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EP 212: Mary-Leigh Moseley – Recording Artist (autogenerated)

Dane Reis: You booked it episode 212.

All right, let’s get this kicked off. I am excited to introduce my guest today. Mary Lee Mosley. Are you ready for this Mary Lee?

Mary-Leigh Moseley: I am so ready and so excited. 

Dane Reis: Brilliant. Mary Lee Mosley also known as ML. Mosley is a pop R and B artist based in Atlanta. Her interest in music started at a young age at only six years old. It was then that she took her first singing lesson and became a classically trained singer since then ML has love for music and vocal ability has only grown.

Now, 14 years later, she has transitioned to a more contemporary sound. Her debut pop single thin white line has been well-received with fans, commenting on her extensive vocal range. Her upcoming projects showcase her beautiful melodies and song writing abilities. ML. That is a quick intro of who you are and what you done, but why don’t you tell us a little bit more about yourself?

Fill in the gaps and a little bit more about what you do as a professional in the entertainment industry.

Mary-Leigh Moseley: Yeah.

of course. Thank you so much first and foremost. So I am from Valdosta, Georgia, which if you don’t know where that. Basically in Florida, it’s on the Florida, Georgia line five hours from the nearest city, Five hours.

from Atlanta where I currently am. I started seeing, like you said, at the age of six, I started in a kid’s choir and apparently I showed something.

because. The choir director went up to my mom and said, you need to get her into singing lessons. And that kind of started everything for me since then, music has been my life. It’s the only thing that I really do. And I love it. I moved to Atlanta at the age of 18. When I graduated from high school, I go to college at Kennesaw state.

Mary-Leigh Moseley: I’m still in school getting my degree. But I currently, I’m a recording artist. I’ve been writing songs for awhile and I’ve written over a hundred songs with people in by myself. I, yes, and I love to sing. I’m currently working on an EAP and just getting music 

out there for people. 

Dane Reis: very cool. Well,let’s get into this next section here because I’m excited to dig into more of that story, but first ML. I am a sucker for a good quote. What is your favorite quote? You’d like to share with everyone?

Mary-Leigh Moseley: My absolute all-time favorite quote is by Roy T. Bennett. It’s be the reason someone smiles be the reason that someone feels loved and believed in the goodness of 

people.

Dane Reis: Oh, that’s really lovely. Can you expand on that a bit and how it’s worked its way into your life?

Mary-Leigh Moseley: Yes, of course. So I heard this quote a couple of years back and it sums up everything that I, aim to be an aim to do with my life. watching my father, when he, when I was younger, he is the most, unconditionally kind person to everybody. And I think that. 

He’s shown me that we’re all put on this earth to love and support each other.

And you know, I always, since that has made that a priority in my life?

I don’t care how I’m doing at the time. As long as people surrounding me are taken care of and they feel loved and understood. I. Tend to go out of my way for anyone to feel valid and heard. And that’s why I was drawn to music at, such a young age, because it allows me to reach others and make others feel heard.

Mary-Leigh Moseley: And somebody else gets their pain and gets what they’re going through. And it also heals me at the 

same time.

Dane Reis: yeah, for sure. It’s, You get what you give, right.But you have to give first. And I think that’s, sometimes people forget that, especially sometimes in this, this instant gratification world that we really live in now, and these are the micro, entertainment things, you know what I mean?The tech talks and everything people want so much so fast.

But. Very often, it takes a lot of time before any of that kind of stuff really comes to fruition. And it’s because you give so much and that’s also what makes things so fulfilling in the end.

Mary-Leigh Moseley: Oh, yes. I completely agree. I think that I definitely am a person that believes that karma is real. And I think that you, what you give is what you get back. And that’s what I’ve strived to do. I’ve strived to give as much as I can give. And then in return, I will get what God or the 

universe thinks is for me. 

Dane Reis: Yeah, I love that. Well,let’s move on to this next section here in ML. Of course, you’re an entertainer, I’m an entertainer. And I think that you’d agree that this industry can be one of the most subjective, brutally, honest and personally emotional industries in existence. And you know,as well as I, that in order to create and have a successful career in this industry, like you’re having now takes.

Of dedication and hard work and yeah, there is an outrageous amount of fun and excitement and doing what we do. There are also our fair share of obstacles, challenges, failures that we’re going to experience and we’re going to have to move forward through. So tell us, what is one key challenge, obstacle or failure you’ve experienced in your career and how did you come out the other side better because of it.

