EP 3: Danni Katz


Episode Transcript (autogenerated)

Let’s do this. All right, let’s get started. I am excited to introduce my guest today. Danny Katz, are you ready for this? Danny? Perfect. Danny specializes in all things theatrical and originally started in the entertainment industry with musical theater. Since then she has become a master at editorial makeup, hair and rooming.

Although she is great at the natural look. She excels in period pieces and wig work who were, can be seen on Erin Andrews and Christina pink, both NFL sports casters for Fox and her role of key hair on the movie. The last summer on Netflix, having trained under such greats as Dennis goths, Laura Poko, Teddy, Charles Samsonite, Kayleen McAdams, Kylie Heath, and Nam Vogue.

Just to name a few. Danny has taken her well-rounded training and created her own technique. Danny loves to think outside the box and develop new looks that meet each individual’s personality. She challenges herself to always create something fresh, sophisticated, and edgy with a hint of sass, Danny. That is a quick intro of who you are and what you’ve done.

But tell us a little bit more about yourself. Fill in the gaps, who you are, where you’re from, where you’re currently calling home and a little bit more about what you do as a professional in the entertainment industry. All right. Well, I guess it all started when we met in college at the Boston conservatory in Boston, um, when we studied musical theater and when I was there, I was in charge of all the hair and makeup for all the main stage shows.

I don’t know if he ever realized that I did that maybe. Um, but I did, um, I designed the wigs. I designed the makeup design. Mmm. You know, the whole, basically theatrical look of what the show was going to be, I think, where you would heaven and hell I was. Yeah. Okay. So I think I did like a white thing to make it hard to remember, but, um, that’s kind of, you know, I did all the drag shows.

I remember Dan O’Connor was not news. Um, he like, he was so Britney. Um, and then that kind of, um, brought me into the drag scene a little bit when I lived in New York. And, uh, I think it was always like my other thing, even in high school, I was super into glam. I always had to learn how to do period makeup because of the shows we were in and vaudeville days, you know, I was always so fascinated by bye, you know, just all things period, and just the different areas of what the looks were.

It was, it was so fun. So, um, I think when I was in New York auditioning, I would always kind of get pulled back into some, either hair, makeup, glam, like people always needed Glen for something. And I, my name would always get thrown around because you know, actors all know each other. And if you have an act, do you know an actor that has another skill, everyone will know you for.

So I ended up doing. You know, weddings here and there and you know, some drag queen tune there and some theater people, and, you know, I kind of became known as Danny does it, which is now my Instagram name because everyone would always joke, Oh, Danny, does it just go to her? You need a haircut, she’ll fix it.

She’ll do it. Like you need that. You need an outfit. She’s got it. I was kind of a hoarder of, you know, just costume pieces and I don’t know. All things dress up because we always just had things from shows we had done, and I just kept everything always, which was crazy. So I loved that and that transitioned into an entire, so theater.

So I got so busy with it in New York, and I think it’s that harsh reality. Can you really make a living doing theater in New York, or do you have something that you, that that is still artistic and still makes you happy and you can actually make a good living doing it? I think there’s that th that aha moment and just being like, okay, I guess this is, this is my path.

It kept, I kept pushing it off to the side being like, no, this is my other thing. This is my other thing, but it just kept taking over and I kept getting so busy doing it that eventually. I moved back to LA. I went to a very fancy beauty school and, um, you know, went into debt, doing that a little bit. Um, and you know, I went to a beauty school called Tony and guy.

They invented all of the bedhead hair products, which I always loved. So I was super excited to go there. Um, and it was, you know, it was real, it was, it was hard being, you know, in my mid twenties, going back to school for a different trade of some. And especially because I had already worked I’d, you know, I’d grown up in the industry.

I’d already seen, you know, all aspects of it. And I felt like I, I went in there knowing a lot of what they were teaching already. Right. But you know, you still have to get your 1600 hours, so you just have to like, basically count down your hours and just get through it. And I graduated first of my class.

I didn’t, I think I missed like one day the entire time. Cause I was just trying to like get in and out. I, uh, I had, I think I missed one day for a wedding. I had to, you know, be in casino how that duty works, but I was just, I got there early. I stayed late. I got in and out. And then as soon as I was out. I got hired at a salon.

I was starting a bougie Beverly Hills salon and started at the front desk to work my way up. Because if you want to charge, you know, those insane crisis, you have to really pay your dues and climb the ladder. And I realized very, very early on, I did not want to work at a salon and it was just so cutthroat in all of the worst ways.

