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EP 195: Logan Rando (autogenerated)

Dane Reis: [00:00:00] You booked it. Episode 195. Okay, let’s get this thing started. I am excited to introduce my guest today. Logan Rondo, are you ready for this Logan? 

[00:00:16]Logan Rando: [00:00:16] Hey, Dane, how you

[00:00:17] doing? Yeah, I’m ready.

[00:00:18] Dane Reis: [00:00:18] All right. Logan is a filmmaker writer, voice actor, and video editor based in the capital region of upstate New York. Logan began by bringing his original stories to life in the summer of 2017 with his director.

[00:00:32] Tori will debut hollow road, a 40 minute horror thriller, where they’re capturing the raw emotion of an event or crafting dramatic stories through narrative fiction. Logan believes that film is the perfect medium for telling stories. You can feel Logan. That is a quick intro of who you are and what you’ve done, but why don’t you tell us a little bit more about yourself, fill in the gaps and a little bit more about what you do as a professional in the entertainment industry.

[00:01:02]Logan Rando: [00:01:02] Sure thing. So, um, I have a little bit of a bizarre path to where I am today. Um, I grew up thinking I was going to be a doctor or a scientist or something within, you know, the , uh, the STEM community. So, uh, believe it or not, I went to school for biology and , um, Yeah, I kind of had a hard time finding something that was fulfilling.

[00:01:23] So after school, I got a job within the medical industry doing sales and marketing, and I just absolutely hated it from day one. But unfortunately at that time in my life, I was in my early twenties. I’m 30. Now at that time, I just. Was really bad at listening to my gut. And I sort of out logic to myself, into sticking with that job for a few years.

[00:01:43] So several years since that job, I just couldn’t really take it anymore. And I thought, all right, I got to start at the very least finding some hobbies that I find fulfilling and exciting. So I started studying voiceover and , um, one of the first things they tell you when you’re studying voiceover is , well, you got to learn to be a good actor.

[00:01:59] So go take some acting classes. I took some acting classes, some in-person classes , um, and. One thing led to another, and I was doing some student films to kind of build up a real cause I wanted to do bigger, better projects. So, um, on some of these student film sets, I was just watching people, just soaking things up like a sponge and it kind of  , uh, sort of demystified the whole filmmaking process to me , uh, that the production side of things, at least.

[00:02:22] So I guess I was naive enough back then to think, Oh yeah, I could do this. So I watched some YouTube videos , uh, studied the camera, the basic settings and went out and put together a small ragtag

[00:02:34] crew. And Nate holler wrote my first movie. 

[00:02:36]Dane Reis: [00:02:36] Hey, very cool. I like that. I, when I started in this path of the entertainment industry, as well, I did start to allow is 17 and a half, 18 years old. And even before that, my whole plan was to go into medicine to be like an ER doc or something like this. That was everything that I had done in school up to that point was all directed in That vein and then life did some crazy things. And I thought, you know what? Singing and dancing sounds a way more fun. Uh, Uh, and I think it is, I’ve had a fantastic career because of it. So, very cool  to hear that you  had a similar experience as well, but let’s. Dig into uh, , uh, this first section here and Logan, look, I am a sucker for a good quote.

[00:03:25] What is your favorite quote you’d like to share with everyone?

[00:03:28]Logan Rando: [00:03:28] So I, I have to preface this by the fact that I’m not, I’m not super big on quotes. Cause I think sometimes they tend to oversimplify things like, you know, you know, on social media, you see people post quotes all the time 

[00:03:37] and you know, they’re, they’re usually a little bit of beautiful , um, you know, pros, but. It’s always missing sort of the caveats, like for example, to give you one example of what I’m getting at, like a common thing you hear is like follow your dreams, which now I totally buy into.

[00:03:53] But as a kids studying, you know, to be conventionally successful, I didn’t buy that at all, but I think what that leaves out is follow your dreams, but be prepared to make major sacrifices and possibly give up. You know, some conventional forms of happiness. That being said , um, one that I really, really like that has stuck with me has to do with execution, which I think is just everything.

