EP 61: Kyle Seeley (autogenerated)
[00:00:00] Dane Reis: [00:00:00] you booked it, episode 61.
[00:00:05] All right. Let’s get started. I am excited to introduce my guest today. Kyle Seely, are you ready for this Kyle?
[00:00:13]Kyle Seeley: [00:00:13] I’m ready for this.
[00:00:15] Dane Reis: [00:00:15] right, man. Let’s do it. Kyle is a dancer and model and has traveled as far as Tokyo, Japan to dance in the show, endless shock and model for Japanese clothing line one, CC. he is also danced for artists, such as will Smith, Todrick hall, Zane Malik, Amara, and Niagara, and danced and choreographed for the YouTube sensation.
[00:00:37] Prince EA is video before you get married, which has 122 million views. Kyle that is a quick intro of who you are and what you done, but why don’t you tell us a little bit more about yourself, fill in the gaps, who you are, where you’re from, where you’re currently calling home and a little bit more about what you do as a professional in the entertainment industry.
[00:01:02]Kyle Seeley: [00:01:02] Thanks so much for the wonderful. And humbling introduction, race.
Um, , , I was originally born and raised in Maryland Prince George’s County, Maryland. Right outside of Washington, DC started training in, uh, Washington school of ballet and went to a performing arts high school Suitland high school. Performing arts. Uh, moved up to New York to train at the Alvin Ailey school for dance and Broadway dance center. Got an agent out there and was doing a lot of freelance work until I got into the. Las Vegas show the Valarie legendary Don Arden’s you believe? And I did there. I was in the coal closing cast there. And while I was there, I had gotten signed to an agency out of Los Angeles. So I figured. Why not go out to Los Angeles and give it a shot. Um, so I’ve been out here for about four, four and a half years. Uh, I’ve been doing some amazing things, like you just said. Um, and. You know, just really, basically trying to. Cement myself in this industry, in uh, the Los Angeles community in, in entertainment community.
[00:02:15] Dane Reis: [00:02:15] Fantastic. Well, let’s move on to the section and look, Kyle, I am a sucker for a good quote. What is your favorite quote? You’d like to share with everyone.
[00:02:26]Kyle Seeley: [00:02:26] My favorite quote actually is one from Alvin Ailey. It is to be who you are and to become what you are capable of is the only goal worth living.
[00:02:37] Dane Reis: [00:02:37] I love that quote. I’ve not heard that before, so good. Can you expand a little bit on how you’ve applied that to your life and your career?
[00:02:47]Kyle Seeley: [00:02:47] Absolutely.
Uh, so every day I say I wake up with a set purpose. And in that purpose, it’s just my intention for the day. What would I like to get done? Uh, if there are things that I feel like I’m lacking within myself within a certain parts of my life, my career. , my personal life. I usually try to tackle it head on to become the best version of myself, Pete, the most evolved person version of myself in all aspects. So I would definitely say that that’s really , what the quote means to me to become the best version come the most evolved version of yourself as a person.
[00:03:24] Dane Reis: [00:03:24] I love that. And I love that you said, you know, you wake up, I have an intention and I. And I take things and address things head on because it’s so easy to. put the most difficult things at the bottom of our list, because we just kind of, we like to procrastinate by nature is human beings. Right? So by saying, you know what, I’m going to do all this hard stuff. Right up front, because then everything just gets easier from there. And I love that you are consciously making that decision to take on the hard stuff, the difficult stuff first.
[00:03:57]Kyle Seeley: [00:03:57] I agree, because if you don’t do that, I mean, you know, the hard stuff is just going to get harder or the eat, the things that you put. In the back burner, they’re just going to get, they’re just going to accumulate over time and you have to deal with it eventually. So it’s like, why not deal with it right now?
[00:04:13] Dane Reis: [00:04:13] Yeah. ,
uh, when quite literally it isn’t in an inevitability that you’re going to have to be dealt with. Right.
[00:04:19] Kyle Seeley: [00:04:19] Exactly. I agree with you.