Um, and so I started assisting for production people. Um, there are all these glam agencies, which basically, um, you know, people will reach out to agencies to book, hair and makeup or stylists or photographers for shoots. So, because there’s such a market for it in LA and New York, you know, they have agencies that represent us.

So I was able to get on a bunch of those agencies, assistant rosters. So that I could start working my way up that way, which I was much happier doing. Then assisting at a salon where you were just doing foils and highlights all day, which can get really boring, really fast. Um, and I assisted for some really big editorial, um, You know, hair and makeup people, as you mentioned from that list, and they basically kind of shaped the artists that I eventually became.

And you know, when you’re, when you assist for really big people like that, and they start to trust you they’ll start referring you clients referring you jobs. Like they actually really do help you. It, it is a really smart path to take because you know, you, you do things the right way and. People know you as having assisted for those people.

So they trust you because they trust them. So, you know, it’s a whole apprenticeship. Yeah, exactly. But it’s, it’s just a very supportive, I felt like it was much more supportive than salon, which is so dog eat dog and granted, there are a lot of us. Um, so it, you know, it’s competitive in a sense, but I feel like.

At least my generation of artists, we all really help each other. Like if I get double booked for something, I’ll refer a job to somebody else that I know and, you know, and it always comes full circle. We all really help each other. So it’s just, it’s, it’s nice. It’s just, you know, it’s one of the few industries that I feel like people really look out for each other, so that’s great.

I personally was not aware that there were full agencies dedicated to providing people like you. And that, and that in of itself has massive value for anyone that’s listening. That’s that loves a hair and makeup and wig work. And. You’re not really sure how this industry works right there. That’s yeah.

You know, this exists. It was news to me too. I got to tell you when I, when I went to beauty school, all I knew was TV, film production, because a side note, I grew up in LA. My dad works in the movie industry. So I grew up on set. I only knew TV movies, and then I knew. Salon. So I didn’t, I didn’t know about this other world of editorials and commercials and ad campaigns, and it’s completely separate from film and TV there that’s, you know, there’s the unions and then there’s, you know, the freelance stuff.

And then there’s the salon. So, you know, it’s, it’s figuring out where you fit and you know, some, there are some people who, who do it all, who, you know, will do like a show once a year, like a movie here and then, you know, in between their next show or if they are writing like, um, and artists train like Jennifer, Aniston’s not doing anything that year, then you have more free time to do more freelance stuff and creative, like editorials and such.

Um, but I feel like. For the majority of the people are one or the other. But I try to, I really, really enjoy being on a movie set. So I, I try, I try to do more shows. I’m trying to do at least like one show a year, which would be my goal and then freelance in between. But, you know, it’s kind of what. How, how much work your agency is bringing in for you that year?

How much of your own work you’re bringing in that year? Because agencies aren’t necessarily going to get you a TV film, because that’s kind of your own side hustle. They’re going to help you get, you know, the commercial work, the ad campaigns, the editorials, um, the celebrity red carpets, you know, that’s, um, It’s this whole hierarchy of, you know, there’s a talent, we’ll have a team of, you know, a manager agent, a publicist, and the publicists usually reach out to agencies to book us, you know, for red carpets.

And then if you, like, I had one year that I was with Gillian Flynn the entire year. Mmm. I went to the Toronto film festival with her for. Uh, widows, which we all thought was going to be a huge Oscar contender. And then I was riding that whole wave. And then right before that happened, I was on sharp objects with her and a little background of Gilian Flynn.

She wrote gone girl, she’s a huge author producer show runner. She’s just like a beast of a woman. And I’m so proud to be on her team. She’s amazing. So that year she happened to have, you know, a huge movie and a huge HBO show. So I was super busy with her. And then in between that I was on the road with football.

So, um, which we’ll get into later. But, um, you know, because I was just with that one particular client and she was doing so much, she got my priority that year. And then I went into award season with her. But if you don’t necessarily have, you know, an artist that you know is having a year like that, you’re going to be getting a bunch of one off.

But you’re not necessarily guaranteed to ride a wave into award season, if that makes sense. Absolutely. Absolutely. So, yeah. Great. Perfect. Well, let’s move on to the next section here. And look, I am a sucker for a good quote. What is your favorite quote that you’d like to share with everyone? I actually love this question, so.

