Trent Mills

EP 20: Trent Mills

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Trent Mills

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[00:01:22] Let’s do this. All righty. Let’s get started. I am excited to introduce my guest today. Trent mills, are you ready for this trend? 

[00:01:33] Trent Mills: [00:01:33] Oh, you better 

[00:01:34] Dane Reis: [00:01:34] believe it. Yeah. Trent is an actor, singer and musical theater coach. Most recently he played Marcellus in music, man, starring Adam Pascal and voice the character of LiRo row for the upcoming anime series.

[00:01:49] Tower of God. Other favorite credits include Shrek in Shrek, the musical Casey in swing, the musical Ash in the evil, dead, the musical national tour, and lots of wonderful concerts at Rockwell 54 below Joe’s pub triad and more. 

[00:02:08] Trent Mills: [00:02:08] He’s 

[00:02:08] Dane Reis: [00:02:08] performed improv in various New York city hotspots, and has also worked in many roles in film and TV production.

[00:02:16] He graduated from the Boston conservatory in 2011 with a BFA in musical. Okay. Trent. That is a quick intro of who you are and what you’ve done, but why don’t you tell us a little bit more about yourself, a fill in the gaps, who you are, where you’re from, where you’re currently calling home and a little bit more about what you do as a professional in the entertainment industry.

[00:02:40] Trent Mills: [00:02:40] Absolutely Dane. Uh, yeah. So I’m an actor, I’m a singer, I’m a voiceover artist. Um, currently I’m in LA though. I still spend some time in New York as well. And honestly, I’m not really sure from anywhere. Uh, I moved, uh, I moved a couple of dozen times growing up and I spent a lot of my child’s. Wow. Yeah. Sort of in the West and Utah and Nevada, I lived in Vegas for a while, actually as a kid.

[00:03:05] California and then one time in Florida, but I don’t talk. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. And then, um, of course recently, in addition to being an actor and a singer, uh, actually before the pandemic hit, I started becoming a musical theater coach as well. My, my wonderful girlfriend has been, uh, voice teacher and a piano teacher for many years and, uh, started kicking over these students to start giving them acting coaching.

[00:03:31] And, um, I. I just started doing that pandemic hit. And now that has been, the majority of my time is working, doing that running intensives. And then I do these masterclasses where I invite, okay. A lot of these friends of mine who were working on Broadway and they lost their jobs. And so now I have, um, a plethora of good friends to run masterclasses around as well for my students.

[00:03:57] Yeah. Yeah. So that’s kind of what I’m up to, uh, at the moment. Fantastic. 

[00:04:03] Dane Reis: [00:04:03] Okay, well, let’s move on to this next section and look, I am a sucker for a good quote. What’s your favorite quote? You’d like to share with our listeners.

[00:04:12] Trent Mills: [00:04:12] Ooh, I love this quote. I’m a sucker too, for a good quote. I’m a big like rom Doss Tony Robbins guy, and they always have the zingers, but this one is my favorite.

[00:04:22] If it’s worth doing it’s worth doing poorly. And that is you expand on that. Absolutely. So what that means is the, just do it. I know for me in my life, I’ve spent a lot of time. Okay. Fearful of not doing something correctly and it causes me not to act at all. So writing a script or doing comedy, you’re doing a standup set or something like that.

[00:04:45] And basically that quote is if it’s worth doing it’s worth doing poorly, meaning just do it because you’re never going to sink your way into being good. You have to just start acting. And it’s a very. It’s an amazing quote. It’s one of my favorite things and I don’t know who said it, but a mentor of mine told me that when I first started working him with him some years ago, I love 

[00:05:06] Dane Reis: [00:05:06] that.

[00:05:06] It’s almost, it’s kind of like the. The analysis paralysis, a problem that I believe Robert Kiyosaki talks about 

[00:05:13] Trent Mills: [00:05:13] that a lot. Yeah. Mmm. 

[00:05:15] Dane Reis: [00:05:15] Well, yeah, you just can’t overthink things, just throw it out there. See what happens. See what sticks. 