[00:04:21]Dane Reis: [00:04:21] All right. Well, let’s move on to this section and Kyle, of course you are an entertainer. I am an entertainer. And I think that you’d agree that this industry can be one of the most subjective, brutally, honest, personally, emotional industries, either of us have ever experienced. And you know, as well as I, that in order to create and to have a successful career in this industry, like your having now. Takes a lot of dedication and hard work. And while of course, yeah, there is an outrageous amount of fun and excitement doing what we do. There are also our fair share of obstacles, challenges, and failures. We are going to experience and we’re going to have to move forward through. So tell us what is one key challenge, obstacle or failure you’ve experienced in your career and how did you come out the other side better because of it.
[00:05:14]Kyle Seeley: [00:05:14] That’s really good question. Actually, it would probably be when I, the first time I ever auditioned for a talent agency. And this had to have been about like 10 years ago. I went to the audition I was living in New York. I did the audition. I got all the way to the end. Two weeks later, I got a call that I got an offer for them to rep for representation.
[00:05:38]Then two weeks later, after that, I got another call from the same agency and they said that they were reworking their department and they already had a couple of people that looked very similar to meet. So they wouldn’t be able to represent me. So I was on cloud nine and then as fast as I looked through cloud nine, I went down to the ground.
[00:05:59] Like. Yeah. And what, what that taught me was is that, , in the industry that we are where it can be very visual. It helped me develop a tough skin, knowing that. No matter what it is in what audition I go to, I can go and I can be the most amazing person in that room, technically in have everything together and do everything that is asked of me and still not get the job because of just the look. That I. So you really can’t or just the height that I am, and you really, it helps you develop a thick skin, which is very much needed in,
uh, in this industry. just like how you just said, um, it’s very grueling. It’s very challenging. I think the most challenging thing is because, When you’re looking at the visual side of yourself, these are all things that you can’t change. I can’t make myself taller. I can’t make myself a different race. I can’t make my hair a different color or whatever, or longer or shorter. So. It allows me to accept who I am as a person and as an individual and whatever job that I’m going to do. I was meant to, I. Meant to do it and it’s going to naturally come to me. , I feel like a lot of people tend to try and change their sales for the industry, but the energy at the industry, we are entertainers, the industry is made or they make money for us around us. Around the entertainment and people don’t realize that because they’re always trying to mold themselves. So I always feel like it’s very important to embrace in. Really get a strong idea of who you are and then let the industry see how the industry works for you as a person, as you in your own lane.
[00:07:48]Dane Reis: [00:07:48] Yeah, I love that. I love all your insight that has clearly simply come from all of your experience. All of those upsets, all of those wonderful moments as well. And you’re right. It’s, it’s such good knowledge that you’ve just given everybody that’s listening here because. That is an inevitability of this industry. It is so subjective and you do need to create and build that thick skin, but also. To try to keep it in perspective and not get discouraged because. You’re getting discouraged about the things that you can’t do anything about. And. You’re not doing yourself any favors by dwelling on those things.
[00:08:26]Kyle Seeley: [00:08:26] Yes. I totally agree with you. You know, in a lot of people beat themselves up and then they start, you know, you, you see, especially in Los Angeles, because everything is so visual and so predicated on. Literally how you look, There’s a lot of. Just self dysmorphia where, , people have these, eating disorders or body dysmorphia where like, okay, I want to get this done on my body. I want to get that done on. Body. And then when you look back at it, when you see all these changes and you look back at your original self and you realize like, I was actually really good, the way I looked.
[00:09:01] Dane Reis: [00:09:01] Yeah.
[00:09:02] Kyle Seeley: [00:09:02] You know,
[00:09:02] Dane Reis: [00:09:02] Absolutely. All right. Well, let’s move on to. A time that I like to call your spotlight moment. That one moment in time you realized, yes, I am going to be an entertainer for living or maybe it was, yes. This is what I need to be doing as an entertainer. And tell us about that.