I think, I don’t know where you are there freshman year where you no. Okay. So I was in dorm 26, the 20, 26, the Fenway or whatever it was called. And, um, our RA Stacy would always put these cute little, um, Like they almost look like fortune cookie size, little pieces of paper that had little written quotes on them to get us through, you know, impossible or freshman year.

Um, when you’re 18 years old. And, um, there was one that I have kept with me forever and it was dreams were made a size too big, so we could grow into them. And I thought that was so cute. And I even had it on my resume for awhile. I just had it out the bottom and little metallics. I. I’ve had it on. So many of my pages when social media had first started, it was my little thing.

It was just my little blurp. And in so many of my bios, you know, for, in, in a playbill, when you were doing a show, that was my quote. And I think it’s so relevant to, you know, no matter what you do. I think we all have these huge, big dreams, but it’s such a climb. You know, it’s not just going to happen overnight.

You really have to put in the work. So if your dream is, is a size too big, you can still grow into it. I love that. That’s a fantastic quote. Well, let’s move to this next section. So Danny, of course you are in the entertainment industry. I, of course I’m in the entertainment industry and I think you’d agree that this industry is one of the most subjective.

Brutally honest, really emotional industries that either of us know about, know that as well as I to create a, to have a successful career in this industry, like you’re having now, it takes a lot of dedication, a lot of hard work. And while of course, yes, there is an outrageous amount of fun and excitement being in this industry.

There. Are also your fair share of obstacles, challenges, failures, that we’re all going to have to experience, and we’re going to have to move forward through them. So tell us, what is one key challenge, obstacle or failure that you’ve experienced in your career and how did you come out the other side better because of it.

So this kind of goes, you know, my, my whole path, you know, moving back to LA from New York after I had ever done my whole, my whole world was being on stage was theater, you know, all of it. Um, I think that even if you, I think even if you change careers, you never stopped being an actor. It’s always going to be who you are.

I feel like that’s why I’ve connected so well with a lot of the talent, because I just understand the struggle, you know? Um, but I think, you know, moving, starting over. You know, um, going back to school, if you, I feel like it’s, it’s a lot, you know, a lot of people are afraid to go back to school later on in life, but I feel like you can never really stop learning.

And I. I feel like having my, my cosmetology license gets me so many jobs over other people who somehow are in the industry and don’t have it, which is mind blowing, but, but they it’s. There are people that, you know, are just makeup artists and. You know, it didn’t go to school or self-taught because there’s so many ways to do that now, but you know, to be a hairstylist, you have to have a license, but there are some who don’t.

So get your license highly recommend. Um, you know, it’s also in, in the world of, you know, celebrity of, um, You know, it’s, it’s really hard. You know, we are constantly being judged. There are a lot of us out there. So when it comes to, you know, the talent, choosing who they want, some people are very loyal.

Emma Stone is like, A godsend. She has used the same team since day one. She is never strayed. That is so rare. There, there are so many people that just want to use someone different every time. Cause they just, they love the idea of seeing something new every time. There’s also some people who are just never going to be happy, no matter what you do.

There’s some people who love you and you’ll, they’ll use you like five times and you’ll be like, great. I’m in. And then all of a sudden they’ll move on to their next person for five more times. And then the next, you know, so it’s just. It it’s, it’s hard not to take that personally. It’s hard not to, you know, put all your eggs in one basket and think that, you know, It’s it’s like as much as we want to be loyal to two people as well, you always have to remind yourself that a lot of people aren’t.

So that’s, that’s a constant obstacle to keep your head in the right place and not take those things personally, because. It’s not you, it’s not necessarily your work. It’s just people wanting to constantly change it up. And there’s just so many artists. And so many people have different takes on hair and makeup.

And you know, some people are heavy handed. Some people are very light. Some people are, you know, into that. Super heavy, like Kardashians beat down, which is like an industry of its own basically. Now, you know, it’s also, so, uh, I did football, you know, one year and then the next year Disney and Fox Bert merged.

And, you know, they cut the budget by $20 million. So that job no longer existed. So it’s, um, it’s just, it’s constantly. Finding your next job, you know, the same as, as being an actor and jumping from show to show, to show like we jumped from gig to gig to gig, but also not just putting all of your eggs into working with celebrities, you know, you know, definitely keep your foot in the ad door.

