:14:37] Thank you. I just am so appreciative. I just, I think that’s the other thing I would share with dancers and you know, this is just human humans, anyone on the planet, if you, if you live with gratitude. Even the toughest days have light because you will still find the light. You’ll find that, which is so hard to find something times where you’re like, ah, I feel like I’m failing.

[00:15:01] I realize it’s not happening, but if you can still simplify things, to be able to say, I woke up today or wow, I took a hot shower or, you know, um, I love this song and you play it loudly and you dance around. If you can find. The little things to be grateful for them. They start to pile up so much that they over shine, whatever it is that that is your obstacle.

[00:15:23]Dane Reis: [00:15:23] Ah, such great advice, insight for life. Thank you for that. So good. And let’s move on to a time that I like to call your spotlight moment. That one moment in time you realized, yes, I am going to be an entertainer for or living, or maybe it was, yes, this is what I need to be doing in the entertainment industry.

[00:15:50] Tell us about that.

[00:15:51]Chloe Arnold: [00:15:51] Ooh. I have so many spotlight moments based around the phases of my life, but if I go to childhood , um, I auditioned and when I was , uh, Levon. Years old? Um, no, it was 10 years old. I, I auditioned for this big show that had tapped dance in it and I was going to end it, but it was with all the legends, but there was a youth component to it.

[00:16:11] And , uh, it was like the Nicholas brothers were in the show and Gregory Hines and it was, it was a incredible roster of people. And , um, my teacher at the time, Told my mom that I was not ready for this audition and discouraged me from going. And I remember my mom saying, I don’t care if you go in there and don’t hit a single step, you’re going to go try, because this is about, this is what the learning processes.

[00:16:41] So I went in, I tried this audition and I ended up getting it and that. That performance put me on stage with, as a youth performer with tap with literally the greatest tap dancers alive at that time. And then from that, the Washington performing arts society event created like a field trip to New York and we got to go to New York and we’ve got to see Jelly’s last jam on Broadway.

[00:17:06] And we got to perform and Frank hatchets Broadway showcase. And so this one little audition that, you know, my teacher kind of just brushed off and was like, no, not for you by way of my mom. Just saying, give it a try. Doesn’t mean, you know, there’s no guarantees, give it a try, turned into me, solidifying what I knew I wanted to do for the rest of them.

[00:17:29] Dane Reis: [00:17:29] ah, such a good story and a great lesson as well, because sometimes we can get into that. Uh, what would you call it? Kind of Kind of a, , getting ready to get ready. Is that right? It sounds right. Or the it’s analysis paralysis kind of things like you’re not, Oh, you’re not always going to be ready.

[00:17:47] All you’re almost never going to feel. I feel

[00:17:50] Chloe Arnold: [00:17:50] I was going to say

[00:17:51] Dane Reis: [00:17:51] You just got to go do it. See what happens. You don’t know the future. No one knows what things are gonna, you don’t know what they’re looking for. So put yourself out there and then learn from that experience. Don’t cut yourself short.

[00:18:02]Chloe Arnold: [00:18:02] Yes, I have another avid great audition story. So I went to audition for Beyonce in 2006 and , uh, it was a big thing she was doing and I went and there were thousands. You know how it is. Cattle call of, of dancers is Beyonce. Everybody’s coming and we’re in LA. And I actually made it down to the final round.

[00:18:25] And this is doing, you know, Beyonce style dancing. Right. And I was just so proud of myself, but I got into that final. Round. And then they had a freestyle section and I had hidden my tap shoes in the corner of the room because I like, I, that was my thing. I was like, one of y’all is going to put, tap into this landscape because I wanted to see tap in the pop world.

[00:18:46] So freestyle section comes. I ran through all my tap shoes and I hop in the circle and they’re like, Whoa. You know, and at the end, the choreographer was really kind Frank Gatson. He was really kind. And he was like, that’s amazing. We’re not looking for that, but that’s amazing. And I remember I left that audition so proud of myself because I showed up as myself and I gave my all, and I knew I wasn’t going to book it.

[00:19:12] But in my car ride, I literally was, couldn’t have been a happier human because I wasn’t afraid to show up as me. And, and, and from there I might head in my head as I was driving. I was like, I’m not getting this job, but I’m definitely going to work with Beyonce and I could feel it in my spirit. And within several months of that, I was, I found myself by way of my friend from college.

[00:19:38] Who was directing a Beyonce music video onset with Beyonce.

[00:19:43] Dane Reis: [00:19:43] Whoa. Very cool. Whoa. I love that.

