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EP 205: Desiree Staples (autogenerated)

[00:00:00] Dane Reis: You booked it episode 205. Okay. Let’s get this thing started. I am excited to introduce my guest today. Deseret staples. Are you ready for this Deseret? 

[00:00:16] Desiree Staples: I’m ready. Thanks for having me. 

[00:00:18] Dane Reis: Yeah, thanks for being here. Disarray is a producer, filmmaker, actress, and writer multihyphenate experienced in short form episodic and feature film content.

[00:00:30] Her works have regularly received a claim and global. Film festivals, successes she’s currently in pre-production for the comedy female-driven feature film. My divorce party that she’s also starring in Deseret is a proud member of sag, AFTRA, a co-founder of the female filmmakers forum on clubhouse, and as the co president of Northwestern university’s entertainment Alliance and U EA west.

[00:00:58] Disarray. That is a quick intro of who you are and what you’ve done, but why don’t you tell us a little bit more about yourself, fill in the gaps and a little bit more about what you do as a professional in the entertainment industry.

[00:01:11] Desiree Staples: Sure. Awesome. Well, thank you Dane, for that very welcoming and thorough intro. I 

[00:01:17] Dane Reis: Indeed. 

[00:01:20] Desiree Staples: but yeah, they give a little bit more context of my story or my, my career journey. I went to school for theater and musical theater at Northwestern university, as you heard. And I have no doubt you’ve interviewed other Northwestern folks stain because we’re just.

[00:01:35] Everywhere and all, all, all capacities of the industry.

[00:01:39] but I was pretty set on musical theater. I was set on Broadway, Broadway. And so right after school, after I graduated, I ended up, I was in New York for a summer. Then I booked some shows in Chicago. So I pretty steadily did musical theater and theater in Chicago, which I was very lucky because I think often, you know, you.

[00:01:56] Get on one track and you get on a musical theater track or like a straight play track. And it’s hard to diverge from that. Um, but then I also started discovering on camera and comedy and improv, and I started to really fall in love with that too. So long story short, I was doing a bunch of classes at vagabond studios in Chicago, which I give a shout out they’re amazing.

[00:02:17] And the acting studio of Chicago, of amazing places to hone your craft. And I realized. I was involved in the theater too, going back for a second with Northwestern, something called the WAMU show, which is very popular. A lot of our favorite alums from there were involved. Steven called bear , uh, Julia Louis Dreyfus.

[00:02:37] I believe everyone was involved because it was this collaborative show, a musical every year that a hundred students get together and write and perform and all in the orange. Australia has all students like have huge student new school kind of thing. So I would say grown up high school musical kind of thing.

[00:02:55] Um, Um, and I plus, and I was one of the co-chairs for that, which is there’s two or three a year that kind of run the whole thing and also performing that. So I was already someone that liked to do behind the scenes things as well. And I realized we’re filmmaking. There’s even, there’s so many more opportunities to do that from producing to writing.

[00:03:14] Um, so yeah, so I moved back to LA I’m from orange county originally. So I moved back to LA about four years ago and kind of jumped in the, making your own content world. I think people were kind of just beginning that YouTube was still popular, but , uh, funnily enough, I ended up. Uh, in the tourist trap area, I lived on sunset and vine, which will hilariously not only the heart of LA, but we’re all the vine stars at the time we’re living.

[00:03:39] Um, oh yeah. Oh yeah. Which was hysterical because now of course, gen Z doesn’t even know Yvonne. Yeah. Um, they only know talk, but you know, but you know, vine, I think was the, the pre Tik TOK and I was a fish out of water. Had just moved from the RA. Grungy, you know, uh, you worked so hard in Chicago to do the craft, right?

[00:03:58] And then to LA, where I saw all these vine stars at the pool, making lots of money flying around drones, you know, modeling on the little floaties and helicopter pilots. And I was like, you know what? There’s a show here. Um, of being kind of the most equipped in the room in a world where everyone’s much more interested in.

