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EP 199: Jorge Casco (autogenerated)

Dane Reis: [00:00:00] You booked it. Episode 199. Okay, let’s kick this off. I am excited to introduce my guest today. Jorge Cosco, are you ready for this Jorge? 

[00:00:18] Jorge Casco: [00:00:18] Yes, sir. I’m ready. 

[00:00:19] Dane Reis: [00:00:19] Brilliant. Jorge is the current co-owner and executive director forFly Dance company. The gentlemen of hip hop at age 14, he saw fly perform at his school by age 17. He was touring with the group. Fly is a world renowned dance company with over 25 years experience working with schools, communities, nonprofits, and corporations that also tours and performs around the globe.

[00:00:46] They also are one of the few theatrical hip hop dance companies that perform with symphonies, such as the Baltimore symphony Cleveland Pop’s, Cincinnati symphony, and many. Many more across the USA flies style is theatrical hip hop. They blend acting  unusual props at colorful costumes and street dance to give the audience something new.

[00:01:09] Jorge is also the host of the mad discussions podcast, where they discuss music, art, dance, and other life topics. And he also wrote Henry the hip hop hippo, a children’s book that teaches kids to be who they were created to be. Themselves, Jorge. I know that is a very condensed and quick bio of who you are, what you’ve done, but why don’t you tell us a little bit more about yourself?

[00:01:34] Fill in the gaps and a little bit more about what you do as a professional in the entertainment industry.

[00:01:40]Jorge Casco: [00:01:40] Awesome also. Yeah. Um, had come from a large family of , uh, from Honduras central American descent. Uh, both parents grew up with them and it was an exciting life. It was , uh, something that always kept me on the edge of my toes, how the middle child. So I always kind of had to get their , uh, their attention. So I was , uh, somebody that.

[00:01:58] Love to perform, you know, uh, performing with my family as a kid at the church, and then eventually moving into the performing arts. You know, I ended up , uh, working with fly has as a youth, and now  I manage and, and book fly dance company, and we do tours all over the U S

[00:02:13]Dane Reis: [00:02:13] Yeah, brilliant. So cool. I’m excited to get into that throughout this interview, but let’s first move on to this section here and Jorge, look, I am a sucker for a good quote. What is your favorite quote? You’d like to share with everyone?

[00:02:29]Jorge Casco: [00:02:29] my favorite quote is always be a student. You know, I don’t know exactly where it came from, but I know I heard my mom say when growing up and I heard the artistic director, which is my mentor, Kathy would say the same thing. And for me, you know, always learning something new, it keeps you on your toes, you know?

[00:02:45]So I always

[00:02:46] love that

[00:02:47] Dane Reis: [00:02:47] a hundred percent because it’s easy to get stagnant. Especially if you get into the groove of say, Touring or the groove of a contract or whatever it might be, or just that freelance grind you get into the groove of life. And you forget, look, I still need to be kind of pushing the envelope, learning more, adding to my tool belt of skills , uh, and creating more relationships.

[00:03:09] So always keeping that ball moving forward.

[00:03:12]Jorge Casco: [00:03:12] Absolutely. Absolutely. Um, just always having those tools , uh, in front of me too, to be able to just kind of like expand the mind and you always make sure that you can , uh, have things that allow you to be more creative and, and just keep learning and keep that, and then kind of moving into

[00:03:26] different spaces. 

[00:03:27] Dane Reis: [00:03:27] Yeah, totally. Well, Well, let’s dig into this next section here. And Jorge, of course you are an entertainer. I’m an entertainer. And I. I think that you’d agree that this industry can be one of the most subjective, brutally, honest and personally emotional industries in existence. And you know, you know, as well as I, that in order to create and have a successful career in this industry, like your having now takes a lot.

[00:03:54] Of dedication and hard work. And while yes, there is an outrageous amount of fun and excitement being an entertainer, doing what we do. There are also our fair share of obstacles, challenges, and failures. We are going to experience and we’re going to have to move forward through. So tell us, what is one key challenge, obstacle or failure you’ve experienced in your career and how did you come out the other side better because of it.

