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EP 207: Nancy Spooner (autogenerated)

[00:00:00] Dane Reis: You booked it. Episode 207. Okay. Let’s kick today’s episode off. I am excited to introduce my guest today. Nancy Spooner. Are you ready to do this Nancy? 

[00:00:17] Nancy Spooner: ready, sir. 

[00:00:18] Dane Reis: Brilliant ATV and film major from San Diego state. Nancy has worked behind the scenes in episodic television feature films, the X games, Olympic games, and a space ship launch.

[00:00:31] Her resume is stuffed full of a large-scale corporate sales meetings and conferences. In 2008, she realized she was a connector and started her company tempo. Events and is now one of the country’s leading event, production resources for freelance production specialists. When not in front of her computer screens or working on shows on the road, she can be found riding her bike around her beach town with her husband and son or surfing some of the country’s best breaks.

[00:01:00] The street, Nancy, that is a very quick intro of who you are and what you’ve done, but why don’t you tell us a little bit more about yourself, filling the gaps and a little bit more about what you do as a professional in the industry.

[00:01:15] Nancy Spooner: Okay, will do. Um, yeah, that’s a broad overview of where I came from television and film routes that morphed into live event production, which to me is the same thing. It’s organization. It’s having a good head on your shoulders and , uh, wrangling cats. And , uh, turned into my main bread and butter would be producing , um, large conferences and, and , uh,conventions and such.

[00:01:38] And then also, like you’ve mentioned in 2008, started my company, tempo live events, where I realized that , um, I have a lot of friends like it worked for, and if I can make a penny for everybody, I got a job where I can probably make some cash. So yeah, my little side hustles became. My big hustle right now, and I’m still dabbling in live events.

[00:01:56] I let myself do one or two a month, and that means I’m either show calling. So directing the live show or I deck manage. When we used to have decks, I would be on the stage deck managing. And now I do the same thing as a deck manager, but behind my computer screen, which is kind of fun. kind And then producing shows, which as you know, is just getting you know, all the cats lined up and making sure the 

[00:02:17] clients. 

[00:02:18] Dane Reis: Yeah, very cool. It’s this side of the industry for everyone that’s listening is something. This is why I’m so excited to hear first off to have Nancy on, because this is a side of the industry that so many. People just don’t even realize exists. But when you start thinking about it, you go, of course it has to exist.

[00:02:37] We all know that conferences happen. We all know that conventions happen and someone has to make those things a thing. Someone has to turn an empty ballroom into some where people want to hang out and be entertained. And this is what Nancy’s talking about. So good because it’s such a fantastic part of the industry that , uh, I’m excited to dig into and talk about , uh, you said that now with debt calling, you do it a lot behind your computer.

[00:03:05] I’m assuming this is because of COVID and the virtualization of the, the conference and meeting world.

[00:03:11] Nancy Spooner: exactly. We know we were shut down for, gosh, it’s been what 18 months now meetings are coming back. Shows are coming back, you know, concerts are coming back, but there’s still a lot of people that aren’t traveling. A lot of CEOs that have to get their messages out and they know they can’t get right. A few thousand people in a ballroom, I’ve done a handful of pharmaceutical , uh, drug launches or speaker meetings lately.

[00:03:32] And , uh, they still need to meet right. They need to get their message out there. So they just do it from their home office. And so do I, so I’m with the presenter quote, unquote backstage, making sure they look and sound good. So I’m dealing with their background, with their lighting, with their audio. It’s interesting.

[00:03:47] Cause when they used to come to the ballroom lighting was set, audio was sets. The stage was set. And I would greet them and show them, you know, where their presentation could be seen down below and where to look at their audience and where to stand in the light. And now they come into a virtual room and I am their lighting designer and I am making sure they sound good and I am making sure the set behind them looks good.

[00:04:09] It’s. It’s a whole new world.

[00:04:11] but it’s fun. And I love it and I couldn’t do it with the, you know, the production team. That’s actually in the studio, but still I’m the one face that they see and they talk to, and I’m the one that’s supposed to make them sound and look their best and keep them calm and informed.

