Katie Murphy

@kgmurphy4
@pmtheagency

www.panteramurphytheagency.com 

EP 91: Katie Murphy

[00:00:00] Dane Reis: [00:00:00] you booked it, episode 91. 

[00:00:05] All right. Let’s get started. I am excited to introduce my guest today. Katie Murphy, are you ready for this Katie? 

[00:00:13]Katie Murphy: [00:00:13] Sure thing. 

[00:00:15] Dane Reis: [00:00:15] on Katie is a talent agent and partner at Pantera Murphy. The agency, she graduated from Nazareth college in Rochester with a bachelor of science in musical theater. Katie has been working with her business partner, Meg . For over eight years with her primary focus on musical theater in the office, but she also submits on TV, film and plays. Katie has had clients work on stranger things, mine, Hunter Poe’s law and order SVU blacklist, dear Evan Hansen, , little shop of horrors off Broadway, Phantom of the opera, a Latin and several other shows on Broadway, off Broadway and across the country in different tours and regional theaters. 

[00:00:57] Katie loves meeting talented new actors and helping them achieve their dreams. KT participates in different studios around the city doing showcases as well. Katie that is a quick intro of who you are and what you’ve done, but why don’t you tell us a little bit more about yourself? Fill in the gaps, who you are, and a little bit more about what you do as a professional in the entertainment industry. 

[00:01:23] Katie Murphy: [00:01:23] . So, um, I’m originally from Fairport New York, which is a cute, um, Little suburb of Rochester, New York, um, which you say Rochester so much better than I do. Um, we have like a flat, a nasal tone. Um, But my accent has gotten better now that I’m in the city. Uh, so yeah, I, um, Now I currently live in Brooklyn. I actually moved here the day after Broadway shut down, which was an adventure and a journey. Um, 

[00:01:47] I am a talent agent at Penn Tara Murphy, the agency. And what I love about our office is that it is just mechanized. So it’s two females. And normally in this industry, you find a lot of men, um, talent agents, which is great, but you know, Love some female empowerment. 

[00:02:04]Dane Reis: [00:02:04] For sure. And let’s move on to the section and Katie, look, I am a sucker for a good quote. What is your favorite quote? You’d like to share with everyone?

[00:02:16]Katie Murphy: [00:02:16] Yeah. So I, um, I don’t have a specific quote that I live day to day by. I’m a full believer in karma and she comes to collect. I think that, you know, truly whatever you do will directly affect someone else. Which I think is a super important thing to remember. To be true to the question. Um, Especially when I moved to the city, I always remembered this one. 

[00:02:38] And it’s, you’re braver than you believe stronger than you seem and smarter than you think from a good old classic Winnie the Pooh.

[00:02:46] Dane Reis: [00:02:46] Yeah. 

[00:02:49] love that. , you know, , that rings true so much throughout our entire lives. I mean, I think about roles that I’ve had to do or different situations that I’ve been thrown in, and I’m sure you. 

[00:03:00]Have the exact same experiences where you’re like, I don’t really know if I’m ready, but these people kind of think I do. I don’t know. Let’s just go 

[00:03:06] Katie Murphy: [00:03:06] Oh, yeah.

[00:03:07] Dane Reis: [00:03:07] you make it happen. And there you go, you did it and you succeed and you proved to yourself that you did have that entire skill set the whole time. 

[00:03:15]Katie Murphy: [00:03:15] For sure, for sure. 

[00:03:15]Absolutely. 

[00:03:17] Dane Reis: [00:03:17] All right. Well, let’s move on to this section and Katie look, of course you are an entertainment professional. I am an entertainment professional, and I think that you would agree that this industry can be one of the most subjective, brutally, honest, personally, emotional industries in existence. And you know, you know, as well as I, that in order to create and have a successful career in this industry, like you’re having now takes a A lot of dedication and hard work in wild. Yeah, sure. There is no rages amount of fun and excitement doing what we do. There are also our fair share of obstacles, challenges, and failures. We are going to experience and we are going to have to move forward through. So tell us what is one key challenge, obstacle or failure you’ve experienced in your career? 

[00:04:04] And how did you come out the other side better because of it. 

