Stephanie Hibbert (autogenerated)
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[00:01:24] Okay, let’s get this kicked off. I am excited to introduce my guest today. Stephanie Hibbert, are you ready for this step? Yes, I am. All right. Stephanie was born in Toledo, Ohio in raised in Lawrence, Kansas. Stephanie began her professional career as a dancer singer actress for carnival cruise lines in their Broadway style production shows for almost seven.
[00:01:49] Years after that she moved to Las Vegas where she has worked in over five, 500 conventions, trade shows, special events, representing numerous companies, and has been fortunate to travel the world through most of these opportunities. Stephanie has appeared in commercials for names such as Dodge station casinos and Johnny legends.
[00:02:11] She has also performed in six production shows on the infamous Las Vegas strip, including the rat pack is back purple rain, legends in concert, MJ live and the lead snow queen in winter in Venice, Stephanie. That is a quick intro of who you are and what you’ve done, but why don’t you tell us a little bit more about yourself, fill in the gaps, who you are, where you’re currently calling home and a little bit more about what you do as a professional in the entertainment industry.
[00:02:43] I’m well, thanks, Dane. That was a great intro. I’m currently living in Edmond, Oklahoma, which is a suburb of Oklahoma city. we moved here about a year and a half ago, just to slow down and try life at a different pace. So currently, I’ve just been working a couple trade shows here and there where I fly back to Vegas for longterm clients that I’ve had.
[00:03:06]I did do new year’s for premiere show girls out. In Phoenix, Arizona. so any performing opportunity or, spokes modeling and presenting, speaking opportunity, that comes my way. I take it just to kinda keep fresh with everything. but for the most part, I’ve slowed down a lot at this point in my life, compared to what I was doing, prior to Vegas.
[00:03:29] And then also, while I lived in Vegas, Totally. And you’re so right, because you are the hustler of hustle, I think. And that is a fantastic thing to be in. You’re always busy, but I also love that you have developed so many great long lasting relationships with so many different companies that now you also have more of the freedom to not necessarily be in a specific location where whatever trade show or convention might be, but.
[00:04:00] You can fly out and it’s justifiable and it works for you. So you have a lot more freedom in your life. I do. And it’s, I really cherish the fact that I was able to establish those relationships. And, you know, even since moving to Oklahoma, I’ve been able to, create and nurture some new ones with people that I didn’t necessarily work for a lot while I lived in Las Vegas, but they will still reach out to me specifically for a lot of the presenting and.
[00:04:25] Speaking jobs that come through, for different companies at trade shows, but you know, still for the showgirl gigs, sometimes for some traveling shows, I have them reach out to me. And I think it’s a really beautiful thing that I was able to leave the city where I thought I was, you know, closing the book on the, I should say, turning the page on that chapter in my, but that the door is actually still open.
[00:04:48] Yeah, I love that. Well, let’s move on to this next section here. And look, I am a sucker for a good quote. What is your favorite quote you’d like to share with our listeners? I really always, go back to the one that. You know, nothing worth going for that is a big dream is going to come easy. So whenever, you know, I’m auditioning and getting rejected or submitting the MIGS admitting, and they’re moving on to someone else, I always just go back to my self that, you know, the right job will come my way, as long as I’m patient and understand that, you know, it is a lot of hard work to get to where you want to be.
[00:05:29] Absolutely. And. I’ve actually heard that something similar to that come up with a lot of different people that have been on the show so far and you’re right. It’s so true. And those well, that realization really comes from a place I think of maturity, you know, based on, or compared to, I should say the beginning of our careers where we’re all a bit more sensitive for the most part.
[00:05:56] And we take things a lot more personally, but. For anyone that’s younger, that’s newer to this industry, aspiring to be in this industry, know that that is part of this entire journey and that it’s easier said than done, but that maturity does come. And to know that it’s something that everyone is a place that everyone eventually gets to.
[00:06:16] It does take some time. you know, you have to have thick skin. A lot of people say that about our industry. A lot of, people on the outside say that they could not do it, you know, because you’re, it’s almost like you’re interviewing for a new job all the time when you’re auditioning for gigs or for a different show.
