EP 9: Ruby Lewis

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Interview Transcript (autogenerated)

Ruby Lewis

Dane: [00:00:00] You booked it. Episode nine, Hey, entertainers and performers of the world. I’m your host, Dane Reis, and welcome to you. Booked it. Where I chat with inspiring entertainers, seven days a week by digging into their journey. We’re going to discover everything you need to do to be a successful entertainer, you know?

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[00:01:22] Let’s do this. All right, let’s get started. I am excited to introduce my next guest today. It is Ruby Lewis. Are you ready for this Ruby? 

[00:01:35] Ruby: [00:01:35] Couldn’t be more ready. 

[00:01:36] Dane: [00:01:36] Fantastic. Ruby has made headlines in New York, LA Los Vegas, and across the country as a versatile singer actress and dancer. She started as Indigo in Cirque, du Soleil, premier Broadway show paramour, which led to features on Nightline AOL build and two Macy’s Thanksgiving day parade.

[00:01:57] Ruby adores taking on biographical roles, having played Betty Hutton and Peggy Lee in lights out Nat King Cole at the Geffen Playhouse, where she received the ovation nomination and Marilyn Monroe in Maryland. The new musical at Paris theater in Las Vegas. Backed by the Marilyn Monroe, the state. She was recently seen in love, actually live at the Wallace Annenberg in Beverly Hills and a slated to play.

[00:02:22] Karen in speed. The plow this fall at San Francisco’s 42nd street, moon Ruby became known for the role of Daisy in the critically acclaimed production of Baz Vegas. As a longstanding member of, for the record, national tours include gypsy, Greece, Jersey, boys, and we will rock you. Television credits include girl meets, world masters of sex.

[00:02:45] Heart of Dixie desperate Housewives entertainment tonight, and many others. She performs her own one woman show blue eyed soul across the country and is currently recording for freshmen album Ruby. That is a quick intro of who you are and what you’ve done, but why don’t you tell us a little bit more about yourself, fill in the gaps, who you are, where you’re from, where you’re currently calling home and a little bit more about what you do as a professional in the entertainment 

[00:03:13] Ruby: [00:03:13] industry.

[00:03:14] Sure. It’s, it’s fun as we, as we grow and as we build our bios, how they kind of expand and then, yeah, it’s fun to go back and think about doing all those things, man. I’m in Las Vegas now, but I was, raised in Kentucky in a small town and I started doing theater at a really young age. I was, I took dance very seriously.

[00:03:37] I competed in dance and, you know, It might’ve been because I was, I was good at it. Yeah. But, I just kept doing it and my family, they were all very supportive. So I went to college for performing arts at Western Kentucky university. Yep. The year I joined the program, it was the first year for the BFA program and performing arts in musical theater specifically.

[00:04:00] So that timed out really well. I spent my time there. And I just knew, you know, I went into college undeclared because it felt it didn’t feel like yep. The right decision, the responsible decision, we will say to, to get a degree in performing arts. But after, after I started having fun and I just didn’t give a crap.

[00:04:22] So anyway, I’ve got my BFA in performing arts and then I’ve really just been kind of doing it ever since I call it my touring twenties. I did four tours. And I ended up in Los Angeles for a time. Those were really formative years because I joined for the record company and I started honing in on my vocal performance as more of a cabaret or recording style artist, met some artists through, for the record that were so inspiring to me.

[00:04:50] And it’s just been, it’s been stepping stones the whole way and a lot of what I’ve done has attributed to the people who I’ve met along the way. And, you know, I’m still, still doing it. I still find it to be incredibly important too. Be on the stage. Yeah. To escape into other worlds. It’s like part of my spiritual makeup at this point.

[00:05:14] Dane: [00:05:14] Absolutely. Yeah. 

[00:05:15] Ruby: [00:05:15] My family are still supportive and  hometown of Shelbyville. Kentucky are so supportive and in a way I feel like I have to keep going for them. Okay. It’s been a really wonderful wild ride. 

[00:05:29] Dane: [00:05:29] Okay. That’s fantastic. And you know, I can, I can relate as far as going to university first off, because I ultimately ended up graduating from the Boston conservatory.

[00:05:38] But when I first started, I went to school, the university of Montana in Missoula, where I’m from. But when I started, I, I went in thinking I was going to be doing premed and music. I, I quickly learned that you actually can’t do both of them at the same time. The music and the arts were a newer thing in my life at the time.