[00:04:08] Katie Murphy: [00:04:08] I mean . Everything you’ve said is so true. Which, you know, one of the reasons why I gave up performing on the stage was because of how vulnerable and emotional, you know, actors have to be on a day to day basis. Um, going into rooms are being onstage and then plus all the activity, you know, while you’re on stage, it’s just, it’s. 

[00:04:27] A lot, um, 

[00:04:28] You know, I think from my side, An obstacle, a The challenge. Um, is getting people into rooms obviously before COVID everybody was so busy. So many people want it to be seen for so many different projects and casting directors only get to call in so many people, because either producers have people that they want, or, you know, there’s not enough hours in the day. So. You know, a daily challenge would be pushing and pushing for an actor that you know, is so right for it. And either they do get called in eventually, or they don’t ever end up getting seen for the project. And that is just kind of a kicker. Um, For me, I had an actor. Well, we’re still working together, so, but the show closed. Um, he had been seen originally for book of Mormon. Oh a while ago. And they had recorded him and it just, you know, it was. Always a struggle once you’re on tape. You know, for them to see you in the room. Cause it’s like, Oh, well we’ve seen it before. It’s on tape. And it’s like, well, no, an actor grows over time. So, you know, it’s important in my opinion, to always. try to see an actor and. So I pushed and pushed and pushed and finally castings, like, all right, great. Well, we’ll just give him an in person appointment. I was like, OK, cool. Um, And sure enough, they were like, Oh yeah, like he’s really changed. And you know, we’re giving them a call back and I was like, okay, great. Um, and then he booked the job. He booked the tour and I was so excited because I’ve been working with this actor for. Seven years now. And it was like, finally, like, this was both on our bucket list for him to do. He wanted to be in the show. He’s so perfect for it. Um, and he was on the tour and up until obviously COVID, um, but that was. I have a lot of those kinds of stories because I think everybody does, but that for me, I was like, Oh yes, we accomplished it.

[00:06:22] Dane Reis: [00:06:22] Absolutely.

[00:06:24] I can only imagine what it’s like to be an agent because you’re on the front lines. It’s one thing for us as actors to be out there doing, doing the hustle, doing the audition grind and being seen in the callbacks. But that’s just us. That’s just our world. But you see that and you see that entire process.

[00:06:41]All day, every day with so many different people. I can imagine. It’s.

[00:06:46] It’s exciting. It’s emotional. It’s taxing. It’s everything for you. Is that right? 

[00:06:51]Katie Murphy: [00:06:51] Oh, absolutely. It’s a whirlwind of emotions from start to finish of the day, you know? And especially, we feel it too. Really, if somebody doesn’t book the job and it’s like, you know, between them and somebody else, it’s just, it’s almost, I mean, it’s really like also we didn’t get the job. Then you’ve got to cheer them. They act her up and it’s okay. There’s always next ones, but then it’s, you know, you’re also kind of bottling your emotions of like, okay, we’ll just move it on to the next, um, I always, whenever I have to do like a really hard call, hang up the phone and. They’re like, ah, Okay. Like just breathe it out and then like, keep it moving. 

[00:07:28] Dane Reis: [00:07:28] Wow. That’s crazy. And of course, like you said, you’re, so there are so many constraints in logistics purely that are . So far out of your control, even within this industry, we as actors have so many things that are out of our control when we go into that room, but just like us, you have your own constraints that. Are dictated by the casting agents or the, or the directors or the producers of the show. That’s, I mean, it’s something that I think a lot of people just don’t ever really conceptualize because it’s not really part of our world, you know, as, as the talent that’s going into the room, but your end of the table is just as crazy and has just as many. Uncontrollable factors as ours. 

[00:08:04]Katie Murphy: [00:08:04] Yeah, absolutely. It’s funny. My roommate is not in the industry at all anymore. And you know, he went to school for musical theater and then he stopped. And so, especially if it’s like showcase season or musical season, you know, we have all those seasons pre COVID. And I’ll like work until 10 30 at night on my computer. And he’s like, are you still working? I’m like, yeah. We’re still going. I got to send us push email. He’s just, he laughs all the time. He’s like, Oh my God. You’re not some like, well, I don’t know. It. That’s what we all do, you know? 