[00:04:18] The influencer, Instagram, Tik, TOK world , uh, and lifestyle. So that inspired me to create my first show. That was called the influencers with my co-creator Allie Kornfeld. Who’s a genius. Um, she’s a sketch writer and comedian. Uh, and has worked in film for quite a while. And so we partnered cause I was just venturing more into writing and we made that show that is about a gal, my character Mia, who thinks she has an interview at ICM, but it’s , um, internet, celebrity, moguls, and.

[00:04:48] All YouTube stars. It’s, you know, Chewbacca mom, it’s cats. It’s people that put their face into bread and make money from it because we think that’s a circle. So we made that short form pilot, which is about nine minutes. Actually you can check it out. Um, the influencers you’ve got the influencers, desert staples, Allie Kornfeld.

[00:05:04] It should come up. And we actually just a couple of weeks ago  , uh, had our last. Film festival screening circuit for it. Um, when that came out originally in 2019. So that’s been on the circuit now for two years, which is a little longer than usual, but obviously COVID kind of stretched that out a bit and That began me making my own stuff. And then from there I worked on a feature film called take me to Tarzana that was released this year. That was my first feature film. And I worked on another series called it’s what she would have wanted that we filmed beginning of 2019 and my childhood home with a lot of Northwestern folks, another short used with another Northwestern alum, Brett Lauer Tribeca next week.

[00:05:47] Um, that was actually chosen for the 20, 20 Tribeca. But. Very graciously. They’re premiering a lot of the 20, 20 shorts and episodics and the 2021 festival, which is very cool. Shout out to Tribeca. That’s amazing. And that’s where we are and yeah. And the next one, cause I just, I can’t can’t stop. Won’t stop is my divorce party, which is a female-driven feature film that we’ll be shooting in 

[00:06:11] Joshua tree.

[00:06:11] This October. 

[00:06:12] Dane Reis: right on. Very cool. Very busy and just picked it up and has been having some great successes. So quickly, which is fantastic. Love it. 

[00:06:22] Desiree Staples: Thank you. 

[00:06:23] Dane Reis: Yeah. And let’s dig into this first section here in Deseret. Look, I am a sucker for a good quote. What is your favorite quote? You’d like to share with everyone

[00:06:34] Desiree Staples: I want to make sure I get it right, but I think I’m very close. It’s. A rising tide lifts, all ships of rising tide lifts, all boats. I think it’s a rising tide, all boats. That’s my favorite quote. Um, it’s funny. I was having this conversation about a conversation about this quote a couple of weeks ago. Oh, no matter if it’s

[00:06:51] ships or boats, goal is. 

[00:06:54] Dane Reis: floating in the water.

[00:06:55] Desiree Staples: Anything floating in the water. The goal is the same. And I do firmly believe that when people you’re working with do well, that they will help you do well. And I do think in this industry specifically , right,because. It’s not like being a doctor. It’s not like being a lawyer. It’s not like these professions where you have a setup track that like, if you work really hard, you will succeed.

[00:07:19] I think this is one of the few industries that is not the case. You can work really hard and have an amazing five years. And, and then you do a movie that people don’t love. And then you go back to, you know, it’s lots of peaks and valleys. So, uh, but at the end of the day, if you’ve got this community of.

[00:07:34] Artists that are trying to help people and help each other make cool, innovative, groundbreaking work. Then I don’t think you can fail. Sure. Like you may not be doing major motion pictures , um, or on all the TV shows that you want to be on, but you’ll be making the work that you’re excited about because at the end of the day, I think all of us do it to make good work.

[00:07:55] Not necessarily 

[00:07:56] to make that bank. 

[00:07:58] Dane Reis: Yes, for sure. And I’m so glad that you said that because on this podcast specifically, I talk in, it comes up, I should say so often that it’s all about relationships. It’s all about community and that’s how you create sustainable success in. This industry or is a very major part of it is your relationships in the industry.

[00:08:20] Desiree Staples: Yeah. A hundred percent. No , it’s, it’s, it’s truly everything because so often. You know, I have an actor, a friend who now is a director and they’re looking for a producer and you just never know where things are going to lead. And I do think that although wearing many hats can be overwhelming sometimes, and you do have to really structure like, okay, Like for me, for example, I love to produce, but I am an actor first.