[00:06:00] And I was just drawn to it and that’s what I ended up doing. And I’m so thankful that I did. 

[00:06:05] Ruby: [00:06:05] Wow. I had no idea. Yeah. Two very different avenues, I would say 

[00:06:10] Dane: [00:06:10] yes, very much. So 

[00:06:11] Ruby: [00:06:11] I was looking into, broadcast journalism, which is not it’s narrowly, you know, it’s still, you’re still speaking for people and you’re still in the spotlight, so to speak.

[00:06:21] So not quite as much of a departure, but 

[00:06:23] Dane: [00:06:23] yeah. Great. Well, let’s move on to the next section here. I am. Admittedly a sucker for a good quote. So what is your favorite quote that you’d like to share with our listeners? 

[00:06:36] Ruby: [00:06:36] I had to go through I list and it’s funny enough, back in the day when I was in college and Facebook was brand new part of building your profile was.

[00:06:49] Coming up with different quotes that you like. So I actually have to go back in the archives 

[00:06:53] Dane: [00:06:53] and I remember that 

[00:06:54] Ruby: [00:06:54] and refer to my early twenties self. What was I even early twenties? I don’t even know, maybe even still a teenager. And, I took a great deal of time compiling these quotes, but I still have one that resonates with me.

[00:07:06] And then I’m like, Oh man, I need that every day. And it’s a John Lennon quote and he says, life is what happens when you’re busy making other plans. And for me, especially now. yeah. Being joyous in the present moment, it’s a daily. I mean, it is just, I have to work on it every day. And I think that that quote really sums it up.

[00:07:30] You know, it’s like the richness of life. It’s not in the busy-ness, it’s in the stillness and, Aye really enjoyed making that take a bit, making that application, especially nowadays, you know, I’m not busy and I can’t beat myself up for that. 

[00:07:48] Dane: [00:07:48] Yeah, of course. I mean, we definitely find ourselves in a very unique situation now amongst all of this coronavirus pandemic, but I think, yeah, I am right with you.

[00:07:59] I agree that it is so difficult really to always. Stay present, stay in the moment. And that really is where that’s where the richness of life is. But there’s definitely that duality where know we have projects that exist in the future and we have to always be looking towards what’s next and the next project.

[00:08:20] But we have to, I guess, remind herself to no, that that’s just part of it. That really, the fun of it is. In the moment creating and getting to that end result. 

[00:08:31] Ruby: [00:08:31] Well, unfortunately I think I, my, I programmed my young brain to believe that the richness of life comes in the award ceremonies or, you know, the table reads or they’re all these things that I would consider big.

[00:08:45] Big life full of life moments 

[00:08:47] Dane: [00:08:47] and standing ovation moments, 

[00:08:48] Ruby: [00:08:48] the standing ovation moments. Exactly. And now I’m trying to, you know, take a hike and Mount Charleston and see something blooming and taking the second to look at it and appreciate it. And, and feeling that, feeling that joy that you would feel in a standing ovation in that moment as well.

[00:09:07] It’s really difficult, but. Otherwise when you’re, without those moments, man, you can really to get to a dark place. You can feel really empty. 

[00:09:15] Dane: [00:09:15] Absolutely. I agree.  well, let’s move on to the next section.  so Ruby, you’re an entertainer. Of course I’m an entertainer. And I think you’d agree that the entertainment industry is one of the most subjective, brutally, honest, personally emotional industries.

[00:09:35] Okay. Either of us know of, and you know, as well as I, that in order to create and to have a successful career in this industry, like you’re having now, it takes a lot of dedication and hard work. And while of course, yes, there is an outrageous amount of fun and excitement being an entertainer. There is also your fair share of obstacles and challenges and failures that were all inevitably going to experience and we’re going to have to move forward through.

[00:10:02] So tell us what is. One key challenge, obstacle or failure you’ve experienced in your career. And how did you come out the other side better because of it.  

[00:10:14] Ruby: [00:10:14] I have to say the reject, like umbrella rejection was my biggest challenge for a long time, because I am my own worst enemy and I would allow myself to be so affected by what I considered rejection, that it would have this trickle down effect.