[00:04:24] And it’s fun. It’s still, when we first got shut down, I thought, oh my gosh, what am I going to do? I’m a people person. What am I going to do? Why my job is done. And then a couple months went by and we found the pivot and we found people we’re still going to meet. And I slid right back into my 

[00:04:38] role. 

[00:04:40] Dane Reis: Yeah. So cool. And way to take advantage of such a crazy world and situation at the time. 

[00:04:45] Nancy Spooner: I know it’s so 

[00:04:46] crazy. 

[00:04:47] Dane Reis: Well, Well, let’s dig into this first section here and Nancy, look, I am a sucker for a good quote. What is your favorite quote? You’d like to share with us?

[00:04:58] Nancy Spooner: You know what? My favorite quote lately is? No one’s getting out of here. It’s the same thing as you only live once, but I just love that. Like, no one’s getting out of here. Life, people let’s do this. Right. Let’s do it fun. Let’s not be afraid to take that trip, to take that jump to, you know, take that risk as long as you can make it out of life from that one moment.

[00:05:18] But 

[00:05:20] for the most part, I

[00:05:20] just love that. 

[00:05:22] Dane Reis: Yeah. I really liked that as well, because it also puts more urgency into it, I think, than just, you know, you only live once. You know, I feel like that’s a bit lighter, but I liked the urgency, that of 

[00:05:31] doors. 

[00:05:32] Nancy Spooner: Someone sent it to me a couple months ago and I thought I’m taking that with me. And I used it a lot. I was just on vacation with my family and let’s go do this. Let’s go do that. I’m like, yeah, no, one’s going on your life. Let’s go hike, Mount 

[00:05:42] Rushmore. We got this. 

[00:05:44] Dane Reis: Yeah. Perfect. Love it. Well, let’s get into this next section here. And Nancy, of course you are an entertainment professional. I’m an entertainment professional. And I think that you’d agree that this industry can be one of the most subjective, brutally, honest and personally emotional industries in existence.

[00:06:02] And you know, you know, as well as I, that in order to create and have a successful career in this industry, like you’re having now, it takes a lot of dedication and hard work. And while yes, there is outrageous. Amounts of fun and excitement doing what we do. There are also our fair share of obstacles, challenges, and failures.

[00:06:21] We’re going to experience and we’re going to have to move forward through. So tell us, what is one key challenge, obstacle or failure you’ve experienced in your career and how did you come out the other side better because of it?

[00:06:35] Nancy Spooner: You know what I think it’s happening as we speak. I think it’s the pandemic, you know, COVID hit and I panics, like what just happened? We all lost our contracts. We had tons of shows was in the middle of first quarter. And that’s where the live event industry really makes their bread and butter. I think as our first quarters, it’s pretty significant and we got shut down right away in first quarter.

[00:06:55] And so, um, I accidentally. Uh, started at industry think tank that is thriving. And you’re a part of it?

[00:07:00] Now I’ve seen you in there too. It was , um, I just called on my girlfriends in my tempo team of contractors. I was like, all right, girlfriends, let’s meet up. Let’s do a happy hour on zoom. There’s this, this software called zoom.

[00:07:10] We could all do this video conference thing. And , uh, we met up. Brought a theme to the Tuesday meeting. Like who’s the favorite person you’ve ever had on your stage or what some great lessons we learned backstage, or, you know, you know, we’re front of house like, , like, and we would just share these moments. And then our moments started getting a little more intense every week as we saw the pandemic growing.

[00:07:29] And it didn’t seem like we’re getting out of this thing anytime soon. We started asking each other questions about , um, unemployment and our contracts enforcement Azure. And there was PPP loans that they had in the U S and how can we take advantage of these things? And I said, okay, hold on. Let me, let me get my accountant in here.

[00:07:45] Cause we’re all trying to answer these questions, but none of us are accounts. We don’t understand this loan process. So I brought in an accountant and then. More questions came in about contracts. And I said, let’s bring in an attorney. And I brought in an attorney in, and then next thing you know, one of the females on our group, she was producing the NFL draft.

