EP 36: Georgia Tapp (autogenerated)
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[00:01:22] Let’s do this. All right. Let’s get started. I am excited to introduce my guest today, Georgia tap. Are you ready for this?
[00:01:33] Georgia Tapp: [00:01:33] I am so ready for this.
[00:01:35] Dane Reis: [00:01:35] Let’s do it. All right, Georgia is an American actress currently living in London, UK. She recently made her UK DBU as Carmen Diaz in Nick Winston’s UK tour. Yeah, she has traveled all over the world as a lead vocalist for both celebrity cruise lines and Aida cruise lines.
[00:01:55] Other past credits include under studying Ellen in miss Saigon. All of Ostrow ski in 25th annual Putnam County spelling bee Ellie in some enchanted evening, Kathy Selden in singing in the rain, Natalie in all shook up and Jill in Equis. Georgia. That is a quick intro of who you are and what you’ve done, but why don’t you tell us a little bit more about yourself, fill in the gaps, who you are, and a little bit more about what you do as a professional in the entertainment industry.
[00:02:28] Georgia Tapp: [00:02:28] Cool. So I was originally born in Berkeley, California, and then I moved to Boston where we went to school together at Boston conservatory. So I studied musical theater there for four years, got a BFA. And then I quickly moved to New York city to pursue musical theater. I worked regionally and then.
[00:02:48] Obviously, you just said that I worked on Aida cruise lines and celebrity cruise lines, which I got to travel the whole world. And then it ultimately brought me here to London and I moved here about a little over a year ago and I’m pursuing theater here now. So that’s kind of the little
[00:03:05] Dane Reis: [00:03:05] fantastic, well, let’s move on to the next section and look, Georgia.
[00:03:11] I am a sucker for a good quote. What is your favorite quote? You’d like to share with our listeners?
[00:03:19] Georgia Tapp: [00:03:19] So one of my favorite quotes is from one of my favorite ladies in the world, Judy Garland. And it is always be a first rate version of yourself and not a second rate version of someone else.
[00:03:33] Dane Reis: [00:03:33] I love that.
[00:03:35] And how have you applied that quote too? Your career and your daily life?
[00:03:40] Georgia Tapp: [00:03:40] So I think it’s just great to be yourself because there’s nobody else in the world that is going to be you. I think that we always try and fit sort of into a box in theater or in the entertainment industry. And instead of doing that, why not just try and be your best self because.
[00:03:58] Nobody else is going to do that except for you. so yeah, I just try and do that in my own personal life and in theater and entertainment, I love
[00:04:06] Dane Reis: [00:04:06] that. And I can relate to that so much as well, going to the Boston conservatory and trying to be your stereotypical of course, boy, you know? Yeah. I simply, my body structure is just not that I’m okay.
[00:04:21] Much bigger, much more muscular. And it’s just one of those things that as much as I tried. It was impossible. And eventually I, you go, look, this is me and I gotta, I gotta embrace what.
[00:04:32] Georgia Tapp: [00:04:32] Oh, yeah, totally. I mean, I think I even coming out of that school, I was told, you know, I was the leading lady, I think even just telling myself that it narrowed what I could do and what I actually saw myself doing in.
[00:04:49] Just in the entertainment industry in general, I only kind of, it just like pinholed me into one place. And I was like, actually, I’m not just the leading lady. I’m, I’m kind of funny. I can do quirky things and I’d actually like to do other things just than that. So I think I kind of had to learn to teach myself.
[00:05:09] Really see who you are instead of trying to see what other people are ultimately telling you a lot of the time.
[00:05:15] Dane Reis: [00:05:15] Absolutely. And I love that you mentioned her, the Judy Garland quote, two days ago. I watched, have you watched that new movie Judy with Renee Zellweger?
[00:05:22] Georgia Tapp: [00:05:22] Oh yeah. She’s amazing. And yeah, now it’s so great.