[00:04:15] And that quote is. The best thing you can do is the right thing. The second best thing you can do is the wrong thing. And the worst thing you can do is nothing. And I kind of try and live by that with my film and video career, because you know, a a lot of times as artists and creators, we can get in our own heads, we can postpone execution because, ah, it’s not perfect.

[00:04:41]Uh, all the pieces are in place, but. Well, like, it’s never going to be perfect. You’re never going to have all the budget you need. You’re never going to have all the skills you need. You’re never going to have all the resources you need done is better than, you know, not started in my opinion. So I try to really push myself to like execute above all else.

[00:04:57] And if I’m learning something new, just kind of get out of that learning stage as quick as possible and start doing. Cause I’m sort of a ready fire aim

[00:05:04] type of guy. I like to learn as I’m doing. 

[00:05:06] Dane Reis: [00:05:06] yeah, for sure. And it’s you’re right. It’s so easy for us to get into , uh, what is it? Robert Kiyosaki’s analysis paralysis, right? Where we just. Overthink everything right. And we just never started. We always put it off and we put it off. And the fact is like you said, you never have enough budget. You never have all the answers to everything.

[00:05:26] And the crazy part is, is that as you start down the journey, The only thing you’re going to find are more questions and more things that you don’t know, but that’s kind of the exciting part, right? You have to get into the habit of moving forward, stepping beyond your comfort zone and just saying, you know, you know, let’s just take this one step and , uh, figure it out.

[00:05:45] Oh, there’s something else. I don’t know. But that’s how you compile expertise. That’s how you become anything, right. right. Is to consistently be pushing yourself into the unknown.

[00:05:54] Logan Rando: [00:05:54] And it’s interesting. You bring that point up about the , uh, you know, discovering that, Oh, I don’t know this and Oh, this is learning process. Um, I recently learned about this sort of like psychological phenomenon. I forget what it’s called , uh, pardon me for not knowing it, but , uh, to describe it when you’re learning a new skill or something, there’s sort of sort of this.

[00:06:11]Um, graph of your level of confidence versus what you actually know. And psychologists say that when most people are learning something in the beginning, when they’re in that early stage, where like every day they’re learning a ton of new information, your confidence in your craft grows very, very quickly.

[00:06:29] And when you accumulate. A certain amount of knowledge where you’re starting to hit a little bit of a diminishing return on that. That’s where your confidence goes down because you realize that, you know, let’s say after like a year or two or half a year of learning something, you realize you actually don’t know that much compared to the people that have been doing it forever.

[00:06:49]Um, so it’s, it’s an interesting kind of roller coaster. That’s kind of where I’m at right now with film in the beginning, you know, I progressed so fast from like my first movie to my third movie. And now, you know, probably several dozen video film documentary projects in , uh, about four years later, it’s like, Oh man, I have like a ton left to learn.

[00:07:08]I mean, I’m going to be a student for life. So it’s always a journey of learning.

[00:07:12] Dane Reis: [00:07:12] yeah, a hundred percent. And I think that that explanation of confidence , uh, and competence is, is really interesting. I think that also, maybe very closely linked to impostor syndrome where, and you see, you know, Like, so you go to an audition, right? And you see a bunch of 18 year olds, 17 year olds, 20 year olds, even there in the room and just giving it all so confident.

[00:07:35] And it’s not to say they don’t know anything about the industry or anything like that. It’s just that they’re. Their relationship with the industry is often fresher and newer and there’s more energy behind it. And it’s, once you start, once people start having careers, I started building a career that’s been successful that has allowed them to live a good life with the income they’re able to generate through their art.

[00:07:56] That’s when things, we all, I think experience has been, we go, hold on. Like I, what am I, why would you pick me? Like. Because now you’ve see this industry through a different lens. Right. Right. And you see all the things that you’re like, wow, there’s so much talent in the world. There’s so many people that can do so many things.

[00:08:13] What’s so good about me. Right. And it’s certainly a balancing act, but I think that that’s a really interesting , uh, graph that you explained really interesting. 

[00:08:21] Logan Rando: [00:08:21] Yeah.