[00:08:34] Dane Reis: [00:08:34] Absolutely. Absolutely. Well, let’s move on to a time that I like to call your spotlight moment. That one moment in time you realized, . Yes. I am going to be an entertainer for a living or maybe it was, yes, this is what I need to be doing in the entertainment industry. Tell us about that. 

[00:08:58]Katie Murphy: [00:08:58] Yeah. So I growing up. Was always around theater. Um, And. I always knew that I was going to do something in theater. And for a long time, I thought, okay, I’m going to be a performer. Um, my mom really likes to joke that when I was like three or four, they were doing either, bye bye birdie or little shop. And one of the actors forget their lines. And then I started to recite the whole show because like that’s what a little nerdlings Broadway kid. I was, um, they were always involved in community theater. Cause my dad plays piano. And so I never knew life outside of it. Like I never thought, Oh, I’m going to be a teacher or a doctor or lawyer. Like, it was always like, Oh no, well theater, like everybody’s involved in theater. I’m also going to be involved in theater. Um, And, you know, growing up in Fairport, it’s such a sports town. Um, it’s very conservative and like on the playgrounds, I was performing sweet transvestite for Rocky horror. So I was just kind of an odd ball. Um, and then growing up, I, while I would be in like community theater shows your school shows, I always. Was nervous about being on stage. Like, I didn’t want people to look at me. And so then I thought, okay, I’ll go to college to do vocal performance and be an opera. And my parents were like, that’s bizarre, but whatever, go do it. Switch to musical theater. And always during like vocal juries, I’d be like, just don’t look at me. And my voice teacher was like, what are you doing? Like, why, why are you acting like this? And I’m like, I don’t like to be looked at because I feel like I’m being seen. And so a family friend suggested that I call Meg and was like, Oh, she’s, she’s an agent. You could get an internship. It’ll be fine. And so I had only ever seen entourage. That’s what I knew of an agent. So. I was like, okay, it’s going to be like Jeremy  office. And I just was very, I wasn’t nervous. And I was just like, well, whatever, like, let’s give this a shot. And I called Meg and she was like, yeah, you’re coming here for your showcase. Right. Like, why don’t I just set up a meeting with you? And I was like, okay. Um, And I met with her. And the meeting wasn’t even about the job. It was about life. And I think it was during, like, there was a tsunami in Japan or something. There was some sort of like, Horrible thing that was happening. And she had a client over in Japan and my dad was doing business with people in Japan. So we were talking about it and it was a 15 minute conversation and she was like, I like you you you’re moving here. And I was like, yeah, I’m moving here on June, on June 5th, which I just made up. And she was like, all right, great. So you’ll start June 7th. And I was like, okay. Um, Sure. So I told my parents I’m like, I got a movie. I was like, I gotta move. I have this I have no idea what I’m doing. Um, and within the first two weeks, Meg really let me be hands on. So she was like, this is, you know what? My clients sound like musically, what, you know, give me suggestions of what you think, what projects they’ll go into. And so we had worked on the wicked breakdown and it was for the second national tour. And she had just signed somebody and I had heard them saying, and I was like, yeah, I think she could do Glenda. And Meg was like, yeah, me too. Let’s put her in. Sure enough. She gets the understudy audition and then she books it. And I was like, this is the best feeling because I feel like I won. I feel like I just got like applause for doing a good job. And like this girl gets this and she could probably pay off all her student loans. And like, I’m a part of it, but I’m not performing. 

[00:12:35] So for me, I was like this. I like this part of it. I really liked the business side event. Um, and I get to be involved, you know, in theater without baring my soul to the world. Um, so that, I guess in the longest story was when I realized, yeah, I need to do this for a living. 

[00:12:54]Dane Reis: [00:12:54] I love that story and your journey. Like you said you started off. You know, performing and. In the playground to being on stage, all those things. And you had that journey discovered what works for you and what fits for you. Because I think so many of us that enter this industry. We enter, you know, on the performance side, it happens a lot and it’s not really our fit. And this industry is so huge and so diverse that a lot of people we just don’t know about it. We don’t know that hair and makeup really exist or costuming exists or that set design exists or direction or agents exist. There’s so many parts of this business that you can get into that can be. Just as, or even more fulfilling in your case for sure. You know, then being the person on stage. 