[00:04:19]Jorge Casco: [00:04:19] I think for us as we kind of represent the hip hop culture, right? We blend classical music with street dance and it has a bad stigma, you know, uh, hip hop people say that hip hop would be rude. It could be offensive. It can be, you know, a, Not a positive type of music, right. Uh, or industry. And those things may be true.

[00:04:37]Uh, but we’re focusing in, on the actual moving itself. You know, a lot of people forget that hip hop is a young. John Mara. So you got to think about, you know, what will you were doing when you were in your you’re in your thirties? Right? Um, some hip hop, hasn’t had a chance to evolve as a jazz or rock and roll.

[00:04:54] And you know, a lot of these others, John has Costco music.  So what happens with hip hop? It tends to be put in this box. So when we’re presenting hip hop to different audiences, we. Try to do things outside the box. That’s why the props and the dancing two different styles of music and life simultaneity is important for us.

[00:05:13]Right. And we’ve also going back to the different types of music, you know, hip hop. And , uh, rock and roll and jazz. A lot of these have a lot of similarities, right? Even classical music was known as like the popular pop

[00:05:25] music of its time. You know, they, um,  and, you know, rock and roll has had his wild side, its ups and downs with, you know, losing artists like Janice Joplin or, or Jimmy Hendrix.

[00:05:34] Right. Right. And then jazz went through his. Through its phase, you know, during their, in the early years, you know, I would say with a lot of the drug usage within that, you know, and classical music, you know, has an eccentric ecentric , um, uh, Composers. And there was riots would happen certain, certain, certain classical composers.

[00:05:50] And I think even one classical music composers have even had a situation where, you know, his wife passed away. We could do to him. So there’s a lot of things that, you know, that hip hop gets accused. Right. Right. And, but we tend to forget that, you know, these are things that has happened in every genre of music, right?

[00:06:10] So now we’ll move forward to what hip hop is really about, which is representing the culture, love and respect. And we focus on those acts aspects and that those have been the biggest challenges to,  to present hip hop in a fun, clean way.

[00:06:23] That is for all, all ages, you know, and doing it with the movement itself is dyslexic. You know, it’s , uh, you know, we pull from different places from Capoeira, Brazilian martial arts from house, which is, which is a , uh,like a, another way of. Tap dancing, but without the tap shoes, you know, and these guys are kind of gymnast, they’re doing flares, advanced ads and all kinds of stuff.

[00:06:41]Right? So this is something that we’re presented it, you know, to music like 19 Cole were to work within, fire were against to Beethoven were deaths. It’s just a fun type of environment. So when people come to see us, you know, they say, Hey, You know, this is a great way to introduce hip hop to a more sophisticated audience in a great way to introduce different genres of music to, or younger

[00:07:02] art, you know? 

[00:07:03] Dane Reis: [00:07:03] Yeah, I think that’s so cool. And I think, like you said, the hip hop genre broadly speaking is a newer genre of music, right. right. When you compare it to, you know, you know, Baroque music, right. Uh, right. Uh, but. At the end of the day, it’s all creative. We it’s always, you know, artists that are creating this music and artists always tend to have a bit of uh, , uh, eccentricities if you will, about them.

[00:07:30]You know? And that’s, that’s just always the way. And like you said,   all that the music of its time has always been the popular ones, music of its time and came with it, you know, the different, you know, characters that come along, right. That maybe aren’t so good or don’t, you know, in the history books, don’t.

[00:07:41] Shine too well or brightly on the genre as a whole. And that’s okay. It’s just kind of the growing pains of entry kind of creativity or any genre. Um, and I think it’s fantastic that you guys are doing that and really going into symphonies and , uh, orchestra situations and, and performing in that, that arena.

[00:07:57] It’s so cool. mean, first off performing on stage with a live orchestra is outrageously exciting. Uh, but just. Meshing together as many styles as possible, bringing that positivity and just the awareness of an art form, I think is an amazing thing.

[00:08:12]Jorge Casco: [00:08:12] I think it’s for, for us, it validates us and lets us, lets people know, let’s say, Hey, guess what? This group, you know, the gentlemen of hip hop, this is, this is a name that we take. Uh, we’re very proud of this name. It wasn’t a name that we gave ourselves. This is a name that the presenters and the agents and the management companies that would see us at conferences and after the shows, they would come up to us and say, Hey, you guys are so polite.