[00:06:35] And there’s a lot of people that just don’t have the ability to create that thick skin, to be able to continuously do that. Absolutely. I actually have had multiple conversations with non entertainment related friends of mine from childhood, and I get the same response. They’re like, I could not do what you do in your life.
[00:06:56] I need that consistent paycheck. I need that. But then also the flip side of people talking about, you know, Oh, I went out for this job. Well, I had this interview and that interview and I didn’t get it because of this reason. And that reason I’m thinking. Yeah. And you’re like, I got, I didn’t get gas because I was an inch too short.
[00:07:12] Right. You know, something so subjective, right? Oh my gosh. The number of times you’re, you’re too short. You’re too tall. You as a woman, you know, you have long blonde hair and we’re looking for a brunette or a redhead. you know, you’re just half an inch too short, or your body doesn’t look right in the line with the rest of the bodies of the performers.
[00:07:31] It’s it’s so subjective. Div as a performer. And it’s just, it can feel very personal where I think when you’re interviewing for a job, I mean, it is based on your skill set, but performing is based on your skillset and so much more. Absolutely. Absolutely. And let’s get into this next section. So Steph of course you are in the entertainment industry.
[00:07:57] I am in the entertainment industry and I think you’d agree that this industry is one of the most subjective, brutally, honest, personally emotional industries. In existence and you know, as well as I, that in order to create and to have a successful career in this industry, like you’re having now takes a lot of dedication and hard work.
[00:08:21] And while yeah, there is an outrageous amount of fun and excitement doing what we do. There is also our fair share of obstacles and challenges and failures. We are going to experience and we’re going to have to move forward through. Tell us what is one key challenge, obstacle or failure you’ve experienced in your career and how did you come out the other side better because of it.
[00:08:47]I’m actually gonna go back to my very first cruise ship contract. So I had a supervisor who wasn’t really funny of me and I’ll be honest. I, they showed up at rehearsals and I was. Not as toned as I should be. I, I was, I felt like I was just so new to everything. I had no idea what I was, was walking into and, I was actually walking into for me DOB.
[00:09:12] So, you know, it was a show girl show that, you were in. A bikini, very little clothes on stage. And I was like, Whoa, I had no idea. This is what I’d be doing. The supervisor actually really tore me apart for my body. And it was, it was devastating. The things that she said to me, it was really awful. I mean, I don’t even want to repeat it because it was nitpicking parts of my body where, I mean, I still struggle at times thinking about her words and just the whole contract, how horrible she was to me.
[00:09:44] But, You know, I thought I have trained so long to get to this point. I have wanted this job so bad for so long. I’ve wanted to be a professional performer. I wanted to do these shows. I wanted to travel the world on a cruise ship. And I thought if she needs me. To get myself in check, then I’m going to do whatever it takes.
[00:10:05] And I’ll tell you what, yeah. In those rehearsals I ate broccoli and yogurt and I learned the shows and I would run at night. And in the morning I was really crazy, which was, you know, not, not the safest healthiest way to lose the weight, but I was determined to keep the job. and. You know, as a young performer, what you know now, when you look back at what you did is honestly that you can be healthy and lose weight and maintain your weight.
[00:10:35] And it can all work out, but I didn’t know that then I just thought you have to do drastic measures. So, I’ve overcome, you know, the eating disorder. Issues that I have now later in life and definitely understand the workouts that helped me stay fit and in shape and the way I should look, if I want to be able to book performing jobs, I understand the diet right.
[00:10:57] That I need to eat. but you know, it took time when you’re younger, too, your metabolism is different. So, you know, and if you’re not walking around. If you’re not dancing in a bikini on stage, you’re not really going to be thinking that much if you’re like, Oh, well these chips and salsa harm me. No, cause my clothes still fit.
[00:11:15] So it’s just, I had to really learn a lot about that. And I always thought I was healthy, but really making choices, to keep the career that was, you know, a bigger dream of mine than having the snacks that I wanted. Yeah. And I do love that you brought out how. You found the diet that works for you and the workers workouts that work for you?