[00:19:48] Chloe Arnold: [00:19:48] The power of thought, you know, and like feeling proud of who you are. And so the interesting thing is in 2006, when I got to work with Beyonce several times, I was not tap dancing, but then in 2013, they called me again.

[00:20:03] I still was not tap dancing in 2016 is when we got to tap dance and perform for Beyonce, tap dancing. And that for me was that difference of 2006, planting a seed and 2016, seeing it come to life.

[00:20:22]Dane Reis: [00:20:22] beautiful. And I guess with that, let’s talk about, I’m assuming that’s your number one. Booked it moment.

[00:20:28] Chloe Arnold: [00:20:28] Yes.

[00:20:29] Dane Reis: [00:20:29] Beautiful. What can you just dig into some detail a little bit more? I know you’ve talked about it a little bit , uh, but talk about more detail about how that whole. Experience came to fruition that all the auditions, any callbacks, any, anything that journey getting to that, that huge number one booked at moment.

[00:20:47]Chloe Arnold: [00:20:47] Yes. Well, so like I said, I did that audition and I didn’t get it. And I was thinking, man, I’m gonna get it though. I’m gonna get it. And so, um, a friend of mine, my actual film partner from college. Uh, she had become a successful music video director. And so I would freelance assist her on sets. And so it was incredible because I got to , um, Learn.

[00:21:09] How do you produce and direct a music video of high quality, right. With pop stars. And then, so that was amazing. And so one day she called me and she said, Chloe, what are you doing tomorrow? I said, whatever, what are we doing? And she said, we’re doing Beyonce. And so it was incredible because now I was going to be on the backend, working to make the Beyonce vision, come to life.

[00:21:32] And I thought all I was going to be doing was that , well, it turned out we were on set and in a matter of moments, they threw me into the, into the music video and I had to learn choreography onset. And that was my audition. Honestly, like in that moment, could I pull up on screen with no actual, you know, rehearsal?

[00:21:53] In the immediate and thank God I did because that, when I say that was the audition, I did a great job. And so then they hired me again and then , uh, I did a great job and then there was nothing similar to what we were doing for a couple years. But then in 2013 they reached back out and said, Hey, Chloe, didn’t you work with us on this?

[00:22:12] And this we’d love to have you back. And then I had to send in some photos and send in a dance that I had pre-taped that they had, they sent me the dance that they wanted me to learn. I practiced it, put it on tape, send it back. And now then I ended up doing , um, Beyonce, Pepsi, commercial, and Beyonce, H and M commercials. And then from that , well, right from, from those experiences, I was so moved by everything I’d learned from Beyonce that I thought I want to thank her. How can I think this woman from like a deeper place. And so I got syncopated ladies together and we did what we call it. A Beyonce task salute was, which was really a thank you note to her by way of me creating a tap dance to one of her songs that just said , like, I love you and you’ve changed my life.

[00:23:01] And , uh, I didn’t think she was going to see it, but she did. And then she shared it on her platform and that was the catalyst. For everything great. That has happened with syncopated ladies. Uh, we ended up Paula Abdul saw it. She sent it to Nigel Lithgow. I, we ended up on, so you think you can dance. And then we ended up selling out our own tours and it was it.

[00:23:21] I call it the Beyonce effect, her support and her love. Transformed our lives. And then we just continued to meet. Yeah. I don’t know if you know that we continue to make work and just do what we were doing. And so that was 2013 when she shared it. The first time our tap salute to her in 2016, I had a , um, She, she had done formation.

[00:23:44] I’ll never forget this. I was sitting in the living room of a friend of mine in some extravagant skyscraper in LA, and there aren’t many skyscrapers here, but this one was something special and there was a massive TV and they play the formation video was the first time I saw it as I’m watching my cousin who lives in Chicago, sends me a message.

[00:24:05] Yeah are getting information, right? I’m like, absolutely. And immediately I called St. Lady’s to the studio and within like two hours, I created this video because I felt it like in my bones created our tap formation. And so I put it out there and I honestly, again, didn’t think Beyonce would see it or, or even share it because she’d already done, done such a huge favor for us, you know, it’s huge, huge act of kindness.

[00:24:28]Well, this time she didn’t just share it. She made it the homepage of So when you went to, it was our photo and it said, press play. And it was our video and she left it there for several weeks. And that was the, that was when everything I’d imagined from when I first met her in 2006.

[00:24:53] And I said to her, no, she said to me, Oh, you’re a tap dancer. Right. And I said, yes, she was like, I never really tapped, but I’d love to learn one day. And that was the seed planted of us, of this tech and Beyonce imagination. Right. And then 2016, she then after that hired us to fly to London and perform to launch her , um, Ivy park clothing line.