[00:08:35]You know, you guys are. It’s you know, so kid comes the gentlemen of hip hop. Hey, what’s up? How’s it going? Hey, what’s up, dude? Hey, how are the gentlemen of hip hop doing it? We started laughing and they, and it was a thing that they called us that for years, for years. So we rebranded would say, you know what, let’s use that.

[00:08:50]And, and put it, put it, put it in the forefront, you know, and then once we did that, that’s what got the attention of the symphonies, you know, to run the chaplain. And, you know, he, he works with a lot of these symphonies and he’s kind of the liaison between the agent that kind of connects us with all these symphonies.

[00:09:02] And in order for them to say, Hey, you know what, we’re going to take this group, this hip hop, the ethical group. Are we going to partner with them? Are we’re going to. Create a whole evening show, you know, and we go back and forth, they will do  a zoom call and we take, and we compare notes and saying , this, this classical piece is great, or this movement would be great with this. And we give them a list of what stuff that we have and. We have over 40 pieces of music that we can actually perform to. And we, you know, we do the whole do calendar Nutcracker as well.

[00:09:32] So they’re already amazed by the fact that we can do all these things, you know, and then we get into the, we get into their town, you know, then we go into the community and do workshops and classes and go into the detention centers. And we go to boys and girls clubs anywhere where they allow us to go on behalf of the symphonies in places where.

[00:09:49] They probably, you know, weren’t able to go before because uh, fly allows them to bridge that gap, you know, and that’s why we’ve had so much success with the us embassies. And you’re working with the state department. That was something that was attractive to them. And that’s something that’s attractive to the symphony is to say, Hey, you know what?

[00:10:06] We’re more. I liked and we are different. We’re all dealing with the same things that music allows us to move forward. Dance allows fly to move forward and let’s come together and impact the youth and shatter those

[00:10:17] stereotypes on both ends. 

[00:10:19] Dane Reis: [00:10:19] Oh, that’s so good. Shatter those stereotypes. I think it’s fantastic that you also, you don’t just take the gig and go perform with the orchestra, but you’re taking it to the next level. So when you show up, you’re going into the communities. I think that’s so important because I think there’s a lot of different industries at the moment that just kind of keep getting more and more and more expensive, not just the arts , uh,lots of things, but , uh, that get more expensive.

[00:10:41] And with it, they become less accessible to so many people. And the thing is,  we don’t need to be coveting. Music and dance and art , uh, for an elite group of people. It’s silly. Of course, these things need to make money too, or get sponsorships from different companies or something, so they can continue to do what they do.

[00:11:00] There’s money is absolutely a real part of the show, business aspect of it. But we need to remember that we all. Enjoy this stuff, and we need to be introduced to it and know that it even exists and learn to build an appreciation for it. If we’re ever going to be those theater goers or the symphony Gores , uh, throughout our lives.

[00:11:21]Jorge Casco: [00:11:21] Absolutely. I think it’s important to expose the youth to it. I didn’t even know you could do this as a, as a hobby or do this as a living. You know, we weren’t exposed to the Broadway and we weren’t exposed to ballet and all these things that a lot of people grow up with going to the theater going, we didn’t have the funding at our schools growing up and we just, we just lived our own little bubble.

[00:11:42] It wasn’t until dance that. That allowed me to kind of open my mindset right. At 14, I started breakdancing in my local neighborhood. And then next thing you know, I go to military theater here in Houston, Texas, and here in Houston, we have this apathy theater and I’m walking up the Hill with a couple of my buddies and, you know, we’re 14 tees running around, you know, just kind of being silly, you know, dancing on the grass, goofing around.

[00:12:07] And I hear this classical music blaring from. The theater and I kind turned around and there’s these guys break,

[00:12:15] dancing, doing the moves that I was 

[00:12:17] trying to do. And they’re dancing,

[00:12:19] you know, they’re doing this piece.  Know, it’s called a Clair de Lune. And the name of the piece was called the Claire.

[00:12:25] The beginning of this is hip hop in the middle of this gooey sweet piece of classical music. And at the end of this hip hop and they were on the middle section and I see this guy go out there on the skateboard and he’s has in the air and do some guy labor on, on the skateboard and the whole audience just erupts, you know, and for me that was that little light bulb that said, I think that’s what I want to know.