[00:05:26] It’s such a heartbreaking story, but
[00:05:28] Dane Reis: [00:05:28] it really is.
[00:05:29] Georgia Tapp: [00:05:29] Yeah.
[00:05:30] Dane Reis: [00:05:30] Great movie.
[00:05:32] Georgia Tapp: [00:05:32] Yeah.
[00:05:33] Dane Reis: [00:05:33] Well, let’s move on to this next section and. Georgia you are an entertainer. I am an entertainer. And I think you’d agree that this industry is one of the most subjective, brutally, honest, personally emotional industries, neither of us have ever experienced.
[00:05:52] And you know, as well as I, that in order to create and to have a successful career in this industry, like your having now, it takes a lot of dedication and hard work and why. Yeah, there is outrageous amount of fun and excitement to be had being an entertainer being on stage. There are also our fair share of obstacles and challenges and failures that we’re going to experience and we’re going to happen to move forward through.
[00:06:20] Tell us what is one key challenge, obstacle or failure you’ve experienced in your career and how did you come out? The other side better. Because of it.
[00:06:30] Georgia Tapp: [00:06:30] I wouldn’t say it’s one. I would say that it’s a constant challenge and it’s just having to deal with rejection. You know, I’ve been so lucky enough to have jobs that.
[00:06:44] Have the jobs that I’ve had, but they are so few and far between, and it’s really how you kind of have to just deal with the criticism and the constant telling him, like saying no to yourself, and how it affects your mental health. And. The thing is that I’ve just learned over the years. And I think it just comes with age and experience kind of dealing with this day to day of what it actually takes to be an actor or in the entertainment industry.
[00:07:11] And just trying to be nicer to yourself and not take it so seriously or personally, and learning how to build that strength to endure it. But then the other thing is like to not become cynical about it. You know? so I would say that it’s, it’s a constant struggle you do deal with, but I’ve learned to kind of how things roll off my shoulder a bit more.
[00:07:35] And I’ve just learned that no, it comes with it, but pay off when you do get those jobs, it’s so worth it in the
[00:07:41] Dane Reis: [00:07:41] end. I completely agree. I completely agree. And absolutely it that you, by bringing that up, I’m glad that you brought that up because hopefully anyone who’s aspiring to be a professional entertainer or you’re new three, to hear that and to realize that that is just part of life.
[00:07:58] And that, of course, you’re going to have to develop your own way of coping and dealing and getting through these challenges. Yeah. Knowing that they. Are a constant thing in pretty much every single professional entertainers life is also makes you feel like you’re part of it as well. You’re not unique in thinking that you’re being hard on yourself or being frustrated because everyone is experiencing that in that like you’ve done over your career, you’ve learned and matured into that and found your own solutions.
[00:08:30] Georgia Tapp: [00:08:30] Oh yeah, totally. And I mean, I have friends who. Are only now, I mean, I’m 32 years old. They’re only now kind of coming into their careers and they had years and years of rejection before that, you know? And so it’s just kind of. Understanding how you can deal with that. And then, you know, your career might start just a bit later.
[00:08:51] Everybody’s path is going to be different. but yeah, you’re definitely not alone in feeling that way. And it’s, it’s trying to understand how you can be more kind to yourself, because it is a part of life, you know, rejection. but you just gotta keep on pushing through it. You know, if you have that dream and you want to continue to.
[00:09:10] To succeed.
[00:09:11] Dane Reis: [00:09:11] Absolutely. Well, let’s move on to this next section now to a time that I like to call your spotlight moment. That one moment in time where you realized, yes, I am going to be an entertainer for a living or maybe it was, yes, this is what I need to be doing as an entertainer. Tell us about that.
[00:09:34] Georgia Tapp: [00:09:34] So I’ve always been a creative person since I was a little kid. My mom is an artist. She’s always been a dreamer. You know, I kind of grew up in that world where it was just born. I was just born like that. But, I would say. When I was 10 years old, I got to do my first musical, which was the Wiz, which is hilarious.