[00:08:43] I just have to keep that in mind because I think good producers are hard to find. And once people discover that you’re a good producer, everyone wants 

[00:08:53] you to produce their stuff. So, 

[00:08:54] Dane Reis: right. 

[00:08:54] Desiree Staples: which is great, which is great, but it is to like, make sure that you’re following the artistic goals that you’re looking forward to and that you want to do.

[00:09:03] Um,  it’s just so true that , um, you just never know what’s going to happen. And I’ve always been a believer that you have, whether I’m acting or producing or writing. If it’s a cool project work begets work, and you’re always gonna have people that you want to work with.

[00:09:15] And that’s 

[00:09:15] all, that’s all that matters. 

[00:09:17] Dane Reis: Yes, work begets work. That’s so true. And let’s get into this next section here. And Deseret, of course, you’re an entertainment professional. I’m an entertainment professional. And I think that you’d agree that this industry can be. One of the most subjective, brutally, honest and personally emotional industries in existence.

[00:09:39] And you know, you know, as well as I, that in order to create and have a successful career in this industry, like you’re having now takes a lot. Of dedication and hard work. And while yeah, there is an outrageous amount of excitement and fun doing what we do. There are also our fair share of obstacles, our peaks and valleys, like you said, and our challenges.

[00:10:01] So tell us, what is one key challenge, obstacle or failure you’ve experienced in your career and how did you come out the other side better because of it.

[00:10:12] Desiree Staples: Wow. That’s that’s a really good question. I really liked that question. Um, I think. I think it goes back to, I mean, I mean, I’ll just talk about, I think this year has been very tough, obviously we’re in the midst of a, a global pandemic. Uh, well, we’re coming out, we’re coming out the other side with like, um, but I do think in terms of being an actor, right?

[00:10:32] You’re like, Oh, how much of my booking, how much? And you know, I have not been on set and over a year, so I went to that and inspired my divorce party of okay. Well, things aren’t coming my way. And I see this a lot too, that, you know, you can’t wait for the phone to ring um, you know, I think so many people get distracted go well, I’m, I’m not, I’m not booking or I’m not auditioning.

[00:10:50] Then I’m just gonna put my energy somewhere else where, and I think you have to create. Your own work and create your opportunities because there’s so much out there now. And I think that’s important to have , like, you have to make things that are good. There’s a great , um, panel I was on with the Duplass brothers and, you know, everyone was talking about film festivals and everyone was talking about , well, how do I get my shore into a film festival?

[00:11:12] How do I get my. Next feature into Sundance slam dance. And of course people are talking connections and people are talking, you know, trying to get in with that festival and work there for a few years or meet program. And I love that they do plus said , um, you have to make an exquisite film just to make an adjustment, make a film.

[00:11:31] That’s so good that they are going to accept it at the end of the day. Sure. Yeah. It’s kind of like college, right? It’s like, uh, at the end of the day, you can have the. What is it the extracurriculars, or you can have the connect to the school, but if you don’t have the grades and, and what they’re looking for, you’re not going to get in.

[00:11:47] And I just loved that. It without all the bells and whistles, it’s just about creating something exquisite and original and authentic. And it’s really hard. You know, it’s not, it’s very much easier said than done, but I think a lot of people in the industry, there’s an instant gratification thing going on, maybe in everything, maybe in 2021, maybe in social media, there’s an instant gratification thing going on, but.

[00:12:12] You just got to put in the work. So I think my frustrations with not auditioning as much or not being on set as much and being doing what I wanted to do, I went , well, what can I do? And that inspired. Uh, Heidi white, sir, who is the writer of my divorce party. I was in a writers actors group with her that I still am.

[00:12:32] Shout out to deadline junkies. That’s in LA, check them out if you’re in LA or even not. Cause they’re doing virtual , uh, script readings right now. And that was such a great experience because every week it’s three writers putting up 20 pages and. It’s fantastic because you get to see new work every week.

[00:12:49] And as an actor, it makes me better because I’m cold reading the scripts anyway. So all the script loved it and just was inspired to make it. And here we are a year later making it in 

[00:12:59] a few months.

