Will Rothhaar

@therealwillylamar

willylamar.com

EP 54: Will Rothhaar (autogenerated)

[00:00:00] Dane Reis: [00:00:00] okay. Let’s get started. I am excited to introduce my guest today. Will Roth. Are, are you ready for this? Will.

[00:00:08] Will Rothhaar: [00:00:08] Yes, I am. Hello everybody.

[00:00:10] Dane Reis: [00:00:10] Oh righty. Will has been acting since he was four years old. He has appeared in all of the CSI castle, grim 2018 Benji, which is currently on Netflix, battle Los Angeles  and as Lee Harvey Oswald in national geographic channels, killing Kennedy, which was nominated for an Emmy, he has an album out on all streaming platforms called that. Good love under the stage name, Willie Lamar. He also has a side business as a life coach and body worker slash energy healer. Well, that is a quick intro of who you are and what you’ve done, but  why don’t you tell us a little bit more about yourself?

[00:00:50] Fill in the gaps, if you will, who you are, where you’re from. You’re currently calling home and a little bit more, but what you do as a professional in the entertainment industry.

[00:01:01]Will Rothhaar: [00:01:01] Um, yes. So, um, I’m  I, uh, was born in New York city. Um, I came from a family of actors, a book. My parents are, are professional actors that are, are still working and doing their thing. They’re also a directors and writers. Um, I moved to California when I was, uh, uh, six, six or seven years old. And we were kind of back and forth between New York and LA for a little while.

[00:01:24]Um, and yeah, uh, my parents got an agent out here and she met me and was like, I really want to represent him. Um, And my, my parents said, you know, okay, if he’s going to do this, there’s going to be some ground rules. Like he’s going to go to public school, his whole life. He’s going to have an education. Um, he’s not allowed to be a series regular till he’s almost out of high school or, or completely out of high school.

[00:01:45] Cause, uh, they didn’t just, they didn’t want me to grow up on a set. You know, they want me to have it. Uh, childhood and, uh, and they, they stuck to that. And, uh, and, um, I mean, my parents were pretty awesome, but that was one of the, one of the best things that they’ve ever done for me was, uh, making sure that I, you know, I was going out and scraping my knees up and climbing trees and,  got to be, I got to actually be a kid.

[00:02:04]Um, And, uh, yeah. And, uh, I, when I moved, yeah, I hear that my parents put me in an elementary school. That was a Spanish immersion program. Um, it’s a public school and so I K through fifth, uh, and then all the way through high school. Um, well, at least in elementary school, every subject all day from eight to three was only taught in Spanish.

[00:02:20] So that is my second language, even though I I’m not. Latino at all. Um, and that is actually afforded me a lot of really fun opportunities, uh, in the industry to go in and audition and actually get to play, um, some Spanish speaking roles, which, uh, has been awesome. And, um, yeah, and then I can continue just on the path of grinding and.

[00:02:43] Doing the doing the thing that we, we call acting and, um, you know, enjoying myself, experiencing all the ups and downs as well. Cause you know, we all know how crazy it can get. Sometimes you’re really hot and when you’re not, you’re really not. And, and it takes some, it takes some pivoting, uh, you know, but, but, uh, yeah, I would say as long as you’re having fun, uh, that’s kinda all that matters.

[00:03:02]Um, and then as I got older, uh, , the. Acting shifted into working on,  some of my own projects or co-directing with a couple of friends, uh, on some smaller projects. And, and I I’ve found a bit of a calling as well. Well, uh, coaching people, um, I have,  a lot of friends, a lot of close people who call me for, uh,  advice and, and my wife, it was like, why aren’t you charging for this?

[00:03:25] You know? So, um, but , uh, I get a lot from being of service to people. And, um, that’s one of the things that I find the most fulfilling. So, um, I decided that I wanted to also,  along with the acting, uh,  go into coaching and, uh, and body work and energy healing. So that’s kind of what, I’m, what I’m working on right now, as well as my other projects.

[00:03:43] So that’s a little bit more about me.

[00:03:45] Dane Reis: [00:03:45] Yeah, I love it. I  love your journey. I love your story. I love how your parents consciously made the decision to keep you into a normal setting. Quote, unquote, I guess, uh, compared to the showbiz world, but always having your foot in the door. I love that and the Spanish stuff way. Cool. Uh, but let’s move on to this next section here and we’ll look, I am a sucker for a good quote.

[00:04:10] What is your favorite quote? You’d like to share with everybody?

[00:04:14]Will Rothhaar: [00:04:14] Ooh. Uh, my, my favorite quote that I, uh, that I tell people when I’m speaking with them or when I’m coaching, or just kind of try to live by, on my own as a be kind, be love. And, um, it’s really simple. Just, , don’t be a jerk. Uh, it’s pretty easy. Uh, I always say,  

[00:04:30] it takes a lot more muscles to frown than to smile. Right? So I saw a lot of time. I feel like it takes more effort and energy out of YouTube to, you know, be a, be a jerk, you know? And so it’s, it’s not that hard to be nice. And I think in the world that we’re living in, when everything is as crazy as it is, and we’re adapting to.

[00:04:49] You know, this new form of life, uh, it’s gonna benefit us all to just be a little, a little kinder to each other. I think

[00:04:56]the world needs more love right now. So yeah,

[00:04:59]Dane Reis: [00:04:59] Absolutely. I could not agree more,  especially like you said, with everything that is going on in the past four or five months in this country.  let’s take a moment now to move to this section and we’ll of course you are an entertainer, I’m an entertainer. And I think that you would agree that this industry can be one of the most subjective, brutally, honest, personally emotional industries, either of us have probably.