Mary-Leigh Moseley: So one thing that I’m actually very open about now is my struggle with the view of my own body and, you know,being in an industry that is like the entertainment industry, where you’re constantly having eyes on you. I think. It was very hard for me to get out of my head and realize that, this view I have of myself is not.

Important in the grand scale of things, I’ve struggled with numerous body image issues and eating disorders and body’s morphea throughout my entire life. And so in the beginning, it.

was very hard for me to put myself out there. I was always terrified. Oh, someone’s going to see the flaws that I see in myself.

So in the past year or two, I would say it’s been the past two years. I’ve really put myself first. I think I wasn’t doing that for a long time. You know how I talked about earlier? yeah, Give so much to other people. I wasn’t giving back to myself and in the past year. And I think, especially with everything that’s been going on in the world, I’ve had time to sit back and realize that you need to spend time to know yourself and to realize that.

You’re not what society, you’re not society’s opinion. You are beautiful in your own. Right.And that’s just what I’ve had to overcome and learn through. I now, I still struggle. Definitely. I think anybody who struggled with those issues will tell you it, you never get rid of them, but I’ve gotten much better in the last two years of really realizing my purpose.

That if I like something, if I like something about myself,

that is good. 

Dane Reis: yeah, for sure. body image and the way we see ourselves just in general is, gosh, I think I would be surprised if there is a live performance entertainer of any kind that doesn’t. Judge themselves, right. A bit too harshly. And it doesn’t matter who you are, what you look like or anything. It’s because we’re all dealing just with our own brains and our own minds and the way we, it’s all a very individual thing. I remember growing or starting out in the industry and, my biggest thing Was trying to find a way to fit into kind of like a chorus on like within a musical.

Because one of my biggest problems is that I just happen to be more muscular and bigger. And I was trying to be a skinny. Leaner like chorus person. And it was, and I tried, you know what I mean?And it just, and I realized that’s just not my body. It never will be my body. And eventually as soon as I, you know,gave up, trying to make that happen and be a thing, it really that’s when things start changing in my career as well.

Dane Reis: You know what I mean? Because you are able to own who you are and what you’ve been given. Because we all have our strengths. Right.So play to that.

Mary-Leigh Moseley: Oh, definitely. Definitely. I, 100% agree. I think that.

because I’ve been doing this for so long, it’s been, I started singing when I was six. I am now 20. So it’s been almost, I’m almost about to be 21. It’s been about 15 years since I’ve started. And a lot of my youth and a lot of doing this has been the struggle with myself and posting videos and putting myself out there.

Mary-Leigh Moseley: And I think that in the last couple of years, Since I have stepped back and realized, I’m not going to change how I look and nothing’s going to change about me and your brain lies to you. Your blank, your brain will tell you, you look horrible when really you don’t. And so in learning that I’ve seen such an increase in, my happiness in this industry, you know,the opportunities that have opened up for me because I have stopped.

Being so scared of showing myself in what I have in my 

talent.

Dane Reis: yeah, for sure. And at the end of the day, You are there to share what, whatever your, I mean for you, it’s your voice and you’re singing right. For other people it’s whatever your creative outlet is like, that,that’s what you’re here for to share. it’s not about you sharing other things that are getting in the way.

I mean,we’re very subjective industry, And it depends, maybe you are a model and that is,your physicality is a big part. W, what you do, right? And the point is that you need to still own who you are and Don’t try to change who you, what you’ve already been given.

There are more, there’s more that you bring to the table than just some physical appearance. 

Mary-Leigh Moseley: definitely. 

Dane Reis: Beautiful. Well,let’s move on to a time that I like to call your. Spotlight moment. That one moment in time you realized, yes, I am going to be an entertainer for living or maybe it was, yes. This is what I need to be doing as an entertainer.

Tell us about that.

Mary-Leigh Moseley: yeah. because I’ve been doing this for a very long time, there have been many of those throughout my youth throughout my life where I’ve just been like, yeah, this is what I’m meant to do. I can’t imagine, you know,every time I step on stage, every time I. Every time I’m singing. I’m I realized yes, this is what I’m meant to be doing.