[00:13:00] Dane Reis: Oh, so cool. Love that. Yeah. This, this industry is crazy and I’m really onboard with, you know, creating your own work. I mean, look, I’ve got this podcast, right? Uh, it’s a big thing. To help us stay inspired to keep our skills honed and opportunities arise from just doing anything. But also when you do that, when you keep putting the energies out and you keep putting out good work and you keep doing your craft, other things inevitably find you and you can continue to do it all.

[00:13:30] Desiree Staples: And I, yeah, I feel very lucky because it. Not be this way, you know, 10 years ago you were, I think a lot of people you were put in one profession, you know, you had to be a writer or you had to be a producer or you had to be a director. And now we’re seeing more and more. I think the best shows, I think I made a straw.

[00:13:49] You, I think Fleabag now, you know, Reese Witherspoon with big little lies. She’s finding her own IP. She’s finding her own opportunities. It’s just very inspiring and very cool where actors are starting to claim their power. And I, I’m definitely a much better actor, I think, as a producer now, because I know the ins and outs of what makes a good set.

[00:14:12] And I think it’s so important that I think most people in theater understand this because even the actors, everyone goes through tech week and hell week and all that jazz. But. It’s a little different with film where from the water bottle to the plant and the background to the cot, like all these things were from to the trailers.

[00:14:34] Every single thing someone had to take the time, the producers, the PAs, someone on that crew made happen. And once you produce your own content and I always took us that. Actors do, because then they understand how difficult and what a miracle any film is. And that’s why now too, whenever I see anything, even if it’s a film I don’t jive with, I really think every film is a miracle because of just all.

[00:15:01] the planning and stars aligning, and same with theater, you know, but human , uh, obstacles that come our way , um, yeah.

[00:15:08] So just, just thankful that I do feel like a very well-rounded performer now that I know the 

[00:15:13] behind the scenes and the front of the scenes. 

[00:15:15] Dane Reis: yeah, for sure. All that behind the scenes stuff is no joke. I also have done quite a bit of corporate production work. So, uh, you know, for conventions and conferences, for instance, Amazon’s, AWS has got over 50,000 to 10 DS, you know, and yeah. The logistics of setting something up like that is mind-boggling when you finally see it all out on paper and you see all the little elements that have to go in to make the thing a success.

[00:15:40] It’s crazy.

[00:15:42] Desiree Staples: Yeah. That’s it’s

[00:15:44] nobody knows 

[00:15:46] Dane Reis: nobody knows 

[00:15:46] exactly right until you see it the first time you’re like, oh, I get it. I get it now. Beautiful. Well, let’s move on to a time that I like to call your. Spotlight moment. That one moment in time that you realized, yes, I am going to be an entertainer for a living or maybe it was, yes. This is what I need to be doing in the entertainment industry.

[00:16:11] Tell us about that.

[00:16:12] Desiree Staples: wonderful question, Dane. I do think it goes back. I touched on it a little bit, but it is a combo of like, I think all of us have that high school moment. Have I got to do late Ms. That I, you know, you know, it’s one of my favorite musicals of all time. And I knew in high school doing Fontane and lame is that I definitely wanted to perform.

[00:16:33] And then in college, which was really cool. I did a original work called soup for beast S O U P soup for beast. Very abstract, very dark, very quirky. It was this very cool place. Shout out to Evan Toohey, who is a TV writer in LA, I’ll say Northwestern alum, of course. And it was a very cool time traveling play, but all took place in one cabin where it was this younger couple, an older couple in the same cabin.

[00:17:01] And you didn’t realize that.

[00:17:03] it was the same couple, like. In different times of their lives. Um, so that was really cool. And it was a huge comedy and very metaphorical, like this whole beast, it was, it was really smart and ingenious and, and layered. And I played a witch in it, which made sense. Cause there’s magic, right.

[00:17:19] This undead, which who comes out of a refrigerator and. It was crazy. I mean, I had never done something so comic and over the top before and strange, and you know, these, these female just powerhouse kind of, what is it? 11 o’clock number kind of roles. And it was a play. So I suddenly went from being the singer singer singer until like, oh, desert is like a very.