[00:05:26] Ever experienced and you know, as well as I, that in order to create and to have a successful career in this industry, like you’re having now, it takes a lot of dedication and hard work. And while, yeah, of course there is an outrageous amount of fun and excitement doing what we do. There are also our fair share of obstacles and challenges and failures that we are inevitably going to experience.

[00:05:50] And we’re going to have to move forward through if we want to continue doing this for our careers. So tell us what is one key challenge, obstacle or failure you’ve experienced in your career and how did you come out the other side better because of it.

[00:06:05]Will Rothhaar: [00:06:05] I actually had a thought, this is sort of a twofold question. A lot of people ask me what the hardest thing about being an actor is. And I always say, uh, I think the hardest thing. About being an actor is, is the, the, the two, two plus hours that you have to sit in your car on a Thursday, going to , read for, , uh, some producers that are just a really tired from the week and probably don’t want to.

[00:06:29] Necessarily be in a session. Um, but that’s their job and barren, you’re all in showing your stuff and doing your thing. I have a lot of fun at auditions, you know, but like that, if I’m thinking about like the work of, of this business, that’s, that’s kind of like the work when I get, when I get the job and I get to go play,  you get to travel, you get to meet a bunch of new people.

[00:06:48] You make a family, you get to bring to life a character that. You know, it may be completely you and it may, it’s a big stretch, but, you know, it’s, that’s the fun for me and that’s when I just get to go play. Um, but one of the biggest challenges that I’ve, I’ve found in the last, like probably six, seven years, um,  was when I got into my mid to late twenties, kind of after 26, uh, you know, your, your, your body changes your face evolves a little bit.

[00:07:15] And, um,   I’m 33 at the moment and I look pretty young for my age, um, which is like a, it can be a blessing and a curse because you, I, I got to a point where I would no longer be able to play like the high school kids. Um, and I could, I could. Still play some college, but  I wasn’t quite old enough looking to play the, um, , the dad or the lawyer or the detective, you know, quite quite that, um, that branch of age yet.

[00:07:44]Um, and another, another challenge that I’ve faced, which is, you know, it’s  not necessarily a challenge. It’s also just sort of like, uh, uh, come on, like, don’t pigeon hole me, let me get into some other things. But, you know, I. I, I, , I’ve spent a large portion of my career playing, uh, playing the bad guy.

[00:07:57] You know, I played it. I played back. I play the villain all the time. Um, you know, the, anything from the, the guy who, you know, kidnaps children and dogs to, the, your favorite white supremacists, you know, like, and it’s, you know, and I, and I did do, I mean, it’s, I have a look to me as well. I have tattoos but I, I cover them up when I go into, to read for things, 

[00:08:17]um, but, but yeah, so that, that’s a, that’s also been another challenge and, um, , but I’m hoping that, uh, once this, you know, everything from COVID sort of settles down and we have the chance to get back to work. Uh, um,  I might, I might have aged into myself just a little bit more so I can, I can get out and, uh, start, start kind of playing with the, the roles that I haven’t had a shot at yet.

[00:08:37] And, um, Yeah. And just, just work from there and see if a CFC, if I have any hitters.

[00:08:42] Dane Reis: [00:08:42] Yeah, absolutely. Um, I love that you brought up. The age thing, how you kind of age yourself out of different, different roles.  but you’re not, you’re kind of in this gap time, you’re not quite old enough. And that’s something that is throughout this entire industry, whether, whether it’s the film industry or the live theater industry, there are so many people that.

[00:09:02] Enter this world. And they might not even work for a decade really. I mean, they get some gigs in here and there, but they don’t come into the meat of their career until they’ve aged into themselves. And it’s one of those things that you have to know exists and to not get discouraged, that if you really want this and you are passionate about it, that your time will come.

[00:09:23] Will Rothhaar: [00:09:23] Totally. And, and, you know, it’s, it’s good to hear you say that too. Cause I,  I have that because I’ve been doing it for so long. I have that, um, That thing that happens when I don’t work for a while. And then, you know, my wife is not in my industry, but she is, she is my biggest fan. Um, and, and is, is constantly supportive even though , in the time that we’ve been together.

[00:09:42] Yeah. There’s since we got together, I really haven’t worked that much as an actor and it’s been, um, yeah, and it’s been, been rough and, uh, but, but she, you know, she’s, she’s really supportive, but  I’ve been doing it for so long that I look at, um,  I look at myself and I’m like, God, am I, am I just like  one of those kid actors, who’s now just a washed up 30 something and I’m kind of over the Hill career wise.

[00:10:04] And do I need to consider something else? And do I just let this go? And then, you know, something inevitably happens, university. Put something in front of me or whatever, they kind of slapped me in the face and goes, no, man, this is why you love to do this. You’re you are an artist and this is no matter what the highs and lows are.

[00:10:22] You’re, you’re always going to be, , uh, you’re that’s always going to be a huge part of you. So don’t, don’t allow yourself to just let it go. And then I also, you know, I’ll get a tidbit of fact or somebody will, when I’m talking to a friend about. Being discouraged or something, they go, well, you know, you know, Morgan Freeman didn’t book his really first big thing until he was almost 50 or Susan Surandon, was quite a little older too, you know?

