EP 57: Renee Auciello (autogenerated)
[00:00:00] Dane Reis: [00:00:00] you booked it, episode 58.
[00:00:04] All right. Let’s get started. I am excited to introduce my guest today. Renee cello. Are you ready for this Renee?
[00:00:13] Renee Auciello: [00:00:13] Of course.
[00:00:14] Dane Reis: [00:00:14] All right. A highly skilled performer. Renee has danced professionally, both nationally and internationally for the last 10 years performing in. Performing in award winning production shows for one of the biggest cruise companies in the world and dancing at the sands casino in Macau, China. She is an enthusiastic and vibrant dancer slash singer.
[00:00:38] With extensive experience in big production shows, corporate floor shows and sporting events in a diverse range of styles. Renee, that is a. Quick intro of who you are, what you’ve done, but why don’t you tell us a little bit more about yourself? Fill in the gaps who you are, where you’re. From where you’re currently calling home and a little bit more about what you do as a professional in the entertainment industry.
[00:01:05] Renee Auciello: [00:01:05] Well, I’m currently living in Adelaide, which is where I grew up.
Um, so I started training in Adelaide. Australia. And then I moved to Sydney when I was 18 and I did a full time performing arts course. I’m at 85 international. Um, Then from there I worked, um, in Macau in China. And then I did a lot of corporate work, um, around, um, Adelaide.
[00:01:29]And then I finally got what I would call, I guess, my brake,
uh, working for carnival cruise lines for the last five years. Um, working in there. Production shows, which they call playlist production. So you have to sing and debts in their shows.
[00:01:42]Dane Reis: [00:01:42] Fantastic. And then let’s move on to the next section.
[00:01:52] They were quite where you’d like to share with our listener listeners.
[00:01:54]Renee Auciello: [00:01:54]
Um, so this one from Nelson Mandela kind of rings true to me. Uh, I never lose. I either win or learn.
[00:02:01]Dane Reis: [00:02:01] I love that I love.
[00:02:08] Have you woke you up? What do your day in your life?
[00:02:12]Renee Auciello: [00:02:12] Well, I guess this is the way I like to live my life.
Um, I feel like there are no regrets in trying and striving for the things you want. if. It’s not the right path for you. That’s okay. But you’ve explored every opportunity and are now in a position to make another decision with more perspective. Um, my dance teacher, Kim grant Taylor, ,
[00:02:30] What I was going to go to 85.
Um, said to me, you don’t want to be an old lady sitting on your porch saying, I wish I did that. Um, you have nothing to lose, so. I guess I kind of lived by her motto, but the Nelson Mandela, one kind of,
[00:02:45] he’s more iconic. So it’s the same principle,
um, about just go, you’ve got nothing to lose. So just go for it.
[00:02:52]Dane Reis: [00:02:52] Absolutely. I love that. And you’re right there. Right there. Much.
[00:03:00] experience. Our careers and you can. I can only be viewed as.
[00:03:08] as negative. Bye. Bye. Around and going, wow. Wrong. Makes them make something better out of this situation. That’s, that’s how we grow. That’s how we. Create or we’re in my life that really, really want.
[00:03:25]Renee Auciello: [00:03:25] Oh, definitely. I think from every. Disappointment,
um, everything that you thought that you wanted.
[00:03:32]There’s a reason why you didn’t get it and you actually learn so much from those failures almost more from the failures than you do from the success. Cause sometimes you don’t appreciate this success. Without the failures.
[00:03:44]Dane Reis: [00:03:44] Absolutely. Absolutely. You need the highs and the lows to get any kind of perspective. And let’s move on to this next section here and. Renee look, you are an entertainer. I am an entertainer. And I think that you’d agree that this industry can be one of the most subjective. Brutally honest, personally, emotional industries in existence.
[00:04:06] And, you know, as well as I, that in order to create and have a successful career in this industry, like you’re having now takes a lot of dedication and hard work. And while gap, of course, there is an outrageous amount of fun and excitement. Being an entertainer being on stage. There are also our fair share of obstacles, challenges, and failures. We are going to experience and we’re going to have to move forward through. So tell us what is one key challenge, obstacle or failure you’ve experienced in your career and how did you come out? The.