[00:08:22] I’ll have to look up what the, the psychological phenomenon , uh, is actually called. But , um, I think for people like you and I, especially , um, we’re extra prone to imposter syndrome because we had to reinvent ourselves at a certain stage of our life. And of course it’s never too late, but no matter when you do it, you sort of have to rewire your brain.

[00:08:39] And there comes a time when you have to jump that hurdle. Of going from, Oh, this is a hobby to, no, I am an, you know, a painter or a filmmaker. And I remember distinctly when I started, you know, just in like my email signature or, you know, meeting new people , telling, telling folks that, yeah, I’m a filmmaker.

[00:08:55] Something kind clicked in my brain. And I mean, I, I suffered from imposter syndrome so much. I made a whole film about it. So, um, I, I do remember though, when I started to rewire my brain and acknowledge that, no, this is me. This is who I am. You know, big things kind of happen. So competence is a big part of it,

[00:09:09] but it’s hard to, to grow that. 

[00:09:11] Dane Reis: [00:09:11] Yeah, but I think having the data and knowing that this is actually a thing that has been scientifically tested also to me, gives me a little bit of comfort in realizing, Hey, we’re all in this together. We’re all in the same boat. 

[00:09:25]Logan Rando: [00:09:25] absolutely. 

[00:09:26] Dane Reis: [00:09:26] Very cool. Well, Well, let’s get into this next section here. And Logan, of course you are an entertainment professional, I’m an entertainment professional.

[00:09:35] And I think that you would agree that this industry can be one of the most subjective, brutally, honest and personally emotional industries in existence. And you know, you know, as well as I, that in order to create and have a successful career in this industry, like you’re having now takes a lot. Of dedication and hard work and while yup.

[00:09:56] There is an outrageous amount of fun and excitement doing what we do. There are also our fair share of obstacles, challenges, and failures. We are going to experience and we’re going to have to move forward through. So tell us, what is one key challenge, obstacle or failure you’ve experienced in your career and how did you come out the other side better because of it.

[00:10:19]Logan Rando: [00:10:19] Oh, that’s a really good question because I mean, when you’re just getting started, you’re facing obstacles left and right. And. Those don’t necessarily go away. It’s just, you become better equipped , uh, to deal with them and you begin to expect certain obstacles. So they’re more easy to surmount, but in the beginning, I would say , uh, the biggest obstacle and the biggest mistake I made as a filmmaker is thinking I could do, you know, everything thinking I could wear 20 different hats at once.

[00:10:44] And. As an indie filmmaker in the beginning and by necessity, sometimes you do have to wear 10 hats. And I did that, that first film I made , uh, we made it in three days, you know, crew of three people. I directed, I started, I wrote, I edited , uh, sometimes I was doing sound when I wasn’t on camera and that’s great for the learning process, but , um, I tend to be such an introverted, like.

[00:11:03]Solitary person. It was really hard for me to put myself out there, I suppose, and, you know, put together a team of people who are better than I am in certain aspects, because, you know, in the end film is collaborative. There’s no getting around that. So that was a really big challenge for me because I don’t like being held back by factors. Outside of my own mind. And, you know, with my first few movies I could get by just, just doing them. Um, you know, we’re in 20 different hats, but when I wanted to up the production value and up to deliverable, I realized, okay, I need to put together a team. And the obstacle for me to put it simply was overcoming. my patients, you know, you know, waiting to put together that team and waiting to get all the , uh, the pawns in place so that I can execute in a way that , um, you know, depending on where I was at at that point in my journey was matching what I wanted to deliver on because every project I do, you know, I want it to look better.

[00:11:59] I want it to sound better. I want it to be a better story. I want a better performance. And several years later, Of working on that. Um, I’m happy to say that , um, you know, this year I’ve gotten to work with a bunch of great creators, so collaboration has done nothing but help me, but believe it or not, it as an obstacle I had to, to, to get over and it’s only made my

[00:12:17] filmmaking better.

[00:12:18]Dane Reis: [00:12:18] Yeah, of course. And there’s, there’s something to be said about realizing and admitting, look, I’m not the best at this thing. I can do it. Sure I can run sound, but it sounds not really my thing. And to admit that to yourself and then to go, okay, who is better than me? Who can I trust, who also gets on board creatively and sees the vision of the project?