[00:11:38] Because I think a lot of times we, as people, we see people working out in the gym, you know, the CrossFit thing, lots of squats and legs is a big thing right now. And that’s totally fine and great. And if that works for you good. But it’s also good to know that everybody’s body. Reacts and interacts with different diets and different exercise, very differently.
[00:12:00] Some people like myself can build muscle very, very easily and very, very well fast, which can also be a detriment to me getting booked, and other people don’t and knowing your body and how you react to things. You need to take the time to discover that for yourself as well, because just doing it, what everyone else is doing might not be the perfect solution for you.
[00:12:23] Oh, my gosh, absolutely. I mean, it was, it was a journey over the years, on cruise ships, I found what worked for me, but you and I both know from our time on cruise ships with what food is available, you know, you are really kind of limited on your very healthy choices. but what, what I ate. Then, you know, in my twenties, to stay really as healthy as I could on cruise ships and the workouts that finally really worked for me were a lot of body weight stuff, you know, P90X videos and sanity, the videos, stuff like that.
[00:12:55] And you know, now that my twenties are long gone, you know, it’s been a journey, take some time and do yoga and Pilates, and that didn’t really help with my body and, you know, changing. Eating once I was established in Vegas just to find the right diet where people are saying, eat this, not eat that. And it really is a journey to find what works for your body.
[00:13:15] And I, I would say, honestly, it’s only been the past couple of years that, I found, you know, lifting weights along with the body weight exercises, kind of from the beginning of my time on cruise ships and then, you know, different diets that I kind of go back and forth from here, which I wouldn’t necessarily say diets.
[00:13:32] It’s more of a lifestyle now that I live. You have to enjoy life a little bit here and there, but if you want to be in shape and ready to go, you also have to be a little bit stricter on yourself at times. So, it’s been a very long journey through life. I mean, honestly, where I have struggled and then, and then come out on top and struggled again and come out on top.
[00:13:53] And I think I’m probably not alone saying that I’ve gone through that as a performer that. There are quite a few out there that do. And it’s also because we’re just always doing exercise, you know, when your body is constantly doing that, you’ve got to change it up to shock it again and again. Yeah, totally.
[00:14:09] And I’d certainly agree that you are not alone in thinking this way. Yep. Let’s move on to this next section and to a time that I like to call your spotlight moment. That one moment in time you realized yes. I am going to be an entertainer for a living or maybe it was, yes, this is what I need to be doing in this industry.
[00:14:35] Tell us about that. I mean, gosh, I would honestly say the first time I stepped on stage as a kid, I felt like. This is where I live. This is where I need to be. This is, I mean, I am, I come alive. My heart is so happy. You know, being on stage and performing and having an audience be excited, like seeing the joy that you bring them is definitely.
[00:14:59] My number one favorite thing. I think, you know, cause I’ve done transitioning always through my career where I started strictly as actually I started at six flags as singer dancer then was a dancer. I’ve kind of always gone back and forth between singing and dancing. but you know, It’s just kind of always been for me as a kid that just when I’m onstage, you know, recitals at the end of each year were the thing I look forward to the most.
[00:15:25] It was like what I just live for. So I feel like that’s the moment where I just felt like I have, I need to do that. I need to pursue this. And also, another moment would be in college because my parents were very against me going to school for a performing arts degree. you know, as traditional, quite a few parents are, they want you to have a backup plan and they think that you can’t make a living as a performer.
[00:15:51] And I actually went to school for public relations, which has served me well, for a lot of my speaking engagements and some other jobs that I’ve done on the side, I’ve done some staffing. And so having, you know, a background knowledge of a lot of, writing and invoicing and contract writing has been really helpful.
[00:16:07] But in college, I just remember like the whole time being like, I’m, I’m here to get this for my parents. I don’t feel like I’m doing it for me. And I just couldn’t wait to graduate and start auditioning for performing jobs. That was so that’s another time in my life where I just felt kind of very in the wrong place, but just going with the motions, knowing it, wasn’t where I was supposed to be.
[00:16:31] Yeah, for sure. And. Let’s piggyback on that question. And let’s talk about your number one, booked it moment. Walk us through that day, the auditions and call backs. If they happen to be a part of it, what was going on in your life? And what about that moment? Makes it your favorite book moment. Okay. so let’s see.