[00:10:46] And it’s, and I look at these people who have had massive media careers, and a lot of them didn’t really hit until. They were, they were a bit older, and they, and they, thirties and forties, you know, and, and the other thing too is I have a lot of friends, uh, close people, you know, I, cause I grew up in the theater and.

[00:11:04] everybody that I was around, all my peers were much older than I was, you know? And so I grew up around a lot of adults and I keep a lot of company that are, six, seven, 10, 12, 20 years older than I am. And, uh, some of my friends that are, you know, when I was hitting, , 27 to 29 and I was in that weird age gap thing, um,  I had a lot of friends who were, who I consider, we consider each other equals, but there.

[00:11:29] Well, you know, 36 to 39 and they were just hitting, hitting, hitting, hitting everything. They were booking jobs just left and right. And I was like, what is going on? Like, why, why not? Like, why, why are they getting it? And I’m not. Cause that’s, you know, I, I support my peers for sure, but I was like, what’s the difference?

[00:11:46] And then, , my wife would have to be like, yo, they’re, they’re like seven to 10 years older than you are. And I, in that made sense and kind of put me at ease about it, you know? Cause it’s true, , and. The other thing too. I just think that if you, no matter what you do in your life, whether you’re an entertainer, an artist or, or, you know, a construction worker or a doctor, if you have a, if you have a love and a passion for anything that you do, um, and you have that perseverance and that hustle,  it’s just going to keep bouncing back around.

[00:12:14] I mean, even if the world went crazy,  belly up more so than it is now. And we were living off of campfires and, barbecued hotdogs, uh, you and I would still have it. We still have a job, you know, and attenders and still have a job because you can still get up and tell the story.

[00:12:30] You can still. You know, act and play and pull somebody up and, and do a monologue or whatever it is, you can still entertain people. You know? So even if our industry were to just tank and not,  make it anymore, God forbid that, but if it ever would have happened, we would still have something to do.

[00:12:46] we’d still be able to bring some, some joy to the hearts and minds of,  individuals who need a little bit of release from their, uh, their own,

[00:12:54] Dane Reis: [00:12:54] Absolutely. Absolutely. I love that. And I, that’s what I love so much about the arts and the entertainment industry is, is exactly that is that we, we are storytellers and we’re able to share all of this with everybody. That’s the best part. Well, let’s move on to a time that. I like to call your spotlight moment.

[00:13:16] That one moment in time you realized, yes, I am going to be an entertainer for a living or maybe it was, yes, this is what I need to be doing in the entertainment industry. 

[00:13:30] Will Rothhaar: [00:13:30] Sure. 

[00:13:32] Um, well, as I said,  both, both of my parents are actors and I grew up in a, my dad was the artistic director of a small theater in, um, South central Pennsylvania. And my mom was in all the shows, my, my dad, by the way, quick plug, my dad is, uh, a guy named Michael Rother. Uh, and you’ve seen him on a ton of things, uh, you know, from through the nineties and through now, uh, my mother is.

[00:13:50]Uh, Nancy Lenahan Charles and she plays old peg on the, on, um, young Sheldon. And she’s got a big recurrent role on that. She’s also done a bunch of films for Rob zombie, um, playing anything from,  a witch to a psychotic nurse. So, uh,  look for them as well. Cause they’re, they’re both be in this industry as well, but,

[00:14:07] um, 

[00:14:07] but yeah, my, um, you know, my, my playpen was set up in the orchestra pit during musical tech rehearsal.

[00:14:12] Like I. And as soon as I got old enough to walk around, I was hanging out with acronyms cigarette breaks out, back in the theater while they were, you know, doing changeover, , waiting for their entrance. And so it’s it’s so like I had a, I had a one more moment where I was like, this is, this is my, my thing.

[00:14:31] But my dad, back in the day, when we were leaving to come to LA, uh, he wrote a letter to kind of the whole theater company as like a partying, you know, Thank you. And, uh, he said, you know, will, will is already changing costumes four times a day and dying upstage. If he doesn’t become an actor, I’ll eat my equity card.

[00:14:49] And, uh, yeah. You know, and it’s, it’s true. Like I was always doing that. I was like, pop, dressed me up as this. I want to play this role. Right. And I want to do this, you know, and, and, um, And I always loved it. I think, I think a moment that might dad would say that he it’s when he knew that my heart was really in it.

[00:15:05]Um, I had been doing, uh, uh, uh, David Mann and it play at the Geffen Playhouse in Westwood, um, called the cryptogram when I was, uh, 11, 11 years old, turned 12. And, and if you know anything about David Mamet, he, you know, he’s, he’s an incredible writer, but also very.  complex in so far as where he wants pauses done and where words cut off and these things and the lens, which can be really instructed.

[00:15:26] But my dad, you know, grilled me and grilled me and grow me with this and worked with me for six weeks and got, got it down. And I’m so appreciated him, but appreciative of him for.  um, getting me there, uh, you know, as, as a young boy and he was sitting, he sat in the house for every single performance and he was there for me every time.

[00:15:42] But at the top of act two, I have this monologue that is. Like a page and a half long. And it’s, it’s this story, whatever am I, I’m sitting on the couch by myself and my mother is off stage in the kitchen and it’s a full house and the Geffin, I can’t remember how many seats they have. It’s a really, it’s a pretty big theater.

[00:16:02] And I was sitting out there and I got to this part where I had this line to my mom off stage and I said, it. And immediately I was, I was up, I would just want to, I blanked and I, and she said the line, which prompted the next one and I didn’t know it. And I didn’t know what show I was in and I’d never gone up before.