[00:12:40] There’s a lot of moving parts there, you know, and it would vary from project to project. I can imagine as well.

[00:12:45] Logan Rando: [00:12:45] Sure. And with , um, you know, I guess really any discipline and field , um, you know, you’re really only as good as the people you surround yourself. So, So, um, I was very fortunate in the beginning to have really good friends who helped me out with all my projects, but, you know, they have other careers, they have other interests and I worked those guys to the bones, so I had to, you know, tell myself, okay, these guys are.

[00:13:06] Being really, really helpful and donating so much of their time, talent, and energy, but but you know, they’re not in this like you do. And that was a little bit hard for me to see in the beginning. I was, I think in my head, I was like, how can anybody on the planet not want to do this, you know, for 40 hours a week.

[00:13:20] So it was about finding folks that were just as passionate about film and storytelling as myself, and then getting everybody

[00:13:27] together on the same project. 

[00:13:29] Dane Reis: [00:13:29] Yes. Yes. For sure. Well, Well, let’s move on to a time that I like to call your spotlight moment. That one moment in time you realized, yes, I am going to be an entertainer for a living or maybe it was yes. This is what I need to be doing in the entertainment industry. Tell us about that.

[00:13:52]Logan Rando: [00:13:52] I’d have to say really just. My first few projects, I had a billion aha moments. I guess, if, if we want to get specific where it’s like, Oh, this is what you should be doing for life. It was when I experienced certain feelings that I hadn’t felt when I was a child. One of the reasons I got into film in the first place was I thought to myself, okay, you need to go back to when you were a kid and see what made you happy.

[00:14:16] And for me, it w it was like drawing creative things. So I said, all right, let’s pursue something creative. And when I was on my first set hollow road, it was shot on a sheep farm. It was like in the summer three days, 90 degrees, super, super hot. And I was also doing a lot of stage acting at the time. So I remember getting to the farm super early, maybe like 7:30 AM running around doing action scenes, going back and forth behind camera and then hopping in my car to go to an audition for the play , uh, ML years Tartufo and getting the part.

[00:14:51] And then going back to the farm and filming until, you know, two in the morning and then getting in my car to drive back home. Uh, for a 30 minute drive and being like, man, I can’t wait to do this again. That was a moment for me where I was like, wow, I haven’t felt this in so long. I am totally meant to do this in every single project video.

[00:15:10] I do, no matter how small they are always reaffirms that for me. So I just chased that feeling

[00:15:16] constantly. And it’s what keeps me hustling. 

[00:15:19] Dane Reis: [00:15:19] yes. Love that. Well, let’s piggyback on that real quick. And let’s talk about your number one, book it moment. Walk us through that day. What was going on in your life? And what about that moment? Makes it your favorite book moment.

[00:15:36]Logan Rando: [00:15:36] So, uh, a really pivotal point in my career was when I linked up with , uh, an artist who is based in Germany that I really admire and um, To , um, To to, Oh, I guess so oversimplify, what this person does is there is a art form called Aqua scaping. And what it is is it’s underwater nature, aquarium design. So it’s aquariums, like you’ve never seen in your life, real plants, you know, beautiful small schools of fish, you know, mountain like landscapes.

[00:16:03]Uh, it’s, it’s beautiful. It was popularized by this Japanese artists, . Takashi Amano any who? This is something I’d been doing as a hobby for a long time while I was filmmaking. And one day I was watching a YouTube video and it was a video with this creator, this German creator that I admired.

[00:16:19] And in the video, he had mentioned that I want to get into. Producing YouTube videos regularly, but I’m looking for an editor. And I remember I was eating lunch. I was eating vegetables, fish, rice, and I stopped what I was doing. I put my fork down. I sent them a direct message on Instagram right then and there.

[00:16:38] And. I’d been working with him ever since on creating video content and we’ve grown the subscriber count. I think when I joined up, he had about 4,000 subscribers. I believe we’re at about 80,000 subscribers. Now I went over to, before the pandemic, I went over to Europe and shot with him in person. We went to Belgium, Germany, Hungary, all because of that little moment of me, you know, seeing something I wanted while.