[00:17:41] Uh, complex and can be funny actress. And then that opened the whole door of improv, because I think you do have to have a moment of , uh, as a comedian, what your voice is and what your humor is. And that was huge for me to allow myself to be more than a singer and more than a musician. Um, yeah, And then from there doing that I’m new show again, where I got to then take like, okay, so.

[00:18:02] With WAMU, we did some adaptations , uh, cause it’s, you know, student written show in public domain was our best friend. So we did a hybrid of the wizard of Oz, Alice in Wonderland and Peter pan. And it was about it’s called flying home. Won’t go into the whole story of it, but a combined those three stories.

[00:18:18] And it made the most sense that as with my very dry sense of humor, I played the wicked witch of the west and I wrote a song called cursed where she was cursed of that everyone, you know, cared more about her sister and yeah, this was pretty wicked. Um, so. Yeah, a different, a different, a totally different take on it that she was just like this very dry, you know, Mae west kind of, which kind of thing never got what she wanted.

[00:18:43] And that all totally like inspired where I am today and going, okay, how can I turn this on its head? Even with my divorce party now I’m very, very interested in work. That’s like, okay. Divorce is something that a lot of people struggle with. It’s something that’s not a talked about a lot, something that people are shameful of.

[00:19:03] How can we turn this on its head and make something fun out of it? So my divorce party is bridesmaids meets the hangover, but five women, you know, and that is very exciting to me. And taking topics that we kind of put under the rug or don’t know what to do with and make them fun, or at least maybe not.

[00:19:22] Funny, but , well, yeah, I mean there’s humor and everything, right? So it’s just about trying to find a way for these stories to be about self-growth and realization and progress and connection because, you know, we all, we all need to laugh and we all need, that’s why we love stories, right? It’s just, it touches us as humans of

[00:19:42] something that we’re needing and looking for. 

[00:19:44] Dane Reis: yeah, for sure. I love it. When films or content or anything take really awkward or challenging or controversial topics and they make it more accessible through humor. Uh, I think Sasha Baron Cohen is probably one of the best at doing that. Um,

[00:19:59] but 

[00:20:00] it’s. it’s. amazing because it’s, it’s all the stuff that everyone everyone’s got it in their brain, everyone has experienced something like that at some level usually, and it is relatable, but we, we need that kind of bridge to get us there.

[00:20:14] Desiree Staples: Yup. Yeah. Yeah, And an interesting perspective on it And kind of changing what we’ve seen before and changing the norm. And I love that.

[00:20:24] Dane Reis: Yeah, for sure. And let’s take a moment to talk about the present. You’ve alluded a little bit, but what projects are you working on now? What are you looking forward to? And you know, you know, we’re coming out of this global pandemic. How do you see the entertainment industry moving forward in the next couple of years?

[00:20:42] Desiree Staples: Woo. That is the million dollar question. Uh, we, 

[00:20:45] we will see , um, but I’ll start with that part and then I’ll circle back to what I’m working on right now. But I think. We learned how important content was more now than ever. I think this year, especially I can tell you so many shows. Like, I couldn’t remember parts of the pandemic based on what’s what I watched.

[00:21:03] I was like, okay. I watched the great on Hulu, like in last April and then devs and then, you know, and. I think that’s really important because when we’re in something strange, like this time has become so strange, right. It feels like it was yesterday when this all started, but here we are, which is cuckoo bananas.

[00:21:22] Um, so I just think that shows how important content is. And that was something always where it was like, what are you watching? Like, it was at least a place that me and my friends could connect. Even if you know, everything else felt like a dumpster fire around us, where we could talk about what we’re watching and connect with those characters.

[00:21:37] So I think, I mean, I think we’re back in a big way. Obviously film has been moving a bit quicker than theater. I know things are back to production , um, with protocols and, you know, as the vaccine continues. To be used and numbers, you know, go in a positive way. Uh, we’re going to keep producing and at a very rapid rate because we’ve been backlogged for so long.

[00:21:59] So I think the next year or two are going to be pretty amazing in terms of jobs and opportunities and contents, because. I think everyone is very inspired to do anything that has nothing to do with the pandemic, which is great. And theater, you know, I’ve, I have a couple of friends on Broadway right now, and I just hurt for them so much this past year, because you just can’t, you know, you can’t work around that.

