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EP 197: Constantine Maroulis (autogenerated)
Dane Reis: [00:00:00] you booked it. Episode 197. Okay, let’s get this started. I am stoked to introduce my guest today. Constantine Maroulis is, are you ready for this Constantine?
[00:00:18]Constantine Maroulis: [00:00:18] I am ready.
[00:00:19] Dane Reis: [00:00:19] All right. Constantine was born a scrappy kid in Brooklyn with big pipes, deep pride for his Greek heritage, and they love for the theater and rock and roll.
[00:00:29] He first came to prominence as the beloved rock and roll underdog on American idol. He then secured his place in pop culture as a Broadway superstar, best known for his Tony nominated role in rock of ages. . Now for his third act, he begins an invigorating and promising new era with a bevy of intriguing projects, including putting the finishing touches on his most assured and swaggering solo music to date Constantine.
[00:00:57] That was a quick intro of who you are and what you’ve done. But why don’t you tell us a little bit more about yourself, filling the gaps and a little bit more about what you do as a professional in the entertainment industry.
[00:01:09]Constantine Maroulis: [00:01:09]
Well, thank you, Dane. Uh, and thank you for having me. I hope everyone in , uh, in your family and your friends over there and Australia, I believe you’re , uh, broadcasting from, yeah. I mean, I mean, you guys are doing a lot better, I think, than we’re doing over here with all of this. So it’s been. It’s been a crazy 14 months , uh, for sure.
, um, quite revealing in so many ways personally. Uh, um, and , uh, I’ve been working very hard to just keep my family safe and , uh, stay busy with work and some cool projects. But um, you know, , um, you know, I think definitely growing up in a big Greek , um, household , um, just focusing on family and , um, Those things that are most important to me , um, help me get through all of this.
Uh, definitely leaning on my, my heritage, my, my background, my upbringing , uh, blue collar roots, you know, born in Brooklyn, New York, raised in New Jersey. Uh, definitely a survivor, you know, always have been. Lost my first cousin in the world trade center and, you know, devastated my family. So it feels like in a way , um,navigating COVID, it was kind of, it was like a deja VU experience, you know, you know, not to be a downer, but it felt like.
[00:02:13]Wow. I feel like we’ve been here before. I feel like we’ve been at this precipice of is the sky falling.
Um, and you know, leaning on my art, leaning on my work , um, to not only get me through this, but to hopefully lift up others and , um, You know, provide an escape , um, a bit of magic in their lives , um, , uh, You know, You know, as we get through this really difficult time in our, our existence, really , um, we’re just a little blip in the , uh, in the, in the galaxy.
[00:02:42] But you know,
But you know, for us, this is, this is about as big as it gets. I don’t know if we’ll ever encounter something like this again. So for me , um, in a way, all of my experiences have kind of led me to this, you know, 2020 and 2021 or half of 21. Um, You know, time period. Uh, so you know , I, I, I’m the youngest of three, I have a pretty big.
[00:03:04] Extended family, 24 first cousins on one side.
[00:03:09] Dane Reis: [00:03:09] Geez.
[00:03:09]Constantine Maroulis: [00:03:09]
you know, but I’m the only one who really does this. My brother is a, is a performer. Uh, he’s put out lots of records, eighth and Moralis. Uh, you can look him up. He’s had a prolific career, but we’re very different, but I just worshiped him when I was a kid we’re 11 years apart.
[00:03:23] He’s much older than me. And
, uh, definitely a big influence on me. My, my sister was into all kinds of cool records and music when I was a kid. And, you know, my parents uh, were always older than my friends’ parents , um, and always working, but. You know, You know, we watched movie musicals as , uh, when I was very young. I had, I had some recollection of that, of the five of us actually in a family room together , uh, watching was it
[00:03:47] Avaaz or West side story
, um, and , uh, huge influences on me for sure.
[00:03:52] Dane Reis: [00:03:52] yeah, very cool. Well,
Well, let’s dig into this first section here and
[00:03:58] Constantine. Look, I am a sucker for a good quote. What is your favorite quote? You’d like to share with everyone?
[00:04:06]Constantine Maroulis: [00:04:06] Oh, my favorite quote. Wow. Put me on the spot. Um,
Um, I think , uh, , don’t ask me where I’m going. Listen, when I’m gone and far away, you’ll hear me singing softly to the Dawn. Um, I think that is from Pippin, but I , uh, I always liked that there’s so many cool quotes in that at, I think it just Pippin just kind of happened right at that age for me, 12, 13 years old, where I was like, wow, this is so cool.
[00:04:35] I kind of
kind of want to do this. I think, you know, you know, this like straight guys that like rock and roll and. Movies and sports could also really love to be a part of musical theater. And I think that that is pretty cool. And I’ve sort of prided myself on, on being, you know, someone open doors. Uh, Um, and broken down stigmas and, you know, even, you know, being a part of the creative process of bringing rock of ages to the world.
Um, I think we invited an audience to
our, our show that has never entered a Broadway theater ever before. so uh, for me, that’s probably the quote that comes to me.