[00:16:18] And it was the most terrifying experience ever.   And I just repeated the last line and my mom came out and sat next to me and she was like, honey, I told you it was when he was in the war, whatever the line was. And immediately I was back and it felt, it felt like an hour to me, but it was, it was 10 seconds.

[00:16:34] It was it. And I got off stage and  I just like want straight to my dressing room. My mother had a quick change and I come off. It was like, I’m sorry. I’m so sorry. I’m so sorry. And I went back to my dressing room and I have had a while before I had to be on stage and I burst into tears and I just  I lost my, I lost my myself. I’m in the dressing room and my dad came back cause my dad was sitting in the house and when it happened, cause he knew my part so well, because we had worked together on it for so long and he will look and he goes, Oh my God, he, Nope, he just went up.

[00:17:09] So he left his house and he. Came back. And he, he didn’t say this to me till much later when I was a late teenager, but he goes, you know, we had, he told me that. So when he goes,  what, when I walked in that dressing room and I saw how you reacted to that, he was like, Oh, wow. Yeah. Oh, this is his thing.

[00:17:25] He’s really in it. This is, um, yeah, he’s, he’s an actor, 

[00:17:29] you know? Cause it meant, it meant so much to me. So yeah. Um, that was those two little, two little tidbit stories.

[00:17:35] Dane Reis: [00:17:35] Yeah, I love that story and, Oh my gosh, blanking on stage, whether that’s choreo line. Oh. And then when it’s live,

[00:17:44] I think everyone that’s been doing this for any length of time can relate it to that awful feeling.

[00:17:50] Will Rothhaar: [00:17:50] yeah, yeah. 100%. But you know, it’s like those moments don’t outweigh the, you know, the, the love that, the love that I have, and then I think we all have for this. I mean, the, the, the, for the heartbreak and the massive high points, I don’t, it never gets old, you know?

[00:18:04] Dane Reis: [00:18:04] totally. Well, let’s piggyback on that question and let’s talk about your number one, booked it moment. Walk us through that day, the auditions and call backs. If they happen to be a part of it, what was going on in your life? And what about that moment? Makes it your favorite? Booked it moment.

[00:18:24]Will Rothhaar: [00:18:24] I’m going to have to say that, uh, it was when I booked, um, the role of Lee Harvey Oswald in national geographic channels, killing Kennedy. I was 26 and, uh, single and just like in a very, um, I was in a really rough spot, like.  that pilot season. Um, , I had had like a, a, a good, a good amount of auditions.

[00:18:45] It was great, but I just wasn’t, I wasn’t hidden. And, um, I. Uh, I was at my dad’s house lunch one day. And that week in particular, like, luckily, thankfully I had like one audit, at least one audition a day, maybe two. So I had like seven or eight that week and I had to make it safe for, um, for killing Kennedy.

[00:19:05] And I, and I forgot that it was due that day and I’m eating lunch in my dad’s house. My manager’s assistant calls and she’s like, Hey, can you get this in today? And I was like, Oh, I was like, yeah, yes, absolutely. I got it. So I told my dad, , I really need your help. We made this tape. as best I could, I sent it off and I was like, okay, I’m glad I got that out.

[00:19:23] I’m probably not going to hear anything from that, but that’s all good. But I, um, but I really liked the project. And, uh, and so I didn’t hear anything for a while. And I was headed up to San Francisco to, um, go to my cousin’s wedding. And at the time I was super broke, I like was, you know, my mom was helping me out with like a hundred bucks here or there.

[00:19:41] Like it, it was, it was a really rough time. And. I, uh, I was in line waiting to board the plane or in the ticket line, going up to San Francisco. And, uh, my manager’s assistant calls and he’s like, Hey, can you send us the tape for Oswald again? Because, uh, casting really, really likes it, but they’d want to show it to the director.

[00:20:01] And for some reason they can’t find it. And I was like, yeah. And I found it, I pulled it up, send it through,  we transfer it. And then they, um, You know, I went to the wedding, had a great time, came back and my manager was like, hold tight. They there, they really, really like you. And I was like, okay. So it was like another week of waiting.

[00:20:19] So you hear the word, no call back. No nothing, but like I am. And one day I was at, I was just hanging out with my, my best friend, uh, , we just were kind of bumming around and I went and I went to the barbershop, I got my hair cut and like he, and I picked up some, some Mexican street corn, and we went back to his house and I was eaten on his porch.

[00:20:36] The sun was setting, it was a beautiful day and I get a text from a different agent in the office. Who’s not my point person. Who usually makes the call for you to, to tell you both. And he was just like, congratulations on Oswald man, way to go. And I was, I was like, huh. And he called me and was like, Oh my God.

[00:20:55] I think, I think your agent, like, just send it out on the email right before she left the office and then was going to call you on the way home. She was like, please, please act surprise when she calls you. I just messed that up. And I was like, man, the good news and good news is good news. For many words, That is great news.

[00:21:11] So it’s all good. Thank you so much.  he was like, don’t tell her, you called me. She goes, he just called you didn’t. I was like, yeah, but it’s all good. Or they don’t be mad at him. It’s fine. Um, but yeah. And then she’s like, okay, well you have three weeks to prep for this. The director wants to send you a bunch of material.