[00:22:22] It’s alive theater event with hundreds or thousands of people that is the whole. Goal. Um, but it looks like October is coming back strong for Broadway. And I do think it’s been an interesting time to, of experimenting with online work. Like I have to give a shout out to this , uh, production company. His name is.

[00:22:44] The co-founder is Neil Davidson. They did a show called tape and it was a zoom performance, but used zoom in a way that was very interactive and very innovative and very new. So I think we’re going to see that too. So I think we’re going to be back and bigger than ever. And I think we’re always going to do zoom meetings and I think we’re always going to do interviews like this because it’s too easy.

[00:23:05] Um,

[00:23:05] but yeah. yeah.

[00:23:07] And in terms of what I’m working on , um, Uh, what’s coming up is , uh, short I, it’s a proof of concept episodic called circus person directed, written, starring Britt, Lauer that is premiering at Tribeca next weekend that I’m very excited about and that’ll be live. And we’re S we’re so pumped that Tribeca is coming back in a major way.

[00:23:25] It’s the 20th anniversary, and they’re doing all of their screenings, outdoor, which is. Incredible and props to them. They’ve been such heroes in this, and I also have another episodic series. That’ll quickly do the elevator pitch for called it’s what she would’ve wanted. I also act in that it’s also a female-driven about these gals who make a pact in middle school, that if anything happened to any of them, they would break into their childhood home and make sure to steal anything incriminating.

[00:23:54] So their parents wouldn’t find out. Let’s say, you know, embarrassing letters or journals or drugs, or who knows what, or delete X, you know, you know, to take away anything embarrassing before anyone else would. And then our girls grow up to be about my age , um, mid to late, mid to late twenties. And one of the girls does get in , well, you don’t know how she passes away and I’m not gonna split all that.

[00:24:15] But one of the girls dies unexpectedly and these girls decide they’re going to fulfill the pact. They break. She was living back at her childhood home, like so many people have been in 2021. Uh, they break into it and they find out a lot more than they bargained for which sets them on this journey and the mission.

[00:24:34] And mystery of what happened to their friends and how with social media, she appeared to be very, very happy and, you know, thriving and living her best life. As we like to say that there was a lot brewing underneath and what’s cool with the mystery that works out with this series. Is it using social media as breadcrumbs, like DMS and dating apps and who she’s Snapchatting in order to figure out what happened to her in her last couple of weeks.

[00:25:02] So that actually is a part of the Tribeca creators market, which I will also get a huge shameless plug too, to check them out. If you have an episodic series, they’re really passionate about finding. Groundbreaking new young talent. Um, I mean, young in the terms of green, you know, entering the industry, not necessarily. Yeah ,

[00:25:21] Uh, and yeah, and I cannot recommend them more for, for creators and people that are creating episodic content. So check out the Tribeca now showcase and that creators market. So we’re in that creators market. So actually this week, we’re going to be pitching the show through the creators market and fingers crossed, finding next 

[00:25:38] steps and making it happen. 

[00:25:40] Dane Reis: very cool. That sounds incredibly interesting. I would love to watch that.

[00:25:45] Desiree Staples: Oh, I’ll see. I’ll send it your way. We got it. So we have a proof of concept for that.

[00:25:47] too. And yeah, I’ll just quickly talk about that a little bit. I think that’s so beneficial. If you have a series that you want to do, you know, I think so many people talk about , well, this is what I would do. This is what I would do.

[00:25:58] Here’s the, and Right. The pilot and the new agonize over that, just make the darn thing, you know, just like, even if it’s 12 minutes get three days, that’s what you would have wanted with us to three days. At my house, you know, people, we love a lot of people from school and just made this, you know, jumping off point for the series that now it could be a feature.

[00:26:17] It could be a, you know, limited series. It could be a standalone piece, you know? Like you just, you don’t know again what the opportunities are, you just have to, 

[00:26:25] and they will come. 

[00:26:27] Dane Reis: Such great advice right there as well. Just create, make it, do it. 

[00:26:31] Desiree Staples: Yup. 