[00:08:01] She was one of the producers on the NFL draft and that was the first live. Um, Um, remote show where they were taking cameras and going inside and iPhones are going inside all these players homes for the NFL draft. And I found it fascinating because they had to communicate with the broadcast studio. How are they doing that on Intercom?

[00:08:18] And so I brought her in and I just opened up the flood gates at that point. And I was like, come one, come all. Let’s listen to how they produce this virtual live event. And from there a girlfriend coined at the tempo think tank, and then I started bringing it. Producers from production companies. My husband was actually presenting on a stage virtually in may, April or may.

[00:08:38] It was early. And I was so nosy. I stuck my head in the quote-unquote green room, where my husband was and said, who’s producing this. I want to talk to you about this. And she was so gracious. She actually became a guest on the think tank and told us how she pulled up her like 3000. In-person at that into a 15,000 virtual event within a matter of weeks because she got shut down and it was so fun to listen to her, tell her story.

[00:09:00] So the think tank was born and I think. From there, the tempo team has grown significantly and we just have been sharing industry secrets with each other. So nothing’s a secret it’s best practices of how we’re producing events at home. And what technology do we need and how are you communicating what apps work best, blah, blah, blah.

[00:09:17] So. That’s my success story is we were down for the count and it was just being, I didn’t do it on purpose has always said it was an accident, but it, it was amazing. The friendships, the camaraderie, the trust, the teamwork that the temple think tank has shown our industry has been amazing. It’s it’s one of my greatest successes.

[00:09:35] I just love the people there. I love how open and honest they’ve been and how we took a bad situation where like, we can do this together. Let’s figure it out as a team. No 

[00:09:43] secrets here. 

[00:09:45] Dane Reis: Oh, I really love that end. I can attest. It’s a fantastic community that exists a lot on slack slash zoom. Uh, and it’s so good. And it really is. It’s all about, like you said, there’s no industry secrets. It’s all about best practices. How do we help each other get through this and , you know, use our talents in the best way possible and to be as successful as possible.

[00:10:05] Set everyone up for success.

[00:10:07] Nancy Spooner: Right Right because nobody’s walked this line before. No one’s been independent. They can try to produce shows from home. It was really neat to see the sharing that’s gone on. And now it’s starting to calm down a little bit because we’re starting to find our group and people are starting to get back on show site.

[00:10:21] Is my goal, like I’ve said since day one, someday, there may not be a think tank because you all will be working on show site and it will be too busy to meet up. You know, I hope we still will need up just to share stories and friendships and maybe toast every now and then, but I love it. It’s just, it’s a great community.

[00:10:34] And they’ve been so supportive of each other because no, one’s done this before, so let’s just share 

[00:10:38] and learn. 

[00:10:39] Dane Reis: yeah, for sure. And what I think is also really good is a lot of us think, oh, all of the producers, all this needs to happen. All these virtual events at the same time, all of these huge, you know, fortune 500 companies, they need. Resources like this to exist because they are also going the first time they need people to, they come to you.

[00:11:01] We need to do a meeting. We don’t know how to do it. That’s why we pay you guys is to make things happen magically. It’s the whole industry from the companies all the way down to the, the, the last person, you know, just wrangling, whatever talent everyone is so needed in, in this information loop.

[00:11:18] Nancy Spooner: that’s so true. I was, I teach at university of San Diego one night, a semester in a event. They call it , um, it’s some sort of event certificate platform and there’s a wedding and a wedding coordinator. There, there is a festivals producer. There there’s a, a sport producer there they’re like, but just run the gamut, just a general event coordinators.

[00:11:39] And I’m the event producer side. This course. And when I meet my students the first night, I always ask them , like, what’s the difference in your opinion, between event planner and event coordinator and , uh, or I’m sorry, an event planner and event producer. And I kind of explained to them what I do, and I feel like so many people think in their mind, there’s weddings and events and that’s it.