[00:12:44] I know I want to do that, but if it wasn’t for, you know, My curiosity or even dance me getting into that dancing, you know, I wouldn’t even have been exposed to that, you know, but that was a little light bulb. So, you know, I

[00:12:54] think I want to do that, 

[00:12:55]Dane Reis: [00:12:55] beautiful. Well, Well, that segues us really easily. And I think he might’ve just given it away, but your spotlight moment , that, that one time you realized, yeah, this is what I need to be doing for a living or what I want to be doing as an entertainer. Is it that moment?

[00:13:09]Jorge Casco: [00:13:09] that movie alongside with, I saw a movie. And there was this movie called , uh, beat street. And I remember sitting there and just seeing this little clip of this movie and there was these guys dancing and there’s the scene where they’re just, they’re just dancing. Right. And they’re spinning on their heads and stuff.

[00:13:26] And I remember just like catching, like maybe like 30 seconds of it, and then like the channel switch. And that sparked my curiosity. And then going to, going to school. I saw a group of guys, third dancing that I moved to these apartments and I seen them doing some moves and I was like, okay, that’s pretty interesting.

[00:13:41] And then walking, you know, with that same group, you know, I I was still shy at the time, but I think that seeing them and trying to do some of those rules, but then seeing it on that stage. It was just, and it seen as the reaction of those people is like 5,000 people out there.

[00:13:55] Just screaming. I was just blown away by that. I think that was, you know, I think a combination from watching that video got my interest. And then it’s funny because in my area where I grew up at. There was a lot of gang activity, right? There’s a lot of, there’s a lot of , uh, grew up in a pretty rough area in Los Angeles and then moved to Houston, Texas, you know, in the early nineties.

[00:14:18] And I remember leaving LA thinking, we were going to come to Texas and it was going to be, you know, cows and cactuses and all kinds of stuff. And it, and it really wasn’t that, you know, it was the total opposite. It’s like, man, I just left one neighborhood and went to another, you know, you know, and then. That apartment complex, where I lived, it just so happened to be, to have like this dance group that was like very, very popular.

[00:14:38] And it was like the only apartment complex there, there was like uh, , uh, the other party coffees has had a gang say we had, we had, we had all kinds of stuff there too, but it was the only apartments that had like, like these breakdancers that lived in there. So, and we were, it’s funny because we’re, we’re looking at different places to live in this, like.

[00:14:54] You know, we can only afford a certain certain amount. And then we ended up living there and it’s like,the coincidence is like it, get there. Boom, there’s all this negative stuff happening around me. But this dance, somehow it was calling me, you know, why did I, why did I click the channel? And that, you know, out of all the bullies, that thing was there, you know? you know?

[00:15:10]And then I move into these apartments and now I got class at one of the guys and I’m like sitting there like. You guys are, the ones are destined at lunch. Like, yeah, man, you know, come hang out with us, you know? And they were just really, you know, you know, welcoming and you know, they weren’t trying to get me into trouble, you know, they would just stay away from that stuff.

[00:15:23]Let’s, let’s go over here. That felt like it was my

[00:15:25] colleague, you know, 

[00:15:26] Dane Reis: [00:15:26] Oh, I love that story. So good. And let’s. Piggy back on that real quick and talk about your number one, booked it moment. Walk us through that day. What was going on in your life? And what about that moment? It makes it your favorite. Booked it moment.

[00:15:43]Jorge Casco: [00:15:43] This was , uh, it was already, you know, a few years into me performing, you know, and yeah. At the time we had fly was around in the earliest is 35 and in the two thousands, like 2006, it went into a hiatus. So. From 2012, you know, I was able to step in and talk to the owners of the company and took it over.

[00:16:02] And as, as owner and kind of, we basically just added like the name, a piece of paper saying that I won’t fly. So then rebuilding the team with my two business partners, Chris partisan, out of Curos. We built it up to where, okay. Where we started with a small tour that tour elevated us to get an agency work with an agency.