[00:13:43] And I love that. Hearing your story and just opening up that door to so many people and opening up the eyes that, Hey, this is an option. This is something that exists and is amazing for me. Maybe it’s perfect for you. 

[00:13:56]Katie Murphy: [00:13:56] Oh, yeah. I, you know, we had an intern a few years ago and now she’s working at a different agency, but she was very much like, Oh, I think I want to be backstage. I don’t know. And. and she was there with us for a summer and she’s like, I like this. And I was like, good. Like, I’m so glad, you know, that. You found something you want to do. So. It’s a really cool thing to still be in the theater world and not performing, um, And I hope that, you know, there’s more opportunities for people to experience that. 

[00:14:30]Dane Reis: [00:14:30] Yeah, absolutely. And I want to piggyback on that a bit. And let’s talk about your number one book. That moment. 

[00:14:39] Walk us through that day, what was going on in your life? And what about that moment? Makes it your favorite book? That moment? 

[00:14:49]Katie Murphy: [00:14:49] Yeah. Um, okay. So I have two of them if I can do to, uh, so the first one was. I was working two jobs. Um, I was being an agent and then, you know, doing the side hustle of paying off student loans and, you know, bills and whatnot. Um, 

[00:15:02] That we all go through. Uh, And this one actor who I love and adore and is immensely talented and makes me laugh. Um, He had just come from doing a show and you know, it, the show that he was doing wasn’t much pay and. I knew that he was doing two jobs. Um, And he was going for auditions for understudy role and the fandom tour. 

[00:15:29]And, you know, he’s you know, he’s getting callbacks. Like, I don’t know. I don’t know. You know,  so finally we get the call and it’s like,

[00:15:34]Okay.

[00:15:35] he’s booked it. And I was like, Oh my God, he’s going to give up. Both of his jobs is going to be awesome. It’s his first national tour. This is going to be life changing for him. And so I called him and he was on a bus and I could, there was like a lot of noise. And I was like, where, like, where are you? What’s going on? And he was like, I’m on my way to get a third job. And I was like, you are, and he was like, yeah, I was like, I need you to get off that bus. And he was like, why what’s wrong? And I was like, you just booked the national tour of Phantom. And he was like, 

[00:16:09] He’s like starting to like cry, but also like I gotta get off this bus. And I just was so happy because to work three jobs and live in this city, 

[00:16:20] Sounds like a nightmare. 

[00:16:22]You know, and I

[00:16:23] just, I knew that this was life changing for for

[00:16:25]him and he did it for four and a half years and he got, once the other rebel left, he became the Raul and he closed out the tour and I’ve seen him, Oh gosh, I mean, five or six times on the road. And. He was 

[00:16:38] brilliant and I just.  One of the best, um, booked at moments. And then the second one, um, 

[00:16:43] So a little like side fact, I do love like crystals and astrology, but I also love serial killers. 

[00:16:50] Um, I don’t know if that makes me a massive weirdo. I just, I think that their stories are so interesting. So when mine Hunter came out, loved it for a season. And then, you know, when I heard they was getting picked up for a second season, I was like, I gotta have somebody on the show. I have to have somebody on that show. I love the show. And so the breakdowns come out and. We see this character, Wayne Williams. And I was like, you know, This one actor that we wrap looks like him, but like 

[00:17:18] way thinner. I’m like, so, you know, maybe they’ll  like see the face and be like, 

[00:17:23] okay, 

[00:17:23] you know, this, this could happen. So he went in so many times so many self-tapes. Met with the direct all, you know, the whole team. I, I think like five or six times. It was a lot. And he booked it and it was like his first real big TV thing. And it was just so. so. 

[00:17:43] Cool

[00:17:44] because it was one of the shows that I love. It was him playing this really challenging role where, you know, he had to gain really, 

[00:17:53] truly change his body to play this role. And then he lost it all again, which I’m just so completely envious. 