[00:12:01] And it’s all about tables and chairs and decor, and they don’t realize no, there’s this big production side that happens behind the scenes. And there’s a lot of work that needs to be done and a lot of work available for people in event production. And now these big companies not, I mean, they’re used to having an event production, but now you’re right.

[00:12:16] They just need to have a meeting. They need to get their team together and they’re spread out all over the country now. And they don’t have the technology and they don’t understand the technology even for a simple, like a zoom meeting is not always going to cut it. They don’t want to step it up a little bit.

[00:12:28] And show more slides or videos or have some more production value to it in that is what I think our industry is really taking charge right now, but we’re figuring it out. 

[00:12:37] Dane Reis: yeah, a hundred 

[00:12:37] Nancy Spooner: lot of people creating, creating, creating, event production companies. Now that can pull off these live. These are virtual 

[00:12:42] meetings. It’s cool.

[00:12:43] Dane Reis: Yeah. Very cool. Well, Well, let’s move on to a time that I like to call your spotlight moment. That one moment in time you realized, yes, I’m going to work in this industry for a living, or maybe it was, yes. This is what I need to be doing in the industry. Tell us about that.

[00:13:04] Nancy Spooner: I love that. I love that part of my life because I do tell my students this as well. It was , um, the Olympics salt lake Olympics in 2002. When I realized as a show caller was the producer and the show caller for the live venue, long track speed skating that if I didn’t tell the national Anthem singer went to start playing on time.

[00:13:26] Count that the whole worldwide feed would be off. I was like oh, , oh, oh, that’s my job. okay.

[00:13:33] I get it because I’d been working for X games for years and I would just let the video roll. And my video producer had a video or when my host had an interview he wanted to do, or, you know, a competition kind of ran itself you know, a and I just kinda let things happen.

[00:13:46] And it wasn’t till that moment that I was like, oh my God, that’s my job. And then I got a little nervous, but I love that nervousness. Like I took the ball and ran. I got it. Like, this is my schedule. This is my show flow. Everyone’s following me. I can’t screw this up. I, I live for that where my associate producer, who is also my best friend at the time, it still is my best friend was my associate producer at the time when she realized what my job was, she said after the Olympics, oh,

[00:14:08] my God.

[00:14:09] I was scared to death every day that you w you’d be sick and I’d have to take over. She just wanted nothing to do with calling the live show, but that was quite eye opening. My life has changed my career. And from there I really got brave and that’s when I. Writing proposals and finding my own work. And I’ve done a handful of sporting events since then.

[00:14:25] And then from the Olympics and morphed into corporate events due to one of my colleagues that was in corporate. 

[00:14:31] I’m not complaining.

[00:14:32] Dane Reis: Oh, that’s so cool. That is, I mean, it’s such a seemingly simple moment, but huge, huge ramifications of what you’re actually doing. That is so crazy. Um, I remember the first time I ever realized that this world actually has a lot of detail , uh, was when. I was, so I was like, you sure you don’t know this about me?

[00:14:53] I , uh, was a mascot for the university of Montana actually ended up winning the capital one national mascot of the year award back in the day. Uh, Uh, but I remember the first time I was going to go do a football game and one of the producers of the show, the show, the game handed me, you know, the show flow and the brunch you of like, this is, like, it was the diluted run sheet, right.

[00:15:15] Of like what’s happening. Yeah. I looked at it. I’m like, oh my gosh, like every second is accounted for and I need to be here. And it just completely rocked. My world was like, oh, whoa, this is a thing I’m not just going and running around. And, you know, being a bear and dancing, like I’m doing that, but it all has to be very specifically placed.

[00:15:34] It blew my mind. Doesn’t that was my first experience.

[00:15:38] Nancy Spooner: You know what I used to do very similar to creating that experience, but for my parents and for my sisters and my nieces and nephews, when they come to the next stage, I give them a show flow and they’d call me out on it. You know, if we miss something, but I give them, I love giving my friends come to events, the sporting events like that, because I sent.