[00:10:34] And I, negative thoughts would just flood in and it would infiltrate the rest of my life, my relationships, and even my ability to prepare for the next role or prepare for the next, you know, undertaking. And, God, I would, I would get myself so worked up, I cry and cry and cry and cry. I’d have to, you know, I cry until I threw up sort of thing.

[00:10:54] Now I’m thinking now I’m thinking, you know, for instance, I was really excited about this show, allegiance that with that that’s coming to Broadway. I had auditioned in LA, they flew me to New York for the callback. So I thought, wow, that’s pretty, that’s a coup if they’re going to, Hey, they must really want me there.

[00:11:13] I thought I had it in the bag and I was, you know, I mean, I was walking like cock of the walk and It didn’t go well, I had a. Weird tickle on my throat. You know, sometimes when you fly across the country, it can really mess with you. Okay. It’s inevitable, you know, you can catch a little cold or whatever.

[00:11:33] A jet lag can be pain in the butt anyway, and I did, I, I left as soon as I stepped out of the audition room, I started welling up and I’m like, hold it, hold, trying to hold it in. Until I reached the sidewalk, reached the pavement on eighth Avenue, as soon as I hit the pavement, just waterworks, just gushing.

[00:11:48] I mean, I couldn’t, it was, I was so devastated and I was young and now I’m realizing, you know, coping with that sort of thing in a. Healthy way is so important. Sometimes you don’t realize what’s that means or takes until you hit rock bottom, kind of like most things. And I feel like now I’ve overcome that challenge.

[00:12:09] You know, now I realize rejection is part of the game. If it’s not meant for me, it’s just not meant for me. And if I have, if I have bronchitis and I can’t do my best, it wasn’t meant for me, you know, and getting all worked up like that. Isn’t it helping anyone. So, yeah, that, that took me probably 10 years to get over that just extreme devastation every single time.

[00:12:34] I didn’t get the part. 

[00:12:35] Dane: [00:12:35] Yeah. I guess what I’m hearing, would you agree that it’s. It’s not really one thing that you’ve, you’ve had to do or adjust to two, learn how to deal with those upsets in the failures, but rather it’s just the maturity of it and experiencing it. And then that is what it helps you develop that ability to maybe see the bigger picture or to really come to terms with, you know, what, this is just not meant to meet meant for me this time.

[00:13:05] Ruby: [00:13:05] Yes. And I think growing up in this educational system where it was all pretty merit-based I really, you know, I had to have straight A’s. I had to yeah. Positive comments on all my work and that definitely bled into this career as well. Okay. Getting these, you know, being named the valedictorian would be getting the part sort of thing.

[00:13:27] Yeah. I realize now that’s just not a healthy way to learn. It’s not a healthy way. it’s not a reason, you know, you do the work because you enjoy doing the work. Not because someone’s going to tell you, you did a good job. 

[00:13:38] Dane: [00:13:38] Absolutely. 

[00:13:39] Ruby: [00:13:39] You get trains to really believe that 

[00:13:42] Dane: [00:13:42] for sure. And, but you know what I’m hearing also what everything you’re saying is also going back to what you said in the very beginning of the interview, when you’re saying, you know, I’m just going out and trying to live in the present back to that quote that you said.

[00:13:54] So it’s, I think everything is really. So Dan and his full circle for you  

[00:14:00] Ruby: [00:14:00] and finding the joy in just being in the game or finding the joy and just sharing your gift. It doesn’t always have to be all we all, I mean, obviously you want to make money doing this and you don’t want to always be struggling and always be wondering if you made the right decision, but it does help.

[00:14:18] And it’s funny how things start really flowing and coming your way when you you’re doing it out of pure joy. Yeah, 

[00:14:23] Dane: [00:14:23] absolutely. 

[00:14:25] Ruby: [00:14:25] Okay. 

[00:14:25] Dane: [00:14:25] All right. Well, let’s move on to the next section now to a time when I like to call your spotlight moment. That one moment in time you realized, yes, I am going to be and entertain it for a living or maybe it was, yes, this is what I need to be doing as an entertainer.

[00:14:44] Tell us about that. 

[00:14:46] Ruby: [00:14:46] It’s sounds modest. But I think when I was in New York doing paramour, When we finally had an audience, we opened ads. I hadn’t, for some reason, because the process was so involved and we rehearse for much longer than you normally rehearse for. Any show, because you know, all of the elements in a Cirque dysplasia require a lot more rehearsal.