Definitely. Like if you can pick up a show once a year, do that. There’s, there’s so many ways to stay creative and not just rely on. You know, one particular path of just going the celebrity way or just going the movie way or just going, you know, the editorial way or just the ad way, like find a way to do it all so that it makes you happy.

And I feel like that has worked for me, not, not to expect loyalty from everyone, but just to do the best job that I can possibly do and bring the best positive attitude I can do because you know, if you’ve ever gotten a haircut, like a haircut and a chair, You know, we were therapists we’re, we’re the ones that hear it all.

We are the closest we’re touching phases. We are all up in there. So coming out of quarantine, it’s going to be definitely an obstacle of how we’re going to be that close and personal with people having a shield on. But, you know, we’ll find our way out, of course. And I love that, you know, you’re just owning yourself and owning the work that you do, you know, what you bring to the table and to own that, I’m also hearing that.

It sounds to me that it’s really about building those relationships with all those different doors that are open, whether that is the shows, whether that’s commercial worker production work or whatever it might be, that it’s about. Nurturing those relationships. Yeah, exactly. And relationships, even on the celebrity side, if, even if that person’s only used your five times, their publicist, their agent, their manager they’ve they saw, they know that the talents like that, their team saw that they liked your work.

So they’ll book you for their other artists. So it’s all about building your network also. So it’s not just necessarily pleasing the talent. It’s about pleasing their whole team and it’s, you know, It’s just about, it’s about building loyalty anywhere you can, even if it’s not necessarily from the talent.

Right. Of course, of course. Great. Well, let’s move on to this section. It is what I like to call your spotlight moment. That moment in time that you realized, yes, I am going to be part of this entertainment industry for my life. Tell us about that. So I think this goes because I’ve had my foot so far into two completely the same industry, but two different sides of it.

So, you know, I was in front of the camera now I’m behind the camera. Uh, and I just, I think. The, the, I guess the best show that I did was the show called. It was lucky, uses the wild party and Dick van Dyke produced it and his protege was in it. And I remember after I did that show, I was like, this is what I’m going to do.

Absolutely. This is where I want to be. And then right after that show Dick van Dyke himself was like, you need to move to New York. You need to go, you need to go for Broadway. And I’m like, okay, take that guy. If that makes sense. I’ll listen to you. Okay. So I moved to New York and, you know, I, I felt like I gave it a go, but it was just, it was a weird time when everybody on Broadway was a movie star and there just wasn’t a lot of opportunity for new new people.

I mean, you, you know how it was, um, So I felt like having, having glam as my side thing and everyone, everyone loved that. I did glam. Everyone loves how I did it for them. I was everyone’s person. So I think that, you know, just having that moment of just knowing that I have this other thing that I was good at, and I could go back to LA and just.

Go for it. Great. Well, let’s piggyback on that and let’s talk about your number one, booked it moment. Walk us through that day. What was going on in your life? And what about that moment? Makes it your favorite book moment. Four for the theater show. I’d have to, I’m going to have to say for both jobs, because I guess one led me into the other.

Um, but definitely that show. I remember being at the callback and seeing Dick van Dyke, just in the audience cause they had the callback at the actual theater and I was just like, well, that’s, that’s nice. Um, and just getting that job was because that, that role that I was named Dean and in lucky uses version, she’s a major part.

It’s a much bigger part than in a lip as version. So I, that was kind of a dream role for me. And, you know, having that take me to New York. Um, but then, you know, I guess my, my biggest book did. Uh, Indus or glam job, you know, I did this job, um, you know, I had a crazy year where I did a movie and then I was with the Gillian Flynn train.

And then I went on the road with football and then right into award season, you know, that was, that was a crazy year of just like, I felt like I was really just killing it. But then the year after, you know, with the budget cuts from. You know, from Fox and then, you know, gillion didn’t have anything that year.

And so everything that I had built up, it just sort of, you know, it was very eyeopening to just kind of realize that I always had to look for my next big thing. And just be really excited for the next big game, even if it was for three or four days. So I did this, um, this, I got this music video for an artist called Lauren Daigle, and she is a Christian artist that crossed over.

Um, and she is an amazing person. I got, I got a call from an agent. Um, Lauren Daigle wants you to do this job with her on a glacier in Alaska. And I just started kind of, I was like, wait, excuse me. Is that, is that possible? Is that like a thing? So she’s like, yeah, you’re flying out next week and you’re doing this music video for four days.