[00:15:55] 10 14 years of gymnastics, USA, gymnastics as well, us open tennis and whoever comes to see me, I usually give them a Shoflo just for fun. I’m like check this out, just so you know, when you go to a baseball game, there’s a reason that ribbon board says Adidas at this hour. And there’s a reason that this next inning, it doesn’t say Adidas and it says Pepsi or whatever, but yeah.

[00:16:12] it’s all planned.

[00:16:12] there’s there’s a reason 

[00:16:13] that commercial played. 

[00:16:15] Dane Reis: Yeah. And I always thought it was interesting how like like the organic nature of media breaks as well. Cause you just got to take advantage when it happens in sports. Right. Right. And , uh, that was always something that was really interesting to me and just how it can be so rigid, but it has to be so flexible at the same time.

[00:16:30] Very cool.

[00:16:32] Nancy Spooner: yep.

[00:16:32] You can start your opening ceremonies can hit the, hit the number perfectly get that first pitch or that kickoff. And then it’s kind of wild goose chase, but you have the parameters now of, in this ending, in this quarter, you need to get these sponsor reads, then you need to do these giveaways or whatever. Yeah, These shout outs, these birthdays. 

[00:16:49] Dane Reis: exactly right. Yep. Well, Well, let’s piggyback on that question real quick and let’s talk about your number one, booked it moment. Walk us through that day. What was going on in your life? And what about that moment? Makes it your favorite booked it.

[00:17:08] Nancy Spooner: Oh, my gosh. Yeah, that was my gymnastics moment because I left the Olympics , um, with a contact , uh, our press chief to Susan Poliakoff Shaw. She’s one of my favorite people on the planet. And she said, I love what you did here at speed skating. I want you to come over to USA, gymnastics. They need you. And I said, okay, I didn’t really know what that meant, but okay.

[00:17:27] And , um, so I, they flew me out to Ohio. I think it was Cleveland. I watched a gymnastics meet. I took a bunch of notes. And then the president at the time of USA gymnastics, he said, Hey, can you write me a proposal? You know, what would you do for us? Tell me. And I thought, oh my God, I don’t know what a proposal is.

[00:17:42] I Googled how to write a proposal. I don’t even know if like Google back then, but I researched how to write a proposal and I faked my way through it. And I just copied and pasted my notes and use this template that somebody else had already made online and put some photos of what I known from X games and Olympics and compared it to gymnastics and what I would do differently here and there.

[00:18:02] And yeah. I submitted it. And I put my rate in there and I put my pre-production in there and I truly, I just winged it, but it made me happy. Cause I knew I would accept if he accepted this proposal. I would also accept it as well. Cause it.

[00:18:15] made me feel like this is what I want to do. And this is what I would love to be paid to do it.

[00:18:19] And he said, Okay.

[00:18:20] let’s go world championships are next year. Okay. Yeah.

[00:18:26] And it worked. And I been there for, I think it’s since 2002 almost. So it worked. 

[00:18:33] I loved it and great, great family. Yeah. really neat.

[00:18:35] Really neat people. 

[00:18:36] Dane Reis: Yeah. And you know, I think the biggest takeaway from that as well is that it didn’t have all your ducks in a row. You didn’t really know what you were doing in a lot of ways with, in regards to the proposal 

[00:18:49] , but you knew how to do the job. You knew what to. Right. You had all this, all this experience.

[00:18:52] Yes. It’s a a different, a different sport, a different thing, but a lot of the fundamentals translate and transfer over and just having the confidence to just move forward. And this is the reality of this industry. I think just a life. It’s a good life lesson really is that we never really have everything figured out, but we have to go forward.

[00:19:14] Nancy Spooner: Yeah.

[00:19:14] take that. No, one’s getting out of here alive, right? That proposal. If you want to work for gymnastics, I was a gymnast as a little kid. I would love to work for gymnastics and it was dreamy. Yeah. 

[00:19:24] Dane Reis: that’s it? Yeah. Bring it back to the quote and love that. and. Well, let’s take a moment to talk about the present quickly. What projects are you working on now? What are you looking forward to? And we’re still kind of amidst this global pandemic we’re coming out the other end.