[00:05:19] Trent Mills: [00:05:19] Yeah, exactly. No, and that goes for anything in my life. I mean, that’s applied to so many things it’s so, you know, whether that’s exercise or, you know, I need to call someone, you know, or I started meditating some years ago and I was, well, I don’t know how to do it.

[00:05:34] And then I just started doing it, you know, writing. And then that can be anything. And I think that kind of the point of that quote is too, is that right? And this is another quote. This is actually a quote from a, another book, but I’ll talk about that later. It’s you can’t sink your way into better acting.

[00:05:51] You can act your way and better thinking. And I think, okay. It’s kind of the point of that. 

[00:05:57] Dane Reis: [00:05:57] Absolutely. 

[00:05:58] Trent Mills: [00:05:58] Absolutely. Yeah. Idea. Love 

[00:06:00] Dane Reis: [00:06:00] it. Well, let’s move to this next section. And Trent, of course, you’re an entertainer. I’m an entertainer. And I think you’d agree. This industry is one of the most subjective, brutally, honest, personally emotional industries, either of us know about.

[00:06:17] And. You know, as well as I yeah. To create and to have a successful career in this industry, like you’re having now, it takes a lot of dedication and hard work and wild. Yeah, for sure. There is an outrageous amount of fun and excitement being an entertainer. There are also our fair share of obstacles and challenges and failures.

[00:06:40] We are going to experience and we’re going to have to move forward through them if we want to continue doing this professionally. So tell us what is one key challenge, obstacle or failure you’ve experienced in your career and how did you come out the other side better because of it. 

[00:06:58] Trent Mills: [00:06:58] So I, I, I can say, you know, I have a million of these, honestly.

[00:07:05] I mean, obstacles can be anything and, you know, you’re a bigger guy too, but we’re very different in that sense, but you know, I’m a massive man. I’m six, four. I, you know, I’m just a huge person that that’s, that can be an obstacle. But I think everything for me, especially the really rough part of my life for me actually was a addiction.

[00:07:24] And which had a lot to do with the negative thought patterns. I was going through the biggest struggle. And a lot of my failures actually were rooted in that before I decided to get help. You know, so I struggled with that my whole life, it was like started with TV and food as a kid, you know, I’d watch TV instead of doing my homework, I just needed to fill some void.

[00:07:46] I found drugs early on, but I didn’t develop problem until I was, you know, in the last two years of my college years, which. Again, it’s hard to realize that in the environment, in the society we live in where it’s sort of championed, right. I did drink a lot the night before and then wake up and do stuff.

[00:08:05] It’s sort of like, you’re a trooper at a certain point. It became the all consuming priority in my life. And that was at a really crucial moment in my life. Actually, it was when I had gotten out of college, I’d done showcase. I’d gotten an agent. And I started being called in for really big things. And I like, for instance, just an example, like I got through these callbacks for a book of Mormon on Broadway or elder price at that time.

[00:08:29] Yeah. And, uh, it went really well, but there was the one last callback where I was having such bad shakes because I had drank so much the night before and I believe it was no wording Adderall or something at the time. And came in and couldn’t get my hands to stop shaking. No, no, it was never called back into that office again.

[00:08:48] So there’s a lot of moments like that in that period, you know, lost relationships, career health, and then I would say. At a certain point about, you know, in my room, mid twenties, I got really lucky and I hit rock bottom. I lost everything, relationships, jobs, nobody was calling me anymore. You know what I mean?

[00:09:09] I had done, I just done this cruise line contract Disney cruise lines. And, um, and it was, it did not go well for me. I, I got through it, I got my money and I got off, but things really ramped up when I got back to New York. And, uh, I hit a bottom where it just realized that. I had no control over my life.

[00:09:29] And then, you know, and that has a lot. Yeah. And I’ll go on and deeper into that later, but I realized that I could not help myself for the first time in my life. I realized I can not get myself out of this. So for me, I began like a 12 step program and I quickly, very quickly discovered that the alcohol, the drugging, all that stuff was just a symptom of a much deeper.