So, you know, I, you know, jumps on a flight, went to Alaska. You know, it was a crew of about 11 of us. We could only take two helicopters and we could only bring on the helicopter as much as they would allow. Weight-wise right. So they, they weighed us all. They weighed our stuff, so, and I have a setback, but I’m doing both hair and makeup.

So I have a lot of stuff and it’s, you know, freezing or standing on a glacier for 18 hours a day. Also the sun never goes down in Alaska so you can shoot forever. It’s the sun is out for it just doesn’t go down. It’s a strange thing. It’s very, very fascinating. Um, But I think after I finished that gig, I was just so proud to have been part of such a production like that, of everything that I had done.

It was just the most amazing team of people. Everybody did, did jobs that were bigger than their own. We all, you know, it was a small crew of us. We had to make it work. You know, the, the production manager was flying the drone for the wide shots and, you know, Um, everyone was just picking up, you know, we would all hold extra things.

We don’t want to put anything on the ice. So, you know, every, everyone was just picking up everyone in Slack and it was just amazing to be a part of such a team of people that just have each other’s back like that. Who you, you, you don’t even know these people, but we all just came together and did that.

And I think that was probably just. It was, it was all of the things just being a part of that kind of production, you know, for sure when everything is vibing and everyone is just there to create something amazing together and we’re all in it together. I love that. Yeah. Cool. Well, let’s take a moment to talk about the present.

What projects are you working on now? What are you looking forward to? And. Obviously we are amidst this global pandemic. And how do you see this entire industry moving forward in the next couple of years? You know, it’s such a hard question to answer because we are in a pandemic and, you know, even, you know, my agency, I always I’ve been, you know, I check in with them from time to time just to see how everyone’s doing.

Um, and no one really has any answers yet. I have a little bit of insight because my dad works in the entertainment in the film industry. So he at least knows what’s happening on that side. Or at least what’s been in talks of what’s supposed to happen. Right. So from what I’ve heard is Sony, I don’t know about other studios, but I’ve heard of particularly Sony.

This is just the first idea they floated around. Sony wants to buy a hotel. And basically how’s anyone that is working on the lots, um, out of this hotel, they’re going to, you know, take everyone’s temperature and then you’re basically kind of. You know, stuck the production is basically going to have you on lock down during the run of the show so that the only people that are staying at the hotel and are going in the vans and are on in that stage or wherever they’re working are the people that.

You know, are only in that particular crew. So they’re trying to find ways, you know, everyone’s going to have like a box pre-made lunch. There’s going to be no buffet-style situation, which is, you know, what movie sets are, it’s all catered. It’s just a free for all. So, you know, I’ve heard so many different ideas of how that’s gonna work, but the issue with the unions, if you hold people hostage, basically you’re going to have to pay them for 24 hours.

So it’s, it’s, you know, no studio can afford to pay that much overtime. So there’s, there’s all these clauses, there’s great ideas, but then there’s, you know, the clause of how that could possibly work and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So as far as, from what I’ve heard of, of film, that’s kind of the, you know, the route they’re trying to go down and figure out how to, as far as freelance.

Um, I’ve heard of a few friends doing, you know, random, very small e-comm jobs, which are basically catalog or website, you know, clothing lines or whatever, with just a skeleton crew and just, you know, maybe five people and not having an assistant and just making it work with all of the guidelines I’ve heard.

And this scares me a little bit of models coming with their own hair and makeup done. It makes me a little scared that we might lose jobs, but maybe it might just be an offsite hair and makeup or something like this.

It’s not really a thing. Of course. I mean, I totally get that, but I guess we’re in a strange new world. The only time that we are on a do and go would be if, if, uh, if talent has. A red carpet event or something. Cause we don’t, we don’t attend carpets. If it’s a press day, we’ll usually go. I imagine now everything is going to be doing goes no more, no more us riding the train, doing touch-ups all day.

It’s going to be a Duolingo. Here’s a touch up kit. You’re on your own. I’m from, I feel like that’s just a way they’re going to try to keep the crews as small as possible. So it’s not necessarily ideal because there are a reason. You know why we, we are supposed to be on set all day. There’s there’s a reason, you know, we have a setback for touchups and there’s a reason why we have a job.

So, you know, it’s just, we’re all just going to try to, you know, make it work any way we can, if that’s how it has to be, then we’re just gonna have to train the talent, how to do their own touch-ups you know, for sure. So a very unique. World moving forward. Yeah, for sure. Great. Well, let’s move on to one of my favorite sections in the interview.