[00:19:40] How do you see this industry moving forward in the next couple of years?

[00:19:45] Nancy Spooner: Oh, my gosh. I’d say I want to get back to normal. I look forward to getting back to normal, but I don’t really know what normal is. Right. I don’t know. I see hybrid, I’ve already been on board with a hybrid event where some, there was attendees in the audience and we still had people that were watching online.

[00:20:02] And I have confirmed my first real show in 2022. We’re in the ballroom, in the convention center. It’s convention, you know, with up to 10,000 attendees. And that’s exciting cause I do miss. The show bacon that’s bacon in a cop in case you’re not familiar, but you missed your family. Like I’ve done that show.

[00:20:25] Oh my gosh. For 10, 12 years?

[00:20:27] one in particular that I just booked for 2022 and it’s the same team and it’s such a beautiful show and it’s huge and it’s seven days long and you take this convention center and turn it into this big magnificent, beautiful show. Your that’s your family, like you were in there for the long, a horrible hours, but everyone is so nice and friendly.

[00:20:45] So I look forward to being exhausted, but being with my teammates that are amazing at producing live events, I look forward to also still hybrid events. I don’t mind those at all because I really enjoyed being in my home office and making lunch for my kiddo or picking them up from school. I found that that is.

[00:21:01] Something that I miss out on when I’m always on the road. So I’m going to try to find the balance of getting my time out with my colleagues in hotels, in ballrooms or whatever, and getting my adrenaline pumping. And then also taking time to spend a little more time with my family and being here for those moments that I miss was always on the road.

[00:21:19] So. That’s what I’m hoping for. I’m hoping for a mix of a new normal that has me appreciating my home time working from home when I can, and also hitting the road when I can get that remote control all to myself and hotel room and not have to worry about packing lunches and doing dishes. 

[00:21:33] Yeah. 

[00:21:34] that sounds exciting. 

[00:21:35] Dane Reis: On the, on the hybrid events. Do you, so obviously this entire industry has gone virtual the last 18 months or so do you think that that virtual element is here to stay?

[00:21:47] Nancy Spooner: I just thought that everyone always asks that question to each other. You know what? I think it’s here for a while. I don’t know if it’s here to stay, but it might be because I think it’s saving people money and they don’t have to travel everybody. I think there’s a lot being missed when you’re not face-to-face, but I think there’s so many circumstances now that a companies are going to go, oh, no hotels, no food and beverage, no special entertainment like this.

[00:22:08] Actually we can accomplish getting our message across virtually or hybrid wise where not everybody has to go and be on show site anymore. So I think it’s going to be here for awhile. I really do. And I’m not complaining. 

[00:22:21] Dane Reis: Yeah, for sure. I I mean, I love the virtual thing. Of course. And the way I kind of see it as well as a benefit of virtual is say for a pharmaceutical company, for instance, that has, or any, it doesn’t have to be in a pharmaceutical company, any company that has a product that they are out, they have a sales team out there selling, you know, you know, do companies really want to remove their sales team from the market?

[00:22:45] A week, you know, or why don’t you just come and meet us here for a few hours, we’ll get the information you need. And then you can still be out there working your leads, working what you need to be doing. And same thing for say , doctors, doctors, it’s hard for doctors or specialists to just disappear from their practice.

[00:23:01] Um, but there’s a lot of ways I think. The virtual shows can get you the training and the information. Obviously being in person, it’s always the most ideal, but I think getting the information is sometimes the most efficient thing to do.

[00:23:16] Nancy Spooner: Right. Right. And now we know how to do it. I think before we didn’t really know how and you’d have it. Doctors Colin on Skype and we would connect them through the computer and you know, that was the way we would do it. And they’d call, dial in and we’d have a phone bridge, like it’s been done before people have called in virtually, but now we know how it can really be done.