[00:18:00]Um, of how somebody could do that, but it’s just, he’s

[00:18:03] Brilliant. 

[00:18:03] really

[00:18:04] brilliant.

[00:18:04] And he gives such empathy to the character in a way. I don’t know if. You know, the interwebs have, I’m assuming all I’ve seen mine Hunter and. 

[00:18:15]Um, but this one Character. 

[00:18:17] it’s like the whole thing is like, did

[00:18:19] he do it or did he not? And you are watching it. And you’re like, Oh my God, I really hope he didn’t just because he’s so. He plays the role so brilliantly, um, But 

[00:18:28] those are like my, really 

[00:18:28] to,  cool booked at moments. 

[00:18:31]Dane Reis: [00:18:31] Very cool. I, I love hearing your side of this industry so much and. 

[00:18:38]How exciting it is for you as an agent. I love how involved you are with all of your clients. And it’s just, it’s amazing to me. It’s the first time I’ve ever really had a conversation with an agent. And this is so great. I love hearing this. Thank you so 

[00:18:53] Katie Murphy: [00:18:53] Yeah. Yeah, of course. I mean, I, I like to think that our office, because we are small, um, and it’s

[00:18:58] Interesting.

[00:18:59] with us because, you know, I know, I come from very vocal background. I understand our actors, you know, vocal cords and their struggles and all that kind of stuff. 

[00:19:07] But 

[00:19:08] Meg used to be a director and her husband is a 

[00:19:10] world renown acting teacher. 

[00:19:12]Um, so 

[00:19:13] she really understands, you know, the actors and loves the downtown scene. And. So we really together have a very eclectic office and we really understand, you know, our actors. And it’s very much, I

[00:19:29] like to say a manager agent in one. So meaning we’re very hands on. Like if you need an acting coach, we can suggest a few people, you know, voice teachers. I can suggest some people. Even Ian teas. 

[00:19:42]Um, we know of two great ENT or headshot photographers. It’s

[00:19:45] Really.

[00:19:46] we want our actors to succeed and we want to really help guide them. To do that. You know, You know,  a career is really about longevity. 

[00:19:55]Dane Reis: [00:19:55] Absolutely. 

[00:19:56] Absolutely. I’m so glad you brought that up and said, look, it’s not about that one gig while you want that one gig is about the long term. This is about your career. It’s not worth destroying your instrument for one thing. It’s about doing it forever. 

[00:20:10]Katie Murphy: [00:20:10] Yeah. 

[00:20:11] 100%, 100%. And I’ve had a few of those conversations. I mean, pre COVID, but. Where I would say to it, you know, an actor. I, yeah, a few times I was like, I’m hearing the way that you’re speaking and it doesn’t sound normal. Like what’s going on. I think you should go see an ENT and sure enough, they were like, Oh 

[00:20:29] yeah, like I need to, like, I’m pushing a little bit too much. It’s a little bit hoarse, you know? What not it’s, uh, 

[00:20:34] It’s something that I think most actors go through and they’re like ashamed to talk about, you know, the vocal struggles. But I think the more times that people talk about it, like the more open and free it is, but 

[00:20:44] yeah, we’re very much 

[00:20:46] concerned for our actors, safety and health and whatnot. 

[00:20:50] Dane Reis: [00:20:50] Yeah, that’s so good. 

[00:20:52] And let’s move on and take a moment to talk about the present. What projects are you working on now? What are you looking forward to? And I mean, we’ve talked about it a little bit. We are amidst this crazy global pandemic. How do you see the entertainment industry moving forward in the next couple of years? 

[00:21:10]Katie Murphy: [00:21:10] Yeah. So, um, 

[00:21:11] You know, we have some actors who are doing a bunch of self-tapes. We have one who’s, you know, Uh, 

[00:21:16] Hopefully. 

[00:21:17] still, it 

[00:21:18] depends on COVID, but you know, we had like, NDA whole situation, um, signed on with that. But, 

[00:21:23]um,

[00:21:23] I’m

[00:21:23] really looking forward to the new work 

[00:21:26] that is 

[00:21:26] going to be coming out. I think, you know, we’ve had a lot of time. 