[00:17:05]You know, eating lunch and just stopping what I was doing and saying, Hey, you know, maybe he’ll see my message. And it kinda, it has changed my trajectory in a lot of

[00:17:12] ways. So yeah , that, that, that’s a big

[00:17:14] one for me.

[00:17:15] Dane Reis: [00:17:15] Oh, that is so cool. And I. I love the power of technology. I mean, I mean, the fact that we right now are doing this across zoom, right. That’s amazing. And we’re different parts of the world. And then on top of that, I mean, look, social media and things like that. They have they’re downsizing their negatives, but if you leverage them for what, all the good that it can bring my goodness, it is way cool.

[00:17:38]I mean, think. You know, a decade ago that probably wouldn’t have happened, you know, connecting with someone like that was just being able to send a DM. The accessibility we have to people is just amazing to me.

[00:17:48]Logan Rando: [00:17:48] Yes, so cool. And all the information, you know, literally at the tip of our fingers, I mean, I mean, w without the internet and without YouTube, I wouldn’t have been able to learn how to use a camera. Um, because at the time I wasn’t making very much money. I don’t think I could have afforded private lessons. And I learned everything for free on YouTube.

[00:18:04] So like you said , uh, you know, it’s really how you use social media and stuff. You’re really able to curate your own feeds. So if you want to avoid the negativity, you know, you can cure it, curate a positive experience. And that’s what I try to do. I really just follow artists and people that, you know, enrich

[00:18:20] my feed and bring value to my life.

[00:18:22] Dane Reis: [00:18:22] Oh, so good. Well, let’s take a moment to talk about the present. What projects are you working on now? What are you looking forward to? And Hey, we’re still a bit this global pandemic. How do you see the entertainment and film industry moving forward in the next couple of years?

[00:18:40]Logan Rando: [00:18:40] So I’m thankful to say that , uh, despite the pandemic I have not lost any work, it’s just been a matter of, you know, adapting and doing things safely. Um, but currently I’m working on some really exciting projects. Um, so I’m based in upstate New York , uh, the capital, which is Albany. And , uh, just last week I drove out a few hours and I shot a video out in nature with a native American botanist, who is a professor at SUNY environmental school of forestry.

[00:19:09] And we kind of just went out in the woods and she talks a lot about her philosophy with plants and ecology. So once again, it was a really cool way of combining. You know, my past love of science. And even though I don’t do it for a living, I’m still passionate about science with films. So I’ve been editing that video for the university of Kansas , um, for the past couple of weeks.

[00:19:30]Uh, and that’s been really cool. Um, and then my big narrative project is coming right up. Um, we’ve been in preproduction for it for a few months now. And that’s called if I could tell you, and this film tells the story about a young girl in her mid twenties who lost her mom to terminal cancer. And, you know, rather than focusing on.

[00:19:50]The story of the loss itself and the grieving process. It’s about the healing process. And , uh, it’s about a 20 minute short and we’re getting ready to shoot that in early April. And we have this dream team of creative. So I’m really, really excited for that. I’ll be directing and editing, and this is the first project that.

[00:20:10] On set. I don’t have to wear 50 hats. I’m just directing. We have a dedicated camera operator slash DP , uh, dedicated hair, makeup people, aren’t

[00:20:18] departments. So I’m really excited for that. 

[00:20:21] Dane Reis: [00:20:21] Oh, that is so cool. We’ve had a couple of your , uh, creative partners , uh, on the show already. And , uh, everything that they’ve had to say about that project  sounds amazing and I cannot wait for it to come out.

[00:20:35] Logan Rando: [00:20:35] Yeah. I’m so thankful to be a part of that team. So it’s

[00:20:37] going to be really cool.

[00:20:38] Dane Reis: [00:20:38] Absolutely. Well, let’s move on to one of my favorite sections in the interview. I call it the grease lightening round. I am going to ask you a handful of questions. I want you to answer them as quickly and concisely as possible one after another. Are you ready?

[00:20:56] Logan Rando: [00:20:56] ready? 