[00:05:10] Dane Reis: [00:05:10] Oh, so cool. Love that. And I had
, uh, Michael Minarik on the show not
[00:05:16] too long ago. Yeah. I can only assume that the two of, you know, each other.
[00:05:22] Constantine Maroulis: [00:05:22] We know each other very,
very, very well. He’s a dear friend. Um, Um, he’s um, , um, a brilliant
[00:05:26]artist and teacher and entrepreneur of
, uh, you know,
our, our entertainment business. And , uh, you , he, he and his wife have been through a break deal , uh,in the last couple of years. So he’s a, he’s a definite hero of mine.
[00:05:37] Dane Reis: [00:05:37] Yeah, very cool. Well,
Well, let’s dig into this
[00:05:40] next section here and Constantine, of course you are an entertainer. I’m an entertainer. And. I think that you’d agree that this industry can be one of the most subjective, brutally, honest and personally emotional industries in existence. And you know,
you know, as well as I, that in order to create and have a successful career in this industry, like your having now takes a lot.
[00:06:04] Of dedication and hard work. And while yes, there’s an outrageous amount of fun and excitement doing what we do. There are also our fair share of obstacles, challenges, and failures. We are going to experience and we’re going to have to move forward through. So tell us, what is one key challenge, obstacle or failure you’ve experienced in your career and how did you come out the other side better because of it.
[00:06:27]Constantine Maroulis: [00:06:27] You know, I mean,
You know, I mean, I don’t think there’s just one, there’s been so many, you know, I’ve, I’ve been blessed to have a ton of success for sure. Um, but with all of that, there have been many adults. Slammed in my face, you know, many , um, jobs. I didn’t get that. I thought I was going to get, you know, even my experience on American idol, you know, I don’t, I played a win, you know, so free falling off the show one week , um, when the whole world was watching back in. She is 2005 or so myself, Carrie Underwood, 30 million people a night, three nights a week for months and months and months, just a massive, massive show back then, you know, you know, uh, you know, it was the only, it was the sort of only show in town then. And , uh, you know, I think. I always knew Carrie Underwood would win the show, but I, you played a win, but you know, but you know, to free fall off the show one week , uh, until like six place or something that, you know, that hurt that that was brutal.
[00:07:22] And, but then I discovered, okay, now the work really begins. Okay.
I’m I’m like massively famous right now because it’s not like I’m on the show. In 2021, this is when the whole world was watching. I couldn’t walk anywhere. I couldn’t go anywhere. And really literally Australia, you know, England Asia, you know, you know, everyone was watching live American idol, season four.
[00:07:45] It was just crazy town.
Um, and so I guess I sort of. sort of. You know, just strapped on my boots and got to work right then and there, but it was devastating. It was devastating. It was devastating to lose the Tony. Um, it was devastating to not get nominated for a Tony for Jekyll and Hyde. You know, You know, when I was, you know, I won a myriad of other awards and accolades, but, you know, I think.
[00:08:12] That sounds so superficial, but
but you know, I’m competitive. I love to be a part of a wonderfully , um, I don’t know , uh, diverse and, and supportive community, but I grew up playing sports. You know, you want to win also, you know, I don’t know how you, it’s always silly. Like when you watch these award shows and you see people , um, you know, Winning for best actor.
[00:08:32] It’s like,
like, no, one’s a better actor on that level. You know, it’s just about a particular performance and script and story that, you know, more people responded to. I mean, I mean, it’s so it’s so subjective. It’s like, how can you really. Right. Like Right. Like who’s a better actor or something like that. So, um,
[00:08:49]I think things like that,
you know, um, you know, the law, lots of, lots of wins, but also lots of losses along the way.
[00:08:55] Dane Reis: [00:08:55] Yeah, for sure. I can only imagine what it
[00:08:59] was like, like you said, season for American idol, man. I remember watching you on TV,
you know, and it’s crazy. There was, it was the number one thing. I remember everyone that I knew we. Made sure that we were home and watched American idol live every, but that was everybody.
[00:09:16] Every household. Hey,
[00:09:17] Constantine Maroulis: [00:09:17] Isn’t that crazy. Yeah.
And, and it was, you know, still a time when exactly like you had to be home to watch it. You
[00:09:24] Dane Reis: [00:09:24] Yeah. Can you just DVR
[00:09:25] Constantine Maroulis: [00:09:25] T you weren’t DVR bring it or TiVo showing it or whatnot. Like you were there to watch it. You talked about it the next morning at school or at work or with your family. Can you believe what so-and-so
so-and-so did or what Simon said or this or that?
So, you know, in a way it was like a throwback to the golden age of television that basically my parents got to experience, you know, when they probably first got a television and the , uh, You know, forties or fifties. Um, and you know, those shows that everyone in the world just sat around the dinner table, watching, you know, and the millions and millions.
So, um, It was a wonderful time. You know, it was a wonderfully, even innocent time. It was a program for everyone to watch in the family. There was someone for, for everybody, you know, and , uh, uh, I think I just was at the right place at the right time. You know, I graduated , uh, A prestigious conservatory. I had toured with rent.