[00:16:56] What year was it? 2018 in the spring? I actually got to backup saying for Florida Georgia line and Dan and Shay. It was that moment onstage with both of them was like something I’ve never felt in my life, along with the rehearsals with them being in a tiny conference room at MGM and just singing with Dan and Shay to their guitar, was incredible.
[00:17:25] That was like, The highlight, highlight of my career where I was like, I don’t think anything else can top this, how I book that is actually, I just had a friend reach out to me and he said, okay, Hey, I have a few friends looking for a couple backup singers for a really big show. That’s coming to town.
[00:17:44]I’m not allowed to disclose the details to you, but, here’s her information. You should send her your singing real. And I was like, this is the most vague message I’ve ever gotten. And I think he actually even wrote me on Facebook. So I was like, okay, whatever, which, you know, we get gangs in every shape and form, you know, through every type of communication channel out there.
[00:18:08] But I was like, okay, whatever. So, yeah. I write his friend and I send my singing reel and headshot, and I’m like, I’m not sure what this is for. I, you know, but my friend told me I should submit this to you. And I was like, do you know the dates? Are there any details I can have? And she responded, I feel like it was within a couple hours and just said, I’m not allowed to disclose it to you because it is a celebrity, events.
[00:18:35] And so there’s all types of. You know, rules that we have to follow, but she said, I love your singing real. I love your headshots. You know, your dance reel is great. It shows me you can move. And so she said, you know, there’s an audition. It’s actually a call back for anyone that they like the reels, the following Saturday.
[00:18:52] So I had to go and we had to learn the song that we were singing with Florida, Georgia line. And perform it. and we performed it with four other people. We weren’t just by ourselves and they videoed us. So we did it over and over, but they were vetting videos each individually, and they were like, okay, you should hear.
[00:19:10] And you know, a little bit. And so I’m going, because I was singing a song by Florida, Georgia line. Does, does that mean that’s where I’m singing with, you know, but obviously they were like, we’ll let you know more details as you know. So I’m a couple days after that I got. an email and an offer was attached with a union contract, to be a backup singer for Florida, Georgia line for the HCMS.
[00:19:36]and that moved really fast because I got that email and I think they were 10 days away. So after that we only had two rehearsals. We had one on our own and then one the day before and, The day. So the Friday before, or sorry, the Saturday before, because the show was on a Sunday. I was, Friday, I was just kind of going over everything on my own and I got an, a separate email.
[00:20:02] From the same lady saying that, Dan and Shay had requested backup singers and she showed them who she had and they handpicked, eight of us to sing with them. Well, cause Florida, Georgia line actually was a bit more of a production. There was like 30 of us. So it was more of a choir. but that was another, like, I was like, I just thought I was doing Florida, Georgia line and Jay, and we weren’t allowed to say anything until the day of, and the only thing we could say was watched for me on the ACM, we weren’t allowed to say who we were singing for or anything.
[00:20:34] So, but it was just a really magical experience. I mean, to work with people on that high of a level, just. To see how successful they are, but also how professional they were. It was just seamless, start to finish. And it, it just was definitely. You know, moments that I will never forget in my life.
[00:20:53] Something special that no one can ever take away. I love that. That’s such a cool story from beginning to end. I love it. Well, let’s take a moment to talk about the present. What projects are you working on now? What are you looking forward to? And of course we are amidst this global pandemic. How do you see the entertainment industry moving forward in the next couple of years?
[00:21:17] Oh, wow. Well, at the moment, to be honest, I’m not working on anything. The majority of the clients that I spokesmodel for, their, the conventions have been canceled, until. 2021. I’m still waiting on two clients to hear from that. It’s possible. I will work for them, but at this point in time, I’m not really holding my breath.
[00:21:42] I’m just trying to be real. because of that, I actually, you know, started thinking. along the lines of where can my skills be best utilized if I were to search for a full time career. So I have, started applying for a couple of positions, mainly sales and business development roles. a couple of contract writing positions with different companies, because I have experience in that, but, obviously in the different sector than what they’re used to, I’m happy to say I’ve had, Two interviews with one company.