[00:23:33] So I think you’re right. Keeping the doctors, they don’t have to travel anymore because they’re such a part of so many meetings I’ve been on lately and you’re right. Your sales reps. Keep them keeping the field. It might it, , it, it, I think you do need that sales meeting where it’s the hurrah and everyone, the team building any awards night, like that’s so important to them as well.

[00:23:51] But I think the stuff I’ve been doing a lot of lately is getting the message across to your people in your team. yeah.

[00:23:58] It’s your employees and you don’t need to be in the same city to do it. But the last show I did, it was simultaneous. I think it was like Chicago, new Orleans and Santa Monica in New York. So they had the KIPP kept our people in their region, so to speak. And then who, those who couldn’t be there were virtual. So it was pretty cool 

[00:24:18] to 

[00:24:18] Dane Reis: Yeah, 

[00:24:20] Nancy Spooner: got their message out and they still actually did some awards and 

[00:24:23] everything.

[00:24:23] Dane Reis: Yeah, very cool. Very cool. It’ll be interesting to see how everything develops and evolves in the coming months and years.

[00:24:29] Nancy Spooner: Right. And the beauty of, I think that hybrid event for us being selfish is they. 

[00:24:35] Because you need, you need, you need someone on every stage, you need someone backstage, you need, you know, these producers, you need more lighting people. You know what I mean? There’s just going to be more technicians and more event professionals to pull off these hybrids, which is good for us. 

[00:24:50] Dane Reis: Yeah, for sure. And I I think, think when it comes to events and it’s live events, people are used to right. The, the costs and the manpower that it takes and the virtual stuff is newer. So people are still adapting to, to what that actually takes to pull things off and. I kind of equated to, when you go on live events, there’s so many people that are on a live event that make it happen.

[00:25:09] And someone might only have a couple of things really to do, you know, when it comes down to it, but you go, what, why is that? Why are you paying someone all this money for really only doing a handful of things, but it’s because the entire event is so high stakes that it’s silly to have everything go wrong because of a couple hundred.

[00:25:28] Nancy Spooner: Yeah.

[00:25:29] One 

[00:25:29] person had too many things to do when, when you you’ve probably been there when you bring a presenter backstage and they see the gear and the people backstage like, oh my God, I had no idea what was going on behind this curtain. It always is so eye opening. And now that we’re getting them on virtual stages, they think it’s going to be just another zoom call and they are blown away again by how many voices can talk to them and are talking to them and are helping them set up the situation.

[00:25:56] And there’s a downstage monitor. If the computer turns into that and there’s teleprompter in front of them, they have no idea what it takes or how many people and they’re blown away again, the technology and the people that it takes to pull off these virtual events, because they’re just thinking it’s a 

[00:26:08] zoom.  You know, You know, another zoom call 

[00:26:10] and they realized that no, it’s actually a stage and you’re gonna, you’re going to feel like you’re on a stage because we’re going to change your computer screen in front of you to be your downstage monitor and your teleprompter and your slides. 

[00:26:20] And yeah,

[00:26:22] Dane Reis: Yeah, very cool. I mean, it’s just, it’s a learning curve for everyone. Right. And just realizing that it’s a full on product. Yeah, very cool. Well, Well, it is time to move on to one of my favorite sections in the interview. I call it the grease lightening round. I am going to ask you a handful of questions. I want you to answer them as quickly and concisely as possible one after another.

[00:26:45] Are you ready? 

[00:26:47] Nancy Spooner: Oh, my 

[00:26:47] gosh. Yeah, it’s ready. 

[00:26:48] Dane Reis: first question. What was the one thing holding you back from committing to a career in the industry? 

[00:26:55] Nancy Spooner: Nothing I wanted to do it. 

[00:26:57] So I did it 

[00:26:58] Dane Reis: Perfect. Second question. What is the best piece of advice you have ever received?

[00:27:04] Nancy Spooner: from my dad. You were five minutes early or you’re late. 

[00:27:08] Dane Reis: Oh. 

[00:27:09] Nancy Spooner: the room and see what needs to be done and 

[00:27:10] take out the trash. 

[00:27:12] Dane Reis: Oh, love that. Love that 

[00:27:13] Nancy Spooner: But it’s all my dad. 