[00:25:19] And it was just the greatest full circle. Of again, all of this started from an audition I didn’t get. That is the key to this story is from an audition that I didn’t book. And then a 10 year journey of self-actualization self-confidence self worth gratitude and imagination.

[00:25:42]Dane Reis: [00:25:42] what an incredible journey. Not only is it a fantastic story to tell and listen to, but also the. Lessons to learn and what we can take from that. Wow. So good. I would encourage everyone to rewind that real quick relisten to that and pick all those little caveats up. Wow. So good. Thank you.

[00:26:04] Chloe Arnold: [00:26:04] Thank you. I haven’t told that in a long time. It was, I was, I was just telling you I was picturing and I was like, Oh my gosh. I just remember. The amount of, you know, this is for every dancer, we go through so many feelings as we’re going through something and creating it of like, you know, the questions of like, am I going to make it and you know, the fear and then overcoming the fear and then going forward and then no one sees it.

[00:26:26] And then, you know, it’s, it’s, it is. So there are so many things and I would just say the most important thing is staying on purpose. If you just stick with your purpose. You know, the, the audience comes at some point, you know, at some point, and again, my, one of my favorite teachers, he always says, there’s a stage for everyone.

[00:26:45]And so you just have to figure out what that is for you, you know? Um, and it’s not that one stage is better than another stage. It’s really about what is in your spirit and how you want to share what you, what you’re creating.

[00:26:55]Dane Reis: [00:26:55] yeah, yeah, absolutely. Let’s take a moment to talk about the present. What projects are you working on now? What are you looking forward to? And Hey, it’s a kind of a weird time, right? It’s this global pandemic. How do you see the entertainment industry moving forward in the next couple of years?

[00:27:14]Chloe Arnold: [00:27:14] Right. Well, first of all, I’m very thankful. Uh, this 2020 was quite challenging for everyone in our field and it continues to be, as the world is mostly shut down , um, especially the cross country traveling. Um, and so, you know, for me, my syncopated ladies, last year, we actually had a 30 city tour already scheduled and routed for us to be honestly, some of the first women to.

[00:27:43] Executive producer attached show. And we were so excited and this was going to be so massive and then bam, everything canceled the entire tour canceled. And it was really jolting because it’s not just the money, it’s the dream. Right? So that was one thing. And then, you know, At that time in the beginning, early stages, television industry shut down , uh, where I was going from choreographing, tons of TV shows episodes, you know, a year to I did in 2020.

[00:28:09] I only did like maybe six days on set after the shutdown after the second. And then , um, you know, I was doing convention teaching dance to hundreds and thousands of amazing dancers. Not happening all of that canceled. So literally all my sources of income went to zero. So my sister and I mod Arnold, we had to pivot.

[00:28:32]Reshape our possibility. And so we took this online space that we’d already been thriving in, in terms of creatively , uh, to start producing dance events online because we already had been doing that in person. And we were scheduled to have the DC tap Fest and then bam one within 10 days. It was canceled and we had to reschedule and we did it virtually, and that proved to be a big hit.

[00:29:00] And so over the year we did four massive events online to keep the world connected and to educate and to uplift. And that was incredible. And during that time also, I was able to sit down and really , um, start to develop many of our own ideas. So the things to look forward to in the future, For my sister and I as co-producers is that we’re working to develop content for television and film. Also, we’re writing a book right now. We’re also , uh,furthering the online educational programming that we have. So we already have done a lot, but we’re going to actually truly build it to where it just always exists because why not be able to tack with folks in Australia, right. That wouldn’t, we wouldn’t have done that without this pandemic saying halt. How can we connect online? Right. It would’ve, Right. It would’ve, it would’ve taken me flying across the world to make that happen. So, um, and, and then fun news. I can’t say what it is, but I am slated to choreograph of a movie musical. 

[00:30:00] Dane Reis: [00:30:00] Ooh.

[00:30:01] Ooh.

[00:30:01] Chloe Arnold: [00:30:01] yeah, this year , um, we’ll probably start production mid March and go for the, almost the whole year.

[00:30:07] It’s a big project. It is , um, incredible. A-listers I am beyond honored. And it’s a beautiful new chapter , uh, in this incredible journey. And I’m just thankful that 2020 didn’t crush my spirit or my work. And I just , um, send love to anyone who found this, this period. And it is in this period where it’s feeling helpless to try to find the silver lining and then magnify it because ultimately , um, We, we, we only have two choices, right?