[00:09:56] I played, I played the Ted man.
[00:10:00] Dane Reis: [00:10:00] Oh my God.
[00:10:01] Georgia Tapp: [00:10:01] That’s amazing. It was with like an entirely black cast. I was the only white person in the show. It honestly blew my mind how these people became my family, this community of theater, people just envelops me into their world. And I, I just, I realized by creating something with people that I, I didn’t know before you could.
[00:10:29] Have these bonds and these connections that you just wouldn’t get from being in school or going to a dance class or going to a voice lesson, it was like through creating like musical theater that you got these great connections with people. And I think that’s ultimately kept me. Wanting to be in the theater industry.
[00:10:48] And like in the entertainment industry, it’s like getting to create with other people on that personal level. So when I was 10, I was like, Oh, this is what I’m going to be doing for the rest of my life. And luckily I had a wonderful, supportive mom who was like, Yes. Yes, you can do all of these things and I’ll help you.
[00:11:07] I get to school and do it. And so, yeah, I knew from when I was 10 years old,
[00:11:13] Dane Reis: [00:11:13] I love that. That’s a great story. And let’s piggyback on that question quickly and talk about your number one book. That moment, walk us through that day, the auditions and call backs. If those happened to be part of it, what was going on in your life?
[00:11:29] And what about that moment? Makes it your favorite? What moment?
[00:11:34]Georgia Tapp: [00:11:34] so. I I’d love to talk about when I booked Carmen in the fame tour, out here in London, it was my first show here in the UK, which was really exciting. and so basically what happened that day, we had to go in for a dance call and I think it was about two to three hours of dancing and they had a stew jazz.
[00:12:01] Just a jazz dance, where we had, Oh, I think there were like 30 people in this tiny, tiny room. So it was very, very crammed and there we’re making us like kick and leap and like do all these pirouettes and it was very intense. and I kind of just was like, I want to go for it. Let’s see how this goes, whatever.
[00:12:18]cause we didn’t have that much room honestly, to like learn the choreography. but I just kept going. and I got through and then we had of all things, a ballet cut, which. Made me sweat so much. Haven’t had to do I’m like, why are we having to do ballet right now? I have had to do like an Adagio for years.
[00:12:39]but so yeah, we had to do some ballet, which was a bit of a challenge, but I also just. Persevered and got through it. and then after that they made another cut and then we ended up singing. So they, I think out of that, like 30, I think they had two groups of 30 people of 30 girls. And then I think they may be kit eight of us to sing.
[00:13:03] And then I went in. Saying a Kelly Clarkson song and kind of, and just left. And it was very quick. The singing was, you know, in and out very quick. and then I think the next week they called me back and this is like such a theater actor, trying to like hustle situation where, so in London I’ve learned that you, when you get it’s a lot harder to get the audition here than it is in New York, you know, once you do get that audition, it’s like, Yeah, you can’t ask to change the time you can’t ask to change the day, because like that’s the one chance that they want to see you.
[00:13:39]because it is, it’s just a lot harder for some reason to get seen here than it is in New York. Okay. And so basically I knew I had to get to my job. I teach fitness classes. And I had the audition literally at the same time. And I was like, you know what, I’ll just get there maybe two or three hours early.
[00:13:58] See if they’ll see me early, maybe somebody will like switch with me. We’re just going to hope and I’ll, I’ll get, I’ll get to work somehow. and then luckily someone was really, really sweet, wonderful woman. I was like, Oh my gosh, I can switch with you. I don’t have to go anywhere. So she ended up switching spots with me, which was a godsend.
[00:14:17] I went in. I didn’t have it, everything fully memorized because it was a very quick kind of turnover. so I had all of the lines and everything. In my hand, even though it was a final and yeah, I just kind of went for it, sang my songs and then Oh, right. Because I didn’t actually have all of the lines like fully memorized.