[00:20:57] Dane Reis: [00:20:57] All right. First question. What was the one thing holding you back from committing to a career in the entertainment industry?

[00:21:04]Logan Rando: [00:21:04] Self-doubt 

[00:21:05]Dane Reis: [00:21:05] Second question. What is the best piece of advice you have ever received? 

[00:21:10]Logan Rando: [00:21:10] execute above all else. 

[00:21:12] Dane Reis: [00:21:12] Yes. Third

[00:21:13] question. What is something that is working for you right now, or if you’d like to go pre COVID, what was working for you before the industry  took a bit of a pause.

[00:21:23]Logan Rando: [00:21:23]

[00:21:23] Okay. Um, hobbies, hobbies, having diversified hobbies that

[00:21:25] take me out of filmmaking for a bit.

[00:21:28] Dane Reis: [00:21:28] Oh, so good. Yeah. I also find that look, I went to the Boston conservatory for music theater and it was all day, every day, you know, 16 hours a day, music theater. And I got to a 0.1 of the years and we had some class, we were just reading just a novel. and then discussing it, of course, but it was, it was a non acting class or non-music theater class.

[00:21:51] And it was, it was so refreshing in a way I’m like, Oh, as much as I love music theater, like I needed a second to go, okay. There are other things out there, you know, that aren’t this, that I need to rebalance my brain a bit.

[00:22:03] Logan Rando: [00:22:03] Yeah, we need balance in life. And for me, I like to have hobbies that have nothing to do with filmmaking. So, you know, like, like with the book it’s just important to, to not just be tunnel vision all the time.

[00:22:13] So, So, yeah, that’s been huge for me. 

[00:22:15] Dane Reis: [00:22:15] Yeah, for sure. And the fourth question, what is your best resource? Whether that is a book, a movie, a YouTube video, maybe a podcast or piece of technology you’ve found is helping your career right now.

[00:22:29]Logan Rando: [00:22:29] Generally speaking , YouTube, YouTube has changed my life. It has saved my life. It’s my number one resource for pretty much learning anything. Um, but if you want to get more specific and all the fellow cinematographers out there might like this , um, for cinematography, see in particular , very, very technical cinematography, a YouTube channel called Wolf Crow.

[00:22:48] That’s run by a filmmaker based in India named . And he has a wealth of experience and

[00:22:56] knowledge that he shares for free on

[00:22:57] YouTube.

[00:22:58] Dane Reis: [00:22:58] Oh, amazing. What a good resource for everyone. And the fifth question, if you had to start your career from scratch, but you still had all the knowledge and experience you’ve collected from your career in this industry, what would you do or not do? Would you do anything differently or would you keep it the same?

[00:23:17]Logan Rando: [00:23:17] Ooh, that’s a good question. Um, so if I could start over, I would just start earlier. I, I love this stuff so much. I would not waste. Well, Well, it wasn’t a waste because hindsight’s always 2020, but I would just try and start making movies as soon as I could hold the camera. So if I could go back in time , um, you know, I’d start with the camcorder and my family’s house.

[00:23:35] And I would live by that execution role because I think when I was younger, especially I could get my head and be like, ah, this isn’t, you know, I’m such a perfectionist, but , um, you know, as we discussed, I’ve learned not just do it. Move on learn and, and get better next time. So yeah, I would just, I would execute a lot more and not waste my time with things that I wasn’t passionate about.

[00:23:55] I, I just would live from my passions and that’s what I’m trying to do today.

[00:24:00] Dane Reis: [00:24:00] love it. And the last question, what is the golden nugget knowledge or drop you’ve learned from your successful career in this industry? You’d like to leave with our listeners.

[00:24:11]Logan Rando: [00:24:11] So I won’t repeat myself with the execution things since I’ll sound like a broken record. Um, another really good one that has worked out for me is. You know, go all in on your artistry and be creative and don’t let anybody, you know, you know, restrain your creativity, but there’s always a business side. If you want to do these things professionally.

[00:24:29] So make sure your business side and your networking side and your organization side is as buttoned up as possible because there’s always going to be better artists than you. There’s always going to be folks with more experience. But you can control how buttoned up and organized and responsive and how good of a communicator you are.