[00:27:15] Dane Reis: So good third question. What is something that is working for you right now? Or if you’d like to go pre COVID, what was working for you before our industry went on? Pause?

[00:27:26] Nancy Spooner: Um, what’s working for me right now is having time more time with my family, not being on the road all the time. 

[00:27:31] Love it. 

[00:27:32] Dane Reis: Fourth question. What is your best resource? Whether that is a book, a movie, a YouTube video up, maybe a podcast or a piece of technology you found is helping your career right now?

[00:27:43] Nancy Spooner: Oh, my God air table, project management, software air, table, and slack. 

[00:27:48] Dane Reis: Yes. I love air table, 

[00:27:50] so good. 

[00:27:51] Nancy Spooner: my husband’s a creator. He helps me so much at their table and it’s changed my world. 

[00:27:55] Dane Reis: Yeah, fifth question. If you had to start your career from scratch, but you still had all the knowledge and experience you’ve collected from your career in the industry, what would you do or not do? Would you do anything differently or would you keep it the same?

[00:28:11] Nancy Spooner: Oh, I would have learned and found air table a lot sooner. And I would have hired an associate a lot sooner. I have an admin right now. Who’s helping me so much with contracts and billing and bookkeeping, and it’s making my life so much easier. I wish I would have done both of those a long time. 

[00:28:28] Dane Reis: yeah. Last question. What is the golden nugget knowledge drop you’ve learned from your successful career in the industry? You’d like to leave with our listeners.

[00:28:37] Nancy Spooner: Um, I always tell my students that just keep meeting people, keep asking questions, keep meeting people, and don’t be afraid to tell them what, you know, you know, 

[00:28:45] Dane Reis: love that because I say it all the time on this podcast that this industry, no matter what part of it, you’re in, it is all about relationships. Yes. You can not have any kind of longevity, any sustainability in this career without relationships.

[00:29:04] Nancy Spooner: right. right. And you need to be authentic. You need to be you and you need to. Be kind and work hard and you’ll be fine. And I tell that to the students all the time, you can reach out to me anytime with any questions, any connection I will help you do just don’t be shy. It doesn’t bother me at all. When someone wants help, just ask for help. People want to help 

[00:29:20] you.

[00:29:21] Dane Reis: Yes. People to help you love that. And to wrap up this interview, Nancy, it is time to give yourself a plug. Where can we find you? How do our listeners connect with you? Is there anything you want to promote?

[00:29:35] Nancy Spooner: Ah, and my website tempo live We’re always looking for new contractors that want to join our team. Um, there’s a link in there to join our team. And then it’s also great for , uh, production companies to jump in there. And if they need teammates, then they can actually get in touch with me there.

[00:29:50] And we have a Facebook page. Too active, but it’s not too dead. So it’s mainly Facebook. And then LinkedIn, of course, Nancy Spooner on LinkedIn. And that’s where I make all my connections and can help you find other people. If you’re looking for connections in the industry, I’m happy to share 

[00:30:04] who I know. 

[00:30:05] Dane Reis: Brilliant. And for everyone listening out there, I have put the links to. Nancy’s website in the description of this episodes, you can easily connect with her and also be sure to share this podcast with your fellow entertainers, coaches, teachers, arts, and entertainment educators, and anyone, you know, you know, aspiring to create a career in this industry. You booked. It is the number one resource of expertise on how to actually create a successful career in the entertainment industry case in point, everything Nancy gave us today such great perspective from.

[00:30:41] A completely new side of the industry that we don’t talk about too often here on the podcast. If you enjoy this episode, make sure you hit the subscribe button so you don’t miss the next one. Nancy, thank you so much for taking your time to come on the show today and have a chat.

[00:30:57] Nancy Spooner: Thank you Dane for having me, I’m very honored to be a part of this amazing podcast. We’ve got some super talented people in your episode.

[00:31:04] So thanks for having me. I’m very flattered. 

[00:31:06] Dane Reis: Thank you.