But one time in particular, that really stands out to me when I realized, oh yeah, this is definitely it for me was actually when I went to the studio to record Eldorado, I’d been in a studio before. Definitely. but I got in there and we were there for about eight to 10 hours. I think we got there.

8:00 AM didn’t leave til 8:00 AM. 8:00 PM that night. And, as we kept going and as I was just literally singing my brains out for the entire day, I realized that there was nothing else in that moment I would rather be doing. And there’s nothing. There’s nothing else that would be as fulfilling for me than just sitting here and saying, I have known since six and seven, that music was for me.

Okay. You know that moment right there, even though I’ve been in the studio before, even though that, I’ve been here for awhile, it was really then when I was like, okay, yes, this is what I’m good at. I’m this is what I’m passionate about. And this is what I should be doing

for the rest of my life. 

Dane Reis: yeah. Such a good story. I think. I think it’s fantastic when you have that moment. And like you said, you’ve had different moments throughout your entire career so far, but that one in particular stands out. It’s an amazing feeling. Isn’t it? When an entire day just disappears and you realize, oh my gosh, because you can almost the only way to really appreciate it is to reflect on it because in the moment you’re just so present.

Right. And then you go, whoa. Now that was a day. That was amazing. That was an experience. 

wow. I love those feelings. I love those moments because those have also happened multiple times for myself, throughout the career. So I know exactly what you’re talking about and, oh, what a wonderful time when you re when you have those, a little epiphany is throughout your day.

Mary-Leigh Moseley: Oh, gosh. Yes. And I’m such a, I’m an emotional person. Whether I like to admit it or not. I am a crier and I, every time something like that happens to me, even if I don’t cry, then I cry afterwards. I’m like, 

You know,if I’m crying by the end of the day, that’s a Good.

sign, which usually it does not mean that for other people, but I am such a crier and it’s a, you know,built up emotion that I’m letting out. 

Dane Reis: exactly. Right. There you go. let’s piggyback on that question real quick and let’s talk about your number one, booked it moment. Walk us through that day. What was going on in your life. And what about that moment? Makes it your favorite? Booked it moment.

Mary-Leigh Moseley: Okay. So when I first moved to Atlanta, I knew nobody. I didn’t know anybody in the music industry. I was fresh out of literally the middle of nowhere, which is Valdosta, Georgia. And Coming up here, I had to really reach out and make a name for myself in reaching out to people and seeing if they’d work with me.

And so for a couple of months, I had gotten into Jan Smith studios. And if you don’t know who John Smith is, incredible vocal coach, she’s worked with usher, Justin Bieber. She is an incredible woman. And so I worked with, Heidi Higgins, who was at her studio who has become a mentor and a therapist to me.

But Heidi is the one that got me into songwriting. I’d never really gotten into songwriting until the last two years. And then white line was the second song that I’d ever written. And when I wrote that song, I think it was. I was at a point where I was like, am I, how am I going to record this?

Mary-Leigh Moseley: I don’t know anybody, but I want to get started. This is what I want to do. And so I met with Jan and we had a hour long conversation about my goals and all of that.

And then. I think it was when we started making the plans to meet up in the studio and get started on my very first song. That’s when I was like, oh my God, I feel like I’m finally you making it.

I feel like I’m fine. Doing what I set out to do. And I felt like I had the world in my hands. it might not be a big moment to anybody else, but that’s, it’s the smaller moments that mean the most to me, I can get on stage, win an award, all of that. But I think it’s the smaller moments that build you.

And it made me realize, okay, I am an artist. People see that, and I’m not just doing this 

on my own anymore. 

Dane Reis: Yeah, you’re not doing it on your own anymore. I love that. A mentor, like you found, uh, to help, you know,sit down, like you said for an hour and think, all right, let’s actually talk about it because it’s one thing to say, Hey, I wrote a song, Hey, be cool to record it. we see that all the time.

Lots of people think they want something. 

Dane Reis: But it’s a completely different thing to make it a career and to really choose to do this. A profession, right? It’s a completely different mindset. And you need to know that someone is, this is what they want to do because it’s full on.

You gotta be very much committed to this path. and it’s amazing that you found someone like that. And then you’ve developed such a wonderful relationship in this industry, which I guess brings me to the point that relationships. There the make and break of any career in this industry, you need to be connected with people that are professionals in whatever space that you’re trying to break into, or to be a part of they’re integral.