[00:09:52] This sort of deep seated innate cycle in my life. Okay. Includes holding onto grudges and comparing myself to other people thinking you’re a victim. Um, you know, and, and, and more so than anything, like I said before, thinking that I had control over all these aspects in my life, which to me, I’ve realized.

[00:10:12] Is false. So yeah. You know, you’re trying, if you put it in theater terms, you’re trying to play the director and the actor and the producer and the lighting designer and the stage manager in your own life. And it does not work out yeah. Too much. Yeah, seriously. So that, that basically once I was able to understand that gain some tools to deal with the addiction issues, um, that sort of.

[00:10:37] Led me to deep dive into personal work and thinking about other people, which is an important, and you know, working every day, essentially, I have to work every day.  those? That was nasty. Negative thoughts. Okay. Gratitude lists or meditation. I do some sort of form of prayer. I’m not religious, but I’m spiritual.

[00:10:59] Okay. Okay. That that’s right. Then the biggest game changer in life creatively. Career, I mean everything and it still comes up, you know, food, my phone, too much self centered thinking, wanting immediate results, you know, just in patients in general. But, um, that sort of was the catalyst to me, uh, to work on bettering myself first, I think.

[00:11:30] Dane Reis: [00:11:30] Absolutely. Well, thank you so much for sharing that story. 

[00:11:33] Trent Mills: [00:11:33] Yeah, absolutely man. Yeah, no, I have no problem with it talking about it. It’s a, it really is. It’s a it’s it’s the truth is, is that you don’t need to have a life threatening addiction or something to, to work through something like that, where to find these tools.

[00:11:49] I count myself lucky that I had to be desperate. Fair enough. To be willing, to, uh, learn really, to be willing, to learn from others and ask for help. I think that’s the biggest key to life is being like. I need help and then learning and then moving on. 

[00:12:05] Dane Reis: [00:12:05] Absolutely. And I think that applies to quite literally all aspects of life, whether that is something internally, an addiction, some kind of inner turmoil, or if it’s simply, I don’t really know how to do this, and it’s very, almost superficial, but to ask for the help and 

[00:12:23] Trent Mills: [00:12:23] that’s how we grow.

[00:12:25] Absolutely. And, and it’s a miserable day when you think you’ve figured it all out. That is. Typically the dumbest person in the room is the one that thinks they know the most. Yeah. I don’t remember whose quote, so true. 

[00:12:38] Dane Reis: [00:12:38] So true. All right. Well, let’s move on to this next section. Do a time that I like to call your spotlight moment.

[00:12:47] That one moment in time you realized, yes, I am going to be an entertainer for a living or maybe it was yes. This is what I need to be doing as an entertainer. Tell us about that. 

[00:13:02] Trent Mills: [00:13:02] Absolutely. I can tell you precisely the moment, six years old, it was my birthday party. I was unwrapping presence and I made it pretty amazing joke where I said fastest rapper in the West.

[00:13:15] Yeah. I remember this very specifically in my aunt laughed and she said I was so funny. This is silly, but I remember the feeling inside of me, like fed me. I was like, yes, I can make people laugh. And Zen, I immediately cracked another joke and I don’t remember what that one was, but I remember it crashed and burned.

[00:13:36] It was like, it was like, in that moment, I learned both. I love to entertain. And then I, I immediately learned what it was like to bomb. And that was the moment that clearly sticks out in my mind. That is my memory. It’s not a story. Anybody tells me that’s the first time I was like, I am born too. It started with comedy.

[00:13:55] For me. It always has been. It’s developed into other sort of art forms, but that was it. It was the first moment 

[00:14:01] Dane Reis: [00:14:01] I love that. You just got it all way all out of the way, 

[00:14:04] Trent Mills: [00:14:04] right up front, truthfully. And you know, honestly that need hasn’t, it hasn’t changed that that need and a want has not changed. Now, the avenues in which I take that has changed drastically this year, and even within the past few years, and the art forms may have changed a little bit from.