[00:16:23] We level that we honor that contract. We start moving up and we got the contract with the state of the state department and we’re moving forward. But then in the midst of that, I remember having conversations with, with our team in earlier years saying, Hey, you know, one day. I’m going to see us performing with the symphonies, you know, and I remember as live, we were in this small little apartment.

[00:16:45] And basically like you could touch the wall and the other one, it’s like a kitchen,

[00:16:51] the 

[00:16:51] living room, 

[00:16:52] Dane Reis: [00:16:52] once. Yeah. 

[00:16:53]Jorge Casco: [00:16:53] you know what I mean? The crazy thing is like we’re sitting in our apartment, but like it’s an office, so there’s no living room. There’s just. You know, a computer or laptop or washer and dryer. So we were like sitting out on a imagine like three guys sitting like on these, on boxes of like shirts and costumes.

[00:17:09] And then there’s another washer and dryer someone’s sitting on top of there and I’m sitting on the desk and the other guy is sitting in the chair and we’re like, we have a dry erase board and we’re writing down everything, all our. Everything we want to do is it’s so far, it’s like, we’re okay. We want a tour, boom, inducted off.

[00:17:24] We want to perform overseas. Boom. We knocked that out. We want to, you know, international and work with the state department. Boom, boom, everything that we said that they looked back, but we’re just knocking off the list. Not enough to let’s knock it off the list, you know, and like looking back at it now, it was just an emotional moment.

[00:17:38] But. I remember saying, okay, we’re going to go and we’re going to work with symphonies. I remember the guys, they tell the story now, like we thought you were nuts, buddy. You know, we don’t know who you don’t know. You know, we, we, we, we had, we had your back, we understand that, you know, we’re with you, man, but now you’re talking a little out of it.

[00:17:53] Okay. We don’t know where this is going. Right. So we fast forward, we go to this book conference and we were there for two years in a row. And this third year, it’s really hard to kind of, to make a name for yourself and just, you know, it’s called APAC, do your conference, where agents, presenters, managers, and, you know, theaters, they all go there.

[00:18:12] They booked these acts, right? It’s expensive. No one wants to go and there’s fees and all kinds of stuff. Right? So you want to kind of have a, you want to be consistent and you want to be in the same booth every year. Well, Well, this particular year we didn’t get our boots. And we were very upset about that.

[00:18:28] And , um, for whatever reason, they didn’t have it available. Uh, I think the boots rain from like 800 to $2,500, you know, and we had $800 budget. So that’s like, that’s how we can afford. Cause we still got to fly out there, you know, showcase and all kinds of stuff. In years in new York’s expensive and for a little company that could we’re, we’re saving on our peanuts, all their coins, saving all our performances, every class, and we throwing it back into this company.

[00:18:50] So we’re. We’re like, okay, man, we can’t , um, I can’t, we have to have this booth and then we try to get it for like a month. I ended up scheduled to try it for this particular conference. Everything got sold out months ahead of time. So I think we were a few days later or something and yeah, we just got rid of that.

[00:19:07] We can’t, we have something upstairs and we didn’t know, we were like, man, we want to be upstairs. It turns out well, that’s where you need to be. This is where all the major players are up there. Right. So, and it’s the three there’s three floors, you know, it’s a first floor, second floor, third floor. So, you know, I’ve been to this conference before as a performer, but never as a director.

[00:19:23] So now I’m like, okay, I guess let’s go up there and see what happens. This is so we’re in a, we’re in a, the booth right across the way was Randy chaplain for Randy and Chaplet entertainment. And this man. Amazing man. And he was a yo-yo MA’s agent for awhile. You did have maybe 10 or 15 years with the Morris agency.

[00:19:43] He worked at ICM, one of the top agents in the business. He’s actually the one that did all the symphony engagements for, for the Morris agency. You know, there’s a real big agency in New York now. The guy next to me is telling me how great this guy is, but I don’t really know, you know, so I’m sitting there and I’m looking at his roster here, you know, Marie Osmond, you know of, I mean, you name it some top backs, you know, excuse me.

[00:20:07]Um, he has a lot of people on his roster, you know, from a, he pays it. Pretty much booked everybody , um, with the symphonies, you know what I mean? You can go to the site and check it out, but so we’re sitting there. And , I’ve been looking at his booth and every 15 minutes he has, you know, somebody coming in and meeting with them.