Mary-Leigh Moseley: Definitely. Definitely. I think that the biggest thing that I would say to somebody who wants to do anything, wants to build a business, any of that, you need to be able to reach out to people who already have experience. 

When I learned how to do that, I then learned how to be on my own. And I learned that The worst somebody can say to you when you ask for help is no. You’re always going to get to know there’s always going to be some people that are like, no, I think that, you’re not ready, whatever, but you need to have people in your corner. You need to have people giving you advice because you don’t, when you start out on something, anything you don’t know what you’re doing.

I had no clue what I was doing. All of the vocal training in the world can not prepare me for recording in a studio or doing social media and all of that. The people that I’ve met in the last couple of years and the people that I have set out

to me and have reached out to have been the biggest asset and the biggest thing that has led 

to my success. 

Dane Reis: yeah. I love that. You said, the worst thing that can say is no, and I think we always forget. Because we let fear get in the way all the time and stop us. And we go, Ooh, you get in your head and go, what if this? And what if that, what if this is, it’s just make the phone call, write the email, make the connection, reach out.

Cause you never know what’s going to happen. And from my experience, I found people tend to be much more generous and open than you would think they are.

Mary-Leigh Moseley: Definitely. there are so many people that I’ve reached out to in the past and I’m currently reaching out to that before I did it, I was like, I don’t know. I don’t know if they’re going to take me seriously and. I decided, okay, whatever, if I’m not going to do it now, then I’m never going to do it and who’s going to do it for me.

So I reach out to these people and now I talked to most of them almost every day, and I’ve gotten the best advice of my life. And people are very open to helping new and upcoming artists and new and upcoming. Anything people love to give you information so that you don’t make the mistakes that they made. And that’s the biggest thing about it. And that’s the biggest thing I’ve had to learn. And so now I can sit here and if I find somebody, oh, I want to work with them. I can email them in five seconds and be like, okay, I would like to work with you. This is what I’ve got. Would you be open? When can you meet?

When can you hop on a phone call with me? Thank you for 

your time.

Dane Reis: yeah, a hundred percent. I think it’s also worth noting. So because a lot of, a lot of times people go, well, Do people just do that for free? Will you just reach out and people go, oh yeah, yeah,yeah. I can help you. I can do this. And the thing is a lot of times you will get a lot from people for,for nothing, right.Just because they want to be helpful and generous. But I think the other side of that coin is that you also have to realize that if you were going to be professional in this industry, that if you need some help or guidance or mentorship in any part of what you’re trying to do, there will come up. When you are going to have to compensate people for their expertise, whether that’s vocal lessons or acting lessons, or a coaching of some sort, right.There is a value in what other people have experienced and what they can provide you and bring to the table. And that does carry value, real value. And like I said, there’s a lot of stuff that you can get for nothing, except for your time and your commitment. but also know that. There will be a time when look here’s me, the artist, I’m also a business.

I need to invest in this business. And these resources have what I need.

Mary-Leigh Moseley: Exactly. And that’s such a good point because these people who are in the industry, and I think a lot of people who enter into industry go in know. To be completely honest with you. I did to go in with this mindset, oh, someone’s going to find me. Someone’s going to help me in any way that they can.

And while a lot of people will help you it’s to a point there is information that these people know in the industry, people above you, they have done what you are doing now. They’ve been through it. They’ve been through more than that. So that information that has led to their. It comes at a price. these people who are so good at what they do, there’s a reason and there’s a secret and they know it.

And why would they just give it out to everybody? It’s not open information. That’s why, whenever you know, I see online people like, especially on Twitter, Twitter is the biggest place. I love Twitter, but people will go on there and just ask for unsolicited advice. People , it’s not like that doesn’t work, but no business works like that.

These people who you’re getting advice from also have businesses as Well that they’re trying to keep up. So unless you can add something to them beyond the very first conversation, then you really, you’re not going to get much. You’re not going to get much 

more.

Dane Reis: yep. Wellsaid, and it’s and different people offer, varying degrees of what you can get from it, depending on what their perceived status may be in whatever industry it is. And I think we all know that. But I think you need to look at it and go, you know,put on your business hat. It’s something that a lot of us entertainers don’t necessarily want to do.

but you have to do it. Isn’t, it’s a requirement. If you’re going to make this, your career and your business, and you have to go, okay. Yep. That makes sense. There’s nothing strange about that. and to look at things and take the different pop potential opportunities out there for you, right.Way I’m up put pros and cons, is it worth me investing in this person or these lessons or whatever it might be that you’re trying to do and make it,a business decision as well?