[00:14:23] From theater to film, to voiceover, to singing, to whatever writing, but it’s the same inherent neat. It’s been there since I was six. For 

[00:14:35] Dane Reis: [00:14:35] sure. Well, let’s piggyback on that question and let’s talk about your number one, booked it moment. 

[00:14:43] Trent Mills: [00:14:43] Walk us through that 

[00:14:44] Dane Reis: [00:14:44] day, the audition and callbacks. If those happened to be a part of it, what was going on in your life?

[00:14:50] And what about that moment? Makes it your favorite? Booked it moment. 

[00:14:56] Trent Mills: [00:14:56] Okay. Yeah, I think, okay, so this, this, this isn’t the biggest job, quote, unquote I’ve ever booked by any means, but this was an incredible moment in my life. So. Aye. So I was in New York for like six years and I did a Disney cruise contract at the beginning.

[00:15:10] Vowed, never to do a cruise again. Cause it didn’t, it didn’t do well for me. But then as you, and I know I got desperate, it wasn’t booking the work in New York I needed. And another cruise contract came up for like, it was Norwegian cruise lines, this job, um, they were doing a show called swaying and it was like the Broadway cast or whatever.

[00:15:28] And I was like, well, that’s good or not the Broadway, the Broadway director. And I was like, great. Okay, well, I kind of talked myself into it. I really need the money. I could work with this person when the truth is I just needed to get out of New York. Um, I was on the cruise and I gotta be honest, had a really tough time.

[00:15:47] I actually ended up getting very, very ill and I had to be medically disembarked Seattle for a month. Um, and when I got, yeah, I had discovered they had. There some contractual things that were shady. I’ll just say that. And I had, and dating someone that had left the ship at the time and I was already thinking, I was like, I don’t know if I should be here.

[00:16:08] This doesn’t feel right. And out of the blue man, I got out email from the creators of evil, dead, the musical that we’re trying to launch this new national tour of the show. And they said, Hey, this is weird. We got your name from actually a couple of different sources. We’ve been trying to cast the lead actor in that his name is Ash four months now.

[00:16:30] And we can’t seem to find the right tech is a really specific role. You have to be able to do really specific. Right. And you also have to look a certain way. Bruce Campbell played him originally, you gotta have a chin, blah, blah, blah. And they were like, yeah, this is weird. But before we launched this very expensive nationwide search, we figured we’d shoot you an email and see what you’re up to.

[00:16:52] And I said, fuck, Hey, I’m actually on this cruise ship, but honestly I might be willing to leave. So I, they had sent me material and I went to the whole of the ship, literally engines. You know how it is down there, down at the, yeah.  there was like a, a, I don’t remember, it was like a storage room, you know, with NetApp and stuff.

[00:17:14] I got. The online onboard pianist to bring us tea poured down. And he played the tracks for me. And over the course of a few weeks, they sent me notes. I filmed it again, did the notes, and then they offered me the role and I immediately left the ship. Yeah. I started that tour, which actually the whole of that tour, um, with traveling and doing that, that I’m sort of kicked off.

[00:17:42] Me ending up, you know, moving to LA I’m just made me realize that my okay, Mike, my success is what I want to make it. And I didn’t like living in New York. And I think doing that traveling made me realize, Oh, you know what? I think it’s time to just do my own thing. And it’s a real underground show. So it was another thing I realized about myself.

[00:18:02] I was like, you know, maybe I’m not a mainstream guy. Maybe I’m like a, a punk rock actor. And that’s okay too, because that’s. You know, it takes all kinds in this industry. 

[00:18:12] Dane Reis: [00:18:12] Absolutely. I love that story and right when the timing’s right, you just gotta make the decision and go, right? 

[00:18:18] Trent Mills: [00:18:18] Yeah. And it was an incredibly fulfilling role.

[00:18:20] It was just everything I love. And again, it’s not the biggest credit in the world, but it was, um, an incredibly important moment and exciting moment for me. Absolutely. 