I call it the grease lightning round. So I’m going to ask you a handful of questions. I want you to answer them as quickly and concisely as possible. Boom, boom, boom. One after another. Are you ready? Let’s go. All right. First question. What was the one thing holding you back from committing to career in the entertainment industry?

I think opportunity, which I realize you have to make your own opportunity. You can’t ever wait for it to happen. Perfect. I think that is very sound advice for anybody listening. Second question. What is the best piece of advice you have ever received? So I grew up dancing at a studio called writer’s Academy of dance in Agoura Hills and my mentor, who was a top teacher owner of the studio, always told us to go forth and be brilliant in whatever we did.

So I’ve kind of carried that with me throughout life. I love that third question. What is something that is working for you now, or if you’d like to go pre COVID, what is something that was working for you before our industry went on? Pause? I think, um, what was working was, you know, constantly staying creative and constantly challenging yourself to keep up with, you know, there’s always.

A new beauty product. There’s always a new launch of something and keeping up with it. And I think I’m just obsessed with, with new products and trying new things. And I’m lucky enough to get sent a lot of products at this point in my career, which is I dreamed of the day that would happen now. I don’t even know what to do with it all, but just saying I’m very informed on what’s new and I, whenever I get a product and there’s not necessarily a list of what it is, I always will look it up and, you know, get as much knowledge of it as I can.

And then I always get really excited about it. And then I tell my clients, and then it’s just, it’s a whole lot of fun. I’m like, there’s this new thing. Let’s, let’s try it. Why not? I wouldn’t do, you know, but moving forward, I think everything is just going to be so different because of all the sanitation guidelines, you know, it’s just, it’s, we’re all just kind of sitting on a waiting game at the moment, but yeah.

Great. Well, let’s go to the fourth question is your best resource, whether that is a book, a movie, a YouTube channel or video podcast, some piece of technology that you found is helping your career right now. No. Well, I think during this time there’s been so much Mmm. Push for social media. There’s been a lot of brand deals.

People are giving to, um, pro artists instead of influencers to get them to, you know, even if they just demo on themselves, how to use the product, or I feel like there’s no better way you can learn than from a pro follow the pros. You know, I know there’s like this, there’s this fine line between influencers and pro artists.

And. You know, everyone has their own style and, and, you know, idea of what they want, you know, their, their glam style to be, I guess. Um, but I choose to, you know, that there’s a lot of pros that now have YouTube channels. There’s a lot of pros that do you know, the video or demos on their stories every day, or, you know, have.

You know, IETV stuff coming out. So follow those people learn some learn from the pros they know, and people will respect that, you know, absolutely fantastic advice. That’s a great resource. And the fifth question, probably my favorite. If you had to start your career from scratch. But you still had all the knowledge and experience you’ve collected from your career in this industry, what would you do or not do?

Would you do anything differently or the same? So I think every step kind of gets you where you need to be. I think, you know, if, if I were to give myself advice, it would just be to follow your path, you know, kind of. Take every, every step as a learning experience, don’t let any one thing defeat you, you know, there’s, there’s, there’s like, as I talked about loyalty and you know, there’s also this, this competition with social media and keeping up with it and I feel like it’s so hard to keep your head in the game.

So time sometimes when you’re overwhelmed with all of that and. You know, you know, there’s, there’s, there’s some people who, you know, will look at your following instead of your work. And it’s hard not to get petty about that, but you just have to keep your head on straight and really focus on just, just doing what you love and creating, you know, art and good work and just stay on that path.

Focus on that. Perfect, great advice. The last question. The golden nugget knowledge drop you’ve learned from your successful career in the industry that you would like to leave with our listeners? I think it kind of goes it’s similar to the last, um, the last answer, I think, you know, follow your path.

Don’t let that don’t let anything hold you back. Just, just go for it. Go forth and be brilliant. Dreams are made of size too big. So you could grow into them. You know, it’s just, just do you, you know, get it done. Well, you know, we have a platform to promote ourselves. Now, if you want to, you know, go that route and you know, the B you know, painting your own face on social media and, you know, as long as you’re teaching things correctly, I’m all for it.