[00:10:20] I was on Broadway. I had been in bands and TV shows and such, and I just really needed a job. I needed a gig and I auditioned for the show on a total whim. I had never seen it before I had,
you know, barely heard about it because. You know, You know, back then, we didn’t really use the internet like we do today. Of course.
[00:10:38] And they had only had three seasons. I was at conservatory. I was on tour.
You know, you kind of knew American idol, but I, I never watched it. Um, because again, we didn’t have that. We just didn’t have that kind of , um, I dunno, habitual like, um, like taping shows or researching shows online or really talking much about it.
[00:10:59] I think when you’re a performer
um, you’re busy, you’re working, you’re training. You’re, you’re doing stuff. You’re doing your own stuff. So.
[00:11:05]Dane Reis: [00:11:05] Yeah, totally.
Well, let’s move on to a time that I like to call your spotlight moment. That one moment in time you realized, yes, I am going to be an entertainer for a living or maybe it was, yes, this is what I need to be doing in this industry. What’s about that.
[00:11:24]Constantine Maroulis: [00:11:24] No, he’s had terrible stage fright when I was a kid. I
, and, and I’m not just saying that , like, I really did. I would, I clearly had a big singing boys and a lot of personality and whatnot. And I would get all the singing parts in some kind of chorus , uh, you know, piece or whatnot. Um, and , uh, and then I would get that out there in front of an audience.
[00:11:45] And I would just choke, you know, when I was young nine, 10, 11, 12, whatnot.
Um, , uh, And I guess, you know, just experience, you just have to eventually get , um, in front of people enough and just keep working and keep building a confidence. And then eventually, you know, you kind of get in front of a band and you grab that mic and the girls kind of kind of like it and the boys kind of kind of like it, you’re building the confidence and all of a sudden you’re just kind of off and going.
[00:12:13] I think for me, You know,
You know, like I said, my brother and sister were much older than me and they were almost like these mythical characters to me because, you know, they were kind of out of the house and I grew up really kind of by myself, you know? And , um, I think that first time I finally had the courage to join the like chorus and in high school, after being coerced , um, By the choral teacher to join , um, getting that first big solo.
[00:12:39] I think it was Duke of Earl du, du, du, du, du, du cup. And then I sang that’s all. As I walked through this world, nothing can stop the Duke of a or. And you, you, um, no one can hurt you. Oh no. I’m gonna love you. That whole thing, you know? And like people were like, wow, like they were just, it was,
you know, such a throwback tune, a fifties tune.
[00:13:13] And just,
you know, I came out with the sunglasses and everyone went crazy. They were like, Holy shit. Like you can really sing. And I was like, really, thank you. And I won all these trophies. We went to this like big chorus , um, you know, competition. And I, I honestly want like like every trophy and , uh, it was just nuts.
[00:13:37] It was nuts. So I think that, that was just like you know, and I had great theater teachers and directors, along the way where. You know, the kids, I, I did theater and music with, they were all really good.
So, um, you know, the competition was, was high and we had good teachers. Were They would only, you know, they would put you in the ensemble until you were like an upperclassmen, no matter who you were or how good you were, you know, you had to earn your way from the back to the front.
[00:14:04] And that was the best lesson anyone ever really taught me,
you know, just having to , uh, kind of earn my way and learn from the older kids. And, and that was, it’s kind of like in sports, you know, like some of these. Look, the New York Yankees, obviously world famous baseball team. They have a 16 year old kid that the whole world is talking about.
[00:14:24] I collect baseball cards and you know,
you know, the hobbies like exploded. So everyone is trying to get their hands on this like 16 year olds , like, you know, minor league cards, Jason Domingez, cause it’s cards are worth ridiculous. This kid hasn’t played yet. He hasn’t even played yet. So the Yankees could all, they could realistically elevate this kid by 17, 18 years old to the pros to let, and, but they’re going to make him wait, they’re gonna make him wait.
[00:14:55] They’re gonna,
you know, nurture him, have him learn. And then when he is ready, Then he will play. So that was the best lesson that anyone really taught me , um, coming up, you know? So, uh, there were a couple of those moments, you know, you know, getting that trophy, getting in front of the, the crowds for
[00:15:11] the first time, getting that first lead in high school, in a play.
Um, they were, they were really big moments. Sure. For sure. A big moment.
[00:15:18] Dane Reis: [00:15:18] Yeah, I mean,
I mean, it’s great to have all those, you get those little teasers that’s success. Right. And you
kind of see like, well, this is the,
[00:15:22] this is what it could be. Yes. I’m getting closer. But yeah, there’s no denying that you have to put in the work. There’s no getting around the
[00:15:31]Constantine Maroulis: [00:15:31] right.
right. And I don’t envy the kids nowadays. And I know I sound like a, I don’t know if you guys have that progressive commercial, progressive insurance where it’s like , uh, don’t act like your parents, and then they have all these like younger people, like. like. Kind of acting like their parents. They’re like I was on the internet the other day was I half tagging.