[00:14:37] I definitely made up some words and my Carmen is a very, like, she’s got a bite to her. She’s got like an edge to her. And at the end of the scene, I, I dropped the F bomb then just like walked away. But I honestly think those moments of like, kind of making it up and it really showed like pieces of Carmen and that character to the, my auditioners basically.
[00:15:03] And yeah, and that’s, that’s how I got it
[00:15:07] Dane Reis: [00:15:07] by dropping the ball. Yeah, it’s worth it. It’s good for more than just some colorful conversation. Yeah. I love that story. Well, let’s take a moment to talk about the present. What projects are you working on now? What are you looking forward to? And of course, it’s a weird time.
[00:15:29] We are amidst this global pandemic. How do you see the entertainment industry moving forward in the next couple of years?
[00:15:37] Georgia Tapp: [00:15:37] Basically right now because of COVID. and the pandemic, I’m not currently working on anything. I was auditioning up until everything’s sort of shut down in London and then I had to self I do.
[00:15:50] I had to do a few submissions of self-tapes. But then basically they got back to me and said, well, we don’t know when we can have you actually come back in for a final, call back, but we’ll be in touch in the distant future. so I’m kind of just trying to stay creative on my own, by singing at home, playing my guitar.
[00:16:11]and then I also teach fitness classes online. So getting into that online world. But yeah, I’m just interested to see. What is going to come out of this pandemic and how I really hope that theater people appreciate live theater in a totally different way than they did before. Just that communal feeling of all being together in one space and seeing this creatives live performance in front of you.
[00:16:39] But I wonder if there’s going to be some like weird experimental, wacky, creative. Digital things that are going to come out of this. but yeah, that’s kind of what I’m excited
[00:16:50] Dane Reis: [00:16:50] about. Absolutely. I was speaking with someone the other day, and he was working on a project that is using Twitch to do some live streaming kind of, it sounded like a bit of a choose your own adventure kind of production.
[00:17:04] Georgia Tapp: [00:17:04] That’s cool. I
[00:17:05] Dane Reis: [00:17:05] love that. I love that people are embracing this. Seeing what’s there because we’re in this new landscape. Yeah. Almost anything is possible at this point, more than ever.
[00:17:16] Georgia Tapp: [00:17:16] Oh, for sure. Did you ever see if there was a movie on Netflix where it was kind of a choose your own adventure movie that they put out?
[00:17:23] I think this is maybe a year ago where you were able to like go through the movie and then click which way the character would choose to go. And then however you would click on it. It would change the. Have you have you
[00:17:41] Dane Reis: [00:17:41] done something about it, but I have, I certainly haven’t watched it or experienced it.
[00:17:45] You’ve just,
[00:17:46] Georgia Tapp: [00:17:46] you’ve just reminded me of it. But I can’t honestly, I’m sorry. I can’t remember the name of it right now, but it was kind of this choose your own adventure where it incorporates the people that are at home, you know, watching online and somehow creating that connection between them and the screen.
[00:18:05] Dane Reis: [00:18:05] Well, I guess I know what I’m doing after this interview. All right. Well, it is time to move on to one of my favorite sections of the interview. I call it the grease lightning round. I am going to ask you a handful of questions. I want you to answer them as quickly and concisely as possible one after another.
[00:18:26] Are you ready? I’m ready. All right. First question. What was the one thing holding you back from committing to a career as an entertainer?
[00:18:37] Georgia Tapp: [00:18:37] I would say the lack of stability and then the constant rejection.
[00:18:42] Dane Reis: [00:18:42] Fair. Second question. What is the best piece of advice you have ever received
[00:18:50] Georgia Tapp: [00:18:50] from my mom? Never, ever stopped streaming.
[00:18:54] Dane Reis: [00:18:54] I love it. Third question. What is something that is working for you now, or if you’d like to go pre COVID, what was working for you before our industry went on pause?
[00:19:06]Georgia Tapp: [00:19:06] I would say be more kind to yourself and also just find ways to be creative on your own, especially during this time. And COVID yeah.