[00:21:26]Um, and there, there you go. And so I went to Richmond. This was actually kind of the coolest part. About this. Cause once I got that, I was just like, it was, again, it was I now I get to go play. Um, and I’m also just a history nerd. So I knew that I was going to have three weeks in Virginia to just sit down and I would go to a bar, I get a bite to eat and a beer and I would sit and grab my iPad and my books.

[00:21:49] And I would just go down the rabbit hole and learn everything that I could about this guy. And about the history of, of,  the time, um, And the events, but, um,  I did some costume fittings and some hair stuff and our hair tests and everything. And the lady comes out and she’s like, Hey, uh, the director wants to, wants to meet you.

[00:22:06] And I said, yeah, great. It was his office. I go in and I sit down well, and he’s, it’s a Nelson McCormick. He’s one of the finest people that I’ve, I’ve ever had the pleasure of working with. Um, and I sat down, he had his feet up on his desk and he goes, he’s like, Hey, And I was like, Hey. And he goes, um, listen, um, I don’t know if you remember me.

[00:22:24]Um, , and he flashes back to this time. He goes, I was the executive producer on a, on a show called touch, um, which was the show that keeps her Southern LinkedIn just after, um, Uh, just after 24. And he said, uh, you know, I don’t know if you remember me, but I came in and he was right. The first singing audition that I had, or I came in and yeah, I don’t like, I, I, I love auditioning, but  you know how it is sometimes you feel like you hit it and sometimes you don’t.

[00:22:49] And a lot of the times you don’t, but this was one of those times where I was like, Oh, I’m really, really happy with that. And he basically was like, I wasn’t an executive on that show. And you came in and murder this audition from me. I mean, you, you, you blew it the way I was really gunning for it. You and the network didn’t didn’t want.

[00:23:08] It. And I was really upset because you were my guy and he goes inside. So when I saw your tape for this,  I just straight upset. I don’t need to see anyone else. That’s my guy. And he’s like, I’ve been wanting to work with you since

[00:23:19] then. So another, so another piece of advice, another, another, another thing that I just want to say to everybody is you never, you never know who’s sitting in the room.

[00:23:29] You never know, like the kid who’s running the camera could be the head of Warner brothers next year. You never know. So when you go in. Put your best foot forward make, make your choice in your actions, in your intentions, know where you’re going in the scene, hustle hard. And I promise you that was, that was a year and a half prior, almost two years.

[00:23:50] It was prior that I had that audition. And just because I made that say, he remembered me from that one appointment that I had. And he was like, I like this kid. This is who I want because he did a good job for me. , I want him for my project. I don’t need to see anything else. So. you just never know.

[00:24:04] So just always, always go in with an open heart, with, uh, you know, lead with love and, and just do your thing. And, uh, and I promise you, it, it will always work out.

[00:24:14] Dane Reis: [00:24:14] Brilliant. Wonderful advice. Amazing story. Loved that. And on that movie in particular, 

[00:24:23] Will Rothhaar: [00:24:23] Well, thank you so much. I appreciate you watching.

[00:24:25] That means a lot, man. Thank you. 

[00:24:27] Dane Reis: [00:24:27] my pleasure and,  let’s move on and let’s take a moment to talk about the present. What projects are you working on now? What are you looking forward to? And look, it is a weird time and we are amidst this global pandemic.

[00:24:42] How do you see this entertainment industry moving forward in the next couple of years?

[00:24:48]Will Rothhaar: [00:24:48] Um, yeah, man. I mean, honestly I think that is a, that is a question we’ve all been all been battling. Um, I had, I had lunch with my, uh, my manager a few weeks ago, social distance, obviously. And, uh,  we were talking about it and, and I’ve heard that, , just the sort of way that everything is gonna operate now.

[00:25:07]Um, I think, well, I mean, certainly until we get a vaccine, I wouldn’t be surprised if, I mean, let’s be honest, the way that we exist now is going to be forever different. Even if we have a vaccine, like there’s, I don’t think there’s really a way that we can really go back to like all the way normal, the way that we, we used to be, 

[00:25:26] um, 

[00:25:26] is that as that is, but I feel like people are adapting well.

[00:25:29]Um, so. I think that what’s going to have to happen. And as they, when you book a job, you. Get flown out to wherever you’re going to shoot and they will quarantine, um, the core cat four, uh, four 40, uh, and then from then on, you will only, probably only be able to, to live, uh, you know, be in the same house with  the people that you’ve been corn seen with.

[00:25:53] And then they’ll probably quarantine support cast, uh, uh, separately. And there will probably be. They’ll try to keep the crossover. If, if they’re shooting, like say somebody from group B, uh, needs to do a scene with someone from group a, they’ll keep that like as minimal as possible, probably social distance and they’ll shoot it a certain way.

[00:26:12]Um, you know, and I think that’s probably the sets are going to be.  more skeleton probably. There’s not, you know, one person at a time will be allowed in the makeup and hair chair. Um, they’re just going to do everything to keep everything safe. There’s going to be a lot of probably an entire, , small team that disinfects everything as the day moves on.

[00:26:30]Uh, on a set, you know, and it’s, it’s, it’s so rough truth to wrap your head around because I, if anybody that is listening to this, that knows me, anybody that knows me know that I’m, I’m a, I’m a hugger. Like I love. I love hugs. I, uh, that’s who I am. Um, I, I try to spread love in any way that I can.  and I, when I meet people, I always ask, you know what I’m saying?