[00:26:32] Dane Reis: Perfect. It is time to move on to one of my favorite sections in the interview. I call it the grease lightening round. I am going to ask you a handful of questions. I want you to answer them as quickly and concisely as possible one after another.

[00:26:48] Are you ready? 

[00:26:49] Desiree Staples: Woo. All right. Let’s 

[00:26:51] see.

[00:26:52] Dane Reis: All right. First question. What was the one thing holding you back from committing to a career as an entertainer?

[00:26:58] Desiree Staples: Oh, wow. Um, fear and 

[00:27:00] security.

[00:27:01] Dane Reis: Second question. What is the best piece of advice you have ever received?

[00:27:05] Desiree Staples: Um, always make your bed first thing in the morning. 

[00:27:11] Dane Reis: Start the day off, right. right. 

[00:27:12] Desiree Staples: Yeah. 

[00:27:13] Dane Reis: Perfect. Third question. What is something that is working for you right now? Or if you’d like to go pre COVID, what was working for you before our industry went on? Pause

[00:27:24] Desiree Staples: I think being very open to collaborating and any person I wanted to work with, even if it was writing or producing or acting that has really been awesome. Just collaborate with people that you love and you want to work with. 

[00:27:39] Dane Reis: great. And the fourth question, what is it your best resource? Whether that is a book, a movie, a YouTube video, maybe a podcast or piece of technology you found is helping your career right now. 

[00:27:51] Desiree Staples: Hmm, good one. I love another podcast. Audrey helps actors. That’s amazing. I wonder if other people have mentioned that too. Uh, getting a very honest Dew on the industry is so important. And once again, someone that’s seen many sides and facets of it. So 

[00:28:07] check out Audrey helps actors. 

[00:28:09] Dane Reis: Brilliant. And the fifth question, if you had to start your career from scratch, but you still had all the knowledge and experience you’ve collected from your career in this industry, what would you do or not do? Would you do anything differently or would you keep it the same?

[00:28:24] Desiree Staples: Hmm, I think I would. would be a little bit more , um, what’s the word? Uh, I would cherry pick my projects a little bit more. I think I had a time where I think all actors have this right where you’re like, I want to do everything. And every project and I was splitting myself pretty thin of like auditioning for things in Chicago and auditions for things in LA.

[00:28:42] Like I just wanted all of it. And I think narrowing your focus 

[00:28:46] is really helpful. 

[00:28:48] Dane Reis: yes. Agreed. I mean, but like you said, you said, I think we all experienced that. I think there is a point where you have to kind of, you kind of have to hit that edge. You have to go, oh, this is too much. And then pull it back because you don’t know how far too far is until you actually get there.

[00:29:03] Desiree Staples: I mean, I mean, that’s been interesting to you don’t I guess you don’t have to decide whether you want to do theater I’m based in LA or film in LA , but, but you kind of kind of do like, I, that was really interesting for me of. Uh, trying to audition for plays while doing film while I’m like my own content. What is it?

[00:29:17] Like? You can only do three things while at a time. Right? So it’s like, uh, I think for me finding my passion of filmmaking and make me on content, I was like, okay. And you know,  you know, what, if I want to come back to live theater, I totally can and will. And , but, but being honest with yourself of what your

[00:29:32] bandwidth allows is huge. 

[00:29:34] Dane Reis: for sure. And the last question, what is the golden nugget knowledge drop you’ve learned from your successful career in the industry? You’d like to leave with our listeners.

[00:29:45] Desiree Staples: You know if it’s a golden nugget, but I do think it’s just really important to do the work and be good. And. Just like be the best version of yourself as much as you can because film again, film and theater are such labors of love. You’re working for 12 hours. Like if you can be someone on my set that shows up tries to help.

[00:30:12] Sits, you know, and doesn’t try to rock the boat. Like I will hire them every time because they get it. I think a lot of people, especially newer and it’s not, it’s not malicious. I’ll tell you what, like so many people just want to make it about them. And I just heard this great story. I’m supposed to be quick, but I have this great story about.

[00:30:28] I have a friend on set right now who , uh, or she just finished a feature and it was her first big feature where she was the lead. And she was talking about how she was, you know, first on the call sheet and wanted to set an example for the rest of her cast, which I have to do. I’m going to be doing later this year.