[00:20:24] Now, you know, we had a really good rapport for fly has, you know, in the earlier years and everything. So we had a lot of people coming up to us as well, you know, but everybody else is kind of quiet. So he’s noticing that these young guys were in like our late twenties at this time, you know, who is this?

[00:20:37] Three dudes standing there at his booth. Everybody else there’s kind of, you know, gray hair, older gentleman, the only women and like, who are these young guys? And they have their food just kind of, it’s kinda like you got some traffic going on, you know? So he comes by and he’s like, let me tell you something.

[00:20:52] It’s like, come here. He was like, have you ever thought of dancing with symphonies? I almost fell out on my. I almost fainted, you know? And I, he, so I’m trying to keep my composure. I’m literally doing backflips in my head. I’m like, this is what I’ve always wanted. You know what I mean? And then he’s just, he’s just like, he’s like trying to sell it to me.

[00:21:11] Look, man, gotta go look, this is my roster. This is all the people that I have. And then they got the time you’re like David Hasselhoff. Yeah. Yeah, he still has Rita Moreno, you know, Academy award winner, you know,Grammy, or like she has all like the seven, you know, grimy Tony , this, this and that, you know, she had like all kinds of acts, you know, the list goes on his own and.

[00:21:32] He’s telling me all these people that I’m like, Oh, wow, this is pretty interesting people you got here. And they’re all musicians, no dancers. And I’m just like, he’s like, yeah. He’s like, what if we did something to where I can get the symphonies? You bring the guys, they will do some collaborations. And it was like that second right there to where I just, I closed my eyes and I could see it.

[00:21:52]Like, I, I visualize us performing with symphonies as well. Sheila’s touring the world. I see us going , like,it’s just like one of those lights real quick. Boom. Right. And kind of snap out of it and he gives me this card and I just gave him like a smirk. And he like, he’s like, he’s like, all right kid. Like I like, , like, I got it.

[00:22:09] Do you understand what you just did? Look, call me. Right. So it, that was the initial moment. It took us three years to get everything ready to start. So we started our first, we did our first symphony, 2018 and the minutes and the midst of all of that. It was like, Hey, call me in three months. Um, I’m re staffing, boom.

[00:22:28] Call them in three months. After that, it’s like call me in six months. I got to honor these contracts and I can give you my undivided attention. Six months called, Hey, what’s up? Ready? Okay. I need them. That’s a video. I need this, this that, get it done. Call me in three months, call them in three months.

[00:22:40] Okay. I got this video. I reached out to a local orchestra here, the city to get some experience, we put a show or an event together. There was six access he’s all right, give me some footage. And I said that the footage , uh, we need. A different type. So it’s like, he’s just giving me a play by play. And it took almost like three years for us to get it there.

[00:22:57] Get us there now to where, you know, now the symphonies are rolling in, you know, we started, you know, 20, 20 was our year, but obviously with the whole COVID thing, you know, we’re reassessing, but you know, we’re this year we have the Missouri symphony, the Toledo symphony. We have a Florida. Hold at Florida orchestra symphony and we have the young sounds there for the, so just for this year, you know, next year we’re probably going to double and triple those.

[00:23:21] So it’s just been a wild ride, but having him, you know, long story long, like I said, to have that meeting. You know, and then for it to be like, okay, we weren’t even supposed to be there in the first place. We ended up up there and we’re all right. Let’s just, just keep pushing through. And then he approaches us. We didn’t even approach him. He approached us. He’s like, man, I like this. Look, these guys in these tuxedos, you know, and I see that you guys got a lot of traffic here.

[00:23:48]Like, let me tell you, so he’s pitching it to me. I’m in my mind, I’m like, You had me

[00:23:53] at hay. 

[00:23:54] Dane Reis: [00:23:54] yeah.

[00:23:56] Jorge Casco: [00:23:56] So that’s, and we’re great friends to this day, man. He’s, he’s such, he took a gamble and not even a gamble, he just took, he just, he gave us that opportunity. You know, we just got off the road right now. We were in Berlin , uh, Burlington, Iowa, and the lady there, Ms.