[00:22:14] So I’m waiting to hear a fall advanced to another and have another interview scheduled next week, but we’ll see, I know everything takes time to develop. So that’s, that’s where I am personally. as far as entertainment, you know, it’s really, really tough to say because I was hoping after phase one, that we’d be able to see something open again.
[00:22:39]You know, maybe Broadway or a couple shows here and there. And, you know, with Broadway’s recent announcement that they will not be doing shows until January 20, 21. a lot of the casinos I know have not opened up their entertainment, venues, their theaters. I know a lot of concerts that have been postponed until further notice.
[00:23:01] I really. Personally, don’t think that stuff is going to start up again until either mid twenties, 21 or 2022. And yeah, because of that, I really wonder, I see gigs coming back really full force. I see, you know, corporate entertainment coming back because. People love going to conventions and then going to a party, a themed party afterwards, seeing performers, taking pictures with Showgirls, all of that stuff that I think that will come back fairly normal.
[00:23:33] Once all of those events start coming back, I’m a bit more concerned on the show side of things for performers in Vegas. And kind of all over because theme parks right now don’t have entertainers, cruise ships, don’t aren’t sailing. They don’t have entertainers. And when they start sailing, you know, some of the fleets are only going to be sailing handful of ships at first.
[00:23:58] So, and you know, they may only be sailing with 50% capacity. So everything is a numbers game. To corporate America and people who are making these producers and, you know, making the decision, can they run the show with lower attendance, lower tickets purchased. I’m just, I’m interested to see where it goes.
[00:24:17] And I’m also saddened to see what’s happening right now, because obviously so many of my friends still live in Las Vegas and are performing and to see them hurting and not doing what they live there for what they moved there for, you know, to see that their shows are just closed until further notice.
[00:24:36] It’s, it’s gotta be such a tough time right now. Absolutely. Absolutely. I love your insight on that. And. It’s time to move on to one of my favorite sections of the interview. I call it the grease lightning round. I’m going to ask you a hand full of questions. I want you to answer them as quickly and concisely as possible one after another.
[00:25:02] Are you ready? I am. All right. What was the one thing holding you back from committing to a career as an entertainer money? Because of everything you’re always told entertainers don’t make any money. And then boy, was I wrong? You sure can. Second question. What is the best piece of advice you have ever received, to just be patient and keep going?
[00:25:28]I think someone told me a story about how they auditioned to be a singer in a show in Vegas, six times before they were hired. And then once they were hired, he worked there for, I think it was four years and they were just. Loved and adored, and then they got to leave on their own dime and continue to go be an incredible performer in multiple shows in Vegas.
[00:25:49] So, patience was a huge one. Great. And the third question, what is something that is working for you right now? Or if you’d like to go pre COVID, what was working for you before our industry went on? Pause. I would just say always following up with the agents that you have out there, the producers that, you know, that are, putting on events or small shows or traveling shows.
[00:26:16]I was someone that if I didn’t get booked for an event, you know, I would just say, thanks for considering me, you know, I’d send an email. Thanks for considering me. I hope you’ll consider me for the next tour or the next event. I definitely was someone who I followed up. Regularly too. And I mean, that’s how I feel like I worked as much as I did while I lived in Vegas is I was a big emailer.
[00:26:42] Yeah. I think that’s incredible advice for anybody listening out there because like we’ve discovered that sometimes you’re the perfect fit for the gig. Sometimes you’re not, and it has. Oftentimes nothing to do with your skill set, it’s something completely out of your control. So following up with people, there’s no harm in it because they’re booking lots of different events and gigs.
[00:27:03] Maybe the next one, you are the perfect fit and that’s the best way to stay front of mind with all of these different agencies. Well, yeah, and sometimes, you know, they love you, but they just, like you said, you weren’t the perfect fit for that gig. I mean, there are times I’ve been called into an audition for a show in Vegas as a singer three different times.
[00:27:20] And they kept saying, we really like you, but it was, you know, based on the other singers they had in the show. It needed to be the fit that would work for the show. So, you know, that always gave me confidence when I was feeling down to know that, okay. They still like me. They’re still thinking of me. It just means I’m not right right now.