[00:04:41] And how did you come out the other side better because of it.
[00:04:44]Renee Auciello: [00:04:44] Well, yeah, definitely. The industry is very challenging and it definitely, makes you feel like it’s really quite personal because you’re doing something you’re so passionate about.
Um, I’d been flying into state auditioning for absolutely everything I’m getting through to the end of the audition, but never hearing anything back. Um, I had reached out to my contacts and mcCal regarding work as I’d heard that they were now doing everything in house. So this is between my Macau contract and then moving on to ships.
Um, I submitted a video to Macau and my friend and I were offered the job and I was super excited. I started planning my life. Um, And I asked the context in Macau that I had. uh, if it was all secure. So I could advise my employer back in Adelaide, um, to given my notice. And they said, yes, So I put in my notice the next day and I get an email.
Um, advising. That the creatives in Macau have decided to go with a more exotic looking red head for the position.
[00:05:40] , obviously I was devastated.
Uh, I had to ask for my job that, um, and I just spiraled into a really dark place because you start planning your life. And. Suddenly they say, Oh, we want someone who looks different and there’s nothing you can do about that. You can’t change the way you look.
[00:05:58]And I think I got into that really dark place. And it wasn’t necessarily because I didn’t get that particular job, but it was just the last straw around so much disappointment I’d experienced from the industry. And at that point, I really just gave up on dancing overseas.
Um, I really didn’t think it was going to happen for me. I found a new focus in Pilates.
[00:06:19]And I was just transitioning away from,
um, my office job into glottis and I get a phone call from Diane Keaton, offering me a contract with carnival cruise lines from an audition I had done one year previous.
[00:06:32]And in that moment, do you just. it’s. Kind of surreal because you’ve kind of made all these choices to change and then you get the one thing that you’ve been working so hard for. And it’s amazing, but you’re also like, Oh, is it actually what I want? And of course it was. That was exactly. What I wanted and I was going to go for it. And from there, I worked for the company for five years.
[00:06:55]And. Actually looking at it. If I was to be offered that McKell contract. I never would have had that opportunity with carnival cruise lines and actually the girl who they employed.
Um, in Macau, instead of me had been living in London, but was originally from Macau. And from that contract, she was able to build her life in Macau. They, with her family, um, become a part of the creative direction for the shows.
[00:07:20]So ultimately we both ended up where we were supposed to be.
[00:07:23]Dane Reis: [00:07:23] I love that that is such a good story. Yours and hers, how it all worked out. So well, I love that. And let’s move on to this section that I like to call your spotlight moment. That one moment in time you realized yes. I am going to be an entertainer for living or maybe it was yes. This is what I need to be doing as an entertainer. Tell us about that.
[00:07:52]Renee Auciello: [00:07:52] Well, to be honest, I never really had this particular moment. I think it’s because I various interests beyond performing. So I sometimes struggle to label myself as a performer.
Um, I mean, obviously that’s what I do, but. I dabble in so many different things. Um, so I guess. I just continued to seek joy, um, and things that bring me excitement, which is what performing has definitely brought to it to me in my life.
[00:08:18]Dane Reis: [00:08:18] I love that. And let’s piggyback on that and let’s talk about your number one book. That moment, walk us through that day, the audition and callbacks. If they happen to be a part of it, what was going on in your life? And what about that moment? Makes it your favorite? Booked it moment.
[00:08:39]Renee Auciello: [00:08:39] I would say getting my Macau contract,
uh, This was my first professional dance job. My agent had sent me to the audition and I remember it was a studio outside of the city. So I had to take two trains to get there. The choreography was hard hitting commercial, jazz. So I was completely in my element.
[00:08:56]It was so much fun to dance and I left feeling the audition so happy. I can’t remember if I got the phone call about the job the day. All of the audition or it was a couple of days after.
Um, but they offered, made. I said, Oh, We can give you a job in Macau. And I was just so excited to go to professional job. I had no idea where Macau was.