[00:09:25]Kyle Seeley: [00:09:25] I would probably say when I was about 12 around, I just been dancing for maybe about six months and.
Um, the director, I loved his directs his name’s Jason Cook. he saw my potential and he was just like, you know, you really do have a light that shines on you when you dance. And there was a lead position and this boy already had it, but just for fun, I just kind of learned it and that would do it off to the side. And I remember it, the guy something happened with the guy, I want to say he had like a death in the family. So he couldn’t do it one weekend for one of our performances. And the director, mr. Cook, he was like, Kyle, do it. And I went in there. Mind you, I’m like right in the front with everybody, with everybody seeing me, you just see all the bright lights and everything. Like all of that whole thing that happens with stage fright. Like. Is really like a sink or swim moment. Cause it’s like, Everyone’s looking at you, lights are all on you everyday. And I just kind of put in my head where I was like, it’s funny. I do this WWJD wears like. Uh, what would Jesus do instead of what would Jesus do? I always say, what would Janet do and is like jam.
[00:10:38] I was just kind of like, who was like, she was one of my big influences,
um, to start dancing. So I was like, well, would you want to do? And it was like, Janet would show out. So I showed out and. You know, the crowd was really what really wowed everybody loved it. Um, And that was kind of when I realized I was like, yeah, This is what I need to be doing. And I just kind of never looked back.
[00:11:01] Dane Reis: [00:11:01] Oh, I love that story. That’s so good. And I want to piggyback on that and let’s talk about your number one. Booked it a moment. Walk us through that day, the auditions and call backs. If they happen to be a part of it, what was going on in your life? And what about that moment? Makes it your favorite? Booked it moment.
[00:11:25]Kyle Seeley: [00:11:25] Oh, wow. I would actually say that moment.
Um, They were doing auditions. This is actually when I was in Jubilee at Vegas, they were doing auditions for will Smith and Bomba stereo for the Latin Grammys. And I remember I was doing Jubilee in a lot of people at Jubilee. We were about to do two shows. later on that night, but I really wanted to go to this audition. I was like, Oh, this looks like an audition. Something I could do is like, you know, why not? So it was at the rock center for dance. Went to the audition, literally like the room was full with people forward dancers.
[00:12:02] And, the choreographer issues from LA, she came in there and I remember , she kept asking certain people to go and she would just like, you go, you go. And then when you went, she would either say, please stay. Or she would say, thank you very much. And I remember,
um, She kept skipping over me. So I comment, like I get in my mind where I’m like, okay, well they probably just don’t think I’m a good dancer. I’m going to show you. I get real weird about stuff like that. So then I was just waiting for her to finally say, and I was like one of the last people that she finally said go, and it was, you went and I was like, I’m going to let this combination hat she’s going to just, even if I’m not for the part, she’s going to know that I can dance. So I did it and she was like, all right. She was like, you stay.
[00:12:52], I was like, okay, that’s cool. But I always like, okay, you get past the first part. There’s so many levels to it. Especially with being a dancer as the one thing about it being a dancer, I feel like with actors and singers, they go in, they sing this song and they do their lines and they go on about their day, the dancers it’s like, no, we gotta still do it again. And then we got a freestyle and all that. So we had to still stay there and I was just like, all right, well, like, you know, add to continue to dance. And then, you know, they did this whole thing where like, Oh, okay, everybody take your shirts off. So then I took my shirt off. I still got to stay. And then it got down to like about six of us. And I remember thinking , regardless of whatever, this is a great moment. Like just knowing that like, Even if I was not going to book it. I was here with some pretty dope people that they were all great. And we all really just loved what we did. And, at the time I didn’t have an agency. So the next day I was actually heading towards Jubilee to my show. And I got a call and it was the quarry. I’m very, and she was like, you know, you need an agent, right. I was like, well, Oh, okay. She was like, yeah. So,
um, I can even put you in contact with MSA, Jesse or black talent agency in Los Angeles. Cause you do need an agent. Cause this is a union job. And I was like, wait a minute. So does that mean I booked it. She was like, uh, yeah, you will. I read at the top of my lungs. I think I called my dad. Um, my friend Joan is who was it? I think it was in the car with me. I told him that I booked it and he was screaming. He was so happy for me. And that was just such a great moment because I always put on my bucket list because you know, , Janet Jackson and Michael Jackson were two really big, like advocates for me in why I wanted to start dancing. they will do a lot of award shows. So I always wanted, I always wanted to do award shows. I was psych I really want to do an awards show. I wouldn’t really want to do an award show and this just so happened to happen. So I booked an award show. So it was a really, really big moment for me. And.