[00:24:11]Uh, Barbara McRoberts. She’s such a beautiful person. And I was telling her it’s like, don’t know if he really understand. What you’re doing when you, when you book a group like flights and she’s like, Oh , well, tell me, I said, look. The fact that you said yes to us, right. Means that when we went to that school who went to those, to their dance studio and we worked with those kids, we exposed them to something positive where, you know, maybe 90% of those kids in those, in that, in those classes attended the concert.

[00:24:40] Now we’re building these memories with them, right? And then you saying yes to us, you know, the community here came to see fly. Now they’re going back. We had kids and people dancing in the hall and, you know, down to aisles and stuff, you know, afterwards, you know, they all stuck around and took pictures with the guys COVID safe.

[00:24:56] Of course, you know, but it was one of those things. Things that I was like, I don’t know if you understood when you booked this, because it’s like, it’s not just you bringing us here, but you’re validating this and letting people know like, Hey, you know, just our form is real, you know? And, and these guys are doing positive things with that, you know?

[00:25:09]So every time that we booked, I was thinking those presenters,  you know, we write it. Handwritten. Thank you. No, thank you so much. I don’t know if you call how important this is. I hope you know what you’re doing and you, these kids that you know, that I have this dream, you know, I always wanted to do this.

[00:25:25] Once I was exposed to this, I was like, one day I’m going to run the company. You know, my friends rolled down the Hill that day at malarkey theater and you know, 20 years later I’m actually doing it, you know, and it hasn’t been an easy journey. You know, but it’s like every time these, these presenters book us, you know, it’s like you’re impacting the youth is, that’s why I think that’s so important, you know, in working with the symphonies.

[00:25:41] Cause it’s putting that stamp on flyers, putting that stamp on the hip hop that this movement, you know, that this culture is here. Say it’s a billion dollar business. It’s not going anywhere. And a lot of the imagery is negative. So why not? Push the positive side of it, which way was intended to be, you know, self-identity, you know, self-expression, you know, culture love and respect of your community, you know, and we’re just honored to be able to do that.

[00:26:03]Dane Reis: [00:26:03] Oh, that’s so good. I think that story is amazing. That that journey that you and fly has had is absolutely like, it’s like a storybook. It’s a so good. And. I want to move on to the present and talk about what you got going on. Now. It sounds like you guys are incredibly busy and it’s still, you know, amidst this global pandemic.

[00:26:27]How do you, how do you see the entertainment industry moving forward in the next couple of years with everything opening up again?

[00:26:33]Jorge Casco: [00:26:33] . I see the industry moving in more of a digital space. I see a lot of companies adapting to that. You have to, if you don’t adapt to it, you know, it’s going to be hard for you to continue when. When there are moments like this, right?

[00:26:45] So for us, it pushed us to, to go towards our podcast. As we started our podcast. Now we’re also creating all our programs or educational classes, workshops, residencies in a digital platform to where you can a school or a venue could, can , uh, come to our site, you know, or reach out to us and they can lease our virtual classes to where we send them, you know, a.

[00:27:07] A list of programs that we offer. Whereas hip hop, dance, art, music, you know, different things, different programs that we offer. And then. Whether it’s prerecorded, or we could do a, something that’s already, you know, that we could do , uh, like a zoom call with, right. That was a zoom class or something. So those are things that, that kinda pushed us into more of that digital space.

[00:27:27]Right. So allowed us to do those things, which I think is beneficial because now it’s creating other streams of income, you know, that we can actually , um, Have access to them before it was just basically like merge performances and things of that nature. Now we have merged performances, you know, and you know, these other sources to where we could get generate some income.

[00:27:46] So I think has been a great experience for us, a great learning experience. It hasn’t been easy of course. Um, but if you get it going, it can be very, very

[00:27:54] lucrative, you know? 

[00:27:55] Dane Reis: [00:27:55] Yeah, very cool. And it is time to move on to one of my favorite sections in the interview. I call it the grease lightning round. I am going to ask you a handful of questions. I want you to answer them as quickly and concisely as possible one after another. Are you ready? 

[00:28:13]Jorge Casco: [00:28:13] Yes, sir. 

[00:28:14] Dane Reis: [00:28:14] All right. First question. What was the one thing holding you back from committing to a career as an entertainer?