[00:19:14] You know, your passions going and keep your Methods going of keeping yourself fit for when we all have to come back. I love
[00:19:23] Dane Reis: [00:19:23] that. And thank you for bringing that up because I think so many, so often us as entertainers, when we’re moving from show to show or gig to gig, whatever it might be okay. Tends to be where our focus is.
[00:19:34] And we also, it’s easy to get caught up in that. That is how we, we get ourselves artistically or creatively fulfilled is by doing that professional work we’re actually receiving income for, but. It’s great. I think in this time where we’ve had some time to reflect and go look, we are actually in control of how creative we want to be.
[00:19:57] And to realize that we are in these inherently super creative people in this industry. And we have so much control on creating art by ourselves.
[00:20:05] Georgia Tapp: [00:20:05] Yeah, I completely agree. I mean, I think, yeah, we don’t give ourselves enough credit to do our own work and make our own stuff. You know, we think that we always have to find stuff outside of us, but it’s really all within us to do it.
[00:20:20] And we got the time now. So, so you got to do it.
[00:20:23] Dane Reis: [00:20:23] Absolutely. And the fourth question. What is the best resource, whether it’s a book, a movie, a YouTube video, maybe it’s a podcast. Maybe it’s a piece of technology that you found is helping your career right now.
[00:20:39] Georgia Tapp: [00:20:39] Okay. I would say that I’m a very old school kind of a person.
[00:20:43] So I don’t know if this is any new information, but I love music notes.com. I think it’s simple. I find all of my audition songs, piano sheet music from that, and they have so many different, songs out there now that you can find. And then I also use a piano on my phone constantly. so that those are my two go tos.
[00:21:06] And then I would also say a really great book. It has nothing to do with theater, just like life it’s called your badass by Jen Sincero and. It’s just helps me with my personal life and also just with my career.
[00:21:21] Dane Reis: [00:21:21] Yeah. Brilliant. So with music notes, do the good thing about that is you can transpose things as well.
[00:21:28] Right? Very
[00:21:30] Georgia Tapp: [00:21:30] Yeah, you can find different keys for the sheet music. So yeah, if you need to transpose it down a half step or up like two steps. Yeah. It’s super, super easy.
[00:21:40] Dane Reis: [00:21:40] Yeah. I think I use it a couple of times.
[00:21:42] Georgia Tapp: [00:21:42] Yeah. I mean, I use it constantly because I feel like I’m, I’m being brought in for so many different things.
[00:21:48] A lot of the time, like I do have a set rep book, but I think I always like to find something that. Is new and inspires me instead of just singing same stuff over and over again. So it’s a really good resource to, you know, just, and it’s not very expensive too, purchase it. And I find that the, the sheet music.
[00:22:09] Pretty easy to follow. So it’s never too complicated for a pianist to read, you know, sight read. Cause sometimes, you know, if you bring in like a Sondheim piece, people are like, Oh gosh, this is a bit too much for me to do in an audition. I always find that music notes is like pretty basic and it, it does what you need and it helps the pianist to be a better pianist for when you need to say.
[00:22:32] Dane Reis: [00:22:32] Absolutely. I think that is really good advice for anyone that is getting music to, not, to not bring some crazy complicated music.
[00:22:42] Georgia Tapp: [00:22:42] Yeah, I’ve definitely been there and done that. You don’t, you don’t need to add that stress of doing something like that.
[00:22:49] Dane Reis: [00:22:49] No, it’s already enough, but you’re collaborating with someone that you’ve just met.
[00:22:52] Georgia Tapp: [00:22:52] Yeah.
[00:22:53] Dane Reis: [00:22:53] Okay. Okay. Yeah. Alright. And the fifth question. If you had to start your career from scratch, but you still had all the knowledge and experience you’ve collected from your career in this industry, what would you do or not do? Would you do anything differently or would you keep it the same?
[00:23:14]Georgia Tapp: [00:23:14] definitely say.