[00:15:08] Of course, I hadn’t really thought about once we opened, I was just trying to make it through opening. I was so tired and we had done the cast album, but then we opened and then.

[00:15:22] So the first stage door kind of moment when there were a lot of kids out there. And I remember just, I had goosebumps all over my body and it was like, I knew this is why you’re doing this. You’re doing this for the future generation. You’re doing this to inspire and, just signing the playbills and everything.

[00:15:42] Oh my gosh. I couldn’t, I was on cloud nine. I thought I could do this for the rest of my life. Okay. Even on a small scale, even on a small scale, it doesn’t have to be Broadway, as long as you know, I know that the kids are watching and that kids know you can put your mind to something and you can do it.

[00:16:01] Dane: [00:16:01] Absolutely man. You gave me goosebumps on that story. That was great. 

[00:16:06] Ruby: [00:16:06] Yeah. That’s pretty cool. 

[00:16:07] Dane: [00:16:07] Yeah. Well, let’s piggyback on that and tell us about your number one, booked it moment. Walk us through that day, the audition, the callbacks. That was it. Part of it. What was going on in your life? And what about that moment?

[00:16:23] Makes it your favorite? 

[00:16:26] Ruby: [00:16:26] Sure in thinking about that. I think it’s funny because as we progress through the industry, we get a bit desensitized and, and I think even when I booked param or I kind of thought I was going to book it, but my reaction was compared to booking my very first tour that it doesn’t even compare.

[00:16:45] I think when I was a senior in college, I went to SCTC the Southeastern theater conference, big kind of cattle call where, you know, you’re looking for summer stock work, but there are a number of touring companies that are there. And I had been seen by Phoenix entertainment for gypsy, and they wanted me to fly to New York city for the callbacks.

[00:17:12] And this was a major first for me. Yeah. So my senior year of college, it was going to be over my 21st birthday as well. And I had my mom and my sister go with me. I was terrified. I had no idea what to expect. It was the old Chelsea studios. I was freaking, I was freaking out. Okay. Then I got the call that I got the part.

[00:17:33] And I remember I was in this little local Mexican restaurant in bowling, green, Kentucky with a couple of my friends. I got the call and I ran, I think I ran around the restaurant. I cried. We ordered a pitcher of Mark or Rita’s. I mean, it was like, You know, it was the most massive moment because aye. I convinced myself, I was convinced that I could do it.

[00:17:57] I could book it. I can do this. It didn’t matter. It was not, I didn’t know the difference between equity and non-equity. It was a non-equity bus and truck to her. I didn’t know the difference. All I knew is that I was going to be traveling the country. Being 

[00:18:08] Dane: [00:18:08] paid to perform, 

[00:18:09] Ruby: [00:18:09] being paid, to perform as dainty, June in gypsy, which had just come off Broadway with Bernadette Peters.

[00:18:14] I thought, Oh my gosh, it was the first tour after that Broadway show. And I was as close to Broadway as I’d ever been. And I haven’t felt that. Ecstatic over a role sense. I’m sure I will, but yeah, that, it was just, it was like, my hard work was paying off. Okay. I was going to be a player in the game. It was so exciting.

[00:18:36] Dane: [00:18:36] Yeah. What a payoff does he all, I mean, it takes years. It takes years of dedication and time and giving things up too, to do this career, you know, at that level. And. Yeah, I’m together for the first time. Yes. The validation of that. 

[00:18:50] Ruby: [00:18:50] Well, the fact that we were rehearsing, we were going to be rehearsing in New York city.

[00:18:54] The following October, it was New York city was always to me like Oz. It was just kind of this distant, beautiful shimmery thing that, hi, I wasn’t sure if I would even make it. So the fact that I was going to be there and be rehearsing there, I could not believe that my dreams were we’re unfolding. I love 

[00:19:14] Dane: [00:19:14] that.

[00:19:15] well, let’s take a moment now to talk about the present. What projects are you working on now? What are you looking forward to? And although we are being, you know, in the middle of this global pandemic, how do you see the entertainment industry moving forward in the next a couple of years? 

[00:19:33] Ruby: [00:19:33] Yeah, it’s been crazy that everything’s been put on hold and.