[00:26:54] Listen, I don’t want to make him comfortable, but I do hug people. Is that all right with you? You know, and so the one thing I’ve been missing during this time is his hugs, you know, and, and one of the things that I love about, , being on set is that comradery that closeness and, giving hugs to people and that’s not going to be a, not going to be a thing for a while anyway, um, Which kind of sucks, but yeah, the, the forward movement think, I think that that’s probably where it’s going to start and it’ll have to, um, it’ll have to build from there, um, in terms of what I’m working on right now, obviously, as we’ve been talking about, there’s a thing being cast, you know, they’re not much anyway.

[00:27:31]Um, and if it is, you know, I mean, I had, I had friends that. Just before all this happened, had, four projects lined up and they were flown out to start working and then immediately flown home and everything was postponed, you know? So. even the people that I know that are working, aren’t, aren’t able to work right now, which, which really, really sucks.

[00:27:49]Um, uh, so I mean, obviously I’m not, I’m not really there. I am. Um, I’m writing a couple of short films, um, at the moment and, uh, working with, uh, my buddy, uh, Mike King. Uh, who is an incredible artist on, uh, he’s going to direct it for me and, um, and shoot it. And, and, um, I’m also so developing and there’s, this sort of came out of something random that I did, but, um, uh, I’m starting to create a, a show for children, kind of like a little along, along the lines of, um, You know, kind of the format , of blues clues, but, um, but more kind of mr.

[00:28:22] Rogers, Z, 

[00:28:24] I don’t know if anybody remember Shrinky dinks, but Shrinky dinks were like these little pieces of plastic. You could, you know, plastic sheets, you could draw on, you throw them in the oven and they shrink to about a third of their size. So, uh,  I have a bunch of characters and, um, it’s basically about a giraffe named Tom who goes on adventures and he has various modes of transportation and he, um, he goes in and meets up with friends and,  each one of them has a little, uh, moral to, to teach them, you know, the episodes are only going to be about a minute and a half long, but, um, yeah, it’s, it’s just something that I’m working on right now.

[00:28:56] And it’s um, yeah, it’s, it’s, it’s been fun, a fun way to occupy my time. Um, And I’m also, um, I’m writing new music. Uh, I got a few new songs written and I’m in the process of getting in the studio and recording them, um, so that I can release them and maybe even try to shoot a couple of little social distance, um, music videos,

[00:29:14]Dane Reis: [00:29:14] Yeah, 

[00:29:15] Will Rothhaar: [00:29:15] get out there.

[00:29:15] Yeah. 

[00:29:17] So that’s that’s me at the moment.

[00:29:19] Dane Reis: [00:29:19] Well, when you officially launch. The, the children’s show and the small episodes. Let me know. So I can update the description in this episode, so someone can click through to it and go watch it wherever it is.

[00:29:33] Cool. 

[00:29:33] All right. Yeah, let’s move on to one of my favorite sections now, and I call it the grease lightening round. I am going to ask you a handful of questions. I want you to answer them as quickly and concisely as possible one after another. Are you ready?

[00:29:51]All right. First question. What was the one thing holding you back from committing to a career as an entertainer?

[00:29:59]Will Rothhaar: [00:29:59] Um,  my parents always gave me the choice, but it’s something that I always wanted to do. Um, and since doing it from a young age, um, that’s how it’s been, but it, as I get older, it’s always been, um, the. It always is the sheer uncertainty of, of the life that I’ve chosen, that we, that we choose as entertainers that’s.

[00:30:15] So can be so scary. And, uh, the one thing that makes me consider, uh, really want to do this anymore, um, sometimes it can be annoyingly, stressful, uh, the lack of control that we have over our careers, but, um, but it’s never really enough to deter me. So I kind of try to push that energy out and let it, let it go,

[00:30:32] uh, with, yeah.

[00:30:34] Dane Reis: [00:30:34] All right. Well, second question. What is the best piece of advice you have ever received?

[00:30:40]Will Rothhaar: [00:30:40] Um,  uh, when I was young, my father used to say to me, uh, you know what you’re responsible for when you work, uh, whether it’s a play or a TV show or movie or anything, you show up, know your lines, know your intention in the scene, plant your feet, say your words with truth. Hang up your costume. And above all, uh, from the extras to the executive producers and creators being nice, be respectful and be kind to everybody that you meet.

[00:31:05] Dane Reis: [00:31:05] Absolutely. It is so under appreciated by so many people, how much being nice will 

[00:31:12] Will Rothhaar: [00:31:12] Yeah. Uh, it’s just, you just meet exactly. Yeah. And you meet people that, that aren’t that way. And I’ve sometimes had to pull people aside and go look, man. Like, you know, we, we get to play, pretend and dress up for a living, don’t take yourself so seriously and be, be nice. Just be cool.

[00:31:27] Dane Reis: [00:31:27] Yeah, for sure. All right.  third question. 

[00:31:30] What is something that is working for you right now? Or if you’d like to go pre COVID, what was working for you before our industry went on? Pause.

[00:31:40]Will Rothhaar: [00:31:40] I honestly, it would be just kind of generally staying creative, uh, keeping, keeping my mind active, just letting, letting my thoughts run. Um, cause usually when I do that, that’s how, either songs happen or new ideas for,  a short or a little project or something, uh, come in, uh, 

[00:31:56] something that’s working for me really well right now, taking an amazing audition class on zoom. Uh, and it’s taught by a guy named Gregory Simmons. If you guys want to look him up, he is taking students. Um, and he’s an incredible, incredible a teacher and as a writer, a really, really amazing technique that he’s implemented that I’ve never really.