[00:15:52] And the guy’s like,
like, what? Um, yeah. And you just sound so old and stupid when you’re like, I don’t envy the kids these days, but I really don’t because, you know, Everything they do is about likes and follows and followers and pictures. And who likes me and how many people are going to like my picture. And that’s a tux that just sucks.
[00:16:12] I mean,
I mean, I get it. It’s part of my work too, but I don’t know. You know, You know, that just means that like, it’s not about the work. And it’s only about getting famous and getting views and getting followers and getting subscribers. And
you know, we’re not, we’re not doing the work. We’re not, we’re not, we’re not on a path.
Um, that is, I don’t know,
[00:16:32]Dane Reis: [00:16:32] Yeah, get caught up in
[00:16:33] these micro moments, everything is so short and so short lived and. You want a seven second video to absolutely go viral. And
that can, that can make a big difference in your overall life as well, which is crazy to think, but it’s, it’s hard to play the long game when everything is so small,
[00:16:52]Constantine Maroulis: [00:16:52] Truly, truly. And that’s all I preach. To a younger people.
Um, you had my colleague, Michael Minarik on, you know, I’ve done some master classes at his school. Um, I, I often teach, I do a lot of coaching and for the young performers out there, look me up. I’m I’m.
You know, not everyone can teach that does what I do.
[00:17:11] And I don’t know what it is. It’s in my blood that come from a long line of educators. I love to teach. I love to coach. I make people better. I know I can. I know I can pass something on to them to give them the tools
, um, to, to be better, but I don’t want to teach them to be me. I don’t want them to be. A rockstar or, or a star like that’s, that’s not, that’s not how I got to where I am.
Um, what I’d rather see them be is someone that is valuable in many. Many areas, you know, um, cause trust me, starring and shows is cool, but you don’t get to star in every show you get to star in like maybe one show or two shows a decade, if you’re lucky. Um, and then there’s a whole lot of downtime because it just doesn’t work that way, you know, you know,
uh, uh, different with movie stars and stuff.
[00:18:01] But as far as like Broadway or. Whatnot, you don’t just jump from show to show, to show, to show like star and then all of them.
to show, to show, But if you’re a valuable , um, talent that can. Sing dance, cover roles, play principal roles, play supporting parts, you know, um, cover different parts. Uh, you’re a dancer, you’re a person that can sing different parts, you know, like make yourself valuable as possible.
Like that’s, that’s what I teach, you know? So, um, much cooler to be that, you know, it’s like in sports, you know, like that, that. Guy or gal that can play like multiple positions can go in at any time in the day, a pressure situation, non pressure situation. Um, having sat for four games in a row , then, then having to play and still be successful.
Like be that person be
[00:18:48] the MVP,
you know, not , um, I don’t know, do the work, you know, for
[00:18:51] Dane Reis: [00:18:51] yeah, for sure. And yeah, I mean,
mean, I can relate to that a bit because a lot of my performance career is also. You know, You know, the swing life
[00:18:58] found me as well. You know, my,
You know, my, my, my brain works well that way, you know, and that’s certainly not for everybody. And, but it’s hard, but you know, sometimes it’ll be quite a while sometimes before actually having to go do whatever thing, whatever you get called to do, because someone got sick or injured, like in the middle of a show.
Right. But you just have to be ready to put that hat on and go do it like you did it yesterday.
[00:19:20] Constantine Maroulis: [00:19:20] Oh, and you always have the least amount of rehearsal of anyone because, I mean,
you know, um, I mean, it’s just rare that you get to really work with the creative team or work with the other principal actors. You’re you’re maybe in a once a week rehearsal. Well, after a show opens, not right away , um, And you’re like working with the stage manager or, or whoever or other understudies that have not been on either.
[00:19:42] So yeah, it’s thankless gig.
Um, I couldn’t do it. I know I couldn’t do it. Uh, there’s a guy, our friend, Tony , uh, his last name escapes me right now, but he is this freak. He was in rock of ages. He played every single. Part in the show, he played every male part. He was literally redefined the word swing on Broadway basically had never been done before, before he played drew.
[00:20:14] He played Stacy. He played Dennis, he played Lonnie. He played Fronz. He played Hertz. He did.
Um,Joey Primo, he played, I mean, I mean, he played every single part in the show at any, it was unreal on, and he’s basically doing the same thing and come from a way right now and his hard work paid off because they’re about to film this huge special for Netflix have come from away and.
Well, because another colleague of mine was quite outspoken about the vaccines and some political stuff that were very different views than let’s say most people in our business have. Well, he wasn’t invited to be a part of the movie and now Tony’s getting bumped
[00:20:58] up to,
you know, and getting like his big break out from like swing life to like starring in a Netflix movie,
[00:21:08] Dane Reis: [00:21:08] crazy. Yeah.
[00:21:10] Constantine Maroulis: [00:21:10] And at
[00:21:10] 50 years old to
[00:21:12] Dane Reis: [00:21:12] yeah.
[00:21:13] so cool.
piggyback, piggyback on
[00:21:15] that spotlight question And let’s talk about
[00:21:18] your number one, booked it moment. Walk us through that day, the auditions and call backs. If they happen to be a part of it, what was going on in your life? And what about that moment?