[00:21:30] To, you know, nurse, our creative. 

[00:21:33]Energy. And I’m 

[00:21:35] hoping, you

[00:21:36] know, people are really

[00:21:37] writing

[00:21:38] great stories.

[00:21:39] and just being really

[00:21:41] creative.

[00:21:42]Um, it’s

[00:21:42] funny, my cousin’s a writer out in LA for some TV shows and. You know, . My dad and her dad were talking about how she’s been like writing on her downtime. So I think that a lot of writers are doing that. So I think that’ll be really interesting. Um, I’m really looking forward to. And

[00:21:59]hoping that with the entertainment industry, that we’re going to get some new, exciting stories. There are going to be more opportunities for actors of all different shapes and sizes and genders and races. And.  know, 

[00:22:13] actors will 

[00:22:14] get a chance to be seen. Um,

[00:22:16] think it’s. Really great that everything’s happening online because I’m hoping that casting characters really have more time to see these actors and 

[00:22:24] Really. 

[00:22:25]You 

[00:22:25] know, meet new people. I think that that’s great.

[00:22:28]Um, just

[00:22:28] because before COVID it was always go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, Um, and I even at fault of it, it was like, 

[00:22:33] okay, I’ve got to get this done. I, it has to get done in the next hour. And. I think now it’s, everybody will appreciate what our job is and, you know, give it more time and opportunity. And. Maybe not be jaded. 

[00:22:48]You know, I think that people were getting. 

[00:22:51]A little jaded. 

[00:22:52]Um, 

[00:22:52] You know, actors, agents, you know, everybody in the industry. And I think now it’s like, Oh, I tell my friends and I tell some of my actors, I think that mother earth put us in timeout and gave us this pandemic of like, okay, be grateful for what you have. 

[00:23:06]um, so I’m hoping that. Uh, people will be more grateful and, you know, happier and hopeful and more, you know, I don’t know. 

[00:23:14] Dane Reis: [00:23:14] Yeah, I love it. I love all that insight. That’s really great. And I think. You’re right. We, before COVID everything was go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go. And everything was on a crazy time crunch. And. There are times when things have to be that hectic and busy. But I think a lot of times we just, we put that pressure on us when it doesn’t really need it.

[00:23:34] Thanks could be more relaxed and , you can still create the same end product in the same timeframe. 

[00:23:40]You know, but without all that added stress and the added panicking.

[00:23:43]Katie Murphy: [00:23:43] Yeah, for sure. 

[00:23:44]Dane Reis: [00:23:44] let’s move on to one of my favorite sections of the interview. I call it the grease lightening round. I am going to ask you a handful of questions. I want you to answer them as quickly and concisely as possible one after another. Are you ready?

[00:24:02]All right. First question. What was the one thing holding you back from committing to a career as an entertainer?

[00:24:09]Katie Murphy: [00:24:09] I don’t think anything.

[00:24:11]Dane Reis: [00:24:11] Great. And the second question, what is the best piece of advice you have ever received?

[00:24:18]Katie Murphy: [00:24:18] Oh, the best piece of advice I’ve ever received is for Meg. And it’s always to , take chances on young, um, actors. Uh, we have a guy who. Uh, had he were working with him and he had, um, not a lot of stuff on his resume and we were just both drawn to his headshot and Meg was like, You know, I bet he’s a phenomenal actor. We saw his work then after that and we called them in, we worked with them and he booked a guest star in law and order. As his, like first big booking, I was 

[00:24:45] like, what? 

[00:24:47]You know, and I would’ve, 

[00:24:48]you know, if

[00:24:48] she

[00:24:48] always is very much, you know, take know, take

[00:24:50] a chance on this actor, 

[00:24:51] always advocate for your actor. 

[00:24:53] And that is something

[00:24:56] that we always.

[00:24:57]you know, try to do. And that’s kind of one of our philosophies for sure. So that’s the best advice. 

[00:25:03] Dane Reis: [00:25:03] Yeah. I love that. And the third question, what is something that is working for you right now? Or if you’d like to go pre COVID, what was working for you before our industry went on? Pause.