[00:19:37]all of the projects I had lined up this year have been postponed and, you know, there’s not really a timeline and okay. It definitely drove me to create some of my own content. So I kind of took to YouTube and tried to figure out what it, what it felt like to produce my own stuff. And what do I even have to say?

[00:19:56] Okay. That was really great and eye opening. And, I think that I could play the game if I needed to. I still prefer live theater though. I still prefer to have the audience right there. Yeah. but yeah, but the projects, you know, they are going to happen. I was in rehearsals for my first straight play as a professional actress, I thought, Oh my gosh, this is going to be such an amazing undertaking.

[00:20:18] And so validating doing a David Mamet play. In San Francisco and, Oh my gosh, I have never worked so hard. It was Mamet is just a crazy undertaking, especially if you haven’t really trained in Mamet. Right. So luckily I had the amazing director and co-stars, and we were really, Oh man, we were in the thick of it when everything shut down so that  it’s happening.

[00:20:43] And I cannot wait because Just, Putting myself in the position to where, you know, it was, it was really out of my comfort zone. For one, but also I was excited because Madonna, you know, she originated the role of Karen on Broadway and speed the plow. And I, I just felt like I was, Oh, I couldn’t believe that I was going to be doing this role that Madonna had played on Broadway, but so that’s going to happen and I’m staying sharp on the material because.

[00:21:08] Act two is all. It was all me. It was the longest bit of dialogue I have ever imagined taking on. So I’m staying sharp there. And then, the, the lights out Nat King Cole show that we did last year at the Geffen, we were due to workshop again in New York city. as you know, it’s gaining legs and we’re looking to bring it to the city either in an off Broadway arena or, Something, a city center immune or something like that.

[00:21:35] That’s still definitely, and, you know, going to happen at some point, which is great. And I think very timely right now. We need it. We need this piece of work. I mean, this writes out w was also life changing for me because it dealt with. Racism in such a way that singing and dancing and jazz hands and kicking us all find him dandy, but actually taking on Something like racism within piece of art, particularly in music, musical theater is so wonderful. I mean, I, I’ve never felt like I, I was doing something that mattered more. So I’m hoping that that has legs. And then the Teagan summer and Greg neighbors, who I worked with on Maryland have a new project.

[00:22:24] With Steve Aoki and I can’t delve too much into it, but it is happening and that’s been awesome because they’re writing it now and I get to be part of the process. And that to me is just, Oh, it’s so great to collaborate and to feel like you’re in it. And that you’re also, you’re inspiring them. They’re inspiring you.

[00:22:43] It’s just this wonderful. Thanks. So it’s, you know, the future is bright and, you know, aside from all that, I’m just working on my house. 

[00:22:53] Dane: [00:22:53] Yeah. I think home Depot is really enjoyed boost in business over the past combines 

[00:22:57] Ruby: [00:22:57] I’m there almost every day. Dane, I can’t believe I’ll get the wrong size drill bit or I’ll get the wrong.

[00:23:04] I’m not cut out for this. It’s definitely a major learning curve. 

[00:23:07] Dane: [00:23:07] Absolutely. I find buying home where it’s just kind of like a. Shopping for spices. When you’re cooking, you go buy $40 worth of spices, but you only need like 50 cents worth of spices. 

[00:23:16] Ruby: [00:23:16] Yes. That’s true. And they, man, that’d be, it that’d be an idea.

[00:23:21] Wouldn’t it like, Oh, I only need two of these little 

[00:23:23] Dane: [00:23:23] screws, not the whole box 

[00:23:25] Ruby: [00:23:25] bulk, bulk buying, home homewares. That’d be great. There we go. 

[00:23:29] Dane: [00:23:29] All right, well, let’s move on to one of my favorite sections in the interview. I call it the grease lightning round. I’m going to ask you a handful of questions. I want you to answer them as quickly and concisely as possible one after another.

[00:23:45] Are you ready? 

[00:23:46] Ruby: [00:23:46] I am ready. 

[00:23:48] Dane: [00:23:48] All right. First question. What was the one thing holding you back from committing to a career as an 

[00:23:54] Ruby: [00:23:54] entertainer fear and, this embedded notion that sensibility meant playing it safe. 

[00:24:02] Dane: [00:24:02] Right. And second question. What is the best piece of advice that you have ever received? 

[00:24:10]Ruby: [00:24:10] my grandmother said she looked me in the I’ll never forget.