[00:28:20] Jorge Casco: [00:28:20] Myself. I think I just overthought it, but once I said, that’s what I’m gonna do. I

[00:28:24] did it.

[00:28:24]Dane Reis: [00:28:24] Hmm. Second question. What is the best piece of advice you have ever received?

[00:28:30] Jorge Casco: [00:28:30] Before I was be a student when you stop learning,

[00:28:33] you stop living. 

[00:28:34] Dane Reis: [00:28:34] ah, so true. Third question. What is something that is working for you right now? Or if you’d like to go pre COVID, what was working for you before our industry went on? Pause

[00:28:45]Jorge Casco: [00:28:45] I think for me, one of the biggest too is LinkedIn. You know, we can reach out to all the professionals and look for all kinds of leads

[00:28:51] and contacts. 

[00:28:52] Dane Reis: [00:28:52] Oh, yeah, absolutely. Fourth question. What is it your best resource? Whether that is a book, a movie, a YouTube video, maybe a podcast or a piece of technology you found is helping your career right now.

[00:29:05]Jorge Casco: [00:29:05] Uh, yeah, I think that podcasts are very informative and then actually watching the podcasts on the actual YouTube to see kind of how they put your clips together. That helps us that. And then, like I said, like that’s great and, you know, reading all types of books, you know, just , uh, things that, that are gonna allow you to kind of build your craft for anything.

[00:29:22] Inspirational books are great too.

[00:29:25]Dane Reis: [00:29:25] And the fifth question, if you had to start your career from scratch, but you still had all. The knowledge and experience you’ve collected from your career in this industry, what would you do or not do? Would you do anything differently or would you keep it the same

[00:29:40]Jorge Casco: [00:29:40] I would say more money. Bottom line. I would save it, save more and invest more. You

[00:29:47] know, that’s what I would do. 

[00:29:48] Dane Reis: [00:29:48] for sure. And the last one, what is the golden nugget knowledge drop you’ve learned from your successful career in this industry? You’d like to leave with our listeners.

[00:29:59]Jorge Casco: [00:29:59] Don’t give up, don’t give up. It’s not an easy road, you know, and nothing in life is easy, but if you, you know, if you set your standards high, you know, you know, will never be perfect. Um, Just, you know, understand that, let excellence be your floor strive for perfection. We’ll never be perfect, but at least if you try, you know, you’ll be further along than you were, you were, you were not happy or we’re further along to where we were.

[00:30:21]You know, we still got along places, you know, a a lot more learning to do, but you know, or at least we’re, we’re moving forward and, you know, and living our

[00:30:27] dreams, You know?

[00:30:27]Dane Reis: [00:30:27] yes. You said, let excellence be your floor. I love that. And to wrap up this interview, Jorge, it is time to give yourself a plug. Where can we find you? How do our listeners connect with. Do you, is there anything you want to promote?

[00:30:43] Jorge Casco: [00:30:43] Just go to our website , uh, fly dance F L Y D a N C E C O M P a N Find us on Instagram at. Allied dance company, same spelled the same F L Y D a N T E M P a N Y. And look for us Matt discussions, podcasts on all streaming services and that’s where you can

[00:31:07] find this. 


[00:31:09] Dane Reis: [00:31:09] And for everyone listening out there, I have put the links to everything. Jorge just said into the description of this episode. . So you can go check out, fly and connect with them. Also be sure to share this podcast with your fellow entertainers, coaches, teachers, arts, and entertainment educators, and anyone, you know, you know, aspiring to create a career in the entertainment industry.

[00:31:31] You booked. It is the number one resource of expertise on how to actually create a successful entertainment career case in point. Everything Jorge dropped a day. He’s incredible journey through this industry. If you enjoyed this episode, hit that subscribe button. So you don’t miss the next one. Jorge, thank you so much for jumping on doing this interview.

[00:31:54] I’m so glad that we got connected.

[00:31:57]Jorge Casco: [00:31:57] Absolutely. Thank you so much for , uh, for, you know, for given no doing your podcast. And you know, this is an amazing tool for everyone. Who’s trying to get into business, someone who’s in the business. So please, please, please support you. Booked it on all your 

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