[00:18:29] Dane Reis: [00:18:29] Well, let’s take a moment to talk about the present. What projects are you working on now? What are you looking forward to? And of course we are amidst this global pandemic.

[00:18:40] How do you see the entertainment industry moving forward in the next 

[00:18:44] Trent Mills: [00:18:44] couple of years? Yeah, of course. Well, um, the most recent thing I did, uh, I did just finish up a few of the, um, the last little pickups from, um, like I said, tower of God, which is an anime voice of character on it from yours. It premiered on crunchy roll a few weeks ago.

[00:19:01] They’re releasing the English dub know one episode at a time four is out now. So, um, that’s sort of the tail end of the VO stuff. Um, and then I’ve actually been working with a really great company. In LA they’re called, uh, after hours theater. Okay. That started as more or less a black box style, a theater company and has turned into this specific, really immersive theater company where they do really cool things before.

[00:19:30] COVID like a couple years ago, they did a, uh, a version of one flew over the Cuckoo’s nest, where they converted a. Warehouse in Burbank into a 19th in sixties asylum. Yeah. The guests came in as patients and retreated like that and it’s like half escape room, half immersive theater. Yeah. And so what they’ve been doing, and then they’ve actually been a little bit yeah.

[00:19:55] Uh, moving towards online stuff actually before any of the pandemic stuff. So last year they launched. A sync called pixel Playhouse. Yeah. Twitch, which I don’t know if you know what that is. It’s like a streaming gamer, a website. I don’t even totally understand it. People still stream. 

[00:20:14] Dane Reis: [00:20:14] Yeah. Every once in a while I’ll admit that, 

[00:20:18] Trent Mills: [00:20:18] but, you know, yeah.

[00:20:18] And so they were looking, yeah. Yeah. Twitch is owned by Amazon and they are, they were looking. Two get more, uh, entertainment and musical theater actually on, because we’re looking to expand the brand just from gaming. And I think some people are already doing that with like piano or like, you know, politicking requests, playing songs.

[00:20:38] And they developed something called the pixel Playhouse. And they, they do essentially just like weekly, uh, cabarets, you know, with various artists. And then that now has started morphing into doing these immersive online Twitch streams. So they started with, uh, importance of being earnest is sort of just like, yeah.

[00:20:59] Putting a foot in the water. And the thing I’m working on now is this, I don’t know what the title is actually yet, but it’s essentially, um, show about this group of people getting on zoom to have a reunion, um, high school reunion for their show. Uh, they did clues the musical in high school and then they’re all getting together and then.

[00:21:21] During the course of the show that gets sucked in to the game. And, uh, so yeah, they’re actually pushing, they’re using some of these like Tony award winning music, um, not Musica audio engineers and these really incredibly talented, um, engineers and lighting designers and there adapting their skills to moving forward this technology of streaming and making it profitable and how they can sort of make it an immersive experience.

[00:21:50] So. Yeah, the audience is interacting directly with the show as well. So that’s what we’re working on today. Actually, we have a reading for that today for the first time. There’s some really, uh, yeah, I mean, it’s just an embarrassment of riches of the people we can get to do it right now. Right. So I’m working on that.

[00:22:08] And honestly, I see that being more, uh, important art form. And I’ll tell you why it’s not just out of convenience and cost. It’s a cost effective for sure. But. The thing I like about it most and before any of this even happened either, is that okay? I couldn’t afford, I grew up in motels and stuff. I could not afford to go see a Broadway show as a kid.

[00:22:30] Mmm. But certainly I, you know, my parents, maybe they could afforded $15 stream of a really high quality production. You know, that’s what I love about. This sort of move to streaming is that it makes the art form more available to the rest of the country and to people in a lower economic place. It’s unfortunate.

[00:22:53] And I don’t want to rag on it too much. It’s unfortunate that the art form of theater coming from mostly, you know, Bohemians, there’s the poor, um, that are the actors working on it, playing. Purely just to the ultra wealthy, you know, as much as I love Hamilton, I mean, $200 a ticket. I mean, you know, I 

[00:23:14] Dane Reis: [00:23:14] have a story where I have a friend of mine who had friends that paid $4,500, her 

[00:23:20] Trent Mills: [00:23:20] ticket.