[00:24:12] She bent down and looked me in the eye when I was concerned that I wasn’t gonna win petite miss dance of America, because I didn’t, I couldn’t do 62 days in a row barefoot. She said, I just was doing it with sweet little tap dance. She said, just to go out there and do your best.  something about that. The way she looked at me and the way she said it.

[00:24:31] Yeah. Do 

[00:24:32] Dane: [00:24:32] your best. 

[00:24:33] Ruby: [00:24:33] Yeah. Just go out there and do your best. 

[00:24:35] Dane: [00:24:35] Yeah. There’s so much to be said. So few words.  great. Well, third question. What is something that is working for you now? Or if you’d like to go pre COVID, what was working for you before our industry went on? Pause. 

[00:24:51] Ruby: [00:24:51] I have to say just harnessing and garnering relationships.

[00:24:56] That’s been, that’s been booking me more than anything. I 

[00:25:00] Dane: [00:25:00] could not agree 

[00:25:01] Ruby: [00:25:01] more. 

[00:25:03] Dane: [00:25:03] All right. Fourth question. What is the best resource? Whether that’s a book, a movie, a YouTube video podcast, technology hardware, software that you have found that is helping your career right now. 

[00:25:17]Ruby: [00:25:17] while it’s daunting, social media, I think has been good for me too, as an observer.

[00:25:21] I think I’m finding my research through my peers and I try my best to support all my fellow artists and all of their personal endeavors. And I’m always inspired and ignited. Bye. Their imaginations and their bravery. And particularly now I have this, my friend Daniel, J Watts. We did lights out in that King Cole together.

[00:25:43] He is brilliant. And he’s been so successful stage and screen, especially. The past couple of years, but he has found this platform he’s so brave and a true artist. and he’s using his platform to educate people, to inspire people. And I think just following my here’s an in growing up and Learning among my peers has been the best resource for me. 

[00:26:07] Dane: [00:26:07] Fantastic. I love that. . All right. Fifth question. This is one of my favorites. If you had to start your career from scratch, but still had all the knowledge and experience that you’ve collected from your career in the entertainment industry, what would you do or not?

[00:26:24] Do, did you do anything differently? The 

[00:26:26] Ruby: [00:26:26] same? I would be more driven. Two to join groups and to create my own art within those groups, with those people, rather than what I did, which was sitting around, waiting for the audition and then sitting around and waiting for the phone to ring and not feeling the, the void in between with my own stuff.

[00:26:56] I really regret that. I really regret just, I would take class, I would take dance classes here and there, but I spent a lot of time just kind of comparing myself to other people’s work rather than just getting in there and in 

[00:27:10] Dane: [00:27:10] your own 

[00:27:10] Ruby: [00:27:10] doing my own. Yeah. I really wish I had, 

[00:27:14] Dane: [00:27:14] yeah, I think, yeah. Hmm. I am. I would say I’m right there with you that it’s, it’s easy to get into sometimes just.

[00:27:25] The business side of things, where you want to just, you need to get to the, the next gig to support yourself, because once you make that decision to make this career, I mean, or what does the entertainment industry, a career there’s that switch in your head a little bit where, you know, this is how I make my living.

[00:27:39] I’m not just doing this because it’s fun anymore. There’s other elements to it. And that it’s easy to get away from. Why we do this in the first place. And that it really is about the fact that we’re artists and we create, and we, we have like this burning need to create something all the time, whatever that is.

[00:28:02] And it’s easy to get stuck on the show or the gig or whatever. We really have the opportunity to. Do you feel ourselves artistically  

[00:28:14] Ruby: [00:28:14] and you owe it to yourself early on to set yourself up with something that will, that will help to fill the void because yeah, even, you know, Jennifer Annison might have some times when she’s feeling like she’s not working, she’s not doing the work that fulfills her, or she’s not, you know, her numbers are down.

[00:28:32] I don’t know at any level. This career is going to have ups and downs. It’s going to happen periods of time in which you feel like you’re not doing enough for your board or you’re, you’re not being seen for who you are, whatever. So, yeah, I think it’s really important to set a foundation and to, I have something going on that you can also sink your teeth into.

[00:28:54] That’s not, you know, a new, a new musical or a new whatever, and yeah, I think that’s a kind thing to do for yourself. 