[00:30:38] We let it defeat us or we get stronger and we innovate and I encourage everyone to try to find that inner light and strength and innovate. And that goes back to team. Right. Going back to the beginning of this conversation, your relationships in your team, who are you around? That’s encouraging you, who are you around?

[00:30:56] That’s making it feel darker. Make sure you select your , uh, your team very wisely so that you’re utilizing the time to lift yourself up..

[00:31:07]Dane Reis: [00:31:07] Aw, so good. Very much looking forward to those projects when they start coming out. Uh, and keep me posted about all of that, but wow. Again, such great advice. So good. I’m loving this interview. Thank you. 

[00:31:21] Chloe Arnold: [00:31:21] Thank you, me too.

[00:31:22] Dane Reis: [00:31:22] yeah, it is time now to move on to one of my favorite sections in the interview. I call it the grease lightning around.

[00:31:30] Hi, I am going to ask you a handful of questions. I want you to answer them as quickly and concisely as possible after another. Are you ready?

[00:31:39]Chloe Arnold: [00:31:39] I’m ready.

[00:31:40] Dane Reis: [00:31:40] All right. First question. What was the one thing holding you back from committing to a career as an entertainer? Yeah. Second question. What is the best piece of advice you have ever received?

[00:31:52]Chloe Arnold: [00:31:52] If it doesn’t exist, create it

[00:31:55] Dane Reis: [00:31:55] Oh, so good. Good third question. What is something that is working for you right now? Or if you’d like to go pre COVID, what was working for you before our industry went on? Pause.

[00:32:06]Chloe Arnold: [00:32:06] innovative , uh, online creative content.

[00:32:08] Dane Reis: [00:32:08] Hmm, Hmm, question. What is your best resource? Whether that is a book, a movie, maybe a YouTube video, a podcast, or a piece of technology you found is helping your career right now.

[00:32:21]Chloe Arnold: [00:32:21] Mm, well, this is a person it’s Debbie Allen and it’s because she lives in my thoughts. And that is how I deal with everything that I’m. Going through life, you know, her, which her advice lives in my thoughts,

[00:32:36] Dane Reis: [00:32:36] Oh, so wonderful. And the fifth question. If you had to start your career from scratch, but you still had all the knowledge and experience you’ve collected from your career in this industry, what would you do or not do? Would you do anything differently or would you keep it?

[00:32:53]Chloe Arnold: [00:32:53] I would add. All of those styles of training sooner. And I would add singing and acting to that

[00:33:02]Dane Reis: [00:33:02] There we

[00:33:03] Chloe Arnold: [00:33:03] early young. 

[00:33:04] Dane Reis: [00:33:04] Yeah. And the last question, what is the golden nugget knowledge drop you’ve learned from your successful, from your successful career in this industry? You’d like to leave with our listeners.

[00:33:16]Chloe Arnold: [00:33:16] I would say faith over fear. And when I say faith, it’s Not using it religiously more. So the belief in yourself that it’s so, so strong that no matter how scared you get you place your belief over the fear and you go for it.

[00:33:31] Dane Reis: [00:33:31] So good to wrap up this interview, Chloe, it is time to give yourself a plug. Where can we find you? How do our listeners connect with you? Is there anything you want to promote?

[00:33:45]Chloe Arnold: [00:33:45] yes. So please follow me on Instagram at Chloe Arnold taps, or you can also subscribe to my mailing and we have so many exciting tap events. Happening online right now and on into the future. And we also have a youth company that’s worldwide, so you can audition to be a part. So all of this amazing information is on my website.

[00:34:10]Um, and you can email from more questions with more questions, but I just truly look forward to dancing with everyone and just building this global community of dance.

[00:34:19]Dane Reis: [00:34:19] beautiful. And for everyone listening out there, I’ve put the links to everything. Chloe just said into the description of this episode. So you can easily connect with her and also be sure to share this podcast with your fellow entertainers, coaches, teachers, arts, and entertainment educators, and anyone, you know, you know, aspiring to create a career in.

[00:34:41] The entertainment industry you booked. It is the number one resource of expertise on how to actually create a successful entertainment career case in point, every bit of gold that Chloe just dropped today. If you enjoyed this episode, hit that subscribe button. So you don’t miss the next one, Chloe. Thank you so much for being here.

[00:35:03] I had a fantastic time speaking with you today. Thank you.

[00:35:07]Chloe Arnold: [00:35:07] Thank you so much. Really an honor. And I’m just thankful to be a part of this platform that is encouraging and inspiring everyone to go for their dreams.