[00:21:30] Makes it your favorite book moment?
[00:21:35] Constantine Maroulis: [00:21:35] Um, you know, it’s funny, they spoke to me first about rock of ages when I was on American idol, way back in
like like 2005, 2006, they had had some early workshop LA productions kind of like kind of like a, bring your own costume. We’re going to set up in this bar and do this kind of skit.
You know, it wasn’t fleshed out. It was a big eighties kind of mixed tape mess at the
you know, I , uh, After my time on idol, I was developing a big TV show for ABC. I was doing a record. I was touring a bit. I was on the soap opera for a while. I went into the wedding singer on Broadway. Uh, eventually rock of ages came around and they were going to open an off Broadway production of the show.
[00:22:19] I went to
like the last stage reading of it. I was not in it. It was not great. And I was just like, this is, I don’t know, this show has so much potential, but it’s just kinda missing something. So I went in, I met with them originally. They always wanted me to play Stacey. Jack’s like the rock star
[00:22:39] character. So I went to meet them
, um, at Bernard Telsey at the time, big casting agency, Telsey and company, and Kristin, the director came out and she’s like, no, no, like, no, no, no. You’re my drew. You’re not, you’re not Stacey. You’re drew. I want you to read for drew and just come in and just do the drew stuff. And I was like, okay.
[00:23:01] So I came in and I never left the room. They kept me in there and they kept bringing in all these other people to read against me, you know,
you know, Sherry’s and Lonnie’s and everybody, and. Basically like they called my agent right away. They’re like, I mean, you know, we have to have them. And , uh, I actually had an offer to go into another Broadway show, a big, a big, a big Broadway show for a big salary.
[00:23:27] Cause I was like, you know, kind of famous at the time and all of this. And I had been on the soap opera also after American idol. And,
you know, I was just trying to like build my brand on, on Broadway. I had already done a supporting part , so, you know, yes, I wanted to play lead, but I, you know, you know, working remember rock of ages started off-Broadway first.
[00:23:45] That money is basically non-existent. I mean, you know, you’re making. Really just nothing. And it’s tough. It’s tough to even
like live in New York city for that kind of money. But I just felt like
[00:23:57] there was something
[00:23:59]amazing about this show and me and them and the sort of wonder twin powers that we could activate together.
Um, and so.
[00:24:08]Yeah, I booked it and I’m so glad that I decided to take the job.
you know, it just became my baby. And you know, now we’re celebrating, we just celebrated 12 years since we opened on Broadway, we have a massive, massive, massive concert coming up, um, a huge. Uh, rock of ages, all star reunion , um, with so many famous stars , uh, we’re going to be live , um, on both coasts here in the States.
Um, you can get tickets, you know, really anywhere, stellar tickets.com , or rock of ages, musical.com. Um, it’s going to be incredible. It’s such a big reunion and I think it’s exactly like what people need right now is just , um, Just some mid to late eighties, rock and roll, you know, done done by the best , uh, party , uh, in Broadway history.
[00:24:57] For sure.
So, um, I think that’s, that was my book date moment, for sure. And to see it become this, you know, you know, by the time we got to Broadway and you know, so many years later and for it to be this. Brand all over the world and where it’s, you know, not only done in Australia, but a four corners of the world and different languages and schools and community theaters,
[00:25:17] and just, you know, a
you know, a huge movie and , uh, just really a blessing to , uh, really been a part of the original , uh, vibe of it, for sure.
[00:25:24] Dane Reis: [00:25:24] Oh, so cool. Well,
Well, I think that kind of segues us right into what’s going on in the present. What projects are you working on right now? What are you looking forward to? And we’ve mentioned it a little bit with this pandemic. How do you see the entertainment industry moving forward in the next couple of years?
[00:25:42]Constantine Maroulis: [00:25:42] Man, you know, I’m,
you know, I’m, I’m so lucky that I worked on a bunch of cool projects before the shutdown. I had a. Um, put a few movies in the can. Um, I have, I guess, four movies right now that are either at streaming or coming to streaming or video on demand. Um, yeah, this movie, the fifth borough, this movie Chronicle of a serial killer with actually DMX who just died the hip hop legend here in the States.
Uh he’s he stars in , uh, either side of midnight by Roger Spottiswoode, a legendary eighties and nineties , uh, film director , um, picking and choosing cool indie films to do nowadays.
Um, Just a beautiful New York story. That’ll be coming to video on demand and it’s hitting all the festivals right now. So got a chance to be a part of some cool movies. And I put out an album over the shutdown it’s called until I’m wanted. Um, you can check that out anywhere. Constant team roulis.com, but it’s available on all the streaming platforms, Spotify, Apple music.
[00:26:58] Google play title.
Um, it’s been getting tons of play on Sirius XM, a single all about you. Um, it’s my first original album in many years, you know, I’ve just had the pleasure of singing other people’s stuff , uh, for so long, but , um, you know, to get back in the studio and, and create a, you know, a rock and roll.