[00:25:15]Katie Murphy: [00:25:15] Yeah. Um, for me, It sounds

[00:25:17] So cliche, but.

[00:25:18] I’m just going to say it self care. Um,

[00:25:21] You know,

[00:25:21] I always, I’m a very selfless person by nature and then being an agent on top of that, I never fully think of myself. So. So. I always, when I’m most successful, I’ve had a workout in the morning, you know, I have a great breakfast and then I can bet like, gives me the energy and the recharge to. Really put all of my full focus. And if I don’t at least give myself like an hour, an hour and a half. I’m like. At 50%. Of  the best version of Katie. So. For sure. Self care.

[00:25:56] Dane Reis: [00:25:56] Yeah, I love that. And you know, I’m glad you brought that up as well, because I feel like only within the last couple of years, has it become a mainstream thing? That kind of went going hand in hand with mental health and anxiety and stress and things like this that it’s finally becoming. A mainstream topic that we can actually talk about and not have to hide from everything and keep bottling things up because it’s such an important part of. I mean, just being a generally healthy person, but so much in our careers, in a career that is so high and low all the time that we really have to find ways to ground ourselves.

[00:26:33]Katie Murphy: [00:26:33] Yeah, for

[00:26:33] sure. And whether that be, you know, Getting your

[00:26:36] nails done.

[00:26:36] or putting a face mask on or meditating, you know, working out I’ve done it all. And it’s one of the most important things, you know, to really recharge and let yourself have a moment.

[00:26:49] Dane Reis: [00:26:49] Yeah, absolutely. And the fourth question, what is your best resource? Whether that is a book, a movie, a YouTube video up podcast, maybe a piece of technology that you found is helping your career right now. 

[00:27:04]Katie Murphy: [00:27:04] Yeah. I think deadline is a great tool for people to

[00:27:07]you know,

[00:27:07]keep up with.

[00:27:08] and look at, um, to see what’s been canceled and what’s reshooting and who’s casting what it’s.

[00:27:14] Great.

[00:27:14] for TV and film. Um, video wise, you know, any of the HBO, Netflix, Hulu, those are great. Just so actors can see, you know, what. TV shows. That they’ve missed. Cause now we have all of this time. So you can catch up on anything. Um, And to see, okay, like, could I fit into this world? I like to not say type. I like to say world, because each show has  a general world and then you can play many different characters in that world. 

[00:27:43] Right. So. It’s really good, like to watch succession, which was gonna start shooting and then COVID hit or four lights, you know, which is now starting to cast their second season. So it’s like, like,

[00:27:56] okay. 

[00:27:57] I can see myself in that world. I think it’s very educational. 

[00:28:01] You don’t have to watch the whole series. You know, I’m not saying that, but at least one or two episodes to give you an idea. Two. 

[00:28:08]You

[00:28:08] know, I

[00:28:09]feel like when people go in for casting directors and they don’t know the show, it’s just not a very informed audition. So that will also help. I think Disney plus is great just because Hamilton’s on. Hamilton’s on there, you know, Newsies is on there and I, it 

[00:28:26] just

[00:28:27] reignited

[00:28:28] me.

[00:28:28]like to see kind of live theater again and hear an audience. 

[00:28:32] I do have to say once that downbeat hit, I totally started crying. I was like, Oh yeah, I miss live theater. 

[00:28:41]Um, 

[00:28:41] but those are really great 

[00:28:42] tools, you know, obviously. 

[00:28:43]I’m not a huge reader, like long books, but, um, which is awful. I know, but I’m a visual learner. But if you 

[00:28:51]know, you really love to read, start reading some plays and getting maybe some new monologues under your belt or. You know, trying to see what scenes would work. For you? Um, I

[00:29:01] think that’s all 

[00:29:02] really helpful. 

[00:29:04]Dane Reis: [00:29:04] Yeah, that’s all wonderful advice and you’re so right. There’s so much to be learned from the TV shows. 

[00:29:09] That you know, we mostly watch for entertainment, but using them in as. 

[00:29:13]Case studies to figure out where you belong in this industry. 