[00:09:17] I was just auditioning for a,
um, a production company that was actually a UK based. So they were looking for people for jobs in China and jobs on cruise ships and whole heap of different things. And when they said you have a job in Macau, I was like awesome. No idea where that was. And I remember telling my dad.
[00:09:34]about it on the phone and he thought I got a job dressing up as a cow. And I kept saying no Macau dad, it’s a place in China. Like.
Um, anyway, finally he realized where it was after a few, few Google searches. So
[00:09:51] Dane Reis: [00:09:51] I love that story. That’s so good. Very good. And let’s take a moment to talk about the present. What projects are you working on now? What are you looking forward to? And look, it is a weird time. We are amidst this global pandemic. How do you see the entertainment industry moving forward in the next couple of years?
[00:10:13]Renee Auciello: [00:10:13] Well, I’m actually taking a step away from performing.
Um, the arts will always be a part of my life, but I would like to take a more behind the scenes role. Uh, this year, I worked for Adelaide fringe for their honeypot program, where I liaise directly with arts industry delegates and artists to create networking opportunities for future touring and projects.
[00:10:30]I just found it so inspiring to be around creative and passionate people. And that’s what I want to continue to be around in whatever I’m doing. I think the industry will bounce back post COVID, it’ll be a really different climate, but I think there will be new creative outlets and opportunities that may not have existed otherwise.
[00:10:53]We will need to think beyond the conventional and start to create work for ourselves. I think when. I first started in the industry. It was all about contracts and there was so much dancing work going around. And as I’ve continued in the industry, that’s kind of disappeared. So I think it’s about being self sufficient and creating your own opportunities.
[00:11:15]Rather than relying on, on those contracts.
[00:11:18]Dane Reis: [00:11:18] I love that. I love your insight on that. And I think it’s also worth noting that. Oftentimes, like you said, there’s all these contracts and we get caught up in. Landing that contract landing, the gig, the job, whatever you wanna call it. But we in ourselves are so capable of fulfilling ourselves, artistically of creating amazing things and sharing them with the world. And, you know, seeing if.
[00:11:43] Other people enjoy it as well.
Uh, also love that you were talking about, it’s taking a step back from the performing aspect of it. And that is what I love about this entertainment industry and a big driver for why I even created this podcast in the first place. Is that. This industry has so much to offer you. Don’t just have to be on stage. You don’t just have to be a singer or just a dancer or being in a musical theater productions barriers.
[00:12:11]Everything you can imagine in this industry from lights, to the marketing of it, to the producing, to the directing. There’s so many parts of the industry that many of us, when we are doing our training, when we’re going out into the world, As a professional, we don’t even realize exist. But once you’re in that you start seeing it in the doors start opening and you can find so many other passions and fulfillments through this career. I love it.
[00:12:36]Renee Auciello: [00:12:36] Definitely. And I think that when you’re involved in it, you realize how transferable your skills are and how much you’ve learned by spending your entire life in a theater being in shows you learn about the sound, the lighting, . The floor, like the floor tech, you, you know, what all of those jobs entail and you know, what it takes to put on a good show, you know, what,
um, what draws people in what’s great about a performance, what works? What doesn’t you learn all these things on the job, and you have all these skills that you didn’t even realize.
[00:13:08]That you had once you start. looking at all the other things within the industry.
[00:13:13]Dane Reis: [00:13:13] Yeah, absolutely. And I’m, I’m glad you also brought that up, that you don’t really realize that you’re getting all these skills. And I think oftentimes us as professionals in this industry, If we’ve spent all of our time. On stage performing. And now we’re maybe looking for. Some kind of transition still within the same industry. We go, well, who am I to. Stage manage or be a light tech or a sound tech. I don’t know anything about that. And we really tend to downplay our own abilities and our own knowledge just because. We haven’t technically worked in , that particular field of this industry, but we have gathered so much information over our careers that. Oftentimes we’re one of the best people to have in those positions. So now we have a more, all encompassing view of how a production should be put together.
[00:14:02]Renee Auciello: [00:14:02] Definitely. I think.