[00:32:15] A study before and it’s, it’s been helping me wrap my head around the way that I audition and the way that I, the energy that I bring into the room when I, when I go in and read. So I would highly recommend it.

[00:32:28] Dane Reis: [00:32:28] Brilliant. Fantastic resource. And I love that you mentioned, Hey, I’m, I’m working on staying creative. And I think so often us as professionals in this industry, forget that we are in control of our art and our creativity. it’s easy to get caught up in the fact that.  I only do art if someone’s paying me or if I’ve got a gig or I signed that contract, . You can still find that fulfillment within yourself and 

[00:32:53] Will Rothhaar: [00:32:53] A hundred percent. Yeah, for sure. And the other thing that I’m, that I’m learning now too, is,   um, so much of the time, we, we put all of this weight on the auditions are God, I gotta book this job and. You know, you stress out about that, which automatically makes people just not want to hire you.

[00:33:13] Cause you can, you know, people can smell the desperation when you walk into the room, you know, if you put all that pressure on yourself and it’s not healthy,  it’s, it’s stressing you out. You’re going to, you’re going to start going gray way too early, you know? Um, but uh,   we put all this weight on the decisions of other people.

[00:33:28]Um, and you know, frankly,  we’ve we’ve allowed that, you know, that’s, that’s our, I’m always big on taking responsibility for it, for my part in something, you know? And my, my part in that is, yeah, is that I’ve, I’ve allowed that I’ve allowed that to be the case, which doesn’t necessarily have to be that.

[00:33:44] So, you know, that being said, um, there’s something to be said for, uh,  for creating your own content, you know, and, and just sidestepping, the, the red tape, um, sometimes, and you know, you’re going to, you’re going to hit walls. You’re going to hit speed balls, but , this, this town is filled with people that are, are just looking for.

[00:34:00] The next, the next thing. And they’re open to reading scripts and they’re open to, talking about producing something and they might actually have the funds to make that happen. You know?  it’s like if you have a group of friends that you guys can talk about, these things like pull your resources and then, put something out there.

[00:34:15] I mean, that’s how so many of the, the, the teams that we now, watch at the Oscars were created by just them going well, you know, and I’m just going to make a movie. That’s what I’m going to do. And I don’t know how it’s going to happen. It might take me a couple of years, but I’m going to do it anyway, you know?

[00:34:31] Um,  so yeah, just create your own stuff.

[00:34:34] Dane Reis: [00:34:34] Love it. And the fourth question, what is the best resource? Whether that’s a book, a movie, a YouTube video, a podcast, maybe a piece of technology that you found is helping your career right now.

[00:34:47] Will Rothhaar: [00:34:47] Sure. Um, well, as I said, in terms of, uh, in terms of class, I think class is always a good resource. Um, I, I, throughout my life, my parents always kind of thought that, you know, especially as a, as a youngster, if you, if you go to. If you go to an acting class while your brain is still developing, uh, you know, you’re going to learn somebody else’s technique.

[00:35:07] And if you have any kind of natural ability, all at all in it. Um,  it might kind of mess up your, uh, it might kind of mess up your, your process that you’re just starting to create. So they never really put me in classes as a kid. Um, but as you get older,  you gotta, you gotta sharpen your tool set, 

[00:35:21] so, like I said, Uh, Gregory Sims acting class is amazing. And another fellow y’all should look up, um, is, uh, a dear friend of mine and incredible teacher. I’ve sent him a lot of students. His name is Brad greenquist. Um, and if you’ve ever seen pets of the original pet cemetery, he’s the guy that gets hit by the car.

[00:35:37] They keep showing up and kind of going, don’t go in that cemetery, you know? And, um, he works all the time, professional actor, really incredible person. So, um, um, yeah, uh, those two and, uh, and in terms of. Piece of technology. Honestly, the, the, um, I just picked up the iPhone 11 pro and shooting on that is, uh, is amazing.

[00:35:56] Especially with auditions, it’s got various light features that kind of pick things up and, and mold to whatever kind of light you have. So you don’t have to go out of your way to,  really light things, super, super well, cause it’ll adjust for you. Um, and it’s just a good little resource to have and a mini tripod.

[00:36:12] That’s it. 

[00:36:13] Dane Reis: [00:36:13] Yeah. Perfect. Love it. And the fifth question, if you had to start your career from scratch, but you still had all the knowledge and experience you’ve collected from your career in this industry, what would you do or not do? Would you do anything differently or would you keep it the same?

[00:36:32]Will Rothhaar: [00:36:32] I think I’d make some different choices. Um, when you’re a teenager, you know, you kind of just, you’re living your own, you’re living your own life, kind of doing your own thing. And it was a lot of adults around you that are going like, yo pay attention to this thing.

[00:36:44] Because later on down the road, this might, you know, shift in a different way. And you know, what you realize is you can, sometimes you listen to people and then sometimes you just, yeah, yeah. You know, whatever, like, I guess I got this, you know? And, uh, and I, yeah. And I’ve definitely made some, some choices, some mistakes that have shifted, uh, my, my career.

[00:37:06] Yeah. Certain ways that I would absolutely change. Um, I would just make a, yeah. It makes them smarter choices. I would also just say yes to more, um, you get a chance every moment of every day to, to turn things around in whatever direction you want to, um, and, and make, make things better for yourself. So, um,  now that I have this knowledge that, like, I just want to say yes to things, this is going up, like, you know, I.