Um, But, you know, try not to get caught up in social media if it’s not, if it’s gonna mess you up, but also it’s, it’s such a big part of what the industry expects of us now. No, one’s going to ever go to my website. They just want to go to my Instagram. So I have to, you know, Keep it updated enough. So it just looks like a clean page and I’m representing who I want to represent as an artist.

Right? Absolutely. You know, I think social media now is so important these days. Um, and everyone needs it. You also almost have to think of Instagram, I would say as your running resume. Yeah. I mean, I have a love, hate relationship with it because I just, I feel like we’re just not the generation of the millennials who like, live for it.

Who, you know, I think tick talk, I looked at it and I was so overwhelmed. I was like, Oh gosh, what is this? I can’t, I just figured out Instagram, I can’t keep up with all of it. Um, but there’s so many platforms that you that are expected to keep up with. I’ve never had a Twitter and I, I feel like I’m so misinformed because I don’t have one, but you know, for, for me, it’s I just have to try not to get overwhelmed by it, but just do as much as I can to stay relevant, especially now there’s so much pressure of.

What are we doing in quarantine? You know, how are we, how are we still, you know, keeping our name out there. And it’s a lot of people, you know, doing their own tutorials. Would you like, I did a tutorial on my mom the other day and I did some on my roommate before and no, it’s just. Any way that you, I personally don’t love painting my own face on camera.

I think it’s really hard to show. Um, and I really enjoy teaching. So I think it’s easier to teach when I’m doing it on somebody else. Right. Um, but you know, to each their own, for sure. And I think you make a good point where social media, there are so many platforms now and. It’s very easy to get overwhelmed, keeping them all updated, or maybe it’s just trying to stay relevant on all of them and grow your followers.

And it just becomes a bit too much after a while. And while it can all be important, I think. Maybe just choose one, you know, maybe one, maybe two at the most, and just work on that and focus there. So you can, so you can work on your art because that’s why that’s what you’re doing all this for. Anyway. No, it’s not for followers.

It’s not for looking great on social media really. So you can, you can do you and to keep and to not lose sight of that. Exactly. Well, thanks. Well, Danny, it’s time to wrap up this interview. So that means it’s also time to give yourself a plug. Where can we find you? How do our listeners connect with you?

Is there anything you want to promote? Well, you can find me on Instagram at Danny. Does it D a N N I does it. You learned how I got that name earlier? Um, and, uh, yeah, I do hair makeup grooming and special effects. Um, so I do it all. It’s all fun. If I think if I did one thing, I would get bored. So I, I feel like I’m always picking up something new to add to the list, but.

You know, it’s all, it’s also fun. Um, I’m represented by Tracy Mattingly agency, uh, which is, I guess we’re just sort of dormant at the moment, but we’re just on standby until we get out of this. But you know, there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Well, we’ll, we’ll make it out and, you know, we’ll get back to being creative and.

Very clean and happy. And a side note. I feel like people don’t realize that state board is entirely about sanitation. You know, you have to learn 1600 hours of how to, to cut hair and all that. But the whole state board process is just about how many times do you sanitize your hands and your tools? And, you know, so people that are licensed, there’s just something to say about people that have that license who already know that.

Um, well, when I, when I see these guidelines, it’s just some of it’s some of it’s so funny, cause it’s like, if any of us don’t already follow those protocols, they shouldn’t be working. That’s gross. You know, there’s, we’re, we’re clean, we’re healthy. We’re, you know, doing whatever we can to be prepared for the next, you know, uh, I guess, level of what the industry is going to be.

But, you know, we’re all, we’re, we’re all going to get through it and hopefully. You know, there’ll be a new show to watch. Definitely check out my movie the last summer on that slick. Um, we filmed filmed that out in Cleveland. It was super fun. Um, it’s got KJ APA from Riverdale. My Mitchell, all of basically young Hollywood is in this movie.

It was, uh, created by the guy who did Valentine’s day mother’s day, new year’s Eve, where it’s that huge crossover path with people, um, a huge cast. So. Really fun movie. Really good summer movie, especially now when we just need all the summer on screen, we can get, cause we can’t travel or anything. So, um, yeah.

Check that out. Beautiful. Well, Danny, thank you for joining me today. It was a pleasure to have you. This was so fun. Thanks for having me, Dane. Thank you so much for joining us today. My one call to action for you is to go to youbookeditpodcast.com and join our free email community. Where we dig deep into a continually growing resource of truly actionable things you can be doing right now to help you advance your entertainment career.

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