[00:14:59]Yeah, that was probably the moment where I was just like, wow, I don’t have , too many , moments where I’m like, you know, people are like, Oh, I want this. I want to do that. When. I don’t have too many of those, but that was one big thing that I did say I really would like to do. And I got to do that and I was just so incredibly excited, so incredibly thankful. And. You know, when we did it and just standing on that stage and right before we started to perform and seeing all those people out there, and we did Indians, oddly enough, we did it literally, like I was dancing literally right in front of , ,
um, data Pinkett Smith and all of kids like Willow and. You know, so it was really in Jayden, so it was really cool. It was a really out of body experience. And then my family got to see it and they were, I was in Vegas and they were all the way in between New York and LA and they. Took pictures of them seeing it. And that’s really what made me, because I had that moment where you’re like, Oh, this kind of, this is really, really a moment that kinda makes your, makes your career. Make sure you like, kinda like, look, mom, I made it.
[00:16:04] And now. my dads who seen me from like me telling him I want to dance. And I’m doing Janet Jackson dance moves in the basement in front of the TV. To that moment right there. It was just kind of like a wonderful experience. And I really, you know, it is funny cause I would actually, you know, right after that I took the bus home and I kind of cried cause I was just like, wow, like that’s a good moment. This is like, this is a good moment. It was like,
[00:16:34] It was a happy cry. It wasn’t like a sad cry.
[00:16:36] Dane Reis: [00:16:36] Yeah. I love that. And I’m assuming you’ve got an agent out of that as well.
[00:16:41] Kyle Seeley: [00:16:41] I did. That’s actually how I ended up moving to LA. I got,
um, the agent who represented me, I got signed to them and you know, it was more, the reason that made me want to move to LA, once the show ended up a fan of French Jubilee ended up finishing up.
[00:16:58] Dane Reis: [00:16:58] Yeah, fantastic. That is such a good story. it encompasses so much from. Your entire. Childhood growing up all the validation of everything that you’ve been working so hard for that giant box that you got to check. So good. I love that. I love that. Great story. Thank you for sharing. And let’s take a moment to talk about the present. What projects are you working on now? What are you looking forward to? And. Look, we are amidst this global pandemic. How do you see this industry moving forward in the next couple of years?
[00:17:35]Kyle Seeley: [00:17:35] Well, it’s funny that you mentioned that the pandemic actually have been when, like everything started kicking in. When I was in Tokyo on a job. So the same show, the show in the shock. I was doing that show. I’ve done it for a couple of years now. And I was out in Tokyo and then, you know, the show’s started getting canceled and I was like, okay. And then I started noticing that , you know, cause to Japan is literally right by China. So. It all hit Japan. Like, I think Japan was number three in the world for the number of cases. So they were just like, stay home. Don’t do anything, like go out only if you need to.