Mary-Leigh Moseley: Exactly. exactly And you know,also to go hand in hand with that, a lot of times when you’re making those decisions, you really have to look deep and trust your gut and be like, is this worth it for me? To invest in because while someone can come with you with a great offer, I can tell you when I first started, I, when I first started my first song, I had so many people reach out to me wanting to do artist development, help me in this way and this way in this way, but for a price.

And that was not a price that I was ready to pay yet. I was not there yet. So you have to really realize while you’re reaching out to these people. And while you are trying to learn as much as you can. Don’t overshoot yourself. Don’t go beyond what you are at and meet people where you are. And you know,some people may give you the best offer in the world, but it is not meant for you at that time.

That’s one of the biggest 

things.

Dane Reis: Exactly. Right,exactly right. I think that’s very,Very well said. Very well said. let’s move on and take a moment to talk about the present. What projects are you working on now? What are you looking forward to? And you know, it kind of coming out of the tail end of this pandemic, or at least it looks like it.

how do you see the entertainment industry moving forward in the next couple weeks?

Mary-Leigh Moseley: Yeah. So right now I’m really just focused on writing. I’m focused on writing music that I like and recording things that make me happy. I am actually working on, like I said, in the beginning, I’m working on an EAP. I have a couple of singles out and I think that’s the next best thing for me. I’m really excited to showcase.

I’m doing there and, get a little bit more of give people a bigger taste of what I can do and what I can write and hopefully reach more people, in terms of how I see the entertainment industry moving forward in the next couple years. I really hope, at least for me to have read. People, no matter how big or small, you know,numbers, they matter to people, but they really don’t matter much to me, as long as I’m singing and reaching somebody. That’s the biggest thing for me. because the first and foremost, the thing I’m here to do is sing and write and be an artist. So really, I hope that, with COVID going away. There is becoming a lot more opportunity to go out and perform. And that’s really the only thing that I want to do. I want to be able to travel beyond Georgia, beyond Nashville, beyond the east coast of the United States and reach people, meet as many people as I can, and just touch 

people with my.

Dane Reis: Very cool. Love that. have you ever considered or looked into, finding like virtual stages and I’m saying I’m talking like virtual stages in like in games, Like a Minecraft or a roadblocks if ever thought about that. Or if that even is a possibility for something that like what you do,

I actually, that’s very new concept that I feel like. The pandemic and being in quarantine has really just it’s increased interest for stuff like that. And I think stuff like that is super cool. I, Ariana Grande’s, who’s one of my absolute all-time favorite artists. She just did a virtual concert with Fortnite, which I honestly to be completely truthful before she did it.

Mary-Leigh Moseley: I really I’d heard about it, but it really was not something that was at the forefront of my mind. I think that stuff like that. It really cool. I think that it’s crazy that we’ve been able to make it to that point in the industry. And I think that, I do think there are going to be options opening up definitely for more virtual concerts because people, like being in the comfort of their own homes.

And I would honestly be so open to doing that. I’ve never really. give the opportunity, but I think that’s really cool. But I also, while saying that, I think that it’s very cool. I think that it opens up your audience to people who are big gamers and are in that space. I do think that if that’s something that is pushed, we lose. What do you lose? I mean,you lose the live in-person shows. That means so much to people. And I think that I would prefer, because I know that the shows that I’ve gone to in my life have surely impacted me. And like we talked about earlier, I’ve had many of, yes, this is what I meant to do moments.

And a lot of those have been watching other artists on stage. I think that I would like to put it. My focus on that before I think about going virtual while that might be, I don’t know how that would go because then everything is moving virtual. But I think that there’s still a lot of beauty in a live concert and what you 

can do live.

Dane Reis: Yeah, for sure. I agree. I think the it’s you can’t really ever repeat. In person when you can’t really replace can’t replace the live, right? Because you can that energy, It’s hard to transfer that energy, virtually, I only asked because just a few weeks ago I was a sponsor or you booked, it was, I should say a sponsor of a, a production of the lion king that was done in Minecraft that was done live.

and I came across that project. I was like, wow, this thing is. Just very cutting edge, super niche. And I thought it was just so cool. I’m like, I just need to be involved with this thing and see what the heck is going on here. And I, it was amazing. It was really cool, but that just since then, that’s gotten my mind churning with, different possibilities.