[00:29:04] Dane: [00:29:04] Yeah, absolutely. All right. The last question here, what is the golden nugget knowledge drop you I’ve learned from your successful career in the industry that you would like to leave with our listeners?

[00:29:18] Ruby: [00:29:18] I guess I would say, okay, we all have this, the capacity within us to do anything we want it’s. I mean, to me, that’s God. It’s like we have these beautiful bodies and these beautiful minds. And thankfully this world where we have the freedom to do what we want right now in this, the country that we live in this world that we live in.

[00:29:41]But it takes. It’s sometimes it’s a lot harder than you want it to be. Yeah. Sometimes it’s painful. It takes blood, sweat, tears. It takes perseverance. It takes persistence. Sometimes it takes 40 years. You don’t know how long it’s going to take. You don’t know how long it’s gonna take for you to feel like I’m now doing I’m I’m player in this game.

[00:30:02] Sometimes it takes luck. Okay. But. I don’t think any of it’s ever going to happen. I don’t think you’re going to Phil. Anything you wish to fulfill. If you don’t really spend time with yourself, getting to really know yourself and getting to really love yourself and yeah. That also takes patients and quiet and.

[00:30:24] It takes also not just not kind of jumping on the bandwagon, you know, and Oh, Kristin Chenoweth did this, so I’m going to do this and I’m going to sing everything like her. And I’m going to, you know, that doesn’t work because that’s for Krista GENEWIZ, that’s not for you. Yeah. Even, even in a lot of college university experiences, I think it’s like this mimic mimicry or this, well, this is how it’s always been done.

[00:30:46] So this is how you should do it. I don’t agree with that anymore. We all have our own, we carve our own paths. And if you’re willing, if you’re willing to, you know, sweat on your brow and you’re willing to dig in there it’ll happen. 

[00:31:00] Dane: [00:31:00] Yeah. And we have so many mediums now to connect with people it’s not, we’re not limited to Broadway or tours or.

[00:31:08] LA. Yeah, you can become a star through your phone, you know? 

[00:31:13] Ruby: [00:31:13] Yeah. And as a creative person, it’s also important to you to look inside yourself and realize what other gifts you have rather than, you know, other than, Oh, I can sing. I think that I’m pretty good at Graphic design. Somehow I started kind of doing that in college and I’m pretty good at it.

[00:31:30] And I’ve figured out a way to. Apply that to this career and you know, 

[00:31:34] Dane: [00:31:34] absolutely. 

[00:31:35] Ruby: [00:31:35] Yeah. It’s really interesting. It’s daunting at the same time, because there are only 24 hours in the day, but, that’s why you gotta be patient with yourself. Yeah.  

[00:31:46] Dane: [00:31:46] alright. Well, to wrap up this interview, It is time to give yourself a plug.

[00:31:51] Where can we find you? How do our listeners connect with you? Is there anything you want to promote? 

[00:31:55] Ruby: [00:31:55] Cool. Well, yeah, I guess as the year goes on, I always post on my Instagram about stuff that’s going on. So if you follow me at Ruby Lu LA That’s how you kind of stay in touch. also I’m, I’m really trying to get some subscribers on my YouTube channel.

[00:32:11] Bye. I think I shot 16 episodes of my COVID. week, whatever is what I ended up calling it. So if you head over to youtube.com/the Ruby Lu, you can catch up on all the episodes. It’s a short form variety show with just me and I, man, the camera and I wrote all of the material and it’s silly, but, I’m pretty proud of it.

[00:32:34] Dane: [00:32:34] Yeah. 

[00:32:35] Ruby: [00:32:35] Hopefully once, once I get some things done around the house, I’m going to pick it back up again and. Okay know. Yeah, because it was just so validating too the night before I’d write the whole thing the day I shoot it, I’d edit it and it would release it all in the same in 24 hours, I would Oh, wow.

[00:32:51] Release these day after day. so it was great. It was a great undertaking. I got tired, but 

[00:32:58] Dane: [00:32:58] I can imagine. 

[00:32:59] Ruby: [00:32:59] Yeah, but it’d be great if people would watch and comment and subscribe. 

[00:33:03] Dane: [00:33:03] Fantastic. Well, Ruby, thank you so much for joining us today and agreeing to this interview. It’s been fantastic having you.

[00:33:11] Ruby: [00:33:11] Thank you for thinking of me, Dane. Well, it was really nice to share my story.

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