Um, I would definitely say it’s going to. Have to make the entertainment community a little bit more creative about what they do. Just because, you know, I feel like eventually we will come back to where everybody can be all in the same area, like in person, but it’s going to take awhile for people to feel fully safe. I think, I mean, me personally, I think it’s probably gonna take well into either 20, 21 or 2022 for people to actually, and I’m not talking about the performers I’m talking about. For the audience, the people who we are entertaining for them to feel comfortable with being in a big, large space, enclosed, please, uh, people, um, you know, everything’s not built like the Hollywood bowl, uh, where it’s like, okay, you know, they had. Hollywood bowl is set up outside. So, you know, that’s a little bit more relieving, you know, a lot of the theaters and a lot of like the concert, arenas and stuff like that. Those are all enclosed spaces with a large amount of people. Um, I think it’s really going to force the community to have to get creative because in what sucks is. Entertainers in my opinion are always the last on the essential list, because everyone’s like, well, we need this, we need that. And we need this. , but the thing is we do need entertainment. Because with all of this stress in the world. We need something to take our minds off of it. You know, entertainers. We are very essential. We in people don’t realize that because they just look at it as, Oh, we’re just going up there and singing and dancing and this and that. And we don’t really need that. Yes. A lot of people do because. This stress of today’s world, that the stress of the economy, the stress of what we’re in, you know, we need. You know, be neat entertainment. Every people need a relief is the reason why people hire entertainment. It’s the reason why people go to the ballet. Dubai people go to the theater. Why people go to concerts because it is. A way to get away from the hardships of life. And that is essential.
[00:20:20]Dane Reis: [00:20:20] Absolutely. I could not agree more. And hopefully. As time goes on, people start really properly realizing that and feel like they’re lacking in really noticed that they’re lacking in that escape from reality. And this is a tough time. This is probably one of the most stressful times that. Much of the world, has experienced,
um, on the whole, there’s obviously some places in the world that have. You don’t experience much, much worse things, and that’s really horrible, but. On a whole global scale. This is very, very intense time and stressful time. And I, I agree with you that having entertainment. Is essential to the wellbeing of. The world.
[00:21:03]All right. Well, let’s move on to one of my favorite sections in the interview. I call it the grease lightening round. I am going to ask you a handful of questions. I want you to answer them as quickly and concisely as possible one after another, or you ready?
[00:21:21] Kyle Seeley: [00:21:21] I am.
[00:21:22] Dane Reis: [00:21:22] All right. First question. What was the one thing holding you back from committing to a career as an entertainer?
[00:21:29]Kyle Seeley: [00:21:29] I can honestly say there was nothing. , , I knew that they were going to be hardships, but I kinda knew that that came with the joy of doing what I love to do.
[00:21:38] Dane Reis: [00:21:38] I love that. Second question. What is the best piece of advice you have ever received?
[00:21:45]Kyle Seeley: [00:21:45] I would say, create your own lane and don’t settle for anything.
[00:21:49]Dane Reis: [00:21:49] Perfect. Third question. What is something that is working for you right now? Or if you’d like to go pre COVID, what was working for you before our industry went on? Pause.
[00:22:01]Kyle Seeley: [00:22:01] I would say without a doubt,
uh, social media handles and just having a social media presence. Um, you know, I feel like social media is a way for you to create a narrative and create a lane. That, no one else has. Um, , it’s a double edged sword. There’s good things about it is not so good things about it, but the good thing about you can create your own story. If done, right? You can create your own story. You can create your own narrative and you can get that across to people who live in these, , other towns and they want to do what you’re doing. Cause you never really, you know, the good thing is you have, they have access to somebody who they can say, you know, this is exactly what I want to do in this person is doing it. And I always love. Going out. I always love like if someone messages me and I like, Hey, I think. I’m about coming out to LA. I just don’t know how to get started. Like I will literally sit myself down and take time out to kind of give them the. The kind of like the cliff notes of how to get started in LA or what they should do and what are some good ideas of what they can do.
[00:23:02]Dane Reis: [00:23:02] Yeah, that’s amazing. And that’s so wonderful that you are keen to do that. And for everyone listening, take note of that. If any of you out there are thinking about making that move to LA. Now, you know, someone to reach out to for sure.
[00:23:15] All right. And the fourth question, what is your best resource? Whether that’s a book, a movie, a YouTube video, a podcast, maybe a piece of technology that you have found is helping your career right now.
[00:23:30]Kyle Seeley: [00:23:30] I would say it’s probably one of my favorite books. It’s a book called the four agreements by Don Miguel Ruiz.