[00:23:21] That’s crazy. That’s crazy. That’s bunkers. And I’m glad that those, you know, I’m glad Lin Manuel’s making money. He should be. But yeah, who is that for, I think is, is what it really makes me sink. And a lot of the artwork that’s really good. The people that need to see it. Um, yeah. And you know, we’re, we’re going through these complexities social issues and some of these amazing plays, but people that can relate to it most can’t see it 

[00:23:47] Dane Reis: [00:23:47] for sure.

[00:23:49] I love that. Also with the streaming side of things that you still get. Live theater, you know, it’s it’s happening right now. It’s not prerecorded, right? 

[00:24:00] Trent Mills: [00:24:00] Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And that’s, that’s, what’s really cool about it and yeah, it’s happening in the moment. It is very different than, you know, say just watching something it’s even different than watching those live stream, those live performances of like hairspray that like NBC did or those kinds of things, because with like a Twitch stream or like watching it from your computer or your phone.

[00:24:20] Yes. The screen small, but. It’s the closest thing you can come to having that relationship between an audience and an actor on stage that, that TB films just can’t I get to, but again, nothing is gonna replace being in a room with somebody that’s just, it’s just not what I think this has come the closest two, emulating that.

[00:24:43] Dane Reis: [00:24:43] Yeah, for sure. I like that you brought up the fact that, you know, a lot of this art it has been created and is being performed by one. Usually it’s typically class of people and then it’s being performed for the wealthier people that can afford, you know, these crazy ticket prices. 

[00:25:00] Trent Mills: [00:25:00] Uh, I 

[00:25:01] Dane Reis: [00:25:01] think it would be nice to see in America to see more affordability in the theater, because I.

[00:25:08] When I was first went to university, I studied abroad in Vienna, Austria, and we used to go to the state opera house to go watch an opera. Sure. Yeah. Bring a book dress. Nice. And you got a line up for a couple hours, but I saw Juan Diego Florez, one of the best tenors in the world. . 

[00:25:29] Trent Mills: [00:25:29] Wow.  

[00:25:31] Dane Reis: [00:25:31] they have a whole section in these theaters that is standing room only.

[00:25:35] Is it a bit uncomfortable to watch a three and a half hour opera? Sure. But I’m getting to watch the best in the world for nothing. And I think you, I would love to see in this country more, more of a push to have this standing room kind of area that is properly. Really inexpensive. I agree. Even, even, even though 20 bucks can be quite cheap when you can,  two or $300 tickets, but even less than that.

[00:26:03] And of course it’s first come first serve. But having that available for the people I think is so important. 

[00:26:09] Trent Mills: [00:26:09] Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. What did I say? I think, I think I standing roomed, um, Bye. It’s still quite a few shows in New York, but yeah, it’s not used as that. It’s not using the same way. It’s just really like the overflow tickets and last minute buyers, they’re not by any means, uh, affordable costs.

[00:26:26] But, you know, yeah. Vienna is known, is known for that. I, in fact, I know quite a few, I’m sure you do as well, because we both went to school with a lot of opera singers, uh, that I know quite a few that ended up moving out there because not to get into this, but you know, the, um, what’d you call it B city in the country also believes in and supports their artists financially.

[00:26:50] And so it’s. It is encouraged. The arts are encouraged, which unfortunately it’s like we make art in spite of here, which is sometimes how it can feel. 

[00:27:02] Dane Reis: [00:27:02] Sure. Yeah. Well, let’s move on to one of my favorite sections in the interview. I call it the grease lightning round. Ooh. I am going to ask you a handful of questions.

[00:27:15] I want you to answer them as quickly and concisely as possible one after another. Okay. 

[00:27:21] Trent Mills: [00:27:21] Ready? Oh yeah. Give it to me. First 

[00:27:24] Dane Reis: [00:27:24] question. What was the one thing holding you back from committing to a career as an entertainer? 