[00:29:16] Katie Murphy: [00:29:16] Yeah. Yeah. I honestly, I mean, I, obviously I watch all of these types of shows, but I then have to watch like the garbage reality TV. You know, Bravo real Housewives world to turn off my brain. Because I started to find out that once I was watching the shows, I was like, Oh, I wonder what this character arc is going to be. And I wonder if like maybe a few of my clients could be involved in that character arc. And I was like, okay, wait. It’s like 1130 at night. I’ve got to shut this brain off. Um, so. 

[00:29:45] Dane Reis: [00:29:45] Love it. Well, the fifth question. 

[00:29:47] If you had to start your career from scratch, but you still had all the knowledge and experience you’ve collected from your career in this industry. 

[00:29:56] What would you do or not do, would you do anything differently or would you keep it the same? 

[00:30:02]Katie Murphy: [00:30:02] I would keep it exactly the same because I’m a firm believer that everything happens for a reason. And. 

[00:30:08]You know, if you switch one thing, everything else could possibly get switched. And I’m pretty 

[00:30:14] lucky 

[00:30:14] and pretty fortunate. So no with all the struggles that I’ve had in my life, I would keep everything the same.

[00:30:21] Dane Reis: [00:30:21] Love it. And the last question, what is the golden nugget knowledge drop you’ve learned from your successful career in this industry? You’d like to leave with our listeners.

[00:30:32]Katie Murphy: [00:30:32] My golden nugget is I have a few of them. Um, But. I want actors to realize that the people behind the table want to see you for exactly who you are. when you go into a meeting or an audition and you’re more focused on what’s happening behind the table and you’re not living in your truth. I think that’s when you’ll miss the job. You know, we want to see what you could bring to a character and we want to see the honest and truth behind it. And especially like, if this happens more times with like young actors, like right out of college, We 

[00:31:07] can tell that their  trying to be something that they think that we want them to be. And it’s. Such an uncomfortable meeting when that happens. Because, , we can’t connect to that. I want to be able to connect, you know, to who you are, because that’s how I’m going to be able to tell if we can have, you know, a working relationship. Because I have to be able to market you. And I also, you know, want to be able to just like, have a conversation with you of like, Hey, how are you at your family? You know, something . Um, So that’s my first little nugget and then my second nugget. Is, and this is just like a general one. Like always be nice to every single person. Always. Thank your pianist. Always think, you know, your hair and makeup team. Always be, you know, well behaved and just 

[00:31:51] really 

[00:31:51] decent because you have no idea where they’re going to end up in the industry and. You know, besides talent, like people hire people because they like working with them. 

[00:32:01]Truly like. And that seems so simple. And you 

[00:32:04] know, sometimes you can forget to do it, but I’ll always notice either, like, if we’re at like an equity, like required showcase, and if they’re not thinking the pianist.  to 

[00:32:13] me, I’m like,

[00:32:13] come on, they just played for you and they sight read and you know, 

[00:32:17] your music could have fallen off and whatever, and you didn’t thank them. Like, no, come on. But. Really truly like be nice to everybody. 

[00:32:24]Dane Reis: [00:32:24] Yeah, I think that is such sound advice. Love that. And to wrap up this interview, Katie, it is time to give yourself a plug. Where can we find you? How do our listeners connect with you? Is there anything you want to promote?

[00:32:40]Katie Murphy: [00:32:40] Yeah, so you can check out my Instagram, which is kg Murphy for, um, and you can see. 

[00:32:47]My

[00:32:48] Lovely.

[00:32:49] for babies that are staying   at my parents’ house. There’s lots of photos of them. Um, you can also connect with our office Instagram, which is P M the agency. You can check out our website. Which is Penn Tara Murphy, the agency.com and yeah.

[00:33:09]That’s pretty much it. 

[00:33:10]Dane Reis: [00:33:10] Great. And for everyone listening out there, I have put the links to everything. Katie just mentioned into the description of this episode. So you can easily connect with her. Katie. Thank you so much for being here and sharing your side of the industry. It’s been an absolute pleasure having you.

[00:33:25]Katie Murphy: [00:33:25] Thanks for having me. This was lovely. I loved it. 

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