Mary-Leigh Moseley: So I was just interested to ask and see if that was even like in the realm of thought. No. Yeah, Something like that is so innovative. I wish I could be, I’m creative, but not that creative. I think that’s tough. Likethat is really interesting. And I would definitely in the future, I would love to be a part of something like that. Cause it is super niche. Like it, it caters to. A certain group of people that is normally really hard to reach because a lot of those people, that’s what they do with their lives.

So I, I would be so interested in doing that in the future. And I do think that’s going to become a thing that is a lot more common. You’re going to see that way more, especially because everything is online now and maybe in the future, that would be a possibility for me, but I really haven’t thought about it until you just really talked about it until I saw it the other day, too, with our. 

Dane Reis: right.Yeah. Very cool. Anyway, crazy world we’re living in. 

Mary-Leigh Moseley: Oh, 

yeah.

it is time to move on to one of my favorite sections in the interview. I call it the grease light and around. 

Dane Reis: I am going to ask you a handful of questions. I want you to answer them as quickly and concisely as possible one after another.

Are you ready? 

Mary-Leigh Moseley: Yes. 

Dane Reis: All right. First question. What was the one thing holding you back from committing to a career as an entertainer?

Mary-Leigh Moseley: Myself entirely how I viewed my PR myself and my perfectionism have all prevented me from being a hundred, put myself a hundred percent myself in the past. And 

I’m working on that every day. 

Dane Reis: Second question. What is the best piece of advice you have ever received?

Mary-Leigh Moseley: Be the hardest working person in the room because then people 

can’t deny you. And yeah. 

Dane Reis: There you go. third question. What is something that is working for you right now? Or if you’d like to go pre COVID, what was working for you before our industry went on?

Mary-Leigh Moseley: Definitely setting out times in my day to sit down and just sing and write and be musical and be creative because I’m so busy all the time. And having That 30 minutes to an hour keeps me literally

saying.

Dane Reis: Yeah, for sure. That reminds me of a book. Have you read the book? The war of art 

Mary-Leigh Moseley: No, I haven’t, but I’ve definitely heard that title 

Dane Reis: Yeah. So there’s the art of war, which is. Been around for ages, but there is the war of art, which was written by a guy, came in. His name is alluding me at the moment, but it’s a fairly short book. And he’s talking about being an artist. He’s a writer and an author. And basically he’s every day when we show up to do our art, whatever that is, first off, you need to show up every day and do your thing.

Regardless. If you feel good, you feel inspired. He said your creativity comes because. Have done. You’re D you’re consistently almost trying to force yourself to be creative in a way. 

And by 

being consistent, that’s when creativity just continues to like, it’s like a muscle creativity. so I don’t know.

It’s really interesting book. So I would recommend picking up or get the audio book it’s really quite short. but it’s really cool. And it’s, I think it’s perfect for pretty much every single 

artist out there. It’s a must read.

Mary-Leigh Moseley: I definitely just wrote that down, so I will definitely be giving that away. 

Dane Reis: Yeah, for sure. and speaking of books, fourth question, what is your best resource? Maybe it is a book or a movie, maybe a YouTube video podcast, piece of technology that you found is helping your career right now.

Mary-Leigh Moseley: Okay. So actually it’s not a book, it’s not a movie. It’s something that is on everybody’s phones, voice notes on the iPhone. I record every single thing that I do. I’m singing 24 7 and ideas come and go. And so it ha it allows me to go ahead, record that idea on hand and never lose them. 

Dane Reis: For sure you should try out the app called Otter. Have you heard of this? 

Mary-Leigh Moseley: No. 

Dane Reis: So they’ve got a paid version like everybody, but the free version, you get 600 minutes a month and it is a voice. App, but it does live transcription of your voice memo

Mary-Leigh Moseley: oh, 

Dane Reis: and it’s a very, quite 

accurate. So give it a go,

Mary-Leigh Moseley: Thank you for all of these recommendations. Keep 

them coming. I need every single 

one. 