You know, love letter , um, until I’m wanted, it’s been just a blessing and it’s been out since , um, the summer of 2020 and, and all about use getting played still. Uh, for the last six months in full rotation at Sirius XM. So very cool. Um, we have this, like I said, this huge rock of ages concert coming up April 24th, stellar tickets.com.
[00:27:38] It’s going to stream on stellar, a huge platform here.
Um, It’s going to be awesome. Uh, just, just, I’m actually flying to Los Angeles for it. I’ve been, you know, fully vaccinated for , uh, the last month or so plus, and I’ll be getting on my first flight in a long time. So April 24th, check that out. And then I did this concert called reflections , um, which is celebrating the 50th anniversary of the who’s.
[00:28:02]Album who’s next. so we’re doing the entire album of the who’s next with this huge band. It’s a, multi-camera like rock and roll experience. We’re also covering
, um, the catalog. Um,
[00:28:17]we’re doing Tommy, we’re doing
[00:28:18] Quadrophenia with
, know, all these big Broadway singers, myself, Justin Sargent from Spider-Man turn
[00:28:25] Dane Reis: [00:28:25] Oh, I know Justin. He’s a friend
[00:28:26] of mine.
[00:28:27] Constantine Maroulis: [00:28:27] he’s amazing. And
, uh, Mike Wartsila from a ton of Broadway shows , uh, Charlie and the chocolate factory Londa Gordon from Chicago and LA , uh, lion King. So that’s going to stream also April 30th. Um, into may early may. So you can go to the rock project, live.com and check out tickets to that. But all of this stuff is on my website as well.
[00:28:49] Constantine maroulis.com and,
you know, man sounds like all these crazy things, but I’m still hungry as ever. Um, you know, thank God things are starting to open up a little bit. My agent , uh, has, you know, gotten me some cool film and television opportunities. So, you know, we’re not. Auditioning in person yet. I hope we can, cause I always seem to do better that way, but we’re putting some cool projects on tape and um, , um, you know, I lost a dear friend , uh, over the shutdown and , um, it’s , uh, it’s been a very surreal experience.
Uh, You know, coming to grips with him not being here anymore, but, you know, um, you know, we, we press on , um, and , um, I. was quite depressed and I feel, I don’t know, I feel rejuvenated. I feel, I feel happy again for the first time in a long time. And , uh, I’m really, I’m really excited about the future. I think, you know, um, Uh, yeah, I have a little, I still want to do so I have a lot of still want to do a, I’m hoping to get back out there and tour and, you know, even promote my album, but we’re already working on the next album because I don’t want there to be 10 years between this one and the last , uh, again , so, uh, just chipping away, taking care of the family.
[00:29:57] I have a ten-year-old at home.
Uh, I missed her soccer game today cause I was working on a film project. Uh, they were out there in the , uh, pouring rain and the mud and they lost three, two, two, a tough team. And she was , uh, you know, she had a couple of assists and , uh, she was beaten everyone up out there.
a tough, a tough player. And, you know, I, I would have given anything to be out there playing in the mud today. So I hope, I hope that’s a memory that , uh, And I’m talking muddy , like, you know, those games where it’s like out of a movie, you know, and, , uh, where the ball just like stops because it’s
[00:30:28] just so much mud
, uh, so sad to miss the game, but, you know, um, I’m, I’m pretty much a full blown soccer dad now.
[00:30:35] So I’m usually at them. I don’t miss much,
[00:30:37] but uh, taking care of my family and just, that’s it, man. Just
keeping, keeping, keeping the rock alive for sure.
[00:30:43] Dane Reis: [00:30:43] right on. Very cool. So cool that you’ve got so many irons in the fire, always on a new project, staying creative. That’s
[00:30:50] what it’s all about.
[00:30:51] Constantine Maroulis: [00:30:51] Yeah. And that’s what we like,
you know, it’s my Greek , uh, my Greek work ethic, you know, it’s like, you know, working hard, hardly working, but uh, just, you know, just, just hustling, always, you know, I mean, believe me. Uh, I’d rather just be on a Broadway show or a , uh, a TV series and , uh, you know, messing around with my baseball cards in my downtime.
uh, you know, until we can get back to some normalcy, you just got to keep hustling and pivoting and teaching and doing whatever you have to do.
[00:31:14] Dane Reis: [00:31:14] that’s right. Very cool.
Well, let’s move on
[00:31:17] to one of my favorite sections of the interview. I call it the grease lightning
[00:31:22] round. I am going to ask you a handful of questions. I want you to answer them as quickly and concisely as possible one after another. Are you ready?
[00:31:32] Constantine Maroulis: [00:31:32] ready?
[00:31:33] Dane Reis: [00:31:33] All right. First question. What was the one thing holding you back from committing to a career as an entertainer?
[00:31:39]Constantine Maroulis: [00:31:39] Just fear, fear and
[00:31:44] Dane Reis: [00:31:44] yeah. Second question. What is the best piece of advice you have ever
[00:31:49]Constantine Maroulis: [00:31:49] Don’t try to be a star,
, uh, work on getting better every single day and all of that other stuff will come, you know, as it, as it’s supposed to.