[00:27:39] Exactly. I think that’s incredible advice for everyone to take away from this. And the fourth question, what is the best resource? Whether that’s a book, a movie, a YouTube video, a podcast, maybe a piece of technology that you found is helping your career right now. That is a tough one. I mean, I just really like to listen to self-development, audio books and podcasts and things that are inspirational.
[00:28:09] And I think that’s the best tool because it kind of, gets you out of your head and makes you listen to other people’s stories and perspectives. And, it just helps me remain positive. I am also a fan of the self development, personal development stuff that is out there. That’s I think it’s so important too.
[00:28:30] Have that content and to digest that content, because I mean, think about your own emotions throughout any given day. They go up, they go down there this way, that way all the time. So it really is quite impossible to stay motivated or inspired 100% of the time and having some really great content too, to refer to, and to get inspired by.
[00:28:53] Help reignite that, that spark and that energy that you know, you have, and you felt it maybe yesterday, but you’re lacking it today. So being able to tap into those resources can be incredibly helpful. Absolutely. I also would like to say that I find limiting the social media noise. Yeah. Is also very helpful.
[00:29:13] I find if you’re spinning a bit more time on social media and you’re like, Oh, they’re doing this show. I’m not, or they booked this. I didn’t, you know, you can, you can get in your head that way. Instead of just being excited and being like, Hey, they look great in that costume. You know? So I’m a big fan of really only looking at social media.
[00:29:32] At night before I go to bed, maybe one other time during the day, you know, if I’m specifically checking a group I’m in or something, I try to really limit that. And I find that that also helps keep me positive. I could not agree more. I in the last couple of years have also kind of made the detox, which on the social media front, and I’m still on social media a lot.
[00:29:53] I post loads and things like this, but I view it through the lens of. Productivity and business and marketing my skill sets and what I do and supporting those that, I mean, the people that are my friends are in my community. That’s where I focus my energy. Not the, not those rabbit holes that are so easy.
[00:30:11] Go down so easy. Just making yourself feel not good. Yep. Yep. I agree. And the fifth question. If you had to start your career from scratch, you still had all the knowledge and experience you’ve collected from your career in this industry. What would you do or not do? Would you do anything differently or would you keep it the same?
[00:30:35]I think some of the shows that I auditioned for, I wouldn’t put myself through those auditions. And again, they just, once now knowing that, you know, you know, where you’re a fit or not, like, as it goes back to your height, your hair, all of those things, rather than keep trying where you kind of feel like.
[00:30:55] I mean in a way you’re like a square peg going into a round hole, but you’re just going, no, I should be here. I really want this. I think, I would step back and look at things a bit more logically where it’s, it took a long time to be able to do that. I used to go to every audition and be like, well, it’s good.
[00:31:12] It’s a free class, but then I’d get upset when I wasn’t picked. And I was like, it’s not a free class. It’s still mentally. Challenging. So I think I would just slow down on that and really only go after the jobs that I really, really want or think I am a strong fit for love that. And the last question, what is the golden nugget knowledge drop you’ve learned from your successful career in the industry that you’d like to leave with?
[00:31:40] Our listeners always follow up, always say, thank you. And don’t be scared to follow up because. The number of times that I have followed up with people. also didn’t known that I’m searching for a different show. Connections are everything in this industry. And so, yeah, definitely, always being I’m connected to everyone saying your thank you’s and being grateful for every opportunity you have.
[00:32:10] Cause you never know which one is your last. Absolutely. I think that is incredible advice. And to wrap up this interview, it is time to give yourself a plug. Where can we find you? How do our listeners connect with you? Is there anything you want to promote? if you want to connect with me on Facebook, it’s just Stephanie Hebert.
[00:32:33] You can search for me and I’d be happy to answer anyone’s questions. or talk about old photos, you know, old shows that I’ve done. Just anything in the entertainment, entertainment industry. They have questions with same with Instagram at it’s at the Stephie. And can you spell that quick? Yeah. Yes. It’s T H E S T E P H I E.
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