Dane Reis: it? Yeah, I use, that’s the thing. I do a lot of, note taking and journaling and things like this, and I’ve got ideas, just like a lot of us creative types. And I found that to be really helpful because even more so.A voice memo because I like that it accompanies it, but I’m like, Ooh, I can just read what I just wrote.

And that’s awesome. And I can export it to wherever I need to go. So pretty cool. and the fifth question, if you had to start your career from scratch, but you still had all the knowledge and experience you’ve collected from your career in this industry, what would you do or not do? Would you do anything differently or would you keep it the same?

Mary-Leigh Moseley: I good question. I would probably the biggest thing I can say to myself, reach out to people sooner. Don’t wait and hope that someone will find me. Put in the extra work that’s needed and I’ve always been good at reaching out to people. But in the beginning, I obviously, as we talked about, I was terrified of rejection.

So I was struggling to reach out. now I can talk to anyone and I’ve made some of the best relationships by doing that. But I would tell myself, just go ahead and send them. 

Dane Reis: beautiful. And the last question. What is the golden nugget knowledge drop you’ve learned from your successful career in the industry? You’d like to leave with our listeners.

Mary-Leigh Moseley: So one piece of advice that somebody gave me one time. And at first I rolled my eyes. I was like, no, absolutely not. Now I live by it. Not everything has to be perfect people. Do not like perfection. They like real raw mess ups, the voice cracks, everything. You are human. Don’t be hard on yourself. And if you liked it enough to post it or do it or whatever it 

is good enough. 

Dane Reis: Yes, it is good enough. I think that’s such a great golden nugget to end with because if you try to be perfect, you’ll never do anything. 

Mary-Leigh Moseley: No. Oh my goodness. I can’t tell you the amount of things that I have, not in my past that I have not posted have not done because I was like, my voice sounded a little weird. They’re not going to do that. it’s, stopped me from doing a lot of things. So learning that has been very hard. 

Dane Reis: Yeah. And when you post or when you share, and when you put the more you put things out there, which inevitably are imperfect, 

Mary-Leigh Moseley: Okay. 

Dane Reis: a really cool thing happens is that you become it. Like it keeps expanding this. This comfort zone of what you can take on and what you can do for yourself.

And that’s how we grow. We, it’s a bit scary to post that non-perfect the imperfect thing. Right.But as you do that, you go, all right, I did that. 

Mary-Leigh Moseley: Exactly. 

Dane Reis: except that what’s there and I did it, 

Mary-Leigh Moseley: now it’s 

Dane Reis: good and then you 

just keep doing it. 

Mary-Leigh Moseley: Yeah. And it’s not as scary as you thought it.

was to be, real in front of the 

masses. It’s not that scary. 

Dane Reis: Exactly. And then you’re, then that comfort zone keeps getting bigger and you move into bigger and bigger things, but you can’t progress if you don’t take those uncomfortable . Steps. 

Mary-Leigh Moseley: Exactly. 

Dane Reis: Yes. And. It is now that time to wrap up this interview, ML it’s time to give yourself a plug.

So where can we find you? How do our listeners connect with you? And is there anything you want to promote?

Mary-Leigh Moseley: So people can connect with me. The place where I’m most active is my Instagram. It’s going to be at AML Mosley music. I also have a Twitter at ML Mosley with two Ys at the end, and then my YouTube and my Facebook are ML Mosley. That’s the best place to reach out to me. You can also find me on all streaming platforms, Spotify, apple music, under ML Mosley, and something that I would want to promote would be my new single Eldorado it’s out on all major platforms.

It was a lot of work in progress, and I would want 

anybody to listen to it. 

Dane Reis: Beautiful. And for everyone listening out there, I have put the links to everything ML just said, so you can easily connect with her and all of our projects, it’s in the description of this episode. And also be sure to share this podcast with your fellow entertainers, coaches, teachers, arts, and entertainment educators, and anyone.

You know,aspiring to create a career in the entertainment industry. You booked. It is the number one resource of expertise on how to actually create a successful entertainment career case in point, everything ML gave us today. In this episode, if you like this episode, make sure you hit that subscribe button.

So you don’t miss the next one. ML. Thank you so much for jumping on and having a chat with me. I’m really glad we got connected. I had a great.

Mary-Leigh Moseley: I did too. Thank you so much for having me. I’m really honored that. I booked it And I can’t. Thank you enough.

Dane Reis: my pleasure.