[00:31:58] Dane Reis: [00:31:58] yes. Third question. What is something that is working for you right now? Or
[00:32:03] if you’d like to go pre COVID, what was working for you before our industry went on? Pause.
[00:32:08] Constantine Maroulis: [00:32:08] auditioning.
[00:32:10] is such a weird thing.
Right. And I still have to audition, you know, a lot of times I don’t have to audition, but I still have to audition. And I felt like I was in such a groove and building such good momentum. And I have put enough time. Between being Constantine from American idol or Constantine from rock of ages, that they were finally starting to see me at film television, and for other shows and tours , um, as just actor, you know, you know, and. That’s hard work. I mean, it’s, it’s great being known, but it’s also a bummer sometimes, you know, so I felt like I was building really great momentum and I felt like I was in a groove audition wise. Like I could go in there, be comfortable. I could do whatever I wanted to do in the room. And that takes decades.
You know, some people are just naturally so good at, but it really takes decades and that’s what it has.
[00:33:05] And so I feel really
[00:33:07] good about that.
So, um, but that’s, it’s been a bummer that boom, it just kind of shut down for
[00:33:11] Dane Reis: [00:33:11] Yeah. Yeah,
[00:33:12] for sure. And the fourth question, what is your best resource? Whether that is a book, a movie, a YouTube video, maybe a podcast or a piece of technology you found is helping your career right now.
[00:33:24]Constantine Maroulis: [00:33:24]
Um, still my brother. My brother, Ethan , um, just a wealth of knowledge and experience in the industry taught me how to be my best manager. My best agent , uh, taught me how to tackle this industry with a briefcase and a microphone , um, to be an entrepreneur, to, you know, um, be interested in many different things, in many different areas and , um, always.
You know, have the ability to pivot and to , uh, handle lots of things at once, you know, from , uh, You know, being, you know, eh, the center of attention to being behind the scenes and making things happen and putting good people together. And it’s worked in my producing life. It’s worked in my, in my song, writing and collaborating , uh, and whatnot.
still, still, my brother is a big influence, but sure. You know, I’m so much , um, I, I absorbed so much content and I’m constantly um, You know, I’ve got my ear to the grind. So whether it’s the internet , um, as a tool or still so many great books that are incredibly knowledgeable, sorry , not, not a
uh, answer there, but , uh, there’s so many, there’s just so many good books and you, you just, we have to read, we can’t forget to read.
[00:34:31] Dane Reis: [00:34:31] yeah. Agreed. And I’m glad that you brought, you said your brother, because I say it all the time that
[00:34:37] look. In this industry and it’s really come up through so many of the interviews on this podcast that it really boils down to really great industry relationships. And then on top of that, really understanding and wrapping your head around the business side of this industry and those two things combined really do enable you to have a successful career.
[00:35:00]Constantine Maroulis: [00:35:00] I agree. Absolutely. My mother would say sometimes it’s not what you know, it’s who, you know.
you know. And , um, I tell young people in regards to an audition, the audition is not just in the room. With the casting or director or whoever is auditioning you, the audition starts in the waiting room. The audition starts in the elevator.
[00:35:25] The audition starts walking from the subway to the building. You never know who’s walking next to you. You never know who’s in the elevator with you. You never know who’s listening in the waiting room. Who’s got a spies here or there,
you know, because. As a producer, the one thing I want when someone walks in the room, do I trust them?
[00:35:47] Can I trust them? Can I trust them to do the job? If I hire them into my circle and my creative, sacred place and space, will they be a positive,
you know, member of this collaboration? You know, so. The audition is not just about going in there and cranking out the song or the scene or whatever the audition is all around.
[00:36:09] You always, everything is the audition.
So, um, just remember that because they’re always watching baby.
[00:36:16] Dane Reis: [00:36:16] Oh, such a
[00:36:17] advice worth rewinding. And listening to that again, everybody. And the fifth question,
[00:36:23] if you had to start your career from scratch, but you still had all the knowledge and experience you’ve collected from your career in this industry, what would you do or not do? Would you do anything differently or would you keep it the same?
[00:36:35]Constantine Maroulis: [00:36:35]
Um, yeah. You know, it’s so easy to be like, Oh, I wouldn’t change anything. You know? Um, Because that’s what made you, who you are, but
[00:36:42] Dane Reis: [00:36:42] Yeah.
[00:36:42] Constantine Maroulis: [00:36:42] okay. Since we’re playing,
You know, I didn’t have a traditional path. I didn’t go from high school right. To college or to, you know, conservatory drama, school, whatnot. After high school, I sort of kicked around a little bit.
[00:36:57] I played in some rock and roll bands. I was working full time and hustling doing some, maybe not.
So, uh, You know, uh, legal things as well, and getting into some, some stuff and doing what I had to do, but playing in bands and auditioning and, you know, honing my craft, building life experiences and whatnot.
[00:37:16] And I really didn’t get off to
, um, Drama school until I was 22 or 23. So I got a bit of a late start at granted. I had done some cool jobs and whatnot, but no one knew who the hell I was yet. Um, and I had all this raw talent, but I didn’t have the training yet. So yes, we’re all on our different paths probably maybe would be in the same place, maybe not, but , um, It would have been nice to dig into my schoolwork a little more seriously in grade school and high school.