[00:37:30] There was a period of time where I got, I got picky about it, the things that I was going in for. Cause like if I read some of the script or read a script and I didn’t vibe with it, or I didn’t like it, I just go, I think I’m gonna. I think I’m going to pass on this, um, even, even going in for it.

[00:37:44] Yeah. And, uh, and, and that’s, I think that’s fine, , when you get your career to a certain point, um,  and I definitely have been in positions where, like I did a couple projects that pushed me up to a little, a bit of a higher rung than what I was, and I. I, you know, I don’t want to say, I don’t want to say you get cocky, but you kind of do you get you’re like why I got this,  without being arrogant about it, you’re like, um, I think I can afford to say no to this when, I mean, let’s be honest.

[00:38:11] I just, I don’t know why you, I just want to play, I just want to go play and. Do  what I love to do, um, which is, which is this. And so, um, well, you know, now I is like, uh, you know, when I got into my thirties, I was like, I’m gonna, and just start looking at things a little differently.

[00:38:28] When I get a project script, if it’s like a small indie, small budget, maybe the dialogue isn’t all there, uh, whatever it is, I’m going to look at it and go, instead of reading,  50 pages or a hundred pages of, and being like, nah, I don’t like this. I’m gonna pass. I just, I look, I get it. And I go, hi, maybe like my heart’s not totally in this yet, but, um, but if I, if I did book this, what would I do to, to elevate this project?

[00:38:56] Like how could, how could I make this better and how can I be of service to this project? what skill set do I have that, which. Choices. What I make is this character that might elevate it and make it, make it a little bit better. And, and also, you know, I’ve had meetings with, uh, , directors and stuff who also maybe wrote a project and we talk about it.

[00:39:17] And there were a couple of things that I read before everything shut down that I, I read. And then was it something that maybe didn’t make a lot, like a project that didn’t make a lot of sense? Like it was kind of running itself in circles or whatever, and I’d sit down and like, so. Are you. And before I got the words out of my mouth, the writer director, which is if you’re like, Oh no, I I’m aware of where this group present an all out all.

[00:39:43] I want us to collaborate. I want, you know, if you have an idea, That’s going to push things in a different direction, or I do like, let’s talk about it and let’s work. Let’s work through it because I think we can make it awesome together, you know? And, um, and that’s, that’s the fun of it, you know, because I mean, I only things that you work on where, , you might even, you might have a script that is, is solid, solid.

[00:40:05] They’re not even, maybe they haven’t done a rewrite on it in a minute. And you’re on set that one day and everybody, both of you guys go, God, you know, something, isn’t something isn’t working. How can we change this to make it better? And, um, I just love when people aren’t married to their material, you know, and they’re just like, nah, I don’t care.

[00:40:22] Let’s let’s, let’s go play. Let’s play together. Cause that’s really all I want. Yeah, for sure.

[00:40:26] Dane Reis: [00:40:26] Love it. I love it. Incredible advice. And the last question, what is the golden nugget knowledge drop that you’ve learned from your successful career in this industry that you’d like to leave with our listeners?

[00:40:41]Will Rothhaar: [00:40:41] Um, I would say that, um, yeah, people, people aren’t looking for you to act a role anymore. Like they’re not going to cast will Rother as Charlie Chaplin. You know, they’re going to find a person that is, that. Quirk and that,  that kind of person, but when they’re, when they’re reading you, you audition for things they want to see you, you know, and, and we all have little tidbits and pieces of all of these characters that we go in for, in all of us, there’s you have something everywhere, um, uh, of, of different characters.

[00:41:13] And so just, just be yourself. Uh, and, and remember that if you, if you aren’t having fun, Something’s not working. Um, because,  as I said earlier, we get paid to play, pretend and dress up. So don’t take yourself so seriously and just have a good time and hustle hard for yourself and be kind to everybody.

[00:41:30] That’s it.

[00:41:32] Dane Reis: [00:41:32] Beautiful. I love all of that. And to wrap up this interview, it is time to give yourself a plug. Where can we find you? How do our listeners connect with you? Is there anything you want to promote?

[00:41:45]Will Rothhaar: [00:41:45] uh, yeah. Um, my, my Instagram is, is a it’s kind of fun and, um, I I’m post all kinds of different things. Uh, you can follow me on Instagram at the, at the real Willie Lamar. Um, and you can listen to my album. Not good love, uh, If you type in Willy Lamar on iTunes or Amazon or Spotify, any, anything, any of the platforms, um, up there, you can also check me out@willielamar.com, uh, that has the album streaming up there and a little bit of the history of how, how it came around and a little bit more about me.

[00:42:19]Um, so yeah, and also just listen for new music. Uh, that’ll be coming soon and, uh, and new, new, yeah. Information about his rap name, Tom, uh, to entertain your kids during quarantine. Um, cause I think they’ll, they’ll probably like it and, and also, uh,  uh, DME, on Instagram, if you’d like a zoom coaching session or, um, maybe when things calm down a bit, if you, if you need a, an energy healing session, So, uh, and thank you all for listening.

[00:42:41] I appreciate you.

[00:42:42] Dane Reis: [00:42:42] Beautiful. And for everyone listening, all the links to everything he just mentioned will be in the description of this episode will thank you so much for your time. It has been an 

[00:42:52] absolute pleasure. 

[00:42:53] Will Rothhaar: [00:42:53] It’s been such a pleasure, Dan, thank you so much.