[00:27:31] Trent Mills: [00:27:31] Addiction and fear. Sorry. That’s too. 

[00:27:33] Dane Reis: [00:27:33] That’s totally fine. Second question. What is the best piece of advice that you have ever received?

[00:27:40] Trent Mills: [00:27:40] Easy. Nobody cares what you’re up to. So stop caring. 

[00:27:46] Dane Reis: [00:27:46] So true. Third question. What is something that is working for you now, or if you’d like to go pre COVID, what was working for you before our industry went on? Pause. 

[00:27:59] Trent Mills: [00:27:59] Meditation trusting my gut. I 

[00:28:02] Dane Reis: [00:28:02] love meditation. I’m right there with you. Yeah. Fourth question.

[00:28:06] What is the best resource? Whether that is a book, a movie, a YouTube video podcast, maybe it’s a piece of technology that you found is helping your career right now. Actually 

[00:28:17] Trent Mills: [00:28:17] I’d say the Pete Holmes podcast, pretty fire, and it’s much more of a spiritual mixture, the entertainment podcast, but I just love his style.

[00:28:26] Big fan. Fantastic. 

[00:28:29] Dane Reis: [00:28:29] And the fifth question, if you had to start your career from scratch, but you still have all the knowledge and experience you’ve collected from your career in this industry, 

[00:28:40] Trent Mills: [00:28:40] what would 

[00:28:41] Dane Reis: [00:28:41] you do or not do? Would you do anything differently or would you keep it the same? 

[00:28:46] Trent Mills: [00:28:46] Ooh, this is going to cut controversial.

[00:28:49] Yes. I would not have paid to go to college. I would have moved directly to New York, paid for classes out of pocket. And made the mistake much earlier. I made the decision much earlier. I should say to end up back in LA, if I’m being completely honest, those loans, as you know, actually pretty much dictate a lot of your life probably 20 years after you’re done.

[00:29:14] Dane Reis: [00:29:14] Absolutely. Yeah. Okay. The last question. What is the golden nugget knowledge drop you’ve learned from your successful career in the industry that you’d like to leave with our listeners? 

[00:29:27] Trent Mills: [00:29:27] I would say, honestly, I’ll just double down on this stop caring about what you think other people want you to, because nobody does, everyone’s thinking about themselves.

[00:29:36] So stick to your gut. Do. What you want to do, because it’s only then that you end up flourishing and I guarantee you’ll hear that exact same sentiment and everyone you ever admire or love as a performer. Mmm. There’s always a point in that story where they’re just like, you know what, if it I’m doing my thing.

[00:29:55] Dane Reis: [00:29:55] Absolutely. And it is time to wrap up this interview, which means it’s also time for you. You give yourself a plug, where can we find you? How do our listeners connect with you? Is there anything you want to promote? 

[00:30:10] Trent Mills: [00:30:10] Sure. Yeah. So I’m, I’m on Instagram at, at giant trend. Uh, it’s two teas. Um, I am a giant. Okay.

[00:30:19] That’s really the only social media I do right now. Um, as I mentioned before, there’s the Twitch stream. Um, if you just follow pixel Playhouse on Instagram or on Twitch, um, you can get information about that show coming up and then you should definitely watch tower of God on crunchy roll, um, where I play Lee row, row.

[00:30:41] And that’s it. And also just, you know, is he a good person I’m going to plug that. 

[00:30:47] Dane Reis: [00:30:47] Yup. Thank you. We need, there’s a lot of good people out there, but we can always have some more. 

[00:30:54] Trent Mills: [00:30:54] Okay. Yeah. Beautiful 

[00:30:55] Dane Reis: [00:30:55] trend has been fantastic. Catching up with you, having you on today. Thank you so much, 

[00:31:00] Trent Mills: [00:31:00] Dane. Fantastic. Thank you so much for calling me.

[00:31:03] It was such a pleasure, man. Yeah. 

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