[00:23:16] And we’ve already talked about this, but to find ways to be creative on your own, because you do find that your, a lot of the time, you know, having to have a side hustle and then just audition and then you don’t get that time to be creative and actually feel fulfilled because sometimes, you know, auditioning doesn’t really bring that joy.
[00:23:37] So if anything. Find that creative outlet that you can do at your house, a house or with your friends, or, you know, start writing a show or write some music or find those moments to be creative on your own. And you’d be surprised at like what opportunities can come out of just doing that. And then I would also say.
[00:23:59] You’ll get a lot of great advice from well-informed people in the industry, but then you’re also going to get a lot of bad advice. And I would say you don’t need to listen to it. Everybody’s advice that they give you just because they might be a bit more informed or they’ve worked in the industry a bit longer or they’re older than you, or I would just say that there were moments that I think I took seriously some advice and it didn’t benefit me because it just, it kind of took me away from who I.
[00:24:34] Who I am. I was trying to make me somebody else, you know, if that makes any sense.
[00:24:40] Dane Reis: [00:24:40] Absolutely. Perfect sense.
[00:24:42] Georgia Tapp: [00:24:42] Yeah.
[00:24:44] Dane Reis: [00:24:44] And the last question, what is the golden nugget knowledge drop you’ve learned from your successful career in the industry that you’d like to leave with our listeners?
[00:24:55] Georgia Tapp: [00:24:55] I would say that they, and I was told this a million times when I was in college.
[00:25:00] And for some reason it didn’t always sink in for, for whatever reason. I think I just had stars in my eyes, but there is absolutely no set plan four a career in the entertainment industry everyone’s path is going to be so vastly different. And you just kind of have to go with the flow, knowing that your career will.
[00:25:22] We’ll go the way it should, you know, you can’t define yourself or put yourself, like we said earlier in a box or set this path for yourself. Obviously you can give your self goals and things to work towards. but just know that you might, I have to Bob and weave around a bit to get to that goal. And it’s definitely not going to be, you know, the same as somebody next to you.
[00:25:46] Dane Reis: [00:25:46] Absolutely. I think that’s it incredibly great advice because I mean, for me, I never made it back to New York because I met an Australian and fell in love with her. So yeah, I’m much happier with that path because it’s the best part of my life now. And if I would’ve just Ben close minded, then I would have never, but open to that.
[00:26:06] Georgia Tapp: [00:26:06] Yeah. I don’t think I would’ve ever, if I had said no to, you know, the cruise jobs that I ended up taking, because I think when I started doing cruises, they were. It definitely had a bit of a different. You know, people were like, Oh, you’re going on a cruise, you know, instead of staying in New York and trying to be on Broadway and stuff, it didn’t, I mean, now it has like a lot more weight to it and people really respect it, but I think, you know, maybe eight or 10 years ago, it wasn’t as respected, but.
[00:26:35] I’m so happy. I went and chose that because I wanted to travel and it ultimately led me to London, but it opened my world up to so many other possibilities and so many people and so many experiences that I would never, you know, regret giving. Yeah. So
[00:26:51] Dane Reis: [00:26:51] love it. Love it. And to wrap up this interview, it is time to give yourself up lug, where can we find you?
[00:26:59] How do our listeners connect with you? Is there anything you want to promote?
[00:27:05] Georgia Tapp: [00:27:05] So, yeah, you can find me on Instagram at Georgia tap, and then you can also find me on Twitter at Georgia M tap. yeah. I’m. Just trying to put out good energy into the world. I teach lots of fitness classes now that we are trying to stay at home and be online.
[00:27:24]they, yeah, hopefully once theater kind of gets back up and running, you’ll see me in some more things out there. but yeah, that’s
[00:27:30] Dane Reis: [00:27:30] about it. Perfect Georgia. It has been fantastic to have you on today. Thank you so much for joining me.
[00:27:37] Georgia Tapp: [00:27:37] Yeah. Thanks for having me. This is so wonderful.
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