Uh, so the four agreements are be impeccable with your word. Do not take anything personally, do not make assumptions and always do your best. And those are the four agreements. I probably been reading it. I read it at least once a year, just to brush, just to kind of like refresh my brain on it and my mentality on it. And it helps me a lot with going through a lot of things in my career, especially with the whole don’t make assumptions. And don’t take anything personally and always do your best because as long as I’m always doing my best, I know that something great is going to be on the horizon. I will always have something.
[00:24:16] Dane Reis: [00:24:16] I love that. And I’ve not heard of that book before, and I love reading and I I’ll have to pick it up.
[00:24:22] Kyle Seeley: [00:24:22] Please do. It’s a wonderful book.
[00:24:23] Dane Reis: [00:24:23] Beautiful. And the fifth question. Youth, you had to start your career from scratch, but you still had all the knowledge and experience you’ve collected from your career in this industry. What would you do or not do, would you do anything differently or would you keep it the same?
[00:24:41]Kyle Seeley: [00:24:41] I think I would probably have. Left New York earlier, only because New York was my dad’s from New York.
Um, I have a lot of family in New York. So me going to New York wasn’t as big of a leap as it is for most people. It was kind of like natural for me because I spent so many summers up there and. Um, I think , my first big leap career-wise and just kind of getting out of my own was going to Vegas. And I saw just basically the mindset that I had had as a performer, um, as just an entertainer that I needed to have to have a consistent. Consistent work and just a consistent, I would say, consistent income. In general, um, doing what I love to do. So just like that hustle, I love the hustle that New York taught me, but I would say I would have left. A lot earlier to get out of my own comfort zone.
[00:25:39] Dane Reis: [00:25:39] Yeah. Great. I love that. You said that to, to get out of your own comfort zone because. That’s when I think we get the most growth out of our careers out of ourselves personally, is we have to, we gotta put ourselves on the edge, you know, and really continually push ourselves because that’s where the cool stuff happens.
[00:25:59] Kyle Seeley: [00:25:59] I agree.
[00:26:00]Dane Reis: [00:26:00] Absolutely. And the last question, what is the golden nugget knowledge drop you’ve learned from your successful career in this industry? You’d like to leave with everyone.
[00:26:12]Kyle Seeley: [00:26:12] I would say. you are where you are supposed to be.
[00:26:16]Dane Reis: [00:26:16] Absolutely. And try to live in the present, I think is also part of that, right.
[00:26:21] Kyle Seeley: [00:26:21] I agree. Yes. And then more so if you, you, you are, if you want to change that, Then you’re supposed to have that reflective moment to change it. If you need to, like, you’re where you’re supposed to be, because everything has meant to happen for a reason. there’s a thing called, it’s written.
[00:26:40] Meaning, everything’s already preconceived. It’s just, are you going to do the work to get to where you would like to be.
[00:26:46]Dane Reis: [00:26:46] Absolutely. And to wrap up this interview, Kyle, it is time to give yourself a plug. Where can we find you? How do our listeners connect with you? Is there anything you want to promote?
[00:27:00]Kyle Seeley: [00:27:00]
Um, uh, I’m currently waiting to hear back from another show, so there’s nothing to really promote. Um, but.
[00:27:06], I’m still in Los Angeles, still, always looking to connect and,
uh, work with somebody and just create some amazing art, uh, via modeling or dancing. If you can hit me up at grim CIM, G R I M C H I M on Instagram. That’s all one word.
[00:27:24] Or hit me up on Facebook.
Uh, same name Grimm, G R I M space C H I M.
[00:27:31] So yeah, that’s pretty much it.
[00:27:33] Dane Reis: [00:27:33] Fantastic. And for everyone listening out there, I have put the links to both of those social media handles in the description of this episode. Kyle. Thank you so much for joining me today. It has been a pleasure to speak with you.
[00:27:48]Kyle Seeley: [00:27:48] Thank you so much for Dane I’ve had such a blast.