[00:14:04]You can go into any, any field. And I think especially as performers, we are quick learners. And do you think about
[00:14:11] when you’re in a show and suddenly someone injures themselves in the middle of the show, you’re Ray blocking while the show’s going to troubleshooting? You’re quick thinkers. You’re on your feet. You learn fast. And those are all such incredible skills that you can transfer to any role. And as long as you’re ready to do the work, you could, you can pretty much do anything.
[00:14:32]Dane Reis: [00:14:32] I couldn’t agree more fantastic. And it is time to move to one of my favorite sections in the interview. I call it the grease lightening round. I am going to ask you a handful of questions. I want you to answer them as quickly and concisely as possible one after another. Are you ready?
[00:14:52] All right. First question. What was the one thing holding you back from committing to a career as an entertainer?
[00:14:59]Renee Auciello: [00:14:59] That I didn’t think I was good enough to,
[00:15:02] Dane Reis: [00:15:02] Great. Second question. What is the best piece of advice you have ever received?
[00:15:09]Renee Auciello: [00:15:09] It’s what my dance teacher said. Just not to live your life in regret.
[00:15:13]Dane Reis: [00:15:13] Love it. Third question. What is something that is working for you right now? Or if you’d like to go pre COVID, what was working for you before our industry went on? Pause.
[00:15:24]Renee Auciello: [00:15:24] Engaging with people that can see beyond society’s norms and challenge your perception. Just kind of thing around those sorts of people.
[00:15:34]Dane Reis: [00:15:34] Absolutely. And the fourth question, what is the best resource? Whether that is a book, a movie, a YouTube video, maybe a podcast, maybe a piece of technology that you found is helping your career right now.
[00:15:48]Renee Auciello: [00:15:48] I think being in the right head space is so important. So mindfulness, podcasts and books. Just to reflect on what you really want from your life.
[00:15:58]Dane Reis: [00:15:58] Absolutely. It’s so easy to get caught up in the game of it or the hustle of it and to lose track of why you’re doing it in the first place.
[00:16:06]Renee Auciello: [00:16:06] Yeah.
[00:16:07] Dane Reis: [00:16:07] And the fifth question. If you had to start your career from scratch, but you still had all the knowledge and experience you’ve collected from your career in this industry. What would you do or not do, would you do anything differently or would you keep it the same?
[00:16:25]Renee Auciello: [00:16:25] I think if I was a kid, I would. Do more ballet.
[00:16:30] I would be really dedicated to stretching and, technique because that’s your foundation for everything. And I think when I was younger, I just did the things that were fun.
Um, so I think having a more foundational technical base, cause it’s much easier when you’re younger to work on those things. And it’s harder to implement them as you get older.
[00:16:50]Dane Reis: [00:16:50] Absolutely. Absolutely. We have to, to the things that are unfortunately not fun. I mean, some people find their passion for ballet and that’s fantastic. I’m not one of those people.
Uh, but. I still love the art form. I love appreciating and going and watching it, but doing it with certainly from a place of foundational building. Not because it was.
[00:17:10]A particular passion of mine. Let’s say that.
[00:17:13] Renee Auciello: [00:17:13] Yes.
[00:17:14]Dane Reis: [00:17:14] And the last question. What is the golden nugget knowledge drop you’ve learned from your successful career that you’d like to leave with our listeners?
[00:17:23]Renee Auciello: [00:17:23] I think every single person that you come in contact with is important. You should never think that you’re better than anybody else. The person that does your registration, maybe the person that gives you the job, just because they’re sitting at the registration desk doesn’t mean that they’re not important or have a deciding factor. So just be kind to everybody.
[00:17:45]Dane Reis: [00:17:45] Absolutely so true and truth be known. Oftentimes that person monitoring the room that is checking you in for those auditions. Is the assistant director of the show. It’s crazy. So. Don’t ever discount people that is such great.
[00:18:00]advice. Well, Renee, it has been an absolute pleasure having you on. Thank you so much for joining me today.
[00:18:07]Renee Auciello: [00:18:07] Oh, thank you so much, Dan. Always a pleasure chatting with you.