[00:37:50] And it would have been nice to have had one of those big time college experiences,
you know, like going off to some big school where I could train and study as an actor, but also have that raw kind of college experience. Um, Um, you know, and I. Basically, you know, the streets of New York became my, my first few years of college.
[00:38:11] And then I went off to Boston, conservatory, Berkeley college of music and all that. And,
you know, I had played in bands and whatnot, and I was, you know, I had life experiences, but sometimes I wish that yeah, I dug in more seriously , um, earlier on for sure. It would, it would be interesting
[00:38:29] to see.
I mean, I, I don’t know if I would be any, any better off or worse off or what, so
[00:38:35] Dane Reis: [00:38:35] Yeah. Yeah. And the last
[00:38:37] question, what is the golden nugget knowledge or drop you’ve learned from
[00:38:41] your successful career? You’d like to share with everyone.
[00:38:45]Constantine Maroulis: [00:38:45] just be nice.
You know, you have to be someone that some, that people want to work with, you know, it’s great to sing. Awesome. And to look great and to, you know, think you’re a great actor, but people just want to work with good people. They want you to be nice. They want you to work hard and be kind um, you know, we’re all a bunch of insecure.
[00:39:05] Little brat, actors and performers.
You know, that’s probably why we do it in the first place. So we so easily fall into this kind of main girl mentality. Um, and it permeates our community. You know, I don’t know , uh, in in a big way. Um, and it’s sad. It’s sad, you know, there’s a lot of that mean girl kind of kind of just behavior and I, I won’t stand for it anymore.
Um, but if we’re all just nice and supportive and not afraid to tell each other how great we think they are and, you know, you know, even if. It’s hard for you to say, I mean, it’s, it goes such a long way to be like, Dane, you were awesome tonight, dude, you killed it. I mean, I, I was so happy. I got to be in the audience and watch you go on and kill it.
, um, I’m so happy for you, dude.
It’s not, it’s not very hard to do, you know, you know, it goes such a long way and,
just, just be nice, honestly. It’s really simple.
[00:40:03] Just be nice,
[00:40:04] Dane Reis: [00:40:04] Yeah. So good. And to wrap up this interview, Constantine, it is time to give yourself up the plug. Where can we find you? How do our listeners connect with you? Is there anything you want to promote?
[00:40:17]Constantine Maroulis: [00:40:17]
Well, I’ve probably promoted all the stuff , uh, that I’m up to , uh, during the podcast already. But look, I’m so lucky and fortunate to have a few fun things coming up. April 24th, big rock of ages, concert, rock of ages, musical.com. Our all star reunion concert live on. Both coasts, New York and Los Angeles. So many great stars from over the years.
[00:40:42] Rock of ages, alumni members of tenacious, D members of the Dan band,
you know, huge stars , um,not just the music of rock of ages, music of the era as well. That was always meant to be in the show. That’s not in the show things and music from guns and roses, you know, other tunes. Really cool. It’s going to be awesome.
[00:41:04] Go to rock of ages, musical.com or stellar tickets.com or Constantine marula.com for all the ins and outs of everything. I’m up to. I’ve got a couple of movies out, got the new album out. Until I’m wanted, check it out. Follow me at Constantine Moralis on Instagram. Let’s stay in touch. If you’re a young performer, you want to connect about a path to success in the professional world.
Um, I can help. I know I can help. I. I do a great deal of coaching and mentoring and it’s my pleasure to do so. so. Um, I’d love to connect with you and hear about your goals and let’s see if we can build a plan to make you better. Uh, so stay in touch. Let’s stay in, engaged, everyone be safe. Um, we’re going to get back to work and , um, you know, People are gonna need us more than ever now, you know, uh, to lift them up and to create a distraction and a wonderful evening of , uh, you know, magical experiences, whether it’s a rock and roll show or, you know, a theatrical experience.
Uh, so chin up, we’re going to be there
[00:42:06] soon enough back to where we belong
, uh, up on the stage and a rock and roll in and , uh, having a sexy, old, good old fashioned time.
[00:42:14] Dane Reis: [00:42:14] Right on. And for everyone listening out there, I’ve put the links to
[00:42:18] everything. Constantine just said into the description of this
[00:42:21] episode, that you can easily connect with him and all of his projects. And also be sure to share this podcast with your fellow entertainers, coaches, teachers, arts, and entertainment educators, and anyone, you know,
you know, aspiring to create a career in the entertainment industry.
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[00:42:55] Thank you so much for being here. I’m so glad we had the opportunity to connect.
[00:43:00]Constantine Maroulis: [00:43:00] Really it’s been my pleasure, Dan, thank you so much for having me a big fan of the show. And
, uh, look forward to , uh, staying connected and, and, and seeing you , uh, maybe , uh,over there in Aussie land soon enough, or you overhear, and , uh, it’s been a pleasure , uh, being here with you. So thank you for having me.
[00:43:18] Dane Reis: [00:43:18] likewise