[00:30:41] And she was so tired just because she was the lead and sh and it was very like focused on her character and. Uh, there were day players that came in and really wanted her to like, you know, wanted to talk to the main actress. And she was just so tired. All she wanted was to like close her eyes and be in the corner.

[00:30:58] And I had nothing to do with, you know, not loving that day player or not. It just so putting yourself also in the shoes of some of these crazy. You know, celebrity and major actors that try to help them have a better day than you needing validation of 

[00:31:16] being on set that day. 

[00:31:17] Dane Reis: right. So good. That is golden advice. I’d say that’s golden advice right there. Amazing. 

[00:31:23] Desiree Staples: We got there. I didn’t start with a golden nugget and that was like a three-pronged answer. But I, that was a one I didn’t think of until recently because you don’t, you don’t think of it that way. It’s just like, oh, if I only, if I was working 13 hours a day on a major movie, would I be, you know, then I would be happy, then my career would be set and it’s like, your career will be set, but you.

[00:31:39] Have to then change how you take care of yourself and your self care. And sometimes that does look like you can’t be hosting the whole time. You can’t be worried about, oh, I hope you can be a good bite. I’m not saying being mean to people. That’s not what I’m saying at all the opposite of that, but just try to understand as in life what they’re going through and your experience may be very different than theirs.

[00:32:00] If you’re on set for three days and they’ve been 

[00:32:02] on set for four months. 

[00:32:04] Dane Reis: Exactly right, exactly. Right. There you go. Right. And to wrap up this interview, Deseret, it is time to give yourself a plug. Where can we find you? How do our listeners connect with you? Is there anything you want to promote? 

[00:32:18] Desiree Staples: Yes , please, please, please , um, check out so many things and we didn’t touch base on this, but this is great. Place to put it in for my divorce party. We are currently securing financing through a platform called Wi-Fi under that I highly recommend as well. If you have questions about that, I’m on Instagram at Deseret staples, that’s desire with an extra east staples like the store at Disraeli staples.

[00:32:40] Follow me there messaged me there had a great experience , um, with investors and getting the stuff. Some off the ground, but we are still looking for investors. So check it out. It’s kind of like grown-up Kickstarter where you can throw in a hundred bucks or more, and also get a piece of the pie of the films.

[00:32:56] That’s pretty cool. And have a part in it. So check that out at we divorce party, the film. We also have my divorce party, the film, Instagram, and for it’s what she would have wanted. We haven’t, it’s what she would’ve wanted. Film Instagram and circus person has a circus person. 

[00:33:13] Dane Reis: Perfect.

[00:33:14] Desiree Staples: Yes. 

[00:33:16] Dane Reis: Yes. And I will be putting the links to everything that desert just said into the description of this episode. So you can easily just. Click and connect with all of the different projects and with Deseret herself, and also be sure to share this podcast with your fellow entertainers, coaches, teachers, arts, and entertainment educators, and anyone, you know, you know, aspiring to create a career in the entertainment industry.

[00:33:42] You booked. It is the number one resource of expertise on how to actually create a successful entertainment career case in point. Everything Deseret gave us today. All of those fantastic golden nuggets, everything about how to work in different parts of this industry, transitioning to different parts of your career and doing your own work.

[00:34:06] So if you like this episode, make sure you hit that subscribe button. So you don’t miss the next one that Deseret. Thank you so much for being here. I’m so glad we got connected.

[00:34:15] Desiree Staples: Yes. Thank you, Dane. Thank you so much for having me. Thank you, Chris gaunt, who I believe connected us. So thank you, Chris. Um, and thank you again, Dana. And thanks for providing this resource for. Performers and those in the entertainment industry, I think it’s really important for us to talk about not just the successes, but the obstacles and the struggles, because, you know, life is, life is long and full in many things.

[00:34:38] And I think that when we learn from each other, that’s the best way to improve ourselves. 

[00:34:44] Dane Reis: well said 

[00:34:46] Desiree Staples: Awesome. Thank you, 

[00:34:48] Dan.