[00:24:49] So do not underestimate those things. I believe they’re skills that have, let me sort of jump a couple steps of rungs in the ladder. So if you can get those things really sharpened

[00:25:01] honed, you’ll find some 

[00:25:03] Dane Reis: [00:25:03] Oh, I’m so glad you brought that up. Look, it’s called show business, right? And you can’t really have one without the other. If you want to do it at any sort of scale, right. It takes, it takes funding to do these things. And if you want to continue doing it, full-time, you need to eventually make money doing this so you can pay for the cost of life and your art and your training and all these things.

[00:25:26] It’s so important, you know? Like you said, just the communication, but also writing contracts, how to read contracts. Um, what are you looking for taxes S-corp LLC , like,  , what, what suits you in what you’re doing? So there’s so many things to know about and you know what I love about the business side of, of this industry besides the fact that it’s, I find it fascinating is that.

[00:25:47]Yes. It is not always the most fun stuff to learn about, but the great part is there’s not a whole lot of subjectivity in it. It’s pretty black and white. There are laws, there are rules on the way the business side works. And once you know them, you’re pretty set. So taking the time and. Really acknowledging that, Hey, this is important to the longevity of my career.

[00:26:12]Take the time to learn about these things. Use YouTube and learn some of this stuff for free.

[00:26:17]Logan Rando: [00:26:17] Absolutely. And you can just cross these, you know,  sort of obstacles as they come, when you start making enough money where you need there, you know, be reporting taxes. That’s your chance to learn about paying taxes and, and how, you know, what you have to do with bookkeeping and all that.

[00:26:30] So these are the things that you don’t have to be afraid of, but you know, don’t dread them either because they’re cool. It’s, you know, you’re going to learn a little bit about accounting. You’re going to learn a little bit about

[00:26:38] networking, you know, that can be kind of cool. 

[00:26:40] Dane Reis: [00:26:40] Yeah. And it’s very

[00:26:41] empowering when you are supporting yourself with something you’re so passionate about and your craft. So I think that is also really just, it’s just so cool. 

[00:26:52] Logan Rando: [00:26:52] Yeah.

[00:26:52] Yeah. That part is unbeatable for sure. 

[00:26:54] Dane Reis: [00:26:54] Yeah.

[00:26:55] All right. And to wrap up this interview, Logan, it is time to give yourself up the lug. Where can we find you? How do our listeners connect with you?

[00:27:06] Is there anything you want to promote?

[00:27:08]Logan Rando: [00:27:08] So you can check out some of my most recent work on my website. Uh, whatever I could publish at the moment, some stuff is still private. So that’s , uh, Logan rondo.com, L O G a N R I N D o.com. Um, I’m fairly active on Instagram. It’s Logan dot Rondeau. And I’m also on YouTube. Um, again , uh, film projects that aren’t pending festival submission are on there.

[00:27:29] That’s just Logan Rondo on YouTube. And I also have a few beginner tutorials for new filmmakers, things that I wanted to convey that I kind wish I knew at the beginning. So I’ve got a few tutorials on there that , uh,beginner, filmmakers would find helpful. And if you’d like to check out my latest project , um, if I could tell you we’re on Instagram, Facebook, we have a website and

[00:27:48] that’s, if I could tell you film. 

[00:27:50]Dane Reis: [00:27:50] Beautiful. And for everyone listening out there, I’ve put the links to everything. Logan just said into the description of this episode. So you can easily connect with him and all of his projects. And also be sure to share this podcast with your fellow entertainers, coaches, teachers, arts, and entertainment educators, and anyone, you know, you know, aspiring to create a career in the entertainment industry.

[00:28:16] You booked. It is the number one resource of expertise on how to actually create a successful entertainment career case in point. Everything Logan just gave us today from the entire film making side of this industry. So good. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure you hit that subscribe button. So you don’t miss the next one.

[00:28:36] Logan. Thank you so much for being here today. So glad we got connected

[00:28:41]Logan Rando: [00:28:41] Thanks so